View Full Version : OT: Would you call Kobe a 1B?
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 04:54 AM
If you had to sum up Kobe's real identity, would that be a fair summation?
Killakobe81
08-02-2016, 08:06 AM
If you had to sum up Kobe's real identity, would that be a fair summation?
He was a 1.
But in the 3peat era ...
2000 a #2
2001 Regular season still a #2
2001 Playoffs 1B
2001 Finals a #2
2002 Regular season a #1
2002 Playoffs 1B
2002 Finals 1B
2003-2004 1B
2005-2013 #1
2014-2016 Dead man walking ...
whitemamba
08-02-2016, 12:58 PM
nah, but id call OP's mom a 1B, and his sister 1A.
Molotov
08-02-2016, 01:21 PM
He was a 1.
But in the 3peat era ...
2000 a #2
2001 Regular season still a #2
2001 Playoffs 1B
2001 Finals a #2
2002 Regular season a #1
2002 Playoffs 1B
2002 Finals 1B
2003-2004 1B
2005-2013 #1
2014-2016 Dead man walking ...
:lmao
spurraider21
08-02-2016, 03:36 PM
He was a 1.
But in the 3peat era ...
2000 a #2
2001 Regular season still a #2
2001 Playoffs 1B
2001 Finals a #2
2002 Regular season a #1
2002 Playoffs 1B
2002 Finals 1B
2003-2004 1B
2005-2013 #1
2014-2016 Dead man walking ...
He was the clear #1 in the 2004 finals tbh
poeticism707
08-02-2016, 04:21 PM
nah, but id call OP's mom a 1B, and his sister 1A.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
Joseph Kony
08-02-2016, 04:25 PM
He's a B imo. True 1A players don't miss the playoffs in their primes
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 05:09 PM
2005-2013 #1
1's don't lead their teams to 37-45 records. 1B's do though.
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 05:10 PM
He was the clear #1 in the 2004 finals tbh
He looked like a 2. Problem is Shaq was looking like a 2, too.
baseline bum
08-02-2016, 05:41 PM
He was the clear #1 in the 2004 finals tbh
Looked more like a strong #2 tbh
baseline bum
08-02-2016, 05:44 PM
Problem is Shaq was looking like a 2, too.
26.6 and 10.8 on 63% shooting against the Wallace boys are beta numbers?
whitemamba
08-02-2016, 06:42 PM
He looked like a 2. Problem is Shaq was looking like a 2, too.
:lol spurfan born 2 years ago
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 07:38 PM
:lol spurfan born 2 years ago
Lakers butchered to pieces in 04. Calling Kobe and Shaq 2's was being gracious.
ambchang
08-02-2016, 07:38 PM
Greatest sidekick of all time, edging out magic for the honours.
Pippen mchale are the second tier number 2s
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 07:39 PM
26.6 and 10.8 on 63% shooting against the Wallace boys are beta numbers?
He was fat and slow. Pistons were letting him get numbers while they kept all the perimeter betas in check. I remember him getting some easy put backs and non-double team baskets here and there while the Pistons clinically carved up the Lakers at the other end.
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 07:40 PM
Greatest sidekick of all time, edging out magic for the honours.
Pippen mchale are the second tier number 2s
Magic was more like a side side-kick. Worthy was Kareem's sidekick.
Clipper Nation
08-03-2016, 09:27 AM
Kobe has always been a role player at best on any playoff team. 1B is giving him way too much credit. Every time he tried to live above his means and be the first option, it absolutely destroyed the Lakers. Case in point: 2004 Finals, 2005-2008, 2012-2016.
LkrFan
08-03-2016, 06:13 PM
If you had to sum up Kobe's real identity, would that be a fair summation?
Jim is a 1 Bronze Medal :lol
Molotov
08-03-2016, 08:20 PM
Kobe has always been a role player at best on any playoff team. 1B is giving him way too much credit. Every time he tried to live above his means and be the first option, it absolutely destroyed the Lakers. Case in point: 2004 Finals, 2005-2008, 2012-2016.
