LeBron James says Kawhi Leonard defends him best

[ducks]

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/08/18/lebron-james-says-kawhi-leonard-defends-him-best/

[Seventyniner]

Of course. That bit about Ruben Patterson made me laugh though.

[tonight...you]

I've never seen Lebron get visibly upset over an opposing player enter a game like when he sees Kawhi come back in.
That's so telling.

Forget the numbers. Kawhi makes Lebron a less efficient all-around player and he knows it.

[lefty]

He didn't mention Porker

[tonight...you]

He didn't mention Porker
Good one... One of your better ones.

[SupremeGuy]

Let's how long it takes the fag train to come in here and ruin this thread.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

James had his 3rd and 4th best finals against Spurs in 13 and 14. Michael Finley held James to less points than Kawhi in 2007.:lol

[dabom]

I can spot the non Spurs fans. :lol

[z0sa]

I've never seen Lebron get visibly upset over an opposing player enter a game like when he sees Kawhi come back in.
That's so telling.

Forget the numbers. Kawhi makes Lebron a less efficient all-around player and he knows it.

Dont say that about Bowen though. NASF d9esnt believe in tge eye test for players they havent seen.

[Sean Cagney]

I can spot the non Spurs fans. :lol

Like the LA fan in here above in the thread who uses my team :San Antonio but we know damn well he is an LA fan. YEP.

[dabom]

Like the LA fan in here above in the thread who uses my team :San Antonio but we know damn well he is an LA fan. YEP.

Those guys are funny to me though. The fake fans that really just do it to piss off Spurs fans are the worst. lol

[DeRozan m8]

Aaaaaaaand TGY goes missing as usual...

[BillMc]

Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard, he’s solid. He’s solid, solid at that end of the floor. He’s very, very solid. I like him. I like the kid.

[Mister Sinister]

James had his 3rd and 4th best finals against Spurs in 13 and 14. Michael Finley held James to less points than Kawhi in 2007.:lol

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[YGWHI]

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[GreenApple]

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This is very neat. Thanks for sharing.

[I. Hustle]

Neato Mosquito

[YGWHI]

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[TheGreatYacht]

Put some respeck on Shawn Marion's name!!!!

[buttsR4rebounding]

James had his 3rd and 4th best finals against Spurs in 13 and 14. Michael Finley held James to less points than Kawhi in 2007.:lol

Except that Bruce was the primary defender of James in that series, so that makes that a pretty irrelevant stat.

[elemento]

We know that since 13 tbh

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Except that Bruce was the primary defender of James in that series, so that makes that a pretty irrelevant stat.

36 year old Bruce Bowen and 34 year old Finley did a better job than prime Kawhi :lol

Don't get me wrong. I love Kawhi but saying he had a great defensive career vs James is just not true.

[RD2191]

36 year old Bruce Bowen and 34 year old Finley did a better job than prime Kawhi :lol

Don't get me wrong. I love Kawhi but saying he had a great defensive career vs James is just not true.

You're a special kind of retarded, aren't you?

[Aztecfan03]

Let's how long it takes the fag train to come in here and ruin this thread.
It did before you posted.
see:

He didn't mention Porker

[loveforthegame]

What does James know about basketball? Where does he get off saying who guards him best? We got some select posters right here who know more about it than James ever will.

[ducks]

He didn't mention Porker

he also did not mention manu

[dabom]

What does James know about basketball? Where does he get off saying who guards him best? We got some select posters right here who know more about it than James ever will.

:lol

[SuperCam]

Lucky for spursfan that the King never called up Matt Barnes for advice on shaking Kiwi, tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Lucky for spursfan that the King never called up Matt Barnes for advice on shaking Kiwi, tbh

[cjw]

36 year old Bruce Bowen and 34 year old Finley did a better job than prime Kawhi :lol

Don't get me wrong. I love Kawhi but saying he had a great defensive career vs James is just not true.

Because 23 year old Lebron was as efficient as 28-29 year old peak Lebron... he was a 50.7% eFG% guy in 06-07 and 60%+ in his last two years in Miami.

Can't compare Cleveland young Lebron to Miami Lebron.

