Cool Vids and photos of MLB and soccer players dunking and playing basketball.

[midnightpulp]

As an olive branch extension to the soccer crew, instead of getting in a pissing contest over which sport has the better athletes, let's appreciate some impressive basketball feats by baseball and soccer players. :toast

Mariners pitcher Taijuan Walker:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWDGk6l1lMs

3rd Basemen Brett Lawrie throwing it down:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/6-QoLM.gif

Mike Trout goofing around in street clothes.

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Trout beating Raymond in P-I-G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-B9pcCotr0

Former Dodger and Robz4000 's boy Matt Kemp:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkvrgmh68M

Matt Kemp showing off some range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzY7Fgz5DX0

Soccer players

Ronaldo dunking a soccer ball on what looks like an 8 foot high goal:

http://www.ronaldocr7.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/feauterd-image-04022016-Can-Real-Madrid-hotshot-Cristiano-Ronaldo-dunk.jpg

Raheem Sterling showing the sick pump fake and crossover to Wayne Rooney:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/rtRyxQ.gif

FC Bayern showing us how it's done with some great team play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw7zwMqsCbk

Neymar SKYING in for the layup:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/hLq-Jl.gif

Messi with the VINCE CAHHTER:

http://offcourtissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/messi_dunk.png

:toast to these amazing athletes.

[Robz4000]

As an olive branch extension to the soccer crew, instead of getting in a pissing contest over which sport has the better athletes, let's appreciate some impressive basketball feats by baseball and soccer players. :toast

Mariners pitcher Taijuan Walker:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWDGk6l1lMs

3rd Basemen Brett Lawrie throwing it down:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/6-QoLM.gif

Mike Trout goofing around in street clothes.

719965090099761152

Trout beating Raymond in P-I-G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-B9pcCotr0

Former Dodger and Robz4000 's boy Matt Kemp:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkvrgmh68M

Matt Kemp showing off some range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzY7Fgz5DX0

Soccer players

Ronaldo dunking a soccer ball on what looks like an 8 foot high goal:

http://www.ronaldocr7.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/feauterd-image-04022016-Can-Real-Madrid-hotshot-Cristiano-Ronaldo-dunk.jpg

Raheem Sterling showing the sick pump fake and crossover to Wayne Rooney:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/rtRyxQ.gif

FC Bayern showing us how it's done with some great team play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw7zwMqsCbk

Neymar SKYING in for the layup:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/hLq-Jl.gif

Messi with the VINCE CAHHTER:

http://offcourtissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/messi_dunk.png

:toast to these amazing athletes.

Obviously there's some fatasses in the sport (albeit athletic fatasses) but overall the most athletic people I've ever seen and played against were baseball players. The amount of hate on this board for baseball is pretty funny though.

[midnightpulp]

Obviously there's some fatasses in the sport (albeit athletic fatasses) but overall the most athletic people I've ever seen and played against were baseball players. The amount of hate on this board for baseball is pretty funny though.

Indeed. The soccer crew doesn't understand that baseball players, on average, will have the greatest core (upper-to-mid torso to hips) power relative to size out of all athletes in the major team sports, and athleticism in general starts from core strength.

[apalisoc_9]

Baseball players playing ohter sports because they're so bored with their own :lol

[midnightpulp]

Baseball players playing ohter sports because they're so bored with their own :lol

Ronaldo and dunking on an 8 foot rim :lmao

[benefactor]

I hope poorball vs stickball never dies tbh:lol

[Thebesteva]

OP shits on how boring soccer is but loves baseball...LMAO ffs :lmao

[RD2191]

Neither baseball or soccer are fucking sports.

[midnightpulp]

I hope poorball vs stickball never dies tbh:lol

I killed it. Greatest athlete in the world was a baseball player who uses baseball training techniques. Baseball players can run faster and jump higher than soccer players on average as proven. We got vids of baseball players pulling off some impressive dunks.

And the soccer crew has?

Ronaldo dunking on an 8 foot rim :lmao

[midnightpulp]

OP shits on how boring soccer is but loves baseball...LMAO ffs :lmao

I won't try to sell baseball to the uninitiated, but soccer is the most boring major sport on planet Earth, which is easily quantified by the fact that half the games end without one team scoring at all. I need more than just "stuff moving around" to be engaged. "Oooh. You watch it to appreciate their skills and tactics!" Been there, done that. I can only take so many 0-0 games and Mario Party.

I will say NFL football is approaching the level of soccer boredom since games today are filled with more flags and commercials than actual football. ClipperNation knows what's up here.

[apalisoc_9]

On another note...baseball is probably yhe only sport i can think pff that's almost completely void pf strategy and tactic. Shit is hilarious.

Be fat and strong sport. :lol.

[midnightpulp]

On another note...baseball is probably yhe only sport i can think pff that's almost completely void pf strategy and tactic. Shit is hilarious.

Be fat and strong sport. :lol.

Disproven by the fact baseball players are faster and can jump higher than floptrot players. Ronaldo and his 8 foot dunks and 4.8 40 :lmao

Baseball is insanely deep, and on the roster building side of things (strategy) it makes basketball roster building look like a complete joke.

I can elaborate, but you're too biased to learn. So keep on keeping on enjoying Mario Party :lol

[Clipper Nation]

On another note...baseball is probably yhe only sport i can think pff that's almost completely void pf strategy and tactic. Shit is hilarious.

