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AlexJones
08-19-2016, 04:54 PM
I'll start with an easy one

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSihcyqOpMqfiTjuJknRB1tqN4Eh7fIa DTFOVHiYccC59nYF3O6

SpursforSix
08-19-2016, 05:17 PM
Far and Away

I. Hustle
08-19-2016, 05:26 PM
Debbie Does Dallas

Blake
08-19-2016, 05:31 PM
The Shining

lefty20
08-19-2016, 05:41 PM
Star Wars Original Trilogy. The quality of acting in most of the scenes is straight up cringe worthy, tbh.

DeadlyDynasty
08-19-2016, 07:39 PM
Scarface

baseline bum
08-19-2016, 07:41 PM
I always found ET to be unwatchable

benefactor
08-19-2016, 07:52 PM
Top Gun

Chris
08-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Scarface

I agree tbh though I've only seen it once when I was much younger. I need to give it a second try to confirm it's shittiness.

SpursforSix
08-19-2016, 08:04 PM
I agree tbh though I've only seen it once when I was much younger. I need to give it a second try to confirm it's shittiness.

I liked it. Of course I saw it when I was 13 so it was bad ass. Great score to it.

Boogie Munster
08-19-2016, 08:18 PM
I liked it. Of course I saw it when I was 13 so it was bad ass. Great score to it.

San Antonio worships that movie like it's Casablanca or Citizen Kane, tbh.

Thread
08-19-2016, 08:56 PM
I'll start with an easy one

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSihcyqOpMqfiTjuJknRB1tqN4Eh7fIa DTFOVHiYccC59nYF3O6


Far and Away


The Shining


Star Wars Original Trilogy. The quality of acting in most of the scenes is straight up cringe worthy, tbh.


I always found ET to be unwatchable

I'm in accordance.

Thread
08-19-2016, 08:57 PM
The Maltese Falcon

The African Queen

Hoosiers

baseline bum
08-19-2016, 09:16 PM
Forrest Gump is awful, I can't believe it beat Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption for best picture. Then Stalingrad has to be the most overrated war movie ever.

baseline bum
08-19-2016, 09:17 PM
Scarface

I like it, it's massively stupid but Pacino's horrible accent cracks me up. I like it way better than the Paul Muni original.

leemajors
08-19-2016, 09:23 PM
Fight Club

SpursforSix
08-19-2016, 09:43 PM
Olympus has Fallen

Spurminator
08-19-2016, 09:50 PM
The new Mad Max

Thread
08-19-2016, 10:06 PM
The new Mad Max


Forrest Gump is awful


Fight Club

I'm in accordance.

pgardn
08-19-2016, 10:13 PM
Sound Of Music

Although I will bellow the songs in the shower.

Chris
08-19-2016, 10:26 PM
Fight Club

https://s15-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fi3.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F147%2 F931%2FRAGE.gif&sp=527b47a5b1ddd55534fd3eff6aacd0b7

Chris
08-19-2016, 10:28 PM
Animal House

Chris
08-19-2016, 10:28 PM
The Davinci Code

Reck
08-19-2016, 10:51 PM
Any Harry Potter movies.

Thread
08-19-2016, 11:03 PM
Sound Of Music


Animal House


The Davinci Code


Any Harry Potter movies.

I'm in accordance.

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The Pride Of The Yankees

High Noon

M*A*S*H*

HI-FI
08-19-2016, 11:17 PM
Scarface
Damn, and you're the biggest DePalma fan on here. I like it a lot for its look and tone, but it could be shorter.

Probably the one I agree the most with is Forrest Gump, I never understood how that became a classic.

Olympus has Fallen
:lol

Avante
08-20-2016, 01:25 AM
There are no movies that are universally considered great that are terrible.

Citizen Kane has been called the greatest movie ever, as we know it's not. But it is a good movie and hardly terrible. The only terrible movies are the terrible movies.

I can't think of any great movie (seen um all) that was actually terrible. All those Japanese/Chinese martial arts movies are terrible. All those Italian strong man movies are terrible.

This was terrible.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK-2_OsBe0s

The thing is there really aren't all that many great movies.

The Godfather
On The Waterfront
The Searchers
Gone With The Wnd
King Kong (1933)
Casablanca
Lawrence of Arabia
City For Conquest
Streetcar Named Desire
The Theif of Baghdad (silent)

And a handful of others is about it.

timtonymanu
08-20-2016, 02:15 AM
The Matrix
Gladiator

Aztecfan03
08-20-2016, 02:17 AM
.

Shut your fat ass, Rayvie! I can't go to a bar in Vietnam without runnin' into nine girls you raped!

Avante
08-20-2016, 02:21 AM
Shut your fat ass, Rayvie! I can't go to a bar in Vietnam without runnin' into nine girls you raped!

Well lets see.

I never pulled any liberty in Viet Nam. And if I was over there in the early 70's, hmmmm? Do you think at all ya dumb fuck?

Dude, nine year old kids hustling drinks, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aztecfan03
08-20-2016, 02:24 AM
Well lets see.

I never pulled any liberty in Viet Nam. And if I was over there in the early 70's, hmmmm? Do you think at all ya dumb fuck?