[SupremeGuy]

What does James know about basketball? Where does he get off saying who guards him best? We got some select posters right here who know more about it than James ever will.:lol

[BillMc]

What does James know about basketball? Where does he get off saying who guards him best? We got some select posters right here who know more about it than James ever will.

:toast

Taking that same logic, it's funny how many on this board think they know more about the Spurs than Pop, even though they've never seen a practice and he thousands.

[Chris]

The Kingslayer :toast

[SpurPadre]

Appreciate the honesty, unlike Kobe not admitting Bowen defended him the best when everybody knows that's the truth.

[tonight...you]

:toast

Taking that same logic, it's funny how many on this board think they know more about the Spurs than Pop, even though they've never seen a practice and he thousands.
I'm gonna binge-watch some old Aeon Flux toons.
You bastard...

[BillMc]

I'm gonna binge-watch some old Aeon Flux toons.
You bastard...

Ha ha!:toast Enjoy 'em. The shorts from the fist two seasons without dialogue are the best. A pure animated, visual dystopian experience.

[tonight...you]

Ha ha!:toast Enjoy 'em. The shorts from the fist two seasons without dialogue are the best. A pure animated, visual dystopian experience.
I remember watching them on MTV, way back when on some weird cartoon variety show.
I think that's what it was...

Jesus, that was over 2 decades ago.

[BillMc]

I remember watching them on MTV, way back when on some weird cartoon variety show.
I think that's what it was...

Jesus, that was over 2 decades ago.


Liquid Television. Yep, feeling old. :lol (Last season of AF was Timmy's junior year in college! )

[tonight...you]

Liquid Television. Yep, feeling old. :lol (Last season of AF was Timmy's junior year in college! )
Liquid Television, Yes! Damn! I seem to remember some weird foot fetish stuff that would be suggested, or shown in lots of episodes. Lots of images of tongues and moist sounds.
It would throw me off and it was already a weird 'toon to begin with. Like an audio pornilization.

[BillMc]

Liquid Television, Yes! Damn! I seem to remember some weird foot fetish stuff that would be suggested, or shown in lots of episodes. Lots of images of tongues and moist sounds.
It would throw me off and it was already a weird 'toon to begin with. Like an audio pornilization.

Yep. There are a lot of foot and ear fetishes throughout. Though the "pornilization" doesn't really do it justice. There's some heady stuff go on beyond titillation and violence. They use Aeon's skimpy out fit to draw you in but that's just the starting point. As I said, the 2 seasons of dialogue-less vignettes are great because they're pure visual story-telling that plays by its own rules (Aeon, for example, dies in about half the episodes). Part of the fun is the mystery of trying to figure out what is going on and makes for good repeat viewing. The third season, when it became more of a typical show with dialogue and longer conventional plots still had its moments, but then it feels more like any old sci-fi animae.

[SAGirl]

:toast

Taking that same logic, it's funny how many on this board think they know more about the Spurs than Pop, even though they've never seen a practice and he thousands.

He's far from perfect though. He's in the spot to make the tough choices and like every choice in life, you don't always come out in the right side. He himself has expressed some regret over not playing some guys in certain series etc. Pop is open for debate as much as any player bc nothing transpires without his say so. He's fair game.

[BillMc]

He's far from perfect though. He's in the spot to make the tough choices and like every choice in life, you don't always come out in the right side. He himself has expressed some regret over not playing some guys in certain series etc. Pop is open for debate as much as any player bc nothing transpires without his say so. He's fair game.

You can criticize him as you wish, of course. And topics on a forum like this will naturally include discussions of alternatives the coaching staff and front office could have made. No one is infallible. But in general, I realize Pop sees these players several orders of magnitude more than we do. So, I'm going to go with what he does much more often than not.

I think there is a real mob mentality on here, where every time we lose its because "someone screwed up" whether that's Pop, or a player, or RC (for not getting a real or hypothetical player that everyone wanted). I tend to look at it like poker where you play the probabilities over a long game. And Pop, RC and our players (which includes Tony Parker folks) have put us into a position to contend for a very long time. You can't win them all, all you can ask is to be in a position when you realistically could and then every individual season is a crap shoot. Over time, the team that is always contending will usually win more titles as we've seen this played out for us over the last two decades.

