Would you call D-Rob a 1A?

[Spurtacular]

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[Thread]

A pantywaist.

[Spurtacular]

CLANG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_8_7gorEug

[Obstructed_View]

Only guy in the modern era to win a title with no all-stars on his team.

[Thread]

Tried to proselytize Rodman and it cost the Spurs a Championship run.

[Thread]

Snuck up behind Duncan & hugged him tight. Luva snapped the picture with his Brownie.

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Permitted [Spurs Fan] to treat him like garbage because he couldn't win the big one.

He could sit on it, but, he could not win it.

[Thread]

Let Cosmo Cosmo him.

[Thread]

Shaved his ass + walked backwards so the dog would play with him.

[Thread]

Same exact problem as Duncan:::could not, for the life of himself---repeat.

[Kool Bob Love]

This guy^^^:rolleyes

[Thread]

This guy^^^:rolleyes

You guys are forever takin' pot shots at Kobe. What's good for the goose is certainly sauce for that fuckin' gander, Lovey.

[AlexJones]

B

[SpursforSix]

You guys are forever takin' pot shots at Kobe. What's good for the goose is certainly sauce for that fuckin' gander, Lovey.

You've got it wrong. Kobe is the best rapist to ever play in the NBA.

[Thread]

You've got it wrong. Kobe is the best rapist to ever play in the NBA.

You've nary room as well. Your Neal raped.

[DMC]

You guys are forever takin' pot shots at Kobe. What's good for the goose is certainly sauce for that fuckin' gander, Lovey.
"muh kobe" :cry

[SpursforSix]

You've nary room as well. Your Neal raped.

See...I compliment Kobe and you throw mud.

[Thread]

See...I compliment Kobe and you throw mud.

Bend over. I'll throw some fuckin' mud.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over. I'll throw some fuckin' mud.

Ah nuts. I gave you that one.

[Spurtacular]

You guys are forever takin' pot shots at Kobe. What's good for the goose is certainly sauce for that fuckin' gander, Lovey.

You're gay at the end of the day (and the start).

[StrengthAndHonor]

B just like Pau, Blake and Pippen.

[Spurtacular]

B just like Pau, Blake and Pippen.

Pau was 1A.

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Pau was 1A.

He couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

[djohn2oo8]

1B

[Spurtacular]

He couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

Kobe wasn't even making the playoffs with Pau out of town :lmao

[z0sa]

Without a doubt, 1A.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Without a doubt, 1A.

He never won as a 1A...

[namlook]

Only guy in the modern era to win a title with no all-stars on his team.

2004 isn't part of the modern era? Ben Wallace won a championship with no all stars.

[Chris]

CLANG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_8_7gorEug

:lol

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Kobe wasn't even making the playoffs with Pau out of town :lmao

Kobe: 5

Gasol: 2

[Molotov]

Kobe wasn't even making the playoffs with Pau out of town :lmao


true

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true

Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

[Spurtacular]

Kobe: 5

Gasol: 2

1A Count

Gasol: TWO
Kobe: FOREVER ZERO

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1A Count

Gasol: TWO
Kobe: FOREVER ZERO

I don't do that silly shit.

I leave that to you children.

[Leetonidas]

2004 isn't part of the modern era? Ben Wallace won a championship with no all stars.

Only player to win a ring more than once without an all-nba teammate in that season tbh

[Spurtacular]

I don't do that silly shit.

I leave that to you children.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Only player to win a ring more than once without an all-nba teammate in that season tbh

lulz who?

[z0sa]

He never won as a 1A...

A lot of 1As dont. It is a team game and even the best teams can deal with injuries and chemistry issues.

[Spurtacular]

A lot of 1As dont. It is a team game and even the best teams can deal with injuries and chemistry issues.

If they don't ring, they're likely 1Bs or just straight up 2's.

[Obstructed_View]

2004 isn't part of the modern era? Ben Wallace won a championship with no all stars.

Ben Wallace was an all star in 2004, scroh.

[Spurtacular]

2004 isn't part of the modern era? Ben Wallace won a championship with no all stars.

Ben Wallace? He was not even a 1B.

