Colin Kaepernick sat to protest

[ducks]

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has willingly immersed himself into controversy by refusing to stand for the playing of the national anthem in protest of what he deems are wrongdoings against African Americans and minorities in the United States.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-protest-of-national-anthem

[Winehole23]

you got a problem with that?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just getting used to sitting on the bench.
:lol Gabbert

[DeadlyDynasty]

Just getting used to sitting on the bench.
:lol Gabbert
/thread. The irony being that blacks abandoned him while white america took him in

[ducks]

you got a problem with that?

sitting is better then stopping traffic destroying property and shooting someone
I would do other things when he did ( no one new why when he did it)

[Trill Clinton]

much respect to colin

[Winehole23]

sitting is better then stopping traffic destroying property and shooting someone
I would do other things when he did ( no one new why when he did it)who did BLM shoot?

[Trill Clinton]

going through kaep's twitter timeline its obvious he is a fellow SJW. gone have to give him a follow now. my nigga wore a malcolm x hat and malcolm and fidel castro tee
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ykgqyd.png
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[TheSanityAnnex]

much respect to colin
if Colin doesn't think America is great than he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.

[Trill Clinton]

if Colin doesn't think America is great than he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.


i still got it

[DarrinS]

/career

[DarrinS]

the anti-Kaepernick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PechzO5LASs

[InRareForm]

Grow up kap... How disrespectful

[tlongII]

He has to divert attention away from the fact he sucks.

[spurraider21]

he has the money to live in any country on earth, chooses to live in the only one where he can actually make the money he's making for doing what he's doing (riding the bench), then decides to shit on it

what a patriot :cry

[ColinB]

Did he sit through half of it?

[ducks]

Did he sit through half of it?

ALL

[z0sa]

Bitch move.

[chunticakes]

he has the money to live in any country on earth, chooses to live in the only one where he can actually make the money he's making for doing what he's doing (riding the bench), then decides to shit on it

what a patriot :cry

:lol well said.

[pgardn]

he has the money to live in any country on earth, chooses to live in the only one where he can actually make the money he's making for doing what he's doing (riding the bench), then decides to shit on it

what a patriot :cry

This is exactly what makes the country great.
He CAN do it.

And then we can all whine about it.
Or not.
This great flawed place we live will now crumble because Colin sat his bitchy ass down.

[spurraider21]

This is exactly what makes the country great.
He CAN do it.

And then we can all whine about it.
Or not.
i'm not denying his right to be a dipshit.

but he is a dipshit

[pgardn]

i'm not denying his right to be a dipshit.

but he is a dipshit

He was a dipshit before he sat.

[spurraider21]

He was a dipshit before he sat.
he then exercised his first amendment rights to make it painfully clear

[Spurminator]

Damn, so many people triggered by this.

[Trill Clinton]

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:lmao

[vy65]

Damn, so many people triggered by this.

+1

Who the fuck cares?

[ducks]

someone posted this on Facebook
So I just finished watching the news and apparently the San Francisco quarterback KopenDick refused or sat through the Nation Anthem. He said something about not standing because of black lives matter. Let me tell you something you POS. I don't care about black, blue, purple or green lives mattering. All lives matter. You are an American. You stand and show your respect for our flag, our song, our country. It is sad that the NFL does not have the balls to punish you the way I would. I would take away some of those American Dollars you earn and seem to love. Grow up boy. Be a Man. Set an example beyond trowing a football. Be an American.

[Trill Clinton]

bomani owning doug gottlieb

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[vy65]

Lol trill. Patron saint of the :cry persecuted :cry millionaire

[pgardn]

bomani owning doug gottlieb

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He was an asshole BEFORE any of the anthem bs.