So I weigh "Pop didn't play player X when some guy or gal on a message board wanted him to" as a minor sin against the Spurs general success over the years.

For example because of my Latvian connection, I'll be pissed if Pop doesn't play Bertans this year. But I'm mature enough to realize that my anger and disappointment are likely because of my own biases not because Pop "is an idiot."

[SAGirl]

You can criticize him as you wish, of course. And topics on a forum like this will naturally include discussions of alternatives the coaching staff and front office could have made. No one is infallible. But in general, I realize Pop sees these players several orders of magnitude more than we do. So, I'm going to go with what he does much more often than not.

And that is fair, but he is far from infallible and his own assessment of situations is also far from completely objective. It's obvious he gives more leeway to certain guys than others. Sure some guys have earned it, but there is subjectivity at all levels. In fact all decisions are opinions. I am not arrogant to think I know better but as hindisight is always 20/20 I am sure even he has learned from things where he screwed it up himself.

Hah! I just remembered RC admitting how he and the FO screwed up the rerecruitment of Tim intially when he was up for FA. They were lucky Tim is the individual that he is and that Pop had built up a good bond with him (and frankly had they not ever won, it's hard to say that would not have been similar to the Durant situation). These guys do make mistakes. It's actually a better discussion to talk about those bc those are actual decisions than to talk about Tony declining, who can do nothing about being 34 and in his current career stage. Even what happens with that ultimately is on POp.

[BillMc]

And that is fair, but he is far from infallible and his own assessment of situations is also far from completely objective. It's obvious he gives more leeway to certain guys than others. Sure some guys have earned it, but there is subjectivity at all levels. In fact all decisions are opinions. I am not arrogant to think I know better but as hindisight is always 20/20 I am sure even he has learned from things where he screwed it up himself.

Hah! I just remembered RC admitting how he and the FO screwed up the rerecruitment of Tim intially when he was up for FA. They were lucky Tim is the individual that he is and that Pop had built up a good bond with him (and frankly had they not ever won, it's hard to say that would not have been similar to the Durant situation). These guys do make mistakes. It's actually a better discussion to talk about those bc those are actual decisions than to talk about Tony declining, who can do nothing about being 34 and in his current career stage. Even what happens with that ultimately is on POp.

I addressed some of what you said in the addendum I made to my previous post. But when pointing out those alleged mistakes (I say "alleged" because usually there is no consensus among the pissed off posters on this site. All they know is we didn't win, and then say Pop should have done a dozen different things, most of them conflicting. What I say is the very fact that we've been a serious playoff team for so long means in the aggregate Pop, his staff, RC and our key players are making the right decisions.) And as they have that history, I personally tend to be slow to rush to criticize them, while some here (not you) seek the instant gratification of being "out for blood" after every loss.

And, there are, of course, those who are actually rooting for the Spurs to lose so they can say "I told you so" about Pop, a key player, or some poster who showed optimism, etc.

Look how many on here seem to want Kyle to fail so they can say to you "I told you so"? As a Spur fan I try to never root against any player. Especially when the vast majority of our players seem like good guys.

[SAGirl]

I addressed some of what you said in the addendum I made to my previous post. But when pointing out those alleged mistakes (I say "alleged" because usually there is no consensus among the pissed off posters on this site. All they know is we didn't win, and then say Pop should have done a dozen different things, most of them conflicting. What I say is the very fact that we've been a serious playoff team for so long means in the aggregate Pop, his staff, RC and our key players are making the right decisions.) And as they have that history, I personally tend to be slow to rush to criticize them, while some here (not you) seek the instant gratification of being "out for blood" after every loss.

And, there are, of course, those who are actually rooting for the Spurs to lose so they can say "I told you so" about Pop, a key player, or some poster who showed optimism, etc.

Look how many on here seem to want Kyle to fail so they can say to you "I told you so"? As a Spur fan I try to never root against any player. Especially when the vast majority of our players seem like good guys.
One of the things that is a shtick for some guys who are really truly "the haters" vs fans who just comment and give opinions is precisely how strongly they wish players in the team fail.