Dude, nine year old kids hustling drinks, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never said they were 9. what a fucking sicko.

Xevious
08-20-2016, 02:35 AM
The new Mad Max
Yes. I even watched it a second time wondering if I had missed something with all the praise it had received. Nope, didn't miss anything... just not for me I guess.

Xevious
08-20-2016, 02:37 AM
I'll add another one though:

The Bridge on the River Kwai

I tried to like it, it's certainly well made and stands up over time. Unfortunately it's boring.

Avante
08-20-2016, 02:48 AM
I never said they were 9. what a fucking sicko.

My bad, so they are 70 year olds who out of those 10,000 guys they fucked, they remember Avante, hahahaa~~~~~~~

Thread
08-20-2016, 03:11 AM
I'll add another one though:

The Bridge on the River Kwai

I tried to like it, it's certainly well made and stands up over time. Unfortunately it's boring.

No. You're wrong.

cd021
08-20-2016, 04:09 AM
The Goonies
Fucking hate that movie...

Texas_Ranger
08-20-2016, 04:17 AM
Interstellar

Bender
08-20-2016, 06:14 AM
Debbie Does Dallas
yep, that one really sucked...

Bender
08-20-2016, 06:18 AM
I'll start with an easy one

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSihcyqOpMqfiTjuJknRB1tqN4Eh7fIa DTFOVHiYccC59nYF3O6

after hearing alll my life it's the greatest movie ever, I finally watched about 5 years ago... big letdown...

JoeTait75
08-20-2016, 07:18 AM
Being John Malkovich

Pulp Fiction (it isn't terrible but it is massively overrated, imo)

Lost in Translation

Silver&Black
08-20-2016, 08:04 AM
Forrest Gump is awful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cugsup-Ylzg

DarrinS
08-20-2016, 09:43 AM
The English Patient

Thread
08-20-2016, 10:39 AM
Being John Malkovich

Pulp Fiction (it isn't terrible but it is massively overrated, imo)

Lost in Translation

Heartily agree.

DJR210
08-20-2016, 10:53 AM
I love Napolean Dynamite, but that shit is terrible

Thread
08-20-2016, 11:14 AM
after hearing alll my life it's the greatest movie ever, I finally watched about 5 years ago... big letdown...

Yep, and I've even went back a couple times to confirm it. & Welles "The Magnificent Ambersons." Both are insufferable. Welles was juiced in for some damn reason.

pgardn
08-20-2016, 12:05 PM
I love Napolean Dynamite, but that shit is terrible

I loved this one too. But I don't think it's on any top lists.

The music in that movie and the situations presented were outstanding. The rather bizarre slapstick was wonderful. That's one I continually go back to for specific scenes. The look of perplexed boredom on Napolean's face was fantastic. The characters were terrific. It's a good flick for those of us who appreciate kids at that age surrounded by boredom. And the interaction with quirky adults was solid humor. The naivety of all associated with the machine Uncle Rico ordered by mail...

Blake
08-20-2016, 12:17 PM
Animal House

Aw hell no.

Animal House is pure genius start to finish that holds up well almost 50 years later.

Thread
08-20-2016, 12:22 PM
Aw hell no.

Animal House is pure genius start to finish that holds up well almost 50 years later.

I agree it doesn't belong in this thread, but, their is something wrong with Animal House.

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 12:26 PM
I love Napolean Dynamite, but that shit is terrible

Naporneon Dynamite on the other hand is excellent

Blake
08-20-2016, 12:26 PM
I agree it doesn't belong in this thread, but, their is something wrong with Animal House.

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I don't recall anything wrong

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 12:29 PM
The English Patient

I liked this better tbh

http://www.mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/nextmovie/2013/08/Sack-Lunch.jpg

DarrinS
08-20-2016, 12:58 PM
^ :lmao

Proxy
08-20-2016, 01:07 PM
Citizen Cane, Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, The Shining listed.... lol


Interstellar, Donnie Darko, 13 Assassins, Dark Knight Rises, Deadpool, Skyfall, Boondock Saints, Looper

Blake
08-20-2016, 02:12 PM
I liked this better tbh

http://www.mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/nextmovie/2013/08/Sack-Lunch.jpg

Lol






https://media.dayoftheshirt.com/images/shirts/ZgiCo/snorg_rochelle-rochelle_1471299056.full.png

From Milan to Minsk

Thread
08-20-2016, 02:54 PM
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I don't recall anything wrong

By wrong I mean it is not the end all & be all that it is proposed as such. Its weak in spots and putters in spots. It looks hurried at times. It's serviceable and new at that moment, but, it's not "genius" Blake.

Thread
08-20-2016, 02:56 PM
Looper

Lord-a-mighty, yes.

Darth_Pelican
08-20-2016, 03:37 PM
The correct answer is Crash. It was the worst movie I've ever seen and the fact that it won the Best Picture Oscar is an absolute pathetic, laughable joke.

Thread
08-20-2016, 03:42 PM
The correct answer is Crash. It was the worst movie I've ever seen and the fact that it won the Best Picture Oscar is an absolute pathetic, laughable joke.

Lord-a-mighty, yes.