:tu
Jim is a 1 Bronze Medal :lol
:lol
+10 points, Jorge
LkrFan
08-03-2016, 10:15 PM
:lol
+10 points, Jorge
:lol
If you had to sum up Kobe's real identity, would that be a fair summation?
Nagger
Koolaid_Man
08-04-2016, 05:28 AM
If you had to sum up Kobe's real identity, would that be a fair summation?
He was a man...he fucked over 200 women in his playing days and unlike Timmy D he didn't let other men live with him nor did he take it up the ass....he didn't allow illegal aliens steal his bitch and his money..
Spurtacular
08-04-2016, 07:59 PM
He was a man.....
So, role player?
tonight...you
08-04-2016, 08:04 PM
So, role player?
Ha ha ha! Well played.
He was a man...he fucked over 200 women in his playing days and unlike Timmy D he didn't let other men live with him nor did he take it up the ass....he didn't allow illegal aliens steal his bitch and his money..
lol he married an illegal alien. She automatically has half of everything.
Chinook
08-05-2016, 09:03 AM
Did you mean to say 12B?
DPG21920
08-05-2016, 11:08 AM
He was a man...he fucked over 200 women in his playing days and unlike Timmy D he didn't let other men live with him nor did he take it up the ass....he didn't allow illegal aliens steal his bitch and his money..
Kobe's wife owns half of everything Kobe earned, his parents stole from him and he has a gay sex tape :lol
spursmvp
08-05-2016, 01:04 PM
He was a man...he fucked over 200 women in his playing days and unlike Timmy D he didn't let other men live with him nor did he take it up the ass....he didn't allow illegal aliens steal his bitch and his money..
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/004/149/kobe-bryant.jpg
Definitely a man.
Thread
08-05-2016, 01:10 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/004/149/kobe-bryant.jpg
Definitely a man.
Kobe: 5
the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th
LkrFan
08-05-2016, 04:55 PM
Kobe's wife owns half of everything Kobe earned, his parents stole from him and he has a gay sex tape :lol
Don't be a chickenshit. Are your Spurs winning it all this year or shining shoes just like my Lakers? Chop chop.
DPG21920
08-05-2016, 05:11 PM
:lmao Laker fans missing the playoffs and becoming Philly West are not trying to act like being a laughing stock vs contender is all the same if you don't win it all :lmao
^ Sorry to hear about the Big Lebowski passing.
DPG21920
08-06-2016, 11:34 AM
^ Sorry to hear about the Big Lebowski passing.
It's ok and it's funny how you are probably one of the few people that actually understand that the "Big Lebowski" is actually him vs Jeff Bridges
Chucho
08-07-2016, 09:47 AM
It's ok and it's funny how you are probably one of the few people that actually understand that the "Big Lebowski" is actually him vs Jeff Bridges
ummm only tools whove never seen the movie wouldnt know. if youe even seen it once, you should know. its my favorite movie ever, sad times. John Goodman is next.
Chucho
08-07-2016, 09:48 AM
Kobe cant be a 1 B unless that is short for 1st Class Beta.
djohn2oo8
08-07-2016, 10:15 AM
Kobe's best run as a number one option was the 2009 playoffs.
Thread
08-07-2016, 11:50 AM
Kobe's best run as a number one option was the 2009 playoffs.
It didn't hurt that he found that idiot Howard across the way came June.
Spurtacular
08-09-2016, 03:56 AM
It didn't hurt that he found that idiot Howard across the way came June.
Or that Pau was 1A
But yea; beating a 2 was pretty easy.
Koolaid_Man
08-09-2016, 05:08 AM
ummm only tools whove never seen the movie wouldnt know. if youe even seen it once, you should know. its my favorite movie ever, sad times. John Goodman is next.
Bend over and I'll show u a complete tool....and your favorite movie ever
Koolaid_Man
08-09-2016, 05:10 AM
lol he married an illegal alien. She automatically has half of everything.
Bend over and I'll show you an illegal alien
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-09-2016, 07:26 AM
Or that Pau was 1A
But yea; beating a 2 was pretty easy.