[pgardn]

someone posted this on Facebook
So I just finished watching the news and apparently the San Francisco quarterback KopenDick refused or sat through the Nation Anthem. He said something about not standing because of black lives matter. Let me tell you something you POS. I don't care about black, blue, purple or green lives mattering. All lives matter. You are an American. You stand and show your respect for our flag, our song, our country. It is sad that the NFL does not have the balls to punish you the way I would. I would take away some of those American Dollars you earn and seem to love. Grow up boy. Be a Man. Set an example beyond trowing a football. Be an American.

How would you punish him?

[ducks]

if I owned the 49ers I would cut him

[ducks]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/athletes-respond-on-twitter-to-kaepernick’s-protest/ar-AAi9Wad?li=BBnbfcL other athletes

[DMX7]

Colin, my man. Vote for Trump! What the hell do you have to lose? What the hell do you have to lose???

[Avante]

Why not protest why a HUGE % of black men bail on their kids and that has a lot to do with why we see all these problems with blacks.

I wasn't allowed to run the streets and if I'd been late getting home my dad would have kicked my ass, just like I would have done if my son had been late.

And, an NFL football field isn't about his personal opinions anywhere.

Stupid move and he needs to be dumped.

[CosmicCowboy]

Jerry Jones probably calling SF Monday.

[pgardn]

Why not protest why a HUGE % of black men bail on their kids and that has a lot to do with why we see all these problems with blacks.

I wasn't allowed to run the streets and if I'd been late getting home my dad would have kicked my ass, just like I would have done if my son had been late.

And, an NFL football field isn't about his personal opinions anywhere.

Stupid move and he needs to be dumped.

Then tell the NFL to negotiate contracts with coverage that takes the cameras off of him ya dumb shit. You think the NFL does this?~~~~~Nope~~~~~ Sheeeesh. You fail to realize the NFL is in the entertainment business. This thread has legs. And the TV and press coverage gets a big smile$$$

[pgardn]

if I owned the 49ers I would cut him

You need to own a Middle School football team. Feel like a boss...

[ducks]

lol his parents are white

[ducks]

You need to own a Middle School football team. Feel like a boss...
i am a boss

[ducks]

New York Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz, a black Puerto Rican American, chided his fellow NFL player for making it personal and racial.

"Regardless of how you feel about the things that are going on in America today and the things that are going on across the world with gun violence and things like that: You've got to respect the flag and stand up with your teammates," Cruz told USA Today's Lorenzo Reyes.

"It's bigger than just you."

Cruz's teammate Justin Pugh tweeted his opinion on saluting the flag.

[hitmanyr2k]

I don't see anything wrong. Colin Kaepernick made a peaceful demonstration of what he believes. He didn't abuse anyone or call anyone any names. Americans say derogatory things about their country and the people in it every single day. That's their right. What's the problem other than him being a shitty QB?

[tlongII]

I have no problem with his actions. He still sucks though.

[ducks]

I don't see anything wrong. Colin Kaepernick made a peaceful demonstration of what he believes. He didn't abuse anyone or call anyone any names. Americans say derogatory things about their country and the people in it every single day. That's their right. What's the problem other than him being a shitty QB?
cruz said how he did it was all about him
he could have lead an effort he could use some of his money to help fight his cause

[pgardn]

i am a boss

You are delusional.

[hitmanyr2k]

cruz said how he did it was all about him
he could have lead an effort he could use some of his money to help fight his cause

Who cares what Cruz says? Since when is he the authority on anyone's motives? All we've heard all year is how politically correct the country is getting and as soon as someone goes against the grain the sky is falling. It's OK for our Presidential candidates to tear down the country and say whatever they want about anyone but a shitty football player can't express his views peacefully?

[Drachen]

if Colin doesn't think America is great than he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.

Trump doesn't think America is great

[SpursforSix]

Lol at protesting a system that allows him to make tens of millions of dollars for being a shitty quarterback. If he really wants to protest, why not refuse to play for the man. Then he might be taken seriously.

[Trill Clinton]

Lol at protesting a system that allows him to make tens of millions of dollars for being a shitty quarterback. If he really wants to protest, why not refuse to play for the man. Then he might be taken seriously.