Be fat and strong sport. :lol.
Spoken like someone who's never watched baseball. There's strategy involved in defensive positioning, pitch selection, pitching changes, and baserunning. Because the NL doesn't have the designated hitter, managers in that league also have to strategize around the pitcher in the lineup (for instance, the double switch).

[Spur-Addict]

Neither baseball or soccer are fucking sports.

Yeah I have agree with this. Both "sports" are so boring, and without any strategic intrigue whatsoever. Although soccer/futbol goals are slightly more entertaining than home runs, or "batted in" runs.

[Canyonero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxPzBaL3zU

British baseball smh

[140]

I won't try to sell baseball to the uninitiated, but soccer is the most boring major sport on planet Earth, which is easily quantified by the fact that half the games end without one team scoring at all. I need more than just "stuff moving around" to be engaged. "Oooh. You watch it to appreciate their skills and tactics!" Been there, done that. I can only take so many 0-0 games and Mario Party.

I will say NFL football is approaching the level of soccer boredom since games today are filled with more flags and commercials than actual football. ClipperNation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=50270) knows what's up here.

:madrun no scoring!!! :madrun
:madruni need instant gratification!!!:madrun

[midnightpulp]

:madrun no scoring!!! :madrun
:madruni need instant gratification!!!:madrun

Sounds like the soccer crew needs the instant gratification.

:madrun Players need to move around all the time for me to be entertained :madrun

[Kawhitstorm]

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-my-background-playing-soccer-gave-me-a-natural-advantage-over-many-of-the-american-born-hakeem-olajuwon-68-9-0999.jpg

[apalisoc_9]

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-my-background-playing-soccer-gave-me-a-natural-advantage-over-many-of-the-american-born-hakeem-olajuwon-68-9-0999.jpg

Boom.

It's amazing how players with soccer background..how much more creative they are on basketball. Its trully the sport with the perfect blend of skill, thinking and athletic ability.

[Silver&Black]

Boom.

It's amazing how players with soccer background..how much more creative they are on basketball. Its trully the sport with the perfect blend of skill, thinking and athletic ability.

Michael Jordan (The GOAT) played baseball as a kid.

Boom.

[midnightpulp]

Michael Jordan (The GOAT) played baseball as a kid.

Boom.

Baseball wins again :lmao

Love ya, bro.

(It was first sport, as well)

[Silver&Black]

Baseball wins again :lmao

Love ya, bro.

(It was first sport, as well)

I don't even like baseball, tbh. But, if you're going to have a legit argument with grown-ups...you better come with something a lot better than a pic of Hakeem saying soccer helped him as a kid. Because it's so easy for someone to one-up that.

Every NBA fan knows that greatest of all time played Baseball as a kid. It was his first sports love. Well....I guess two people didn't know.

[apalisoc_9]

And what part of baseball trabslated to Basketball, dumbass

[midnightpulp]

And what part of baseball trabslated to Basketball, dumbass

Another foreigner talking out his ass.

Story. I was a devoted baseball player. All I played from 5 til about 13. And there is no better sport that trains hand-eye coordination better than baseball. I was also a 3rd baseball and worked on my lateral quickness to better field balls hit to either side of me (see how an infielder spots up. Not unlike a basketball player in a defensive stance). My eye-sight started going to shit around this time and there goes me playing baseball at a high level (fun fact: 20/20 vision is average eye-sight in the MLB and they often have surgery to "correct" it to 20/10).

Got into basketball at his age without really ever playing it. Dribbling was piss easy (thank you baseball for det hand-eye coordination), and I was able to execute any dribble you want: crossover, behind the back, through the legs, etc. Made the Junior High team first try out and was going head-to-head in one-on-one games with the best player in school, who had been playing basketball since birth, beating him on occasion (and he was a good player. Played AAU Slam 'n Jam here in SoCal). I was a pitcher, so the throwing mechanics there made the transition to developing good jumpshot mechanics pretty easy.

Core strength? As I said, one of the most important athletic traits you can have, and nothing trains that better than baseball. Core strength contributes to leaping ability, and I could grab rim as a 5'8" 8th grader.

Friend of mine was also a converted baseball player and was even better. He actually played Slam and Jam.

Never went real far in any sport. I'm a good overall athlete, but not elite, which you obviously need to be to play any sport beyond high school at a good college.

Just because there's not a lot of running around in baseball doesn't mean the skills aren't transferable. They totally are. And it's why a lot of good NBA players were also baseball players. Jordan, Reggie Miller's first sport, Klay Thompson, T-Mac, Danny Ainge, etc.

[spurraider21]

Neither baseball or soccer are fucking sports.
:worthy:

[spurraider21]

Boom.

It's amazing how players with soccer background..how much more creative they are on basketball. Its trully the sport with the perfect blend of skill, thinking and athletic ability.
yeah its amazing how a sport where you can't use your hands at all and only use your feet helps you in a sport where you can't use your feet at all and only use your hands

[apalisoc_9]

yeah its amazing how a sport where you can't use your hands at all and only use your feet helps you in a sport where you can't use your feet at all and only use your hands

Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.