1A's you put on a team, and they're gonna get you at least to a conference finals. People seem to be using a low brow definition of 1A; as if every team has one.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

A lot of 1As dont. It is a team game and even the best teams can deal with injuries and chemistry issues.

Actually yes they do. Because if they don't then they are a second option...

[TDMVPDPOY]

Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

his career aint over yet clown...whose to say he wont win one game with the sperms?

[Thread]

his career aint over yet clown...whose to say he wont win one game with the sperms?

Wouldn't change my premise:::Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

[ambchang]

Wouldn't change my premise:::Pau couldn't even win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

And Kobe couldn't even get to the playoffs after MVPau let go of his hand.

[Leetonidas]

lol at cub still clinging to shitty Pau excuse. Unfortunately for the snitch, Pau has since been an all star and led his team to the playoffs and won a playoff series while Kobe has been....well y'all know :lmao

[Leetonidas]

Pau without Kobe: playoff series victory
Kobe without daddy or Pau: missed playoffs, choked up 3-1, never won a playoff series, worst season in LAL history
Daddy without Kobe: champ

:lmao

[chunticakes]

Pau without Kobe: playoff series victory
Kobe without daddy or Pau: missed playoffs, choked up 3-1, never won a playoff series, worst season in LAL history
Daddy without Kobe: champ

:lmao

Truth bombs, tbh..

However Kobe still remains my favorite rapist.

[Fabbs]

Only guy in the modern era to win a title with no all-stars on his team.
?
Are you talking about Robinson?
Timmy Duncan is not an All Star? :rollin

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Pau without Kobe: playoff series victory
Kobe without daddy or Pau: missed playoffs, choked up 3-1, never won a playoff series, worst season in LAL history
Daddy without Kobe: champ

:lmao

Kobe: 5

Daddy: 4

Pau: 2

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lol at cub still clinging to shitty Pau excuse. Unfortunately for the snitch, Pau has since been an all star and led his team to the playoffs and won a playoff series while Kobe has been....well y'all know :lmao

Because it's true and it is for all time. That's the beauty of it.

[Leetonidas]

but it's also true Kobe has won nary a series without Pau while Gasol has at least taken his team to the second round without Kobe. These are facts

[Spurtacular]

Kobe:

Daddy: 4

Pau: 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

but it's also true Kobe has won nary a series without Pau while Gasol has at least taken his team to the second round without Kobe. These are facts

Kobe has won as the main option. Gasol has not.

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but it's also true Kobe has won nary a series without Pau while Gasol has at least taken his team to the second round without Kobe. These are facts

Then you need to stick with that.

Me? Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

[Spurtacular]

Me? Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

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All these years later what stands out the most about Robinson is how Spurs Fan turned on him, called him everything but a black man because he could not ring. And Media helped 50/50 in the destruction of Robinson. That was before Pop, before Duncan, before the sun shone on ya's. You were fair game and Robinson was crucified. I didn't think much of it then, you weren't anything to me. I just watched the black man get posted & whipped. Kinda like a pseudo Holocaust.

It's all been white washed now, hidden away. Robinson, he holds no grudge, or, at least has enough sense to keep it hidden.

Spurs Fan...eh, big shots.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

All these years later what stands out the most about Robinson is how Spurs Fan turned on him, called him everything but a black man because he could not ring. And Media helped 50/50 in the destruction of Robinson. That was before Pop, before Duncan, before the sun shone on ya's. You were fair game and Robinson was crucified. I didn't think much of it then, you weren't anything to me. I just watched the black man get posted & whipped. Kinda like a pseudo Holocaust.

It's all been white washed now, hidden away. Robinson, he holds no grudge, or, at least has enough sense to keep it hidden.

Spurs Fan...eh, big shots.
He was a choker and stat padder

[namlook]

Ben Wallace was an all star in 2004, scroh.

Of course he was. But the point is Ben Wallace had no other all stars on his team when he won a championship....why do I even have to explain this to you?

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Bible thumper

[Thread]

He was a choker and stat padder

Big time choker. If Duncan hadn't sashayed in God only knows what would have happened to Robinson. Lynched, drummed out of the Navy, saber broke in half thrown out the front gates like the Rifleman/Chuck Conners in "Branded." What do you do when you're branded, and you know you're a man?