SpursforSix
08-20-2016, 03:47 PM
The correct answer is Crash. It was the worst movie I've ever seen and the fact that it won the Best Picture Oscar is an absolute pathetic, laughable joke.

Hmmmm.../thread worthy

DeadlyDynasty
08-20-2016, 03:49 PM
Damn, and you're the biggest DePalma fan on here. I like it a lot for its look and tone, but it could be shorter.

Probably the one I agree the most with is Forrest Gump, I never understood how that became a classic.

:lol

The run-time isn't why it's bad imo. I personally love the film--it glorifies in excess and violence (like most BDP films) and has a great 80's soundtrack/score, but watching Al Pacino, F. Murray Abraham, and Robert Loggia try to sound like Cubans is hilariously awful.

DAF86
08-20-2016, 05:03 PM
I like it, it's massively stupid but Pacino's horrible accent cracks me up. I like it way better than the Paul Muni original.

On a related note: Is Pacino the most overrated actor of all time?

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 05:09 PM
On a related note: Is Pacino the most overrated actor of all time?

I think so. Brando and James Caan really made the first Godfather work and the second was all DeNiro's brilliance. I hated any time it went back to Pacino in 2.

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 05:11 PM
The correct answer is Crash. It was the worst movie I've ever seen and the fact that it won the Best Picture Oscar is an absolute pathetic, laughable joke.

I thought everyone hated that movie. :lol

Everyone is racist as fuck in that movie, it's like they just cast the NBA forum in it.

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 05:13 PM
Speaking of terrible oscar winning movies, fuck The Hurt Locker.

Thread
08-20-2016, 05:17 PM
Speaking of terrible oscar winning movies, fuck The Hurt Locker.

I heartily concur.

Thread
08-20-2016, 05:24 PM
The run-time isn't why it's bad imo. I personally love the film--it glorifies in excess and violence (like most BDP films) and has a great 80's soundtrack/score, but watching Al Pacino, F. Murray Abraham, and Robert Loggia try to sound like Cubans is hilariously awful.

+ the use of actual footage (boat lift) in the beginning helps this film immensely. Gives it a super shot of immediacy, a dose of quality there.

His mother's character is a fine actor and she bridges the film from Cuba to the States. It's difficult to forget her. His sister, yes, but, not mother. Perhaps not since Bogart's mother in "Dead End" have we seen such recognition of son.

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 05:25 PM
I heartily concur.

The scene he went Bergdahl really made me hate the character.

Spurminator
08-20-2016, 05:32 PM
The correct answer is Crash. It was the worst movie I've ever seen and the fact that it won the Best Picture Oscar is an absolute pathetic, laughable joke.

That would have been the first one I mentioned but I don't know anyone who thinks that's a good movie anymore.

rmt
08-20-2016, 06:02 PM
You guys are such movie snobs.

Forrest Gump - funny/shows what perseverance can do and so many cultural references.
Harry Potter - the 7th movie was bad, but my family loves the whole series (especially the enchantment and wonder of Hogwarts in the 1st).
Sound of Music - a classic - so many great songs - pity she had that operation on her throat
Top Gun - great fight scene at end
Star Wars trilogy - ahead of its time - nothing like it (well, except TV's Star Trek) - saw Empire Strikes Back (which didn't explain the Force) before Star Wars - didn't care for the 3rd - got too cutesy with the Ewoks
Matrix - lol- had to have my husband explain it to me when I watched it the first time

My favorites:
50 First Dates
Con Air
Aliens 2
Terminator 2
Pride and Prejudice (6 hr A&E version)

HarlemHeat37
08-20-2016, 06:05 PM
Off the top of the dome, no order:

-All the Taken movies..atrocious, yet somehow they have a cult following:lol
- Scarface..terrible movie that got inflated by rappers, etc
- The Revenant..very average movie IMO..
- Virtually all Adam Sandler movies..White people are appalled when you insult Adam Sandler, similar to speaking ill of Larry Bird or Peyton Manning, but he makes some of the shittiest movies I've ever seen:lol
- Straight Outta Compton..so corny..

baseline bum
08-20-2016, 06:19 PM
Forrest Gump - funny/shows what perseverance can do

Perserverance is all it takes to make a cripple retard who licks the window into an All-American running back war hero billionaire?

djohn2oo8
08-20-2016, 06:21 PM
On a related note: Is Pacino the most overrated actor of all time?
nope

Chris
08-20-2016, 06:27 PM
The Piano (so boring...)

Thread
08-20-2016, 07:10 PM
all Adam Sandler movies

Bless you, Har. I won't do one. No way.

BD24
08-20-2016, 07:22 PM
Olympus has Fallen
Who considers that shit great bro? lol

BD24
08-20-2016, 07:26 PM
Off the top of the dome, no order:

-All the Taken movies..atrocious, yet somehow they have a cult following:lol
- Scarface..terrible movie that got inflated by rappers, etc
- The Revenant..very average movie IMO..
- Virtually all Adam Sandler movies..White people are appalled when you insult Adam Sandler, similar to speaking ill of Larry Bird or Peyton Manning, but he makes some of the shittiest movies I've ever seen:lol
- Straight Outta Compton..so corny..
No surprised your racist ass had to bring race into this. White people think his movies are shitty as well, his movies definitely aren't considered universally great among whites you racist piece of shit

StrengthAndHonor
08-20-2016, 07:34 PM
The Slumdog Millionaire- Another boy meets girl piece of trash and the location.....8 Academy Awards? Just ugh!