Yeah, NBA players weren't elite passers before floptrot players showed them how it's done :lmao

Magic, Bird, Walton, Stockton, and modern players like Rondo, Chris Paul, Lebron were all soccer players :lol

Nash is also the most overrated player aside from Kirby since '98.

and they both played soccer growing up :lmao

[DAF86]

I killed it. Greatest athlete in the world was a baseball player who uses baseball training techniques. Baseball players can run faster and jump higher than soccer players on average as proven. We got vids of baseball players pulling off some impressive dunks.

And the soccer crew has?

Ronaldo dunking on an 8 foot rim :lmao

Proven by whom? :lol

All you got is some meassurements from Trout and some other athletic baseball players that you compared it to the top speeds of soccer players REACHED DURING GAMES, not on athletic trails like the ones you got from Trout or the other baseball players, where you only have to worry about running ss fast as you can or jumping as high as you can. The only close thing you got of that from a soccer player is that shit Ronaldo did for a TV programme, a guy that probably isn't the fastest, the strongest, nor the one that jumps the highest of all football players.

But aside from all that, we have discussed this shit before. Let's say Trout is more athletic than the most athletic soccer player. That still doesn't mean that baseball players are more athletic than soccer players on average.

I would love to see David Ortiz, Pablo "Kung fu Panda" Sandoval and the Boston Red Sox take on Real Madrid on a decathlon. Shit would be funny as fuck, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.

Don't forget Manu, the greatest passing SG ever, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

:lmao Using Hakeem playing soccer as a kid in the stickball vs. povertyball fued

I guess the reason why Hakeem was so good (I'll mainly focus on his legendary footwork) was because he kicked a ball around as a kid. I'll also guess that his footwork/post-up skills can all be traced back to this single event as a kid. You've got to be kidding me. Did it help any? Yes....I'm sure it translated a little bit to his success in the NBA game. The same with Jordan and baseball. I'm sure the hand-eye coordination required in baseball would help out in any sport. But, is it the main reason why they were successful? Hell no. Is it even one of the top 10 reasons why they were successful? Again, Hell no. It's weak to even mention the other sports played as a kid in this conversation.

Also, you're not being fair if you leave out the probably tens of thousands of hours Hakeem practiced that legendary footwork/post-up skills ON A FUCKING BASKETBALL COURT.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nash is also the most overrated player aside from Kirby since '98.

As much as I can't stand either one Kirby/Porker had the best footwork at their respective positions & they both grew-up playing futbol.

DoEHWHXIPDI

rDcHUyYhRHM

[Kawhitstorm]

Don't forget Manu, the greatest passing SG ever, tbh.

..& Pau/Boris/Sabonis/Vlade the best passing PF/Cs of their generations despite Euros being 5% of the NBA roster.

Fournier/Batum are also great passers for their positions.

[midnightpulp]

..& Pau/Sabonis/Vlade the best passing PF/Cs of their generations.

Sabonis and Vlade are from basketball obsessed Slavic countries.

Magic has by far the best vision ever. Where are all his soccer trophies?

[BD24]

These poverty ball fans are fucking delusional. No surprise the forums autistic poster is on that side of the argument.

Just shit argument after shit argument.

[Kawhitstorm]

Sabonis and Vlade are from basketball obsessed Slavic countries.

The Soviet Union won the gold medal for Futbol at 88 Olympics.:lol

[midnightpulp]

The Soviet Union won the gold medal for Futbol at 88 Olympics.:lol

Got quotes of Sabonis saying he played soccer?

"Well, no, but he's a Euro and they all love soccer, so he must've played it." (despite the fact Saba grew up in a country where basketball has been described as a "Religion.")

That's why I thought.

"Must've."

[Kawhitstorm]

:lmao Using Hakeem playing soccer as a kid in the stickball vs. povertyball fued

I guess the reason why Hakeem was so good (I'll mainly focus on his legendary footwork) was because he kicked a ball around as a kid. I'll also guess that his footwork/post-up skills can all be traced back to this single event as a kid. You've got to be kidding me. Did it help any? Yes....I'm sure it translated a little bit to his success in the NBA game. The same with Jordan and baseball. I'm sure the hand-eye coordination required in baseball would help out in any sport. But, is it the main reason why they were successful? Hell no. Is it even one of the top 10 reasons why they were successful? Again, Hell no. It's weak to even mention the other sports played as a kid in this conversation.

Also, you're not being fair if you leave out the probably tens of thousands of hours Hakeem practiced that legendary footwork/post-up skills ON A FUCKING BASKETBALL COURT.

Dirk's has a mediocre footwork & court-vision b/c he was one of those Euros that didn't grow up playing Futbol (same w/ Porzingis & the new generation of Eastern Euros who are now just jumping straight to Bball from Day 1 like Americans).

[Kawhitstorm]

Got quotes of Sabonis saying he played soccer?

"Sabonis began playing basketball at age 13"

[midnightpulp]

"Sabonis began playing basketball at age 13"

Don't see any conclusive evidence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sabonis+soccer&oq=sabonis+soccer+&aqs=chrome..69i57.4159j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Ah, another great player who grew up playing baseball:


He was a top-of-the-order hitter. Effective with two strikes. No power. Mostly a middle infielder and center fielder. Never a pitcher like his dad.