[TDfan2007]

DRob was essentially the center version of KG. Incredible talent, versatile, and put up mind-blowing stats. Neither player had particularly good supporting casts for most of their primes and neither was able to find that extra gear come playoff time. Both also settled more jumpers and relied more on their faceup game.

Was KG a 1A? I'd say so. You don't have to win a title to be a number 1 option/franchise player.

[Spurtacular]

All these years later what stands out the most about Robinson is how Spurs Fan turned on him, called him everything but a black man because he could not ring. And Media helped 50/50 in the destruction of Robinson. That was before Pop, before Duncan, before the sun shone on ya's. You were fair game and Robinson was crucified. I didn't think much of it then, you weren't anything to me. I just watched the black man get posted & whipped. Kinda like a pseudo Holocaust.

It's all been white washed now, hidden away. Robinson, he holds no grudge, or, at least has enough sense to keep it hidden.

Spurs Fan...eh, big shots.

Harlem?

[Spurtacular]

DRob was essentially the center version of KG. Incredible talent, versatile, and put up mind-blowing stats. Neither player had particularly good supporting casts for most of their primes and neither was able to find that extra gear come playoff time. Both also settled more jumpers and relied more on their faceup game.

Was KG a 1A? I'd say so. You don't have to win a title to be a number 1 option/franchise player.

I'd put D-Rob as a 1A before I would Kobe. Offensively, was he 1A? I felt like he needed a good 1B he never had. Defensively, that guy was 1A even when he was past his prime. The Knicks just couldn't get any inside game going with him anchoring that defense.

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Harlem?

Arn

[Spurtacular]

Arn

Arn?

[z0sa]

DRob was essentially the center version of KG. Incredible talent, versatile, and put up mind-blowing stats. Neither player had particularly good supporting casts for most of their primes and neither was able to find that extra gear come playoff time. Both also settled more jumpers and relied more on their faceup game.

Was KG a 1A? I'd say so. You don't have to win a title to be a number 1 option/franchise player.

Yeah. It is only spoiled fans who think a player can't be a 1a just because he couldn't win a title all by his freaking self.

[Thread]

Arn?

Arn

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Yeah. It is only spoiled fans who think a player can't be a 1a just because he couldn't win a title all by his freaking self.

No it's not he couldn't win by himself. He could not win as the first option.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

I'd put D-Rob as a 1A before I would Kobe. Offensively, was he 1A? I felt like he needed a good 1B he never had. Defensively, that guy was 1A even when he was past his prime. The Knicks just couldn't get any inside game going with him anchoring that defense.

Kobe has won as the first option. Robinson got his shit pushed in when it counted...

[ambchang]

Kobe has won as the first option. Robinson got his shit pushed in when it counted...

Was it the year he led his team in WS, ORTG/DRTG difference, BPM or VORP (not and, or)?

My bad, never happened.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Was it the year he led his team in WS, ORTG/DRTG difference, BPM or VORP (not and, or)?

My bad, never happened.

Was it the year Robinson led his team to the finals as the main option ? My bad, never happened.

[ambchang]

Was it the year Robinson led his team to the finals as the main option ? My bad, never happened.

So they are either both 1a or both 1b. You choose.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

So they are either both 1a or both 1b. You choose.

Kobe is obviously a first option. He has won as one. Robinson has not. He is option B.

[Obstructed_View]

Of course he was. But the point is Ben Wallace had no other all stars on his team when he won a championship....why do I even have to explain this to you?

I keep asking myself the same question, dude. :lol

[ambchang]

Kobe is obviously a first option. He has won as one. Robinson has not. He is option B.

I've shown you he hasn't. So they were either both 1as or both 1bs.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

I've shown you he hasn't. So they were either both 1as or both 1bs.
I have shown you he has. Being the go to guy, the first option, Kobe has won.

[ambchang]

I have shown you he has. Being the go to guy, the first option, Kobe has won.
Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.
Did he win as the go to guy? Yes he did. His usage rate, being the most utilized on the team. He won. And yes, he led in win shares. In the playoffs...

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.
I'll put this here...Kobe led the Lakers in OBPM, BPM, and VORP in 2002-2003, and led his team in OBPM in 2008-2009, and 2009-2010...