I mean everyone has their opinion and favorites and that is fine. In fact it's inevitable bc not a single player is flawless.
To have opinions and favorites is one thing. But to actively wish that someone in the team fails is screwed up. If they don't come through, team loses. It's that simple. You see how much 36 yr old Pau cost to get and LMA cost a sum too... and it's not just what they cost, it's the opportunity cost. Acquiring both required ditching contracts for guys, or not being able to resign guys who previously provided depth and produced. At this point Spurs are compelled to develop and rebuild that depth with urgency, and the problem of losing depth is only compounded by having Tony/Pau/Manu still as key contributors in the team and on the decline and/or soon to retire.

Spurs will have a huge talent loss and lack of support for Kawhi if they don't develop guys. To wish young players the team has spent resources developing is to wish the Spurs to fail quite simply, as the vets will continue to decline and only so much can be replenished in FA. In fact attempting to just replace the PG spot in the next couple of seasons and resigning guys will take all the team's budget. If anything Spur fan should root for these guys to grow up and pull through, but that is not what these trolls visit the site for, they don't root for the team but to spew their hate for certain guys and promote their favorite. I just got to put some guys on ignore myself. To each their own.

[BillMc]

One of the things that is a shtick for some guys who are really truly "the haters" vs fans who just comment and give opinions is precisely how strongly they wish players in the team fail.

I mean everyone has their opinion and favorites and that is fine. In fact it's inevitable bc not a single player is flawless.
To have opinions and favorites is one thing. But to actively wish that someone in the team fails is screwed up. If they don't come through, team loses. It's that simple. You see how much 36 yr old Pau cost to get and LMA cost a sum too... and it's not just what they cost, it's the opportunity cost. Acquiring both required ditching contracts for guys, or not being able to resign guys who previously provided depth and produced. At this point Spurs are compelled to develop and rebuild that depth with urgency, and the problem of losing depth is only compounded by having Tony/Pau/Manu still as key contributors in the team and on the decline and/or soon to retire.

Spurs will have a huge talent loss and lack of support for Kawhi if they don't develop guys. To wish young players the team has spent resources developing is to wish the Spurs to fail quite simply, as the vets will continue to decline and only so much can be replenished in FA. In fact attempting to just replace the PG spot in the next couple of seasons and resigning guys will take all the team's budget. If anything Spur fan should root for these guys to grow up and pull through, but that is not what these trolls visit the site for, they don't root for the team but to spew their hate for certain guys and promote their favorite. I just got to put some guys on ignore myself. To each their own.

I agree. 100% And you're right, you can't keep replacing young guys with FA's. That's a losing game (see "Nash" era Lakers). I'm rooting for everyone of our young guys to develop. Which means (as I counter my previous points about criticizing Pop) that Pop has to give them playing time even at the sacrifice of a few wins. As long as we keep ahead of LAC (the only threat to bump us out of #2 in the West)and ideally Cleveland (in case we were to meet in the Finals) I wouldn't mind some losses as long as the youth train rolls forward.

[Sean Cagney]

:toast

Taking that same logic, it's funny how many on this board think they know more about the Spurs than Pop, even though they've never seen a practice and he thousands.
Truth, but Pop does do some mind boggling shit sometimes like a mad scientist and rides it into the ground. Dude is a legend though, the only coach I want for this team tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

Ha ha!:toast Enjoy 'em. The shorts from the fist two seasons without dialogue are the best. A pure animated, visual dystopian experience.

I was toó young back then, beavis & butthead was all my mind could take, there was some Cartoon about a guy with a giant head and a monster living inside and aeon flux, we even had a live show here in argentina but the most disturbing thing to me was peter chung doing aeon flux and then rugrats, I was like WTF?

[SAGirl]

I agree. 100% And you're right, you can't keep replacing young guys with FA's. That's a losing game (see "Nash" era Lakers). I'm rooting for everyone of our young guys to develop. Which means (as I counter my previous points about criticizing Pop) that Pop has to give them playing time even at the sacrifice of a few wins. As long as we keep ahead of LAC (the only threat to bump us out of #2 in the West)and ideally Cleveland (in case we were to meet in the Finals) I wouldn't mind some losses as long as the youth train rolls forward.