Back in the day, Stephen Curry played baseball.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/shea/article/What-if-Stephen-Curry-had-been-a-baseball-player-7785827.php

It makes sense now why Steph has such great handles. When I moved from baseball to basketball, dribbling was by far the easiest skill to learn right off. :toast

[Kawhitstorm]

Nadal/Federer/Djokovic aka top 3 best tennis players in HISTORY played futbol growing up & Nadal/Djokovic actually had professional footballers in their family.:toast

[Kawhitstorm]

It makes sense now why Steph has such great handles. When I moved from baseball to basketball, dribbling was by far the easiest skill to learn right off. :toast

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[midnightpulp]

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Nice.

How about Manu's "court vision" he learned from soccer?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306180MIA.html

Manu seemed to forget that turnovers are punishing in basketball unlike in soccer :lol

[Silver&Black]

Dirk's has a mediocre footwork & court-vision b/c he was one of those Euros that didn't grow up playing Futbol (same w/ Porzingis & the new generation of Eastern Euros who are now just jumping straight to Bball from Day 1 like Americans).

And like I said earlier...the greatest player to ever pick up a basketball spent his youth playing baseball.

It doesn't mean a gotdamn thing.

This entire "Well this sports superstar played this sport growing up" is the dumbest shit I've ever read in the stickball v povertyball feud. You know what Nash, Kobe, Hakeem, Djokovich, Federer, Nadal etc. all have in common? One day they decided soccer was boring as fuck and decided to go another direction.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nice.

How about Manu's "court vision" he learned from soccer?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306180MIA.html

Manu seemed to forget that turnovers are punishing in basketball unlike in soccer :lol

Turnobili was waaaaaaaaaaaaay past him prime, Wardell is at the PEAK of his prime & got served by Delly/Love in back-to-back Finals.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

You know what Nash, Kobe, Hakeem, Djokovich, Federer, Nadal etc. all have in common? One day they decided soccer was boring as fuck and decided to go another direction.

Hakeem was a goal keeper which means the footwork he used to destroy NBA bigs wasn't good enough to be a positional player in futbol.:toast

[midnightpulp]

Turnobili was waaaaaaaaaaaaay past him prime, Wardell is at the PEAK of his prime & got served by Delly/Love in back-to-back Finals.:lol

:lol Sure.

Way past his prime to the point where he came back the next season and kicked the shit out of the same team in the Finals.

He made shitty TOs in his prime, too. Quit :downspin:

[Kawhitstorm]

Way past his prime to the point where he came back the next season and kicked the shit out of the same team in the Finals.

Yup he got his aging eyes fixed & stopped splitting FTs.:toast

[midnightpulp]

Yup he got his aging eyes fixed & stopped splitting FTs.:toast


:toast

You're alright, and a fun "enemy" to debate with.

[FkLA]

Spoken like someone who's never watched baseball. There's strategy involved in defensive positioning, pitch selection, pitching changes, and baserunning. Because the NL doesn't have the designated hitter, managers in that league also have to strategize around the pitcher in the lineup (for instance, the double switch).

I used to watch a bunch of beisbol when I was younger. Was a Cubs fan, still am I guess although I don't really watch much until the playoffs and even then only catch the occasional game. Dusty Baker earned his paychecks for mostly chewing toothpicks. Being a beisbol manager is easy as shit. It's the slowest 'sport' and there's not a whole bunch of match-ups going on at any given time like in other sports.

Look at a spreadsheet that tells you the tendencies of opposing hitters in order to shift the defense. Shit there's plenty of time in between plays to not even have to memorize any of it. Know that a right handed batter struggles more with a left handed pitcher and vice versa. Learn what a double switch is (nothing complicated about it). Throw fake tantrums at umps to show displeasure at a call. Go give the pitcher a 'pep talk' when he's struggling. Give an extended 'pep talk' when a pitcher change is coming to give the incoming pitcher more time to warm-up. Those are basically the duties of a beisbol manager. Any average joe could perform them for a fraction of the price tbh.

[DAF86]

I used to watch a bunch of beisbol when I was younger. Was a Cubs fan, still am I guess although I don't really watch much until the playoffs and even then only catch the occasional game. Dusty Baker earned his paychecks for mostly chewing toothpicks. Being a beisbol manager is easy as shit. It's the slowest 'sport' and there's not a whole bunch of match-ups going on at any given time like in other sports.

Look at a spreadsheet that tells you the tendencies of opposing hitters in order to shift the defense. Shit there's plenty of time in between plays to not even have to memorize any of it. Know that a right handed batter struggles more with a left handed pitcher and vice versa. Learn what a double switch is (nothing complicated about it). Throw fake tantrums at umps to show displeasure at a call. Go give the pitcher a 'pep talk' when he's struggling. Give an extended 'pep talk' when a pitcher change is coming to give the incoming pitcher more time to warm-up. Those are basically the duties of a beisbol manager. Any average joe could perform them for a fraction of the price tbh.

Baseball fans think we are all ignorants to these facts and think we dislike baseball because we have never giving it a chance. When it's the complete opposite: the reason we give baseball so much shit is 'cause we tried to enjoy it, we have giving it more than one chance, we have watched it on TV, we have played it, we play the videogames, yet we can't warm up to the sport 'cause we find it too fucking boring. It's simple as that.

You guys like it? Cool, we are not here to argue likes and dislikes. But don't come here trying to sell us that baseball is a tactically diverse sport when everybody knows it is as simple and static as it comes.