Back to the Future- I just never understood the need for sequels and prequels. To think this is one of the biggest movies back in the day. Yuck.

Twilight- taking every cliche and wrapping it up into one big stupid vampire-romance movie.

Titanic- He hustled, she's a gold digging whore, they met, the boat sank, he died, she died.

Avatar- Paraplegic meets Pocahontas in space..OooooHhhh....Give me a break.

Space Jam- Cringe worthy.

HarlemHeat37
08-20-2016, 07:40 PM
Titanic is dope, tbh..I still laugh my fucking ass off during the end of that movie, when it's sinking and all these niggas are falling off and breaking their bodies:lmao

Thread
08-20-2016, 07:41 PM
The Slumdog Millionaire- Another boy meets girl piece of trash and the location.....8 Academy Awards? Just ugh!

Back to the Future- I just never understood the need for sequels and prequels. To think this is one of the biggest movies back in the day. Yuck.

Twilight- taking every cliche and wrapping it up into one big stupid vampire-romance movie.

Titanic- He hustled, she's a gold digging whore, they met, the boat sank, he died, she died.

Avatar- Paraplegic meets Pocahontas in space..OooooHhhh....Give me a break.

Space Jam- Cringe worthy.

But, Billy Zane is terrific there.

{EE} is accurate.

What movie is {EE} from?

Splits
08-20-2016, 07:56 PM
Gravity.

Worst movie I ever saw in a theater.

StrengthAndHonor
08-20-2016, 08:22 PM
But, Billy Zane is terrific there.

{EE} is accurate.

What movie is {EE} from?

Okay. That I agree. He's the best part of the film.

timtonymanu
08-20-2016, 08:51 PM
Yeah Avatar was another movie I really didn't care for yet people around me hyped it up like it was the greatest thing

DAF86
08-20-2016, 08:56 PM
nope

Why not son? Elaborate on your opinion pliz.

pgardn
08-20-2016, 09:04 PM
I heartily concur.

Maybe not for the Oscar.

But don't f it.

SpursforSix
08-20-2016, 09:46 PM
Who considers that shit great bro? lol

Maybe I'm thinking of White House Down.

-21-
08-20-2016, 10:32 PM
Gravity.

Worst movie I ever saw in a theater.
+1000000

I mean I get the praise for the special effects and all that but the actual film was so boring. There wasn't a point in the movie in which I felt remotely interested.

leemajors
08-20-2016, 10:38 PM
Every Guy Ritchie movie

rmt
08-21-2016, 12:17 AM
Agree with Titanic and Avatar.

Down Under
08-21-2016, 05:40 AM
Donnie Darko sucks. Adam Sandler's not funny at all. Avatar was terrible, virtually a rip off of Fern Gully, a kids movie.

200 miles
08-21-2016, 11:14 AM
Every movie in history has been shitty except for Deuce Biaglow.

cd021
08-21-2016, 11:59 AM
Off the top of the dome, no order:

-All the Taken movies..atrocious, yet somehow they have a cult following:lol
- Scarface..terrible movie that got inflated by rappers, etc
- The Revenant..very average movie IMO..
- Virtually all Adam Sandler movies..White people are appalled when you insult Adam Sandler, similar to speaking ill of Larry Bird or Peyton Manning, but he makes some of the shittiest movies I've ever seen:lol
- Straight Outta Compton..so corny..

-Thought the Revenant was great, maybe a bit too long but great.
-Totally agree about Adam Sandler and Kevin James for that matter just trash.
-Straight Out Of Compton started poorly but after Detroit scene the movie got good and the acting improved significantly. Think its a case of low expectations and better than expected movie.

cd021
08-21-2016, 12:01 PM
But, Billy Zane is terrific there.

{EE} is accurate.

What movie is {EE} from?

I hated space jam and thought it was horse shit when I first watched it when I was a kid, people still cape up for that shit.

cd021
08-21-2016, 12:05 PM
I loved this one too. But I don't think it's on any top lists.

The music in that movie and the situations presented were outstanding. The rather bizarre slapstick was wonderful. That's one I continually go back to for specific scenes. The look of perplexed boredom on Napolean's face was fantastic. The characters were terrific. It's a good flick for those of us who appreciate kids at that age surrounded by boredom. And the interaction with quirky adults was solid humor. The naivety of all associated with the machine Uncle Rico ordered by mail...

Cried laughing when I first saw it with my brother after it came out, actually watched a month a go. Not as funny but still pretty damn hilarious. Uncle Rico, Napoleon, and Kip are all great characters. Everyone went to school with someone weird like that dude.

gambit1990
08-21-2016, 12:15 PM
the last movie i saw the insider, i thought it was boring af tbh.

Blake
08-21-2016, 01:18 PM
By wrong I mean it is not the end all & be all that it is proposed as such. Its weak in spots and putters in spots. It looks hurried at times. It's serviceable and new at that moment, but, it's not "genius" Blake.