[ambchang]

Did he win as the go to guy? Yes he did. His usage rate, being the most utilized on the team. He won. And yes, he led in win shares. In the playoffs...

So drexler was a 1A with the rockets?

[ambchang]

I'll put this here...Kobe led the Lakers in OBPM, BPM, and VORP in 2002-2003, and led his team in OBPM in 2008-2009, and 2009-2010...

OBPM was only one part. Not BPM. Cherry picking.

And :lol on 03. Did the lakers win 03?

Was chandler 1a because he led the Mavs in dbpm in 11? You Are being obtuse.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

OBPM was only one part. Not BPM. Cherry picking.

And :lol on 03. Did the lakers win 03?

Was chandler 1a because he led the Mavs in dbpm in 11? You Are being obtuse.

You said he never led in ANY advanced stats. I showed you he did. You lose..

[ambchang]

You said he never led in ANY advanced stats. I showed you he did. You lose..

The boundaries were already drawn when I listed out the advanced stats.

You are the first person to claim victory by acting like a retard. Congrats.

[Spurtacular]

Kobe has won as the first option. Robinson got his shit pushed in when it counted...

Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.

[Spurtacular]

Arn

Arn?

[Thread]

Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.

Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.

[Spurtacular]

Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

[Spurtacular]

Yeah. It is only spoiled fans who think a player can't be a 1a just because he couldn't win a title all by his freaking self.

Then again, some spoiled fans pretend Kobe was a 1A just b/c he was on some teams that ringed.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.
Duncan won because of a short season
Duncan won because of the Sun's suspension
Duncan won because Dirk got hurt
Duncan won because he missed 7 free throws in a row in a crucial game 5 and Ginobli and Horry bailed him out
Duncan shot shitty against Big Z and Anderson fucking Varejo :lol

[Spurtacular]

Duncan won because of a short season

He swept Shaq and the supporting cast, which included role player Kobe, that season.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

He swept Shaq and the supporting cast, which included role player Kobe, that season.
Duncan won because of a short season.

:lol facing an 8 seed in the finals

[Spurtacular]

Duncan won because of a short season.

:lol facing an 8 seed in the finals

99 Knicks were better than 09 Magic, tbh.

But that's in the second place. If he swept Shaq's sorry ass, you have no room to speak in the first place.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

99 Knicks were better than 09 Magic, tbh.

But that's in the second place. If he swept Shaq's sorry ass, you have no room to speak in the first place.
:lmao I guess you don't remember Ewing had a torn achilles and didn't even play in the finals crofl

[Spurtacular]

:lmao I guess you don't remember Ewing had a torn achilles and didn't even play in the finals crofl

And it was debated whether the Knicks were better w/o him, tbh. Dude was a choker. But that's really not the point. 99 Knicks w/o Ewing > Tard Howard's Magic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq3nvSyuWEg

[ambchang]

Duncan won because of a short season
Duncan won because of the Sun's suspension
Duncan won because Dirk got hurt
Duncan won because he missed 7 free throws in a row in a crucial game 5 and Ginobli and Horry bailed him out
Duncan shot shitty against Big Z and Anderson fucking Varejo :lol

Do you really want to play this game?

Kobe got swept, even in a shortened season
6-24
Got outplayed by Austin croschere, Kerry kitties, rip Hamilton, and Allen iverson I the finals
Only counterpart he outplayed was hedo
Got utterly dominated by Paul Pierce in both finals
Won purely because of MVPau and shaq
Got bailed out by fisher, horry, and artest.
Missed playoffs once MVPau is gone
Got kicked in the nuts by Nash, twice.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Do you really want to play this game?

Kobe got swept, even in a shortened season
6-24
Got outplayed by Austin croschere, Kerry kitties, rip Hamilton, and Allen iverson I the finals
Only counterpart he outplayed was hedo
Got utterly dominated by Paul Pierce in both finals
Won purely because of MVPau and shaq
Got bailed out by fisher, horry, and artest.
Missed playoffs once MVPau is gone
Got kicked in the nuts by Nash, twice.