[lefty]

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-my-background-playing-soccer-gave-me-a-natural-advantage-over-many-of-the-american-born-hakeem-olajuwon-68-9-0999.jpg

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[.G.]

Fuck it. Here's my "take" on this baseball v. football v. basketball v. soccer dick waving contest.

Purely financially-driven. Fuck entertainment value.

So long as a player doesn't retire early or commit league violations which result in suspensions, MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. Fuck endorsements. It took KG and Kobe 20 years to earn $320M. Its taken Lebron 13 years to earn ~$170M. It will take Marlins RF Giancarlo Stanton 13 years to earn $325M and he's getting every single fucking penny of it. In baseball you can play well into your late 30s/early 40s and still be relevant and the same could probably be said about soccer.

I'll delve into the safety argument a bit. Unlike the NFL, and yes water is fucking wet, soccer/baseball/basketball are far safer sports to play which means that by the time you retire you'll actually get to enjoy your money/lifestyle with very little rehab if any. There's a steep price to pay to be an NFL player and it usually means paying for it with severe brain/head trauma, CTE, high risk of suicide and all for a career which on average lasts no more than 4 years. Talk about pituitary retards. I don't think it's worth it, but hey, to each their own.

Now I don't know the stats for soccer players but I would say that the NFL is the true poverty ball, followed by the NBA. Notice how many players appearing in the 30 for 30 Broke were MLB/soccer players? What....schilling, homer bush and ummmm....yeah you get the point.

Again, my take is purely financially-driven because at the end of the day these niggaz don't play to entertain the masses, they play to make fucking money and lots of it.

[Caltex2]

/thread

I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport.

[Caltex2]

Fuck it. Here's my "take" on this baseball v. football v. basketball v. soccer dick waving contest.

Purely financially-driven. Fuck entertainment value.

So long as a player doesn't retire early or commit league violations which result in suspensions, MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. Fuck endorsements. It took KG and Kobe 20 years to earn $320M. Its taken Lebron 13 years to earn ~$170M. It will take Marlins RF Giancarlo Stanton 13 years to earn $325M and he's getting every single fucking penny of it. In baseball you can play well into your late 30s/early 40s and still be relevant and the same could probably be said about soccer.

I'll delve into the safety argument a bit. Unlike the NFL, and yes water is fucking wet, soccer/baseball/basketball are far safer sports to play which means that by the time you retire you'll actually get to enjoy your money/lifestyle with very little rehab if any. There's a steep price to pay to be an NFL player and it usually means paying for it with severe brain/head trauma, CTE, high risk of suicide and all for a career which on average lasts no more than 4 years. Talk about pituitary retards. I don't think it's worth it, but hey, to each their own.

Now I don't know the stats for soccer players but I would say that the NFL is the true poverty ball, followed by the NBA. Notice how many players appearing in the 30 for 30 Broke were MLB/soccer players? What....schilling, homer bush and ummmm....yeah you get the point.

Again, my take is purely financially-driven because at the end of the day these niggaz don't play to entertain the masses, they play to make fucking money and lots of it.

No, NFL and NBA players mostly grew up with poor socioeconomic backgrounds and had pretty much zero concept of money.

[Silver&Black]

I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport.

Cal

[midnightpulp]

Baseball fans think we are all ignorants to these facts and think we dislike baseball because we have never giving it a chance. When it's the complete opposite: the reason we give baseball so much shit is 'cause we tried to enjoy it, we have giving it more than one chance, we have watched it on TV, we have played it, we play the videogames, yet we can't warm up to the sport 'cause we find it too fucking boring. It's simple as that.

You guys like it? Cool, we are not here to argue likes and dislikes. But don't come here trying to sell us that baseball is a tactically diverse sport when everybody knows it is as simple and static as it comes.

You are. None of the soccer crew has even a rudimentary understanding of baseball strategy and tactics.

"Players in motion" doesn't automatically equal "tactically" diverse.

Spurs won 4 titles with a "static" and "simplistic" offensive scheme that had players spread out on the perimeter as Duncan was fed in the post. He would either 1). Score from the post if he had a matchup advantage or 2). Find shooters and slashers if the double team came.

Their defensive scheme was rather simple as well. Don't crash the offensive boards so you don't get beat by a fast break. Funnel penetrators into Duncan/Robinson/Rasho/Etc. Stay home on 3 point shooters while Duncan anchors the paint to force teams into inefficient mid-range 2s.

My mind is literally blown.

And how about the modern super deep basketball tactic of abusing pick-and-rolls to create cross matches! The correct basketball tactic to use is piss easy to see just by watching the game.

The correct (highest probability of success) baseball tactic to use if you're a pitcher or hitter is not obvious until do you a shitload of research. This is why you won't be able to tell me what is the best way to pitch to Mike Trout and how to best build a lineup around just by watching him play over a few games.

On the other hand, I can watch Steph Curry play and know instantly the best tactic to use is to put him in constant pick-and-rolls. I can watch a great low post player and know instantly what scheme to build around him.

Pop: "I don't watch film. They know what we're going to do. We know we're they're going to do. I'm more concerned with doing what we do perfectly."

i.e. basketball is about execution, not trying to "out-think" the other guy. This is also why advanced metrics show that coaching has little influence on NBA teams.