:lobt2:Agreed. Its what some fans have advocated. I am sure guys have to meet certain standards to play: defensive first and not TO the ball, but they should get chances. Hopefully we witness some players "growing up". It's an exciting part of the new Spurs, to witness the development of young players, to see Kawhi continue to develop into a dominant star alongside new teammates now. TBH it lessens the blow a little from Tim loss /sniff and the Manu nostalgia, or Tony issues. I prefer to focus on enjoying the development of young players myself than on berating the old. I am actually super excited for the season bc I don't focus so much on Tony/Manu etc.

[SAGirl]

^ Sorry I brought up Tim.. still hurts.:depressed

[spurs10]

:toast

Taking that same logic, it's funny how many on this board think they know more about the Spurs than Pop, even though they've never seen a practice and he thousands. How much people in general take for granted is mind boggling. It's easier to criticize than to actually do something yourself. I've enjoyed what you've said in this thread about how long we've been in contention whether we won or not. This team and Pop will go down in sports history as 'the most winning team in all team sports for 15 years.' Tim and Pop put us that position- we are blessed. As for the development of young players, I hope we get a shot of youth this year. Anything can happen.
:flag:

[spurs10]

^ Sorry I brought up Tim.. still hurts.:depressed Yep...I heard that!

[BillMc]

I was toó young back then, beavis & butthead was all my mind could take, there was some Cartoon about a guy with a giant head and a monster living inside and aeon flux, we even had a live show here in argentina but the most disturbing thing to me was peter chung doing aeon flux and then rugrats, I was like WTF?

Yeah, it's hard to equate Rugrats and AF. :lol In Peter Chung's defense, I think he was only art director on Rugrats while AF was his story, characters, etc. Though I could be wrong.

I'm old enough to remember Aeon Flux well. I used to live in Miami and there was a club/rave place there that used to put the AF shorts (the ones without dialogue. which I think are better) up on a huge screen the size of a movie screen (in fact, the club used to be an old movie theater) and you could watch them while you drank, danced, etc. It was a cool backdrop to the music and as I said since the stories were designed to be follow-able without words, they were perfect. Nice mix of stylized animation action, sex and dystopian scifi. Gave the whole club a slightly cyberpunk feel.

Never saw the live action movie. Hear it should be avoided.

[SAGirl]

I think there is a real mob mentality on here, where every time we lose its because "someone screwed up" whether that's Pop, or a player, or RC (for not getting a real or hypothetical player that everyone wanted). I tend to look at it like poker where you play the probabilities over a long game. And Pop, RC and our players (which includes Tony Parker folks) have put us into a position to contend for a very long time. You can't win them all, all you can ask is to be in a position when you realistically could and then every individual season is a crap shoot. Over time, the team that is always contending will usually win more titles as we've seen this played out for us over the last two decades.

So I weigh "Pop didn't play player X when some guy or gal on a message board wanted him to" as a minor sin against the Spurs general success over the years.

For example because of my Latvian connection, I'll be pissed if Pop doesn't play Bertans this year. But I'm mature enough to realize that my anger and disappointment are likely because of my own biases not because Pop "is an idiot."

Good points here.. I missed all these b4 since you edited your post. For me one of the most interesting thing about the playoffs is matchups and coaching adjustments. It's the one "chess" aspect that is simply not there in the RS, and Pop is super smart. He does over rely on veterans that are washed up at this point though. I don't want to get into the berating here, not the point, but they are not what they used to be. He has to grow guys into roles. He will know better than anyone if guys were ready or not to step up, but he famously didn't give CoJo a chance in 2015 and Tony kept shooting blanks. Meanwhile in 2016 CoJo was bailing out Lowry and Derozen in games all the way up to the ECF. Sure a young CoJo is not the player young Tony was, and maybe Pop can't separate the fact that young Tony is not coming back. Just subjective things like that peeve me from time to time.

I enjoyed the discussions about strategies in the board during the playoffs, even though some I disagreed with, even guys like TD 21, who are strong in his opinions I enjoy reading. It's nice to read other fans perspectives personally (so long as they don't get into the hating territory, that is pointless).