K, gonna have to disagree on it's genius

Thread
08-21-2016, 01:57 PM
Seeing all this shit congregated into one thread is sobering, by God.

Though at least now I realize I've not been alone.

Like "Crash"---I thought I was missing something. Like it was me. Sat there like a fool 3 damn times.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 03:10 PM
So I've never seen The Big Lebowsky. After all the build up, Im scared to watch it.

DeadlyDynasty
08-21-2016, 03:27 PM
Al Pacino being listed here is a sign of viewer fatigue...he's not the mythical guinea goomba Hollywood makes him out to be, but he's made some damn good films. Sure, most (if not all) of his characters involve him going batshit crazy at one point or another with his eyes popping out of his head, but it's altogether entertaining. Everybody's in love with Godfather II (especially De Niro's part), but after re-watching TG1&2 last month I've come to appreciate Michael Corleone's character more and more. It's one of the few roles where he is emotionless, but it's just that quality that creates one of the most ruthless and frightening characters ever portrayed on film. To me, it's still why The Godfather is the best of the trilogy--for Michael's 3+ hour metamorphosis from Walter White into Heisenberg. I implore people to review those two films. The second one--also obviously brilliant--just drives home the subtlety of his viciousness. People rave about the Cuban revolution scene where AP says "I know it was you Fredo, you broke my heart:cry"...but no scene is more heartbreaking or diabolical than when he hugs his brother at their mom's funeral, then looks Al Neri in the eye. That shit still gives me the feels tbh.

Needless to say, I'm an unapologetic Pacino fan--be it Panic in Needle Park, Serpico, And Justice for All, Glengarry Glen Ross, Heat, etc...it's all what I want from it: entertainment

Thread
08-21-2016, 03:34 PM
Al Pacino being listed here is a sign of viewer fatigue...he's not the mythical guinea goomba Hollywood makes him out to be, but he's made some damn good films. Sure, most (if not all) of his characters involve him going batshit crazy at one point or another with his eyes popping out of his head, but it's altogether entertaining. Everybody's in love with Godfather II (especially De Niro's part), but after re-watching TG1&2 last month I've come to appreciate Michael Corleone's character more and more. It's one of the few roles where he is emotionless, but it's just that quality that creates one of the most ruthless and frightening characters ever portrayed on film. To me, it's still why The Godfather is the best of the trilogy--for Michael's 3+ hour metamorphosis from Walter White into Heisenberg. I implore people to review those two films. The second one--also obviously brilliant--just drives home the subtlety of his viciousness. People rave about the Cuban revolution scene where AP says "I know it was you Fredo, you broke my heart:cry"...but no scene is more heartbreaking or diabolical than when he hugs his brother at their mom's funeral, then looks Al Neri in the eye. That shit still gives me the feels tbh.

Needless to say, I'm an unapologetic Pacino fan--be it Panic in Needle Park, Serpico, And Justice for All, Glengarry Glen Ross, Heat, etc...it's all what I want from it: entertainment

He also had a nice turn in "Scarecrow" with Gene Hackman, '73. It kind of had a cult following at the time, but, has petered out in the 40+ years since. Has a disturbing bent to it, a sad overcast. Richard Lynch, a fine actor provides the obvious evil, but, there is something else.

Thebesteva
08-21-2016, 03:53 PM
Fight Club

LOL go fuck yourself

Chris
08-21-2016, 03:59 PM
Say what you want about Sandler, but Happy Gilmore is a masterpiece. Waterboy was throughly entertaining as well imo. His work has been the shits the last 2 decades though.

Chris
08-21-2016, 04:01 PM
So I've never seen The Big Lebowsky. After all the build up, Im scared to watch it.

I've never met someone who didn't like this movie. Arguably Goodmans finest work.

DAF86
08-21-2016, 05:29 PM
Al Pacino being listed here is a sign of viewer fatigue...he's not the mythical guinea goomba Hollywood makes him out to be, but he's made some damn good films. Sure, most (if not all) of his characters involve him going batshit crazy at one point or another with his eyes popping out of his head, but it's altogether entertaining. Everybody's in love with Godfather II (especially De Niro's part), but after re-watching TG1&2 last month I've come to appreciate Michael Corleone's character more and more. It's one of the few roles where he is emotionless, but it's just that quality that creates one of the most ruthless and frightening characters ever portrayed on film. To me, it's still why The Godfather is the best of the trilogy--for Michael's 3+ hour metamorphosis from Walter White into Heisenberg. I implore people to review those two films. The second one--also obviously brilliant--just drives home the subtlety of his viciousness. People rave about the Cuban revolution scene where AP says "I know it was you Fredo, you broke my heart:cry"...but no scene is more heartbreaking or diabolical than when he hugs his brother at their mom's funeral, then looks Al Neri in the eye. That shit still gives me the feels tbh.

Needless to say, I'm an unapologetic Pacino fan--be it Panic in Needle Park, Serpico, And Justice for All, Glengarry Glen Ross, Heat, etc...it's all what I want from it: entertainment

I agree, Pacino is good. When I say he's overrated I mean that he's the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd name that comes to everyone's mind when thinking about "the greatest actor (of all-time even)", and to me he doesn't deserve to be that high. I've seen way too many cringe worthy performances from him.