Kobe had the higher usage rate...
ambchang
08-09-2016, 08:45 AM
Kobe had the higher usage rate...
And still didn't lead his team in VORP, BPM, WS or ORTG-DRTG.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-09-2016, 01:44 PM
And still didn't lead his team in VORP, BPM, WS or ORTG-DRTG.
Actually, Kobe did lead the Lakers in win shares in the 2009 playoffs. :lol
ambchang
08-09-2016, 02:09 PM
Actually, Kobe did lead the Lakers in win shares in the 2009 playoffs. :lol
:lol, 20 game sample playing against 4 teams. Much like how Drexler led the Rockets in ws in 95 playoffs.
Chucho
08-09-2016, 03:01 PM
Bend over and I'll show u a complete tool....and your favorite movie ever
Riiigghhhtttt...ever stop that anal leakage from the poundings you take routinely, faggot?
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-09-2016, 06:00 PM
:lol, 20 game sample playing against 4 teams. Much like how Drexler led the Rockets in ws in 95 playoffs.
You said he never led them. He did. Now you are backtracking...
You said he never led them. He did. Now you are backtracking...
History2b getting his shit pushed in as usual.
ambchang
08-09-2016, 08:14 PM
You said he never led them. He did. Now you are backtracking...
Do you know the difference between leading over a season vs leading against 4 teams? What's next? Kobe led the lakers in a few metrics vs the Spurs in 2001 so he's led the team in those categories?
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-09-2016, 08:42 PM
Do you know the difference between leading over a season vs leading against 4 teams? What's next? Kobe led the lakers in a few metrics vs the Spurs in 2001 so he's led the team in those categories?
You said he never led them. He did. Now you are moving goalposts since you lost on the subject.
ambchang
08-10-2016, 02:10 AM
You said he never led them. He did. Now you are moving goalposts since you lost on the subject.
He never led them to a championship.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-10-2016, 07:22 AM
He never led them to a championship.
Yes he did. He led them in win shares in the playoffs too. Multiple times.
ambchang
08-10-2016, 07:49 AM
Yes he did. He led them in win shares in the playoffs too. Multiple times.
The NBA is a season, not just the playoffs. Get with the program please.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-10-2016, 01:42 PM
The NBA is a season, not just the playoffs. Get with the program please.
The playoffs are actually referred to as the post season, because they are AFTER the season :lol
ambchang
08-10-2016, 02:52 PM
The playoffs are actually referred to as the post season, because they are AFTER the season :lol
You are diving deeper and deeper in the strategy of acting stupid to win an argument.
It's not working.
Kobe never led a team to a championship, statistics proved it.
He did lead his teams to miss the playoffs though, and he did lead his team to an end to a three-peat though, as you pointed out.
Spurtacular
08-10-2016, 04:52 PM
Kobe had the higher usage rate...
A higher ball hog rate?
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-10-2016, 06:03 PM
A higher ball hog rate?
Nope. He was utilized the most, and won as a first option.
Spurtacular
08-10-2016, 09:27 PM
Nope. He was utilized the most, and won as a first option.
So, higher ball hog rate and won one Pau's coattails.
LkrFan
08-11-2016, 05:41 AM
:lmao Laker fans missing the playoffs and becoming Philly West are not trying to act like being a laughing stock vs contender is all the same if you don't win it all :lmao
DPG got jokes. We ain't no Philly West - we were tanking. There's a difference. If you really think that, you need to listen to Screaming A's advice:
Cil7tOPh4qM
:lol
Thread
08-11-2016, 07:10 AM
won one Pau's coattails.
Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
resistanze
08-11-2016, 09:12 AM
Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Though Pau won a playoff series after Kobe had won his last.
Spurtacular
08-11-2016, 01:58 PM
Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Pau: 2
Kob: 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Thread
08-11-2016, 06:32 PM
Though Pau won a playoff series after Kobe had won his last.