Anyways, this past season I gave Pop a pass (I am sure you say Geezzz Whiz, SAGirl thank you!!! lol :lol) just bc Tim wasn't the same and he played guys he thought would help but they came up short. The team wasn't ready to move on with a declined Tim. Like you say, it wasn't our year. I am afraid for either Manu or Tony reaching that Tim 2016 stage. Previously there was CoJo to bail injured guys out.. now??? Fasttrack Dijon? Question mark. Some fans like sasaint have argued that. Who knows? For all our Garino discussion in that other thread with Kaji, it may turn out Arci makes the team after all (If he does, I would know why that is, not a knock on Garino, more a knock on Dijon needing to develop decision making and ballhandling).

I would not call Pop idiot ever. I admire the coach, but you will see me criticize his decisions from time to time through the season. I didn't like the Kmart signing. I think more than anything he panicked with the Danny season long shooting slump but he was a detrimental addition that distracted the team and prevented the bench from reaching a high level of play once Manu got back and gelling. Martin was so bad that he never really moved the needle away from Slow-Mo Anderson and Simmons would have been better too. If Pop wasn't going to bench Anderson and he came out in the press and said that he wasn't then what was the point? He needed to push the effing young fella out of his socks to fricking shoot the ball instead of getting Kmart in and putting the bench through a whole experiment 6 weeks b4 the postseason. Hindsight 20/20, I agree but it peeved me back then and there were others in the board that before the entire season unfolded knew that Kmart was going to waste the team's time.

I think you boy Bertans has a good chance this season too. Really excited for him, we shall see. :flag:

[BillMc]

Good points here.. I missed all these b4 since you edited your post. For me one of the most interesting thing about the playoffs is matchups and coaching adjustments. It's the one "chess" aspect that is simply not there in the RS, and Pop is super smart. He does over rely on veterans that are washed up at this point though. I don't want to get into the berating here, not the point, but they are not what they used to be. He has to grow guys into roles. He will know better than anyone if guys were ready or not to step up, but he famously didn't give CoJo a chance in 2015 and Tony kept shooting blanks. Meanwhile in 2016 CoJo was bailing out Lowry and Derozen in games all the way up to the ECF. Sure a young CoJo is not the player young Tony was, and maybe Pop can't separate the fact that young Tony is not coming back. Just subjective things like that peeve me from time to time.

I enjoyed the discussions about strategies in the board during the playoffs, even though some I disagreed with, even guys like TD 21, who are strong in his opinions I enjoy reading. It's nice to read other fans perspectives personally (so long as they don't get into the hating territory, that is pointless).

Anyways, this past season I gave Pop a pass (I am sure you say Geezzz Whiz, SAGirl thank you!!! lol :lol) just bc Tim wasn't the same and he played guys he thought would help but they came up short. The team wasn't ready to move on with a declined Tim. Like you say, it wasn't our year. I am afraid for either Manu or Tony reaching that Tim 2016 stage. Previously there was CoJo to bail injured guys out.. now??? Fasttrack Dijon? Question mark. Some fans like sasaint have argued that. Who knows? For all our Garino discussion in that other thread with Kaji, it may turn out Arci makes the team after all (If he does, I would know why that is, not a knock on Garino, more a knock on Dijon needing to develop decision making and ballhandling).

I would not call Pop idiot ever. I admire the coach, but you will see me criticize his decisions from time to time through the season. I didn't like the Kmart signing. I think more than anything he panicked with the Danny season long shooting slump but he was a detrimental addition that distracted the team and prevented the bench from reaching a high level of play once Manu got back and gelling. Martin was so bad that he never really moved the needle away from Slow-Mo Anderson and Simmons would have been better too. If Pop wasn't going to bench Anderson and he came out in the press and said that he wasn't then what was the point? He needed to push the effing young fella out of his socks to fricking shoot the ball instead of getting Kmart in and putting the bench through a whole experiment 6 weeks b4 the postseason. Hindsight 20/20, I agree but it peeved me back then and there were others in the board that before the entire season unfolded knew that Kmart was going to waste the team's time.

I think you boy Bertans has a good chance this season too. Really excited for him, we shall see. :flag:

Really nice post. :flag: I'll respond a little later. Got to get to to work.. Too much time on the ole Spurstalk. :lol

[BillMc]

^ Sorry I brought up Tim.. still hurts.:depressed
:cry

[Mikeanaro]

Yeah, it's hard to equate Rugrats and AF. :lol In Peter Chung's defense, I think he was only art director on Rugrats while AF was his story, characters, etc. Though I could be wrong.