Never lost to an 8th seed as the top seed while fans blaming Manu being injured as the reason :lol

[ambchang]

Never lost to an 8th seed as the top seed while fans blaming Manu being injured as the reason :lol
Missed playoffs FOUR times.
Only laker in history to miss b2b2b playoffs.
Led lakers to worst record (multiple times as well)
Killed the owner.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Never lost to an 8th seed, and never lost to Puerto Rico

[ambchang]

Doing repeats now?

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Doing repeats now?

Anybody ever ask Duncan that?

[z0sa]

Duncan won because of a short season.

:lol facing an 8 seed in the finals

:lol swept

[DMC]

Never lost to an 8th seed as the top seed while fans blaming Manu being injured as the reason :lol
You lost all 4 RS games to Houston last season, and they were the 8th seed. Your caveat is "we weren't good enough to be the 1st seed"

Great defense there sparky. You suck so bad you're out of the conversation.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

:lol swept
:lol 8th seed Knicks in the finals

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Really? Pretty sure you lost all 4 RS games to Houston last season, and they were the 8th seed.
Did you miss the part where I said "as the 1 seed"? Go back and re-read that sentence.

[DMC]

Did you miss the part where I said "as the 1 seed"? Go back and re-read that sentence.

You need to re-read. Your mind has a no vacancy sign, because the entire Spurs organization has holed up in there.

[DMC]

:lol 8th seed Knicks in the finals
Your super team swept by a team that didn't even make the Finals.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

You need to re-read. Your mind has a no vacancy sign, because the entire Spurs organization has holed up in there.
You got embarrassed because you couldn't comprehend one simple sentence...:lol

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

DMC going back to edit once he figured he misunderstood it...:rollin

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Your super team swept by a team that didn't even make the Finals.
Spurs lost to a team that didnt make the finals in 1999-2000 (suns), # 5 seed,
lost to a lower seeded team in 2000-2001 (2 Lakers),
lost to a lower seeded team in 2001-2002 (3 lakers),
lost to a team that lost to the champs in 2003-2004,
lost to a lower seeded team who lost to the champs in 2005-2006,
lost to a team who lost to the champs in 2007-2008,
lost to a lower seeded team again in 2008-2009 who didn't make the finals,
lost to a team who didn't make the finals in 2009-2010,
lost to the lowest seeded team who didn't make the finals in 2010-2011,
lost to a lower seeded team who lost to the champs in 2011-2012,
lost to a team who never made the finals in 2014-2015,
lost to a lower seeded team again who lost to the champs.

[DMC]

You got embarrassed because you couldn't comprehend one simple sentence...:lol


DMC going back to edit once he figured he misunderstood it...:rollin


Spurs lost to a team that didnt make the finals in 1999-2000 (suns), # 5 seed,
lost to a lower seeded team in 2000-2001 (2 Lakers),
lost to a lower seeded team in 2001-2002 (3 lakers),
lost to a team that lost to the champs in 2003-2004,
lost to a lower seeded team who lost to the champs in 2005-2006,
lost to a team who lost to the champs in 2007-2008,
lost to a lower seeded team again in 2008-2009 who didn't make the finals,
lost to a team who didn't make the finals in 2009-2010,
lost to the lowest seeded team who didn't make the finals in 2010-2011,
lost to a lower seeded team who lost to the champs in 2011-2012,
lost to a team who never made the finals in 2014-2015,
lost to a lower seeded team again who lost to the champs.

http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/randmid_1284153161_riley.jpg

Don't get "Riled"

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

DMC earning a bronze.

[ambchang]

Anybody ever ask Duncan that?

Another team accomplishment used to exaggerate kobes legacy.

Any player in the conversation of top 10 all time has won at least one championship as the top dog. Strangely enough, Kobe is the only player in the conversation of top 10 all time who has never led his team in ws, VORP, ws/48 or BPM on the way to a championship throughout the season. He also has by far the worst individual accomplishments amongst that group (MVPs, fmvp, dpoy, etc).

It's strange, it really is. The only other player who can say that is possibly dr j, but dr j, as entertaining as he was, is not really on most people's top 10, and even he led the 6ers in BPM and VORP in 1983. Even non top 10 players did those deeds, players like dirk, MVPau, Pierce, curry, and wade are just some recent samples.