Pau: 2
Kob: 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Spurtacular
08-12-2016, 05:08 AM
Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
1B Kobe couldn't even take the Lakers to the playoffs in his prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taLvJ19Fm4Q
Thread
08-12-2016, 09:31 AM
1B Kobe couldn't even take the Lakers to the playoffs in his prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taLvJ19Fm4Q
Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Spurtacular
08-12-2016, 03:39 PM
Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Dos a cero, bro.
Thread
08-12-2016, 03:58 PM
Dos a cero, bro.
It's okay, Spurts, now he has your fellows to hold his hand.
JohnnyMax
08-12-2016, 04:25 PM
http://lakergifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/KobeWink.gif
Spurtacular
08-12-2016, 05:36 PM
It's okay, Spurts, now he has your fellows to hold his hand.
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Thread
08-12-2016, 10:09 PM
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Spurtacular
08-13-2016, 02:19 AM
Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Thread
08-13-2016, 04:54 AM
^^^
Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
Spurtacular
08-13-2016, 08:13 PM
^^^
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-13-2016, 08:26 PM
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Pau wasn't a winner in Memphis.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-13-2016, 08:45 PM
18-12 record against Duncan in the playoffs
Spur-Addict
08-13-2016, 08:58 PM
I would call him the best jockey ever.
Spurtacular
08-13-2016, 09:01 PM
Pau wasn't a winner in Memphis.
05-07 with no Shaq or Pau, Prime Kobe's Lakers were four games below .500 (121-125) with no second round appearances.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-13-2016, 09:03 PM
05-07 with no Shaq or Pau, Prime Kobe's Lakers were four games below .500 (121-125) with no second round appearances.
Pau hadn't won one playoff game. Not one.
Thread
08-13-2016, 09:30 PM
Pau hadn't won one playoff game. Not one.
Nary
Spurtacular
08-14-2016, 04:11 AM
Pau hadn't won one playoff game. Not one.
Kobe had Odom and Butler. That was like a 2A-2B-3 combo. Pau had nobody. That's why they went from a playoff team to a team that couldn't win 20 games when he wasn't playing.
Thread
08-14-2016, 05:34 AM
Kobe had Odom and Butler. That was like a 2A-2B-3 combo. Pau had nobody. That's why they went from a playoff team to a team that couldn't win 20 games when he wasn't playing.
Nary
Spurtacular
08-14-2016, 06:00 AM
Nary
I don't speak gay code.
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-14-2016, 08:06 AM
Nary
They are sour because Jim lost 18 times to Kobe in the playoffs, hence the MVPau talk, even though the numbers don't support that.
Spurtacular
08-14-2016, 08:16 AM
They are sour because Jim lost 18 times to Kobe in the playoffs, hence the MVPau talk, even though the numbers don't support that.
The numbers don't lie.
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
KobeOwnsDuncan
08-14-2016, 08:33 AM
The numbers don't lie.
09 Finals
Kobe - 43 FG
Pau -60 FG
10 Finals*
Kobe 40.5 FG
Pau 47.8 FG
*Game 7: Kobe 7-28 FG, Pau makes game winning shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
08-09 Playoffs:
Kobe's PER: 26.8
Pau's PER: 21.9
Kobe's Win Shares: 4.7
Pau's WS: 4.3
Kobe's WS per 48: .238
Pau's WS per 48: .221
Kobe's VORP: 2.2
Pau's Vorp: 2.0
Kobe's BPM: 7.5
Pau's: 6.5
Spurtacular
08-15-2016, 03:14 AM
08-09 Playoffs:
Kobe's PER: 26.8
Pau's PER: 21.9
Kobe's Win Shares: 4.7
Pau's WS: 4.3
Kobe's WS per 48: .238
Pau's WS per 48: .221
Kobe's VORP: 2.2
Pau's Vorp: 2.0
Kobe's BPM: 7.5
Pau's: 6.5
Pau led the team in WS both seasons. Kobe was a 40 FG shooter in both finals. Pau carried Kobe, tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Thread
08-15-2016, 07:28 AM
Pau led the team in WS both seasons. Kobe was a 40 FG shooter in both finals. Pau carried Kobe, tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
Nary
Spurtacular
08-15-2016, 02:48 PM
Nary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU
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