I'm old enough to remember Aeon Flux well. I used to live in Miami and there was a club/rave place there that used to put the AF shorts (the ones without dialogue. which I think are better) up on a huge screen the size of a movie screen (in fact, the club used to be an old movie theater) and you could watch them while you drank, danced, etc. It was a cool backdrop to the music and as I said since the stories were designed to be follow-able without words, they were perfect. Nice mix of stylized animation action, sex and dystopian scifi. Gave the whole club a slightly cyberpunk feel.

Never saw the live action movie. Hear it should be avoided.

I think you are right about Chung´s role in Rugrats.

Also I wasnt aware that the first two seasons didnt contain any dialogue at all, I remember her and some blonde dude like using their tongues licking each other earlobes or some weird shit like that.
There was some nasty killings, a big fat dude if my mind doesnt fail me that she killed him like dancing really gory. I was mistaken the live series I was talking about was Cybersix that it is said James Cameron rip it off to make Dark Angel.

That club thing you say sounds awesome I dont know if today´s clubs can do that kind of stuff with current anime I mean they look so japi to my taste.

[SASdynasty!]

James had his 3rd and 4th best finals against Spurs in 13 and 14. Michael Finley held James to less points than Kawhi in 2007.:lol
But like they say, "forget the numbers."

[TheGreatYacht]

What does James know about basketball? Where does he get off saying who guards him best? We got some select posters right here who know more about it than James ever will.
Yeah those basketball greats, always have the best eye for talent :lol

Jordan maxed out Batum.
Kobe snubbing Duncan out of his Top 5 opponents over the likes of Durant and Drexler.
Isiah Thomas formed a Big 3 of Eddie Curry, Marbury, and Francis.

Now. Let's compare stats/facts.

2007 NBA Finals (vs Bruce Bowen)
22.0ppg, 7.0reb, 6.8apg, 5.7TO, 35.6FG%, 20.0 3P%, 42.8TS%

2011 NBA Finals (vs Shawn Marion)
17.8ppg, 7.2reb, 6.8apg, 4.0TO, 47.8FG%, 32.1 3P%, 54.1TS%

2013 NBA Finals (vs Kahwi Leonard)
25.3ppg, 10.8reb, 7.0apg, 2.5TO, 44.7FG%, 35.3 3P%, 52.9TS%

2014 NBA Finals (vs Kahwi Leonard)
28.2ppg, 7.8reb, 4.0apg, 3.8TO, 57.1FG%, 51.1 3P%, 67.9TS%

[tholdren]

who cares? Le douche has more rings and is a better player. Until KL gets the spurs rings for defending james the best it shouldn't matter to spurs fans.

[SupremeGuy]

I remember watching them on MTV, way back when on some weird cartoon variety show.
I think that's what it was...

Jesus, that was over 2 decades ago.Aeon Flux was over 2 decades ago?! HOLY FUCK! :lol

[SASdynasty!]

Yeah those basketball greats, always have the best eye for talent :lol

Jordan maxed out Batum.
Kobe snubbing Duncan out of his Top 5 opponents over the likes of Durant and Drexler.
Isiah Thomas formed a Big 3 of Eddie Curry, Marbury, and Francis.

Now. Let's compare stats/facts.

2007 NBA Finals (vs Bruce Bowen)
22.0ppg, 7.0reb, 6.8apg, 5.7TO, 35.6FG%, 20.0 3P%, 42.8TS%

2011 NBA Finals (vs Shawn Marion)
17.8ppg, 7.2reb, 6.8apg, 4.0TO, 47.8FG%, 32.1 3P%, 54.1TS%

2013 NBA Finals (vs Kahwi Leonard)
25.3ppg, 10.8reb, 7.0apg, 2.5TO, 44.7FG%, 35.3 3P%, 52.9TS%

2014 NBA Finals (vs Kahwi Leonard)
28.2ppg, 7.8reb, 4.0apg, 3.8TO, 57.1FG%, 51.1 3P%, 67.9TS%
N-n-n-n-narrative buster

[HarlemHeat37]

Nice compliment from the greatest of all-time, tbh..