Pitcher vs. Batter? Totally trying to out-think the other guy.

[whitemamba]

Most kids in america play all sports growing up , as for the rest of the world its basically one sport. Usually soccer, so is it a surprise that American athletes can perform better in over all sports , no.

[midnightpulp]

Most kids in america play all sports growing up , as for the rest of the world its basically one sport. Usually soccer, so is it a surprise that American athletes can perform better in over all sports , no.

And that's why they're pretty terrible all around athletes overall usually :lol

It's also why I'm against specialization, which is a current trend now even in American sports, forcing kids to "choose" a single sport by age 10-12.

[lefty]

I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport.
That's why he ultimately picked basketball

It's more exciting and it's a sport

[Silver&Black]

That's why he ultimately picked basketball

It's more exciting and it's a sport

What's Hakeem's excuse? Did he not realize one day that kickball just wasn't for him?

[lefty]

What's Hakeem's excuse? Did he not realize one day that kickball just wasn't for him?

Well back in the days soccer wasn't as popular in the US as it is today
Since he was studying in the US he picked basketball because beisbol is not a sport

[Silver&Black]

Well back in the days soccer wasn't as popular in the US as it is today
Since he was studying in the US he picked basketball because beisbol is not a sport

Wait. Soccer is popular in the US today?

[Kawhitstorm]

I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport.

You missed the part where Jordan was a mediocre basketball player when he was playing besibol which was causing his muscle to atrophy (that's the reason PEDs are popular among Fatballers). This even happened in his PRIME after he lost his motor skills dabbling w/ besibol:

qYDBO3G_gBE

[midnightpulp]

[QUOTE=lefty;8687242]Well back in the days soccer wasn't as popular in the US as it is today
Since he was studying in the US he picked basketball because beisbol is not a sport/QUOTE]

:lol Sure

This is an athlete, left.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FNl7QdnJlf8/hqdefault.jpg

This is not:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-2280311-17A3A0D6000005DC-444_634x534.jpg

And you know Rock is drilling any floptrot player in a race. :lol

[whitemamba]

And that's why they're pretty terrible all around athletes overall usually :lol

It's also why I'm against specialization, which is a current trend now even in American sports, forcing kids to "choose" a single sport by age 10-12.

Doesn't really sound like a bad idea, investing your time that you have into one thing and getting really good at it rather than be mediocre at a bunch of other things sounds better to me.

[midnightpulp]

You missed the part where Jordan was a mediocre basketball player when he was playing besibol which was causing his muscle to atrophy (that's the reason PEDs are popular among Fatballers). This even happened in his PRIME after he lost his motor skills dabbling w/ besibol:

qYDBO3G_gBE

You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player :lol (he was young then, so he still had remnants of that shitty soccer athleticism and frame).

[140]

It's widely known that Jordan only played beisbol instead of bball as a kid because he was forced by his dad. Being the sociopath he is MJ could never let go of that grudge and it ended up being the main reason he killed him, tbh...I guess he felt a little guilty then and decided to give it another try but quickly got bored with it again and went back to the NBA.

[Silver&Black]

You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player :lol (he was young then, so he still had remnants of that shitty soccer athleticism and frame).

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

It's widely known that Jordan only played beisbol instead of bball as a kid because he was forced by his dad. Being the sociopath he is MJ could never let go of that grudge and it ended up being the main reason he killed him, tbh...I guess he felt a little guilty then and decided to give it another try but quickly got bored with it again and went back to the NBA.

Good choice by his dad, since baseball gave him the foundation skills to become the best player in history.

Meanwhile soccer has Steve Nash, Kirby, and a Child Molester :lmao

[Silver&Black]

It's widely known that Jordan only played beisbol instead of bball as a kid because he was forced by his dad. Being the sociopath he is MJ could never let go of that grudge and it ended up being the main reason he killed him, tbh...I guess he felt a little guilty then and decided to give it another try but quickly got bored with it again and went back to the NBA.

You're missing the point, 140. Who gives a fuck what sport Hakeem or Jordan played growing up. It contributed less than 0.1% in their success as NBA pros.

:lol The fact that one side even brings it up shows me they're fucking reaching bad

[140]

Good choice by his dad, since baseball gave him the foundation skills to become the best player in history.

Meanwhile soccer has Steve Nash, Kirby, and a Child Molester :lmao


You're missing the point, 140. Who gives a fuck what sport Hakeem or Jordan played growing up. It contributed less than 0.1% in their success as NBA pros.

:lol The fact that one side even brings it up shows me they're fucking reaching bad

Pick a lane, fatsos :lol

[apalisoc_9]

When exactly dod jordan say Baseball helped his basketball game?

[Silver&Black]

:lol Thinking I'm a fatball fan

It's only slightly less boring than kickball, tbh.

Both "sports" blow. There is a reason why both rank below fucking ice hockey in America.

[Kawhitstorm]

You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player :lol (he was young then, so he still had remnants of that shitty soccer athleticism and frame).

You mean BEFORE his body had fully developed? Even Tim got sonned by Ostertag when he was a rookie.:lol




Tim Duncan 14 points/6 of 10 FG/8 rebs/3 assists/2 blocks

Greg Ostertag 21 points/7 of 12 FG/10 rebs/0 assists/5 blocks


Tim fouled out of the game getting his sixth foul at 2:52 of the fourth quarter.