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[SpursforSix]

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I can't make sense of that. Here's how that shows up on my phone.

“stop saying kaepernick has anything in common with ali, “ the morons said. pic.twitter.com/iCNS879Usi

— El Flaco (@bomani_jones) August 28, 2016

[ducks]

Who cares what Cruz says? Since when is he the authority on anyone's motives? All we've heard all year is how politically correct the country is getting and as soon as someone goes against the grain the sky is falling. It's OK for our Presidential candidates to tear down the country and say whatever they want about anyone but a shitty football player can't express his views peacefully?

what he says matters as much as what you think on the subject
just because you disagree with it

[ducks]

You are delusional.

Been a boss since 2000

[ducks]

Cuban stands up for him
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mark-cuban-defends-colin-kaepernicks-152100032.html

[spurraider21]

like i said on page 1, he has the right to protest and be a dipshit. the right to dissent, protest is part of what makes america great, even if the premise behind the protest is moronic.

that doesnt make him less of a dipshit, though

[TheSanityAnnex]

Trump doesn't think America is great
That was the joke.

[TheSanityAnnex]

like i said on page 1, he has the right to protest and be a dipshit. the right to dissent, protest is part of what makes america great, even if the premise behind the protest is moronic.

that doesnt make him less of a dipshit, though
I support his right to protest while watching him cost himself his career. He was already a toxic teammate before this and this may be the nail in the coffin.

[ducks]

On Saturday, former Broncos tight end Joel Dreessen initially reacted by tweeting that he would “stomp” Kaepernick’s toes with his cleats to force him to stand up. Dreessen later backpedaled away from his original comment, clarifying that he believes Kaepernick is doing “the right thing the wrong way.”

[pgardn]

I support his right to protest while watching him cost himself his career. He was already a toxic teammate before this and this may be the nail in the coffin.

And If he performs this whole thing might be forgotten. A deep playoff run and a great year could possibly even get him more support for his individuality. Success in one area leads can lead to admiration another. Or vice versa. The public is so fllpn fickle.

It's fun now because he has found another way to ostracize himself. I really doubt if he gives a shit one way or another. He probably has not given the situation of blacks in the US much thought at all which is why this is so amusing. It's not like he is Karl Marx making a statement so that people will read his manuscripts concerning mixed societies and democracy.

Its strange that people even care about the political thoughts of entertainers." I can scramble in the pocket, let's talk voter ID law."

[spurraider21]

And If he performs this whole thing will be forgotten.

It's fun now because he has found another way to ostracize himself. I really doubt if he gives a shit one way or another. He probably has not given the situation of blacks in the US much thought at all which is why this is so amusing. It's not like he is Karl Marx making a statement so that people will read his manuscripts concerning mixed societies and democracy.

Its strange that people even care about the political thoughts of entertainers." I can scramble in the pocket, let's talk voter ID law."
ive seen singers/musicians get booed off the stage when they start talking politics

[Winehole23]

interesting context for "The Star-Spangled Banner"

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-is-righter-than-you-know-the-national-anthem-is-a-celebration-of-slavery/

[pgardn]

Trump doesn't think America is great

im still trying to figure out when we were the greatest or even great, and how we are in such dire straits now.

[pgardn]

ive seen singers/musicians get booed off the stage when they start talking politics

Yes.

Because people want to hear their music most likely. You pay money for 3 hrs of music, not lectures.

[UZER]

Last attempt to stay relevant before he's outta the league. PR move.