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 05:48 PM
Say what you want about Sandler, but Happy Gilmore is a masterpiece. Waterboy was throughly entertaining as well imo. His work has been the shits the last 2 decades though.

I don't understand why his movies got brought up as universally liked. Happy Gilmore and Waterboy were both really good, and I'd classify Big Daddy as decent, but beyond that it's a pretty common opinion his movies suck and that his good movie : bad movie ratio is abysmal.

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 05:49 PM
Olympus has Fallen


The Davinci Code

:lol when were these considered universally liked? Everyone I know considers the Da Vinci Code a shit bomb movie remake of a book.

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 05:55 PM
"Warriors" is the movie I'd add to the list. I don't understand how this one is considered a classic. The movie is basically a drawn out skit that you'd expect from a group of high school students entering a film competition. The acting is horrible and cheesy, it's almost like the movie is considered a classic as a joke.

Clockwork Orange is another one. Outside of having an extremely weird and bizarre plot line, what the fuck is so special about that movie?

Silver&Black
08-21-2016, 06:33 PM
I've never met someone who didn't like this movie. Arguably Goodmans finest work.

"Donny, you're out of your element."

"This is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."

Thread
08-21-2016, 06:58 PM
"Warriors" is the movie I'd add to the list. I don't understand how this one is considered a classic. The movie is basically a drawn out skit that you'd expect from a group of high school students entering a film competition. The acting is horrible and cheesy, it's almost like the movie is considered a classic as a joke.

Clockwork Orange is another one. Outside of having an extremely weird and bizarre plot line, what the fuck is so special about that movie?

It has not aged well. [At the time] it was big shit. The actual violence is cartoonish which does not travel well.

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I agree on Clockwork. I've never understood the acclaim.

HI-FI
08-21-2016, 07:18 PM
Good Will Hunting. The movie popped into my head even before seeing DoKs posts. I saw it when it came out and still think it's such an obnoxious and overrated film. Affleck has one of the most punchable faces in cinematic history, and he co-wrote this crap.


"Warriors" is the movie I'd add to the list. I don't understand how this one is considered a classic. The movie is basically a drawn out skit that you'd expect from a group of high school students entering a film competition. The acting is horrible and cheesy, it's almost like the movie is considered a classic as a joke.

Clockwork Orange is another one. Outside of having an extremely weird and bizarre plot line, what the fuck is so special about that movie?
I could watch Warriors anytime, Walter Hill is the shit. Originally he wanted to make it realistic but with all black and Latino actors since that's what the gang scene was like. When the studio wanted a mixed cast, he didn't think it was realistic but could work more as a comic book retelling of Greek myth.
I don't like Clockwork as much but it's a great satire of an amoral, big brother society imo.

Thread
08-21-2016, 07:27 PM
Good Will Hunting. The movie popped into my head even before seeing DoKs posts. I saw it when it came out and still think it's such an obnoxious and overrated film. Affleck has one of the most punchable faces in cinematic history, and he co-wrote this crap.

Yes, cept the scene where Affleck finds his friend gone,,,for good. No tears, just a sheen upon his eyes.

HI-FI
08-21-2016, 07:34 PM
Yes, cept the scene where Affleck finds his friend gone,,,for good. No tears, just a sheen upon his eyes.
Only seen it twice so I barely remember. Tried to give it another chance but I really hate Oscar bait films like this. Fwiw Robin Williams, ****** Smith's music and the cinematography are all very commendable. It's the rest I don't like.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 08:03 PM
:lol when were these considered universally liked? Everyone I know considers the Da Vinci Code a shit bomb movie remake of a book.

I already said I might have been thinking of Whitehouse Down.

Thread
08-21-2016, 08:07 PM
Only seen it twice so I barely remember. Tried to give it another chance but I really hate Oscar bait films like this. Fwiw Robin Williams, ****** Smith's music and the cinematography are all very commendable. It's the rest I don't like.

I only care for it because of course the "apples" scene & the aforementioned Affleck scene.

I've always found Williams insufferable. I wanted to kill during & after "Patch Adams."

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 08:15 PM
It has not aged well. [At the time] it was big shit. The actual violence is cartoonish which does not travel well.

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I agree on Clockwork. I've never understood the acclaim.

Exactly. I was waiting for the words "POW!" and "BAM!" to start popping up every time someone threw an overly-choreographed punch.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 08:17 PM
I only care for it because of course the "apples" scene & the aforementioned Affleck scene.

I've always found Williams insufferable. I wanted to kill during & after "Patch Adams."

I think he had his moments. I thought he did well in the handful of movies that he played a dark character. I guess the movies were forgettable as I can't recall the names. One Hour Photo. That's one.

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 08:19 PM
I don't like Clockwork as much but it's a great satire of an amoral, big brother society imo.

:lmao right, nothing says big brother society like a gang of high school age kids being able to do whatever they want at any hour of the night and commit multiples counts of robbery and rape before having police involvement.