Every title team, or even contending team, Kobe has ever been on has always been loaded in the front court. From the mde to a frontcourt of MVPau, Bynum and odom in one of the worst frontcourt era in nba history, those lakers teams have always ranked comparatively high in categories for teams with dominant frontcourt (defensive FTA/FTA, rebounding %, offensive rebounding %) but often average or below on guard dominant teams (like tov%, 3pt%, 3 PG defensive %).

But when there are no dominating front courts, those laker teams tend to miss playoffs and get kicked out in the first round.

A top 10 player is supposed to be the rock, I can see a top 10 of all time player getting beat I the first round of your team is weak because oppositions just collapse on you, it happened to the best of them (Duncan, jabbar, Hakeem, even jordan) but to miss the playoffs in an era where more than half the team makes it? It is hard to fathom. I am not talking about a dominant team, I'm talking a slightly below average team. And to miss the playoffs in the year a supposedly lease player (MVPau) with a comparable or arguable weaker supporting cast made the playoffs while you finish like 11th in the conference? Just mind boggling.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Another team accomplishment used to exaggerate kobes legacy.

Any player in the conversation of top 10 all time has won at least one championship as the top dog. Strangely enough, Kobe is the only player in the conversation of top 10 all time who has never led his team in ws, VORP, ws/48 or BPM on the way to a championship throughout the season. He also has by far the worst individual accomplishments amongst that group (MVPs, fmvp, dpoy, etc).

It's strange, it really is. The only other player who can say that is possibly dr j, but dr j, as entertaining as he was, is not really on most people's top 10, and even he led the 6ers in BPM and VORP in 1983. Even non top 10 players did those deeds, players like dirk, Pierce, curry, and wade are just some recent samples.
1. Stop being a moron. That's exactly how people rate players in the top 10, by ring count.
2. Kobe has led them in the playoffs multiple times in those categories, so your claim is invalid.
3. Kobe was worth more wins in the 2008-2009 playoffs than Gasol was
4. Pau was never a top option.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Andre Igoudala has a finals MVP....does that mean he is better than Curry?

[ambchang]

1. Stop being a moron. That's exactly how people rate players in the top 10, by ring count.
2. Kobe has led them in the playoffs multiple times in those categories, so your claim is invalid.
3. Kobe was worth more wins in the 2008-2009 playoffs than Gasol was
4. Pau was never a top option.

Teams play against four teams in the playoffs so they exploit mismatches. Drexler led the rockets in multiple of those categories in the playoffs in 95 but Hakeem was clearly the alpha dog because the matchup a were favourable to Clyde. Same with many in 05. But in the regular season, that's how a team build the offense and defense on the alpha, that's how you play against all the other teams. Not to mention that lakers were playing absolutely crap perimeter defensive teams during that playoff run (Jazz, rockets, nuggets and magic). It'd be retarded for KFC not to take advantage of that and shift the offense to the perimeter and let his 1b take over. Of course, if you try to do that against a great, but not all time great player like Pierce, Kobe gets embarrassed in the finals.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Teams play against four teams in the playoffs so they exploit mismatches. Drexler led the rockets in multiple of those categories in the playoffs in 95 but Hakeem was clearly the alpha dog because the matchup a were favourable to Clyde. Same with many in 05. But in the regular season, that's how a team build the offense and defense on the alpha, that's how you play against all the other teams. Not to mention that lakers were playing absolutely crap perimeter defensive teams during that playoff run (Jazz, rockets, nuggets and magic). It'd be retarded for KFC not to take advantage of that and shift the offense to the perimeter and let his 1b take over. Of course, if you try to do that against a great, but not all time great player like Pierce, Kobe gets embarrassed in the finals.
Pau had not won one single playoff game before joining Kobe, coincidentally, Pau shot his career high in FG% when he played with Kobe. Why didn't Pau win one playoff game as an alpha in Memphis?

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Pau had not won one single playoff game before joining Kobe, coincidentally, Pau shot his career high in FG% when he played with Kobe. Why didn't Pau win one playoff game as an alpha in Memphis?