"Jermaine (O'Neal) destroyed me. He was with Portland, was real young ... and Tag threw my stuff into the first couple of rows a few times."

[Kawhitstorm]

Good choice by his dad, since baseball gave him the foundation skills to become the best player in history.

Which explains why his only playoff series loss w/ prime Pippen came when he lost his athletic ability due to beisbol.:toast

[midnightpulp]

Which explains why his only playoff series loss w/ prime Pippen came when he lost his athletic ability due to beisbol.:toast

His stats were far better than Pippen's in that series, though :lmao

Prime Scottie shot .400 against Orland0o. Jordan average 31.5 on .477 :hat

[midnightpulp]

You mean BEFORE his body had fully developed? Even Tim got sonned by Ostertag when he was a rookie.:lol

Indeed. Tim was a swimmer and they have soccer style physiques :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

His stats were far better than Pippen's in that series, though :lmao

Prime Scottie shot .400 against Orland0o. Jordan average 31.5 on .477 :hat

Scottie was spent carrying the team which eventually broke his back while Jordan was playing fatball.

[Kawhitstorm]

Indeed. Tim was a swimmer and they have soccer style physiques :lmao

They didn't grow up on a farm digging ditches unlike red necks like Ostertag.:lol

[lefty]

Wait. Soccer is popular in the US today?
Reread

[Silver&Black]

Reread

I know what you said, lefty. You said it's more popular today than it was back in the day. That's technically not wrong, I guess. However; What you should have said is that "soccer isn't as irrelevant as it once was when Hakeem was a kid."

You should never use that word (popular) when talking about Americans and Soccer.

I draw the line at the NHL. Hockey is a game where millions and millions of kids growing up can't play because their city just doesn't have the weather to support it. If your sport can't beat the NHL's ratings in America...........that sport isn't "popular".

[midnightpulp]

:lol Thinking I'm a fatball fan

It's only slightly less boring than kickball, tbh.

Both "sports" blow. There is a reason why both rank below fucking ice hockey in America.

Mlb is by far the 2nd most popular league in the USA.

[Silver&Black]

Mlb is by far the 2nd most popular league in the USA.

Sorry. My bad. I was wrong for saying that the MLB is below hockey...it isn't.

MLB pulls higher ratings than the NBA though?

[midnightpulp]

Sorry. My bad. I was wrong for saying that the MLB is below hockey...it isn't.

MLB pulls higher ratings than the NBA though?

On average it does, especially locally.

[pgardn]

I like em all.

Soccer: players are in fantastic shape. The fact that they are Pretty much done by early 30s shows how incredibly taxing the sport is on the legs. The coordination of spacing and timing makes it an incredible team sport like basketball in many ways. And there is room to show off individual skills. Because it's mostly continuous play, the participants are often forced to make adjustments on their own. I love most of the announcers in this sport because they will tell you if it's shit. And they stfu and let the play speak for itself. They don't over use superlatives like the big 3 in the US. The cruelest of all sports as performance often does not match score.

Football: especially college... The best But I can see why foreigners hate it. Actual time playing the game is incredibly tiny.

Baseball: incredible hand eye coordination required. Hitting a baseball is extraordinarly difficult. But because the specialization in positions is even greater in this sport than football, you can be a fat pig and do fine in at least 3 positions. And there is a whole lot of scheming by managers and pitchers. Definitely have to grow up with it. Way slow, worse than football.

Basketball. IMO, the best athletes. And a great mixture of all of the above. Suggestion: If fouled on a shot attempt, 1 shot to make 2 or 3. And one, give the one automatically, no FT required. Solves the foul line boredom.

[FkLA]

:lol Sure

This is an athlete, left.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FNl7QdnJlf8/hqdefault.jpg

This is not:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-2280311-17A3A0D6000005DC-444_634x534.jpg

And you know Rock is drilling any floptrot player in a race. :lol


During a recent steal against the Braves, Gordon took a lead of 11.2 feet and hit a top speed of 21.1 mph on the way to second base. That's fast, but it's not Hamilton fast.

Hamilton stole a base against the Cubs this season and hit 21.2 mph, which explains how he was able to get away with a huge lead of 11.9 feet.

Trout's no slouch, of course. The reigning American League MVP had the shortest lead -- 10.5 feet -- in the clip of a steal against Oakland, and he still managed to get to a top speed of 20.8 mph.


Gareth Bale has been caught speeding in Madrid by Spanish TV channel La Sexta. Despite insisting he's had no pre-season and being worried about his fitness, Bale was clocked sprinting at 40kmph in last Sunday's draw with Villarreal - almost 25 mph just 2 mph behind Usain Bolt at world record speed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=picHIDnFzEc

[Caltex2]

That's why he ultimately picked basketball

It's more exciting and it's a sport

That's great, but my quote, "I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport," had everything to do with someone basically saying there's no better point in the thread than when Olajuwon said playing soccer is what helped him become the star he did. If it did for Olajuwon, it certainly did for Jordan.

If being a goalie and having to react in an instant to a shot going one way or another helped Olajuwon become the official all-time blocked shots leader then having to react (hand-eye coordination) in an instant to a pitch and having the agility+timing down to steal bases also helpd Jordan in basketball.