Will Hunting
08-21-2016, 08:20 PM
I already said I might have been thinking of Whitehouse Down.

Even that one is just regardless as an average to above average action film, imo.

Thread
08-21-2016, 08:37 PM
I think he had his moments. I thought he did well in the handful of movies that he played a dark character. I guess the movies were forgettable as I can't recall the names. One Hour Photo. That's one.

The problem with "Photo" is nobody gets killed. It's anti-climatic.
The best thing is Gary Cole's part. That's great shit.

Thread
08-21-2016, 08:40 PM
Exactly. I was waiting for the words "POW!" and "BAM!" to start popping up every time someone threw an overly-choreographed punch.

Yep. But, at the moment it was great stuff. People were getting killed over it in NYC. I must have went 7 times to view it.

It's painful now to witness. Just one cringe after another.

Thread
08-21-2016, 08:47 PM
:lmao right, nothing says big brother society like a gang of high school age kids being able to do whatever they want at any hour of the night and commit multiples counts of robbery and rape before having police involvement.

What's his face was juiced in. He could do no wrong. And it was a time when nudity was forbidden to us. Even then I didn't fall for it and sneak thru.

I remember in the early '60s they came out with "Mondo Cane" (Sp) with the natives dancing naked. Big time advertising campaign on TV. I tagged along with mother & father and fell promptly asleep.

RGMCSE
08-21-2016, 09:07 PM
So I've never seen The Big Lebowsky. After all the build up, Im scared to watch it.


I've never met someone who didn't like this movie. Arguably Goodmans finest work.


Im not trying to be a contrarian but I honestly do not find "the big lebowsky" entertaining. I always felt like I was missing something. I've watched about 5 times over the years and I guess I just don't like the movie. I've since realized after watching "Inside Llewyn Davis" that I must really dislike the Coen brothers films. They're movies get a lot of acclaim and I found "true grit" and "no country for old men" just ok. It's one of the reasons why I won't waste my time watching Fargo.

Thread
08-21-2016, 09:12 PM
Im not trying to be a contrarian but I honestly do not find "the big lebowsky" entertaining.

I'm with ya.

baseline bum
08-21-2016, 09:15 PM
"Donny, you're out of your element."

"This is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules."

:lmao Fucking classic. Still my favorite is the rant about "this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass"

baseline bum
08-21-2016, 09:18 PM
Clockwork Orange is another one. Outside of having an extremely weird and bizarre plot line, what the fuck is so special about that movie?

I gotta disagree here. I was dying laughing when he started belting out "I'm Singing in the Rain" while raping that woman.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 09:54 PM
Even that one is just regardless as an average to above average action film, imo.

The one with the helicopter in Somalia. Everyone raved about it.

Thread
08-21-2016, 10:03 PM
The one with the helicopter in Somalia. Everyone raved about it.

"Black Hawk Down." I wasted my time & money. And I should have known better.

Fabbs
08-21-2016, 10:25 PM
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JoeTait75
08-21-2016, 10:27 PM
It has not aged well. [At the time] it was big shit. The actual violence is cartoonish which does not travel well.

The Warriors is dated as hell, yes. It's enjoyable in its campiness, though. Southern Comfort, which Walter Hill made right after The Warriors, has aged better.

Extreme Prejudice is my favorite Walter Hill movie, FWIW.

pgardn
08-21-2016, 10:30 PM
I've never met someone who didn't like this movie. Arguably Goodmans finest work.

My wife can't stand it.

Overall though, a movie like this will be nitpicked. Actually I think it's best watched alone. There is a ton of good stuff. Thread ain't gonna like a movie where Donnie mistakes Nihilists for Nazis.

Thread
08-21-2016, 10:39 PM
Southern Comfort, which Walter Hill made right after The Warriors, has aged better.

It's difficult to find this film. I've never seen it.

You think I'd like that, Joe?

pgardn
08-21-2016, 10:40 PM
:lmao Fucking classic. Still my favorite is the rant about "this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass"

When Donnie keeps adding "I am the Walrus", while The Dude is trying to fit Lenin/Lennon into his explanation of the crime to Walter while Walter just simmers until he blows up. Goldman was perfect for this interplay that continues throughout the movie.

Fn great stuff...

pgardn
08-21-2016, 10:47 PM
:lmao Fucking classic. Still my favorite is the rant about "this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass"

And the fat kid with the homework just watches Walter destroy the neighbor's new car... Damn good.

I love how Walter brought that rumpled homework in his "evidence" ziplock baggie pulled out of his briefcase he pops open.... presented it to him like a seasoned interrogater. "And is this your homework"
"He's cracking" while The Dude just gets more frustrated.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 10:48 PM
It's difficult to find this film. I've never seen it.

You think I'd like that, Joe?

That's a good one. Southern Comfort.

SpursforSix
08-21-2016, 10:50 PM
"Black Hawk Down." I wasted my time & money. And I should have known better.

Yeah. Gerard Butler can't be expected to carry a movie.

Chris
08-22-2016, 12:00 AM
:lmao Fucking classic. Still my favorite is the rant about "this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass"

"We fucks you up. We takes the money! Don't worry Donny these men are cowards."