Nary

[ambchang]

Pau had not won one single playoff game before joining Kobe, coincidentally, Pau shot his career high in FG% when he played with Kobe. Why didn't Pau win one playoff game as an alpha in Memphis?

Because his teams sucked and he's not a top 10 player of all time, I suppose.

But at least you are getting it, Kobe is MVPau tier player, not too 10 type of player. If MVPau had a guard of shaqs dominance (Jordan is the only comparable) he'd have won 5 championships, easy.

[ambchang]

Nary

Still hiding behind other laker fans, eh? Chickenshit.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Because his teams sucked and he's not a top 10 player of all time, I suppose.

But at least you are getting it, Kobe is MVPau tier player, not too 10 type of player. If MVPau had a guard of shaqs dominance (Jordan is the only comparable) he'd have won 5 championships, easy.
You are a liar and you know it. Top dogs can usually will their team at least to ONE playoff victory by themselves. And on the subject of Pau having a guard of Shaq's dominance? Remember, Pau is the beta cuck who let a breakup with his fiance get in his head in the middle of the playoffs. Miss me with that shit. He was a loser before he went to LA. Nobody considered him a top big man before he went to LA either.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Anyway back on topic, no DRob was not a 1A

[ambchang]

You are a liar and you know it. Top dogs can usually will their team at least to ONE playoff victory by themselves. And on the subject of Pau having a guard of Shaq's dominance? Remember, Pau is the beta cuck who let a breakup with his fiance get in his head in the middle of the playoffs. Miss me with that shit. He was a loser before he went to LA. Nobody considered him a top big man before he went to LA either.

So MVPau not only won a playoff game, he led the lakers to two championships. Stats clearly shown who the lead was, it is consistent with every single year for the last thirty years.

Not sure what his personal life has to do with him being a beta. Hey, Kobe divorced his own parents and had to buy a house for his in laws. That's about as beta as it gets. To top it off, he gets to Cry and beg for his wife's forgiveness in front of the entire world. Going by your logic, that's beta and therefore he is a beta on the court as well.

MVPau was a very sort after player even when he was with the grizz. He just got the perfect complimentary player and system for him with the lakers.

[ambchang]

Anyway back on topic, no DRob was not a 1A

Then Kobe isn't a 1a either.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

So MVPau not only won a playoff game, he led the lakers to two championships. Stats clearly shown who the lead was, it is consistent with every single year for the last thirty years.

Not sure what his personal life has to do with him being a beta. Hey, Kobe divorced his own parents and had to buy a house for his in laws. That's about as beta as it gets. To top it off, he gets to Cry and beg for his wife's forgiveness in front of the entire world. Going by your logic, that's beta and therefore he is a beta on the court as well.

MVPau was a very sort after player even when he was with the grizz. He just got the perfect complimentary player and system for him with the lakers.
Pau had not one one single playoff game before LA. He was a loser. Kobe made him a winner

http://mybspn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gasol-kobe1.gif

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Then Kobe isn't a 1a either.
Kobe won as the guy everyone had to get the ball to. Robinson got his shit pushed in as that guy.

[ambchang]

Pau had not one one single playoff game before LA. He was a loser. Kobe made him a winner

http://mybspn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gasol-kobe1.gif
kobe couldn't even make the playoffs after MVPau let go of his hand.

[ambchang]

Kobe won as the guy everyone had to get the ball to. Robinson got his shit pushed in as that guy.

So that MVPau Bynum and odom and get our backs.

[Spurtacular]

Pau had not one one single playoff game before LA. He was a loser. Kobe made him a winner

http://mybspn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gasol-kobe1.gif

Kobe begging for Pau to take over like he did in both finals the Lakers won. 40 FG just doesn't cut it for a role player pretending to be a 1A.

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Kobe begging for Pau to take over like he did in both finals the Lakers won. 40 FG just doesn't cut it for a role player pretending to be a 1A.

Nary

[Spurtacular]

Nary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

The last four characters of the link: PuAU

Even the good people at Google know.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

The last four characters of the link: PuAU

Even the good people at Google know.

Nary

[Spurtacular]

Nary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F_P_qPuAU

The last four characters of the link: PuAU

Even the good people at Google know.

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^^^
Nary