[Caltex2]

You missed the part where Jordan was a mediocre basketball player when he was playing besibol which was causing his muscle to atrophy (that's the reason PEDs are popular among Fatballers). This even happened in his PRIME after he lost his motor skills dabbling w/ besibol:

qYDBO3G_gBE

See above. You missed the point, which was that Olajuwon's quote didn't end the thread.

[Caltex2]

You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player :lol (he was young then, so he still had remnants of that shitty soccer athleticism and frame).

Wait, Olajuwon didn't choke, his team and especially his coach did (RiP Guy V. Lewis, he had a great, underrated career otherwise). Olajuwon was so good he is the last player to date to be named Tournament MOP (~FF MVP~) on a losing team and frankly, he was the only reason Houston was even in that game because he took over at the start of the second half but the high altitude of Albuquerque got to him and when he went to the bench for a literal breather, NC State starting getting back in the game.

[midnightpulp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=picHIDnFzEc

The soccer world is notorious for overrating player speed. They estimated Robben's sprint in the world cup at 37kmh before FIFA came in and downgraded it to 31kph.

https://pics.onsizzle.com/Instagram-Fastest-players-in-the-world-Thoughts-d15f48.png

That estimate of Bale's speed took place in 2013, before FIFA implemented their sensor gates and EA implemented their high speed cameras and sensors (EA is another company that tracks sprint speed).

Bale's top speed of 34.7 makes sense. (Robben was downgraded by about 6km, as well).

25 mph would put Bale into elite Olympic sprinter territory. Best of the best. A medal favorite (If he could run 25mph on grass into wind, he would probably gain 1-2mph on a track) Donovan Bailey reached 27mph for instance.

Bale ran the 100m in 11.4 in high school. Adrian Peterson in high school ran it in 10.6.

[Kawhitstorm]

See above. You missed the point, which was that Olajuwon's quote didn't end the thread.

Holla at me when Jordan claims Beisbol gave him an advantage over Euro/African player.:sleep

[offset formation]

As an olive branch extension to the soccer crew, instead of getting in a pissing contest over which sport has the better athletes, let's appreciate some impressive basketball feats by baseball and soccer players. :toast

Mariners pitcher Taijuan Walker:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWDGk6l1lMs

3rd Basemen Brett Lawrie throwing it down:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/6-QoLM.gif

Mike Trout goofing around in street clothes.

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Trout beating Raymond in P-I-G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-B9pcCotr0

Former Dodger and Robz4000 's boy Matt Kemp:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkvrgmh68M

Matt Kemp showing off some range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzY7Fgz5DX0

Soccer players

Ronaldo dunking a soccer ball on what looks like an 8 foot high goal:

http://www.ronaldocr7.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/feauterd-image-04022016-Can-Real-Madrid-hotshot-Cristiano-Ronaldo-dunk.jpg

Raheem Sterling showing the sick pump fake and crossover to Wayne Rooney:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/rtRyxQ.gif

FC Bayern showing us how it's done with some great team play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw7zwMqsCbk

Neymar SKYING in for the layup:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2016/hLq-Jl.gif

Messi with the VINCE CAHHTER:

http://offcourtissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/messi_dunk.png

:toast to these amazing athletes.

:lmao

[Caltex2]

Holla at me when Jordan claims Beisbol gave him an advantage over Euro/African player.:sleep

Olajuwon saying it doesn't mean spit and I'm a Rockets homer (though I'm good about not being a blind homer). Soccer and basketball are very different sports though I'll give it to you that the back and forth sprinting with minimal breaks and his role as goal protector was similar in both cases.

[Kawhitstorm]

Olajuwon saying it doesn't mean spit

Yeah, your words have more weight than the Hakeem's when it comes to Hakeem's PERSONAL experience.:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

https://pics.onsizzle.com/Instagram-Fastest-players-in-the-world-Thoughts-d15f48.png


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[midnightpulp]

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I dig that the EPL has (legit) stat-tracking now.

I'm literally addicted to MLBStatcast, so hopefully we see a similar thing happen for stat-tracking in other sports. Love to see the highest in game verts and sprint speeds in the NBA.

[Caltex2]

Yeah, your words have more weight than the Hakeem's when it comes to Hakeem's PERSONAL experience.:lmao

I think riding in cars and paying attention to the drivers, road and road signs helped me a lot when it came time to start driving. It doesn't make it true.

It's great he feels that way but it doesn't make it true. I'll take his word for it but it proves nothing.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'll take his word for it but it proves nothing.

Talk about an oxyMORON.:lol

[Caltex2]

If I tell you jumping on a trampoline helped me excel at football or track (it strengthens your legs after a while), would you believe me? Is something like that even verifiable or something we could generally agree on?

I'll take his word on it but just because he believes it doesn't make it true.

[Kawhitstorm]

If I tell you jumping on a trampoline helped me excel at football or track (it strengthens your legs after a while), would you believe me? Is something like that even verifiable or something we could generally agree on?

This is how it works dummy, you have to be a natural athlete to be fleet footed like Hakeem but futbol helped him work on his motor skills just like Kirby/Porker.

Futbol isn't the only activity that helps you work on your footwork but it's the best sport to develop footwork. AAU isn't teaching kids about footwork & it's best to learn motor skills when you are young. If you play futbol growing up then you are working on your footwork as a natural part of the game.:rolleyes