[ducks]

NY Giants Send LOUD Message To America After Kaepernick Refuses To Stand for National Anthem

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2016/08/28/ny-giants-message/

[ducks]

Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/28/kaepernick-will-sit-through-anthem-until-theres-change.html

[ducks]

He could also learn a few lessons from New York Jets running back Rashad Jennings, who accurately explained to the New York Daily News that the national anthem not only represents freedom from slavery, but also pays tribute to the hundreds of thousands who sacrificed their lives in the Civil War:

I’m an optimist. I figure if it was the intention of our founding fathers to keep America a nation of slaves, then it wouldn’t have chosen a song where all four verses end with ‘the land of the free and the home of the brave’ instead of ‘land of the free, home of the slave.’

Exactly. Yes, America began as a nation of slaves, but because of amazing leaders such a Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr., the United States of America now stands tall and proud as the freest nation on Earth, bar none!

We are an exceptional nation, ladies and gentlemen — but apparently, NFL superstar Colin Kaepernick has forgotten this …

Dude signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000. In 2016, Kaepernick will earn a base salary of $11,900,000, a roster bonus of $2,000,000 and a workout bonus of $400,000. Kaepernick has a cap hit of $15,890,753 while his dead money value is $19,697,260, according to Spotrac.

[pgardn]

Darkwing Duck on a patriotic rampage.

[Spurminator]

I don't understand, ducks. I thought you wanted to Make America Great Again. How is it that a pro athlete's refusal to stand for the national anthem of an ungreat nation is a crisis of serious importance?

[ducks]

There is a proper place to do that. He made it all about him. I do appreciate he did not destroy property or people. He made it all about him. Why not give a speech like mj did?

[spurraider21]

so ducks wants Kaep to do the PC thing and stand for the anthem

[DeadlyDynasty]

And If he performs this whole thing might be forgotten. A deep playoff run and a great year could possibly even get him more support for his individuality. Success in one area leads can lead to admiration another. Or vice versa. The public is so fllpn fickle.

It's fun now because he has found another way to ostracize himself. I really doubt if he gives a shit one way or another. He probably has not given the situation of blacks in the US much thought at all which is why this is so amusing. It's not like he is Karl Marx making a statement so that people will read his manuscripts concerning mixed societies and democracy.

Its strange that people even care about the political thoughts of entertainers." I can scramble in the pocket, let's talk voter ID law."

Pretty much this. Americans are a lot more receptive to winners--especially African-American fans, who are notorious front-runners when it comes to athletes and teams. A shitty player's agenda has a finite shelf-life in the public eye. Just ask Michael Sam, another guy(?) who also used his agenda to overlook his shittiness.

[hitmanyr2k]

He could also learn a few lessons from New York Jets running back Rashad Jennings, who accurately explained to the New York Daily News that the national anthem not only represents freedom from slavery, but also pays tribute to the hundreds of thousands who sacrificed their lives in the Civil War:

I’m an optimist. I figure if it was the intention of our founding fathers to keep America a nation of slaves, then it wouldn’t have chosen a song where all four verses end with ‘the land of the free and the home of the brave’ instead of ‘land of the free, home of the slave.’

Exactly. Yes, America began as a nation of slaves, but because of amazing leaders such a Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr., the United States of America now stands tall and proud as the freest nation on Earth, bar none!

We are an exceptional nation, ladies and gentlemen — but apparently, NFL superstar Colin Kaepernick has forgotten this …

Dude signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000. In 2016, Kaepernick will earn a base salary of $11,900,000, a roster bonus of $2,000,000 and a workout bonus of $400,000. Kaepernick has a cap hit of $15,890,753 while his dead money value is $19,697,260, according to Spotrac.