DMC
08-22-2016, 12:11 AM
Most of these movies aren't considered to be universally great in the first place.

Some that are, however, are pretty shitty.

Titanic.. shitty movie. Other than the fetish aspect of portraying a big older looking woman trying to fuck a kid, it's just a predictable film for some reason.

Ray.. Oh look, Jamie Fox pretending to be Ray Charles.. he's never done that before.

12 years a Slave. Yeah and? Oh no, there was slavery back then... and a black guy got taken into slavery even though he spoke well.

Interstellar.. probably the stupidest concept for a movie I've seen in the past 20 years (other than the obvious quirky films).

Armageddon.. I wanted to see Affleck die. No dice. Other than Steve B, pretty shitty film.

Days of Thunder.. what? Duval should have refused that role.

Vanilla Sky... Hello, tech support? Cut this shit.. easy to fall asleep in this one.

Anything Cage ever did, even The Rock.. is a shitty film.

Any film with a "message'> Fuck you, that's my message. Entertain me, don't try to lecture me you fat Hollywood jew fucks.

DMC
08-22-2016, 12:12 AM
The one with the helicopter in Somalia. Everyone raved about it.
Same with American Sniper. People think they have to show overt appreciation for the military. Producers know this and milk the fuck out of it while it lasts.

DMC
08-22-2016, 12:18 AM
I agree, Pacino is good. When I say he's overrated I mean that he's the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd name that comes to everyone's mind when thinking about "the greatest actor (of all-time even)", and to me he doesn't deserve to be that high. I've seen way too many cringe worthy performances from him.
You've seen way too many movies then. Al Pacino has a great range, he can be a softie or a hard ass. He can be a druglord or a cop. He can be a slick real estate salesman or a CIA instructor. I cannot think of anyone with the range he has. Val Kilmer comes pretty close before he ballooned out, but others in their realm don't quite reach that level.

Compare Lefty from Donnie Brasco to Tony Montana from Scarface, or to the colonel from Scent of a Woman. Same guy.. but Al has the ability to make you feel sorry for him for not being a legit gangster, how does he manage that? You actually feel something for the relationship he has with his wife, how he leaves that house for the last time and prepares as if what he's doing is important. The chemistry between he and Depp in that film is palpable. Al has a face that says his lines for him. He's unrivaled, imo.

HI-FI
08-22-2016, 12:22 AM
It's difficult to find this film. I've never seen it.

You think I'd like that, Joe?
Southern Comfort is good stuff, surprised you haven't seen it. Hill did the Long Riders during this period which is badass from what I remember.
Extreme Prejudice is another favorite. There are a few of his films I haven't seen, I wish they'd put out a directors cut to Another 48 Hours.

Blake
08-22-2016, 12:30 AM
Gods not Dead both 1 and 2 were underrated popcorn thrillers tho

Thread
08-22-2016, 01:00 AM
Hill did the Long Riders during this period which is badass from what I remember.


I thought it a bit trite, hurried and incomplete. And of course gimmicky with the brothers accommodation.

Thread
08-22-2016, 01:02 AM
Vanilla Sky...

And the advertising campaign was suffocating.

rmt
08-22-2016, 01:14 AM
Most of these movies aren't considered to be universally great in the first place.

Some that are, however, are pretty shitty.

Titanic.. shitty movie. Other than the fetish aspect of portraying a big older looking woman trying to fuck a kid, it's just a predictable film for some reason.

Ray.. Oh look, Jamie Fox pretending to be Ray Charles.. he's never done that before.

12 years a Slave. Yeah and? Oh no, there was slavery back then... and a black guy got taken into slavery even though he spoke well.

Interstellar.. probably the stupidest concept for a movie I've seen in the past 20 years (other than the obvious quirky films).

Armageddon.. I wanted to see Affleck die. No dice. Other than Steve B, pretty shitty film.

Days of Thunder.. what? Duval should have refused that role.

Vanilla Sky... Hello, tech support? Cut this shit.. easy to fall asleep in this one.

Anything Cage ever did, even The Rock.. is a shitty film.

Any film with a "message'> Fuck you, that's my message. Entertain me, don't try to lecture me you fat Hollywood jew fucks.

Respectfully, disagree. Love Con Air and Face Off was pretty intense.

Thread
08-22-2016, 01:18 AM
Respectfully, disagree. Love Con Air and Face Off was pretty intense.

& "Knowing" isn't bad either. Grim of course, but, it's got the best airliner crash I've ever seen on film.

And considering the plot he not as maniacal as he usually is.

Will Hunting
08-22-2016, 05:12 AM
I gotta disagree here. I was dying laughing when he started belting out "I'm Singing in the Rain" while raping that woman.
So outside of that scene you agree the movie is shitty?

timtonymanu
08-22-2016, 05:59 AM
I saw Boyhood the other day and didn't think it was that special. I mean yeah it was cool they filmed it over 11 years, but that was it for me.

SpursforSix
08-22-2016, 06:41 AM
& "Knowing" isn't bad either. Grim of course, but, it's got the best airliner crash I've ever seen on film.

And considering the plot he not as maniacal as he usually is.

Red Rock West...that was pretty good.