[apalisoc_9]

Lebron has got to be the most appreciative competitor out all the time great of all time....

I imagine Kobestans are treating this as an act of weakness and admittence of defeat...freaking casuals.

[BillMc]

Aeon Flux was over 2 decades ago?! HOLY FUCK! :lol

Yep. Feeling old? I am. :lol


I think you are right about Chung´s role in Rugrats.

Also I wasnt aware that the first two seasons didnt contain any dialogue at all, I remember her and some blonde dude like using their tongues licking each other earlobes or some weird shit like that.
There was some nasty killings, a big fat dude if my mind doesnt fail me that she killed him like dancing really gory. I was mistaken the live series I was talking about was Cybersix that it is said James Cameron rip it off to make Dark Angel.

That club thing you say sounds awesome I dont know if today´s clubs can do that kind of stuff with current anime I mean they look so japi to my taste.

Yeah, the blond dude was Trevor Goodchild the dictator of the neighboring country she's always spying on/assassinating people in. They've a weird relationship to say the least. :lol I remember her killing the fat guy you mentioned.

Here are a few typical ones from the first two seasons. It's cool because its wordless and you have to figure out the plot. And they're short enough that you don't mind doing so.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0gXXZzKQ8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_8sNEPQ-NY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRw31J2Dg8

My sig is another.

I agree about anime looking all the same. That's why I liked AF so much. Chung is Korean-American and his dad was a low-level diplomat, so he grew up all over the world: America, Asia, Africa. His work has a lot of different influences and looks like nothing else.

Never saw Cybersix or Dark Angel...should I?

[Mikeanaro]

Yep. Feeling old? I am. :lol



Yeah, the blond dude was Trevor Goodchild the dictator of the neighboring country she's always spying on/assassinating people in. They've a weird relationship to say the least. :lol I remember her killing the fat guy you mentioned.

Here are a few typical ones from the first two seasons. It's cool because its wordless and you have to figure out the plot. And they're short enough that you don't mind doing so.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0gXXZzKQ8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_8sNEPQ-NY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRw31J2Dg8

My sig is another.

I agree about anime looking all the same. That's why I liked AF so much. Chung is Korean-American and his dad was a low-level diplomat, so he grew up all over the world: America, Asia, Africa. His work has a lot of different influences and looks like nothing else.

Never saw Cybersix or Dark Angel...should I?

Today I watched the 2 first seasons without dialogues and it was truly innovative, now Im into season 3 and even when I´ve only watched the first episode it fits with the overall series style.

I couldnt say anything about Cibersix or Dark Angel because never watched them, but Dark Angel was one of the first series made with big budgets that had movie like quality, now you have big budget series everywhere but during those days Dark Angel was the pioneer, as far as quality I remember it was good according to some friends, so it could deserve a try.

[BillMc]

Aeon Flux was over 2 decades ago?! HOLY FUCK! :lol


Today I watched the 2 first seasons without dialogues and it was truly innovative, now Im into season 3 and even when I´ve only watched the first episode it fits with the overall series style.

I couldnt say anything about Cibersix or Dark Angel because never watched them, but Dark Angel was one of the first series made with big budgets that had movie like quality, now you have big budget series everywhere but during those days Dark Angel was the pioneer, as far as quality I remember it was good according to some friends, so it could deserve a try.

Thanks man. I'll look into Dark Angel. Enjoy Season 3.:toast

[tholdren]

Lebron has got to be the most appreciative competitor out all the time great of all time....

I imagine Kobestans are treating this as an act of weakness and admittence of defeat...freaking casuals.
Lebron is anti-competitor.

[spurs50_]

Lebron didn't have to admit this, the urine stain that appears on his shorts when he sees Leonard gives it away.

[DarrinS]

I see the usual suspects are still polluting this forum. Smh

[SsKSpurs21]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

[Kidd K]

James had his 3rd and 4th best finals against Spurs in 13 and 14. Michael Finley held James to less points than Kawhi in 2007.:lol

Your name must be a lie if you don't remember that Bowen was his main defender the vast majority of the time. Bowen is why LeBron played so awful, not Finley. Not even close man.