It's easy to forget with the current state of affairs in politics. We have people getting angry over a trivial football player not standing up for the national anthem and saying that it's disrespectful but at the same time we have millions of idiots cheering and supporting a Presidential candidate that proposed a Muslim ban on the country while spitting in the face of thousands of Muslim Americans who have served, are serving or have died in our armed forces. And these Muslim Americans in our military are supposed to be fighting for "freedom" and "freedom" of religion, except their own I guess :lol This country can be so backwards and hypocritical at times it's unbelievable. I'm willing to bet a lot of the NFL fans who are hardcore Trump supporters that think they're ultra-patriotic with their "rah rah, we support the troops" bullshit are too stupid to see the hypocrisy.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's easy to forget with the current state of affairs in politics. We have people getting angry over a trivial football player not standing up for the national anthem and saying that it's disrespectful but at the same time we have millions of idiots cheering and supporting a Presidential candidate that proposed a Muslim ban on the country while spitting in the face of thousands of Muslim Americans who have served, are serving or have died in our armed forces. And these Muslim Americans in our military are supposed to be fighting for "freedom" and "freedom" of religion, except their own I guess :lol This country can be so backwards and hypocritical at times it's unbelievable. I'm willing to bet a lot of the NFL fans who are hardcore Trump supporters that think they're ultra-patriotic with their "rah rah, we support the troops" bullshit are too stupid to see the hypocrisy.

fact check would give you a "pants on fire" for that one.

[IceColdBrewski]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq_HTANWEAAH6C1.jpg

[hitmanyr2k]

fact check would give you a "pants on fire" for that one.

No, they wouldn't.

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A piece of shit who's never served a day in his life calling to ban all Muslims from the country while not giving a damn about the thousands who are serving this country every day. And his dipshit supporters cheer this because they're a bunch of cowards who are afraid of their own shadows. As soon as a little adversity comes their way they tuck their tails and abandon what they think makes the country so "great". American exceptionalism at its finest :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

He made it all about him. Why not give a speech like mj did?

If he just gave a speech, nobody would care about it. There wouldn't be a 3-page thread on this forum about a speech by Colin Kaepernick, and that speech wouldn't have consumed a couple of days of talk shows on radio and television. By sitting instead of doing something that others could have just comfortably ignored, Kaepernick brought more light to his complaint than he could have in almost any other way. (Of course, nobody who disagrees with him really wants to talk about the basis for his protest, so instead of discussing the issue we're denigrating the speaker for bothering to express his viewpoint.)

You might have been more comfortable with a speech that everyone ignored, but the ironic thing about Kaepernick's protest is that for all of the crap that he's getting (and perhaps justifiably so) for being unpatriotic, his choice and his actions are particularly American.

This isn't about the First Amendment (though clearly the First Amendment protects him from public punishment for exercising his right to this form of expression); it's about the underlying notions of free speech and free thought. Free speech is not speech without consequence, and Kaepernick seems to understand and accept that he'll face consequences for this - up to and possibly including the loss of his job. But he made a point and spoke his conscience when he had a platform to do so, which is quintessentially American.

[boutons_deux]

yep, rigthwingnuts hate PC when it's claimed by the lefties, but LOVE PC when they use their own PC to shit on the lefties, minorities.

Rightwingnuts are SO DAINTLY OVER-SENSITIVE if anybody says anything negative about THEIR country.

[CosmicCowboy]

No, they wouldn't.

viDffWUjcBA

A piece of shit who's never served a day in his life calling to ban all Muslims from the country while not giving a damn about the thousands who are serving this country every day. And his dipshit supporters cheer this because they're a bunch of cowards who are afraid of their own shadows. As soon as a little adversity comes their way they tuck their tails and abandon what they think makes the country so "great". American exceptionalism at its finest :lol

Banning new Muslims from entering without serious vetting is not the same as banning all Muslims. I'm not advocating either but you really should educate yourself before parroting talking points.

That's a serious fail on your part and makes it hard to take anything you say seriously.

[Trill Clinton]

yep, rigthwingnuts hate PC when it's claimed by the lefties, but LOVE PC when they use their own PC to shit on the lefties, minorities.

Rightwingnuts are SO DAINTLY OVER-SENSITIVE if anybody says anything negative about THEIR country.

yea, they've been very PC on this.

[elbamba]

From a football perspective, I think Kaepernick was going to lose his job before this. It would have been more impressive 2-3 years ago, before his big contract and endorsement money. He does not have much to lose now that he is no longer a duel-threat qb.

[UZER]

From a football perspective, I think Kaepernick was going to lose his job before this. It would have been more impressive 2-3 years ago, before his big contract and endorsement money. He does not have much to lose now that he is no longer a duel-threat qb.

Yup


Last attempt to stay relevant before he's outta the league. PR move.

Now if he's cut, and/or doesn't get another gig, he can blame his stance and racism.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Banning new Muslims from entering without serious vetting is not the same as banning all Muslims. I'm not advocating either but you really should educate yourself before parroting talking points.

That's a serious fail on your part and makes it hard to take anything you say seriously.

Speaking of ignorance:

The Process for Interviewing, Vetting, and Resettling Syrian Refugees in America Is Incredibly Long and Thorough

Another important distinction to make is between resettlement and asylum. The large numbers of Syrians we have seen arriving in Europe this year have either already been registered as refugees elsewhere or have never been registered and therefore are asylum-seekers. They are hoping to be registered and subsequently interviewed by a European Union member-state government to prove that they have a legitimate fear of persecution and cannot return to their homes.

Resettlement, on the other hand, is reserved for a small number of select individuals who are screened and vetted prior to coming to the United States. They have already established that they cannot return home for fear of persecution, and the information they have provided has been fact-checked for credibility. They have also undergone the rigorous screening process as described above. This process takes on average a year-and-a-half and sometimes as long as seven years. In cases where there are legitimate concerns (say, the name of one family member pops up on a security database), the resettlement case of the entire family can be denied.

Because it takes such a long time, the 10,000 Syrian refugees who would be admitted to the United States via resettlement in FY 2016 are refugees that are already undergoing the vetting process. As of Nov. 16, UNHCR has referred 23,092 Syrian refugees for resettlement to the United States; 7,014 Syrian refugees have been interviewed by DHS officers and are awaiting clearance; and 2,174 refugees have been admitted. Due to the length of time this process takes, most of the Syrian refugees who would come to the United States over the next year through resettlement fled Syria at the beginning of the conflict — before the Islamic State had even gained prominence.

But let’s put all this in context. Less than 1 percent of the global population of refugees will ever even be considered for resettlement and undergo an initial interview by UNHCR. Out of the 59.5 million displaced people in the world today — the largest number to date since World War II — approximately 19.5 million are refugees, which means they meet a high standard of refugee criteria. Since 2011, the United States has accepted approximately 75,000 refugees for resettlement yearly, and the plan is to increase the number to 85,000 next year, with 10,000 originating from Syria. This means that each year, the United States has accepted approximately .36 percent of the world’s refugees through a rigorous resettlement process. Even with the proposed increase of 10,000 Syrians, it will be only .44 percent of the global total — and that’s if the overall population of refugees does not increase. And as for the amount of Syrians that the United States has committed to resettle, it’s still only .2 percent of the Syrian refugees registered in Turkey, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, and North Africa.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/30/the-process-for-interviewing-vetting-and-resettling-syrian-refugees-in-america-is-incredibly-long-and-thorough/

[hitmanyr2k]

Banning new Muslims from entering without serious vetting is not the same as banning all Muslims. I'm not advocating either but you really should educate yourself before parroting talking points.

That's a serious fail on your part and makes it hard to take anything you say seriously.

It doesn't matter if it's existing Muslims or "new" Muslims jackass. It's still a call to ban an entire religion, period. It still spits in the face of the people of that faith who are defending this country so your fat ass can sit on a message board all day and trivialize it as "talking points".

[Fabbs]

Wish his reason listed would have gone far beyond Cops who shoot innocents.
How about "Until the political vegatables actually do something about X ____ Y_____Z_____"

He kind of had a "coons lifes matter" undertone. Don't think he's going to get much support.

[CosmicCowboy]

It doesn't matter if it's existing Muslims or "new" Muslims jackass. It's still a call to ban an entire religion, period. It still spits in the face of the people of that faith who are defending this country so your fat ass can sit on a message board all day and trivialize it as "talking points".

words matter.

[mingus]

Is this the thing where liberals have tunnel vision on and only or mostly only recognize White-inflicted oppression? The biggest form of oppression against African-Americans at this moment in time is the media telling them & everyone else that the only thing between them & living a successful law-abiding life is (rampant) racism from (conservative) govt. officials down to regular citizens. Now not saying there aren't problems in this respect, because there are. But to place blame squarely on that does a huge disservice to them & the country as a whole. By doing that you de-emphasize or completely eliminate the primary reasons for why people succeed. Simultaneously you provoke the worst in them, the characteristics that make people fail: fear, hostility, anger, hopelessness, co-dependence (on govt.).

[Reck]

words matter.

Glad you're still making an ass out of yourself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Speaking of ignorance:

The Process for Interviewing, Vetting, and Resettling Syrian Refugees in America Is Incredibly Long and Thorough

Speaking of ignorance:

James B. Comey, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Justice: “We can only query against that which we have collected. And so if someone has not made a ripple in the pond in Syria on a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our databases, we can query our databases until the cows come home but nothing will show up because we have no record of that person…You can only query what you have collected. And with respect to Iraqi refugees, we had far more in our databases because of our country’s work there for a decade. [The case of vetting Syrian refugees] is a different situation.” (10/21/15)
Jeh C. Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: “It is true that we are not going to know a whole lot about the Syrians that come forth in this process… That is definitely a challenge….We know that organizations like ISIL might like to exploit this [Syrian refugee resettlement] program…The good news is that we are better at [vetting] than we were eight years ago. The bad news is that there is no risk-free process.” (10/21/15)
Nicholas J. Rasmussen, Director, National Counterterrorism Center, Office of the Director of National Intelligence: “The intelligence picture we’ve had of this [Syrian] conflict zone isn’t what we’d like it to be…you can only review [refugees’ submitted background data] against what you have.” (10/8/15)
James B. Comey, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Department of Justice: “There is risk associated with bringing anybody in from the outside, but especially from a conflict zone like [Syria]… My concern there [about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States] is that there are certain gaps I don’t want to talk about publicly in the data available to us.” (10/8/15)
Jeh C. Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: “But [the Syrian refugees are] a population of people that we’re not going to know a whole lot about.” (10/8/15)


Gen. (ret.) James Clapper, Director, Director of National Intelligence: “As [Syrian refugees] descend on Europe, one of the obvious issues that we worry about, and in turn as we bring refugees into this country, is exactly what’s their background? We don’t obviously put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees…That is a huge concern of ours.” (9/9/15)
Michael Steinbach, Assistant Director for the Federal Bureau of Investigation: “Yes, I’m concerned [about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States]…We’ll have to go take a look at those lists and go through all of those intelligence holdings and be very careful to try and identify connections to foreign terrorist groups…in Iraq, we were there on the ground collecting [intelligence], so we had databases to use…You have to have information to vet, so the concern is in Syria is that we don’t have the systems in places on the ground to collect the information.” (2/12/15)
https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-officials-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/

[Reck]

^ Legit question TSA...

Are you lowkey Cosmiccowboy? It seems like you're always there to defend the guy. On cue. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14068080_10209939872395959_4376200013351081263_n.j pg?oh=41866273fa33fcf1c0835d24800053b2&oe=588593A2

[Reck]

Power move. He knew he was gonna get cut so he started some controversy on his way out.

[Trill Clinton]

https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14068080_10209939872395959_4376200013351081263_n.j pg?oh=41866273fa33fcf1c0835d24800053b2&oe=588593A2
http://i66.tinypic.com/xmo09f.png

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Speaking of ignorance:

[/COLOR]James B. Comey, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Justice: “We can only query against that which we have collected. And so if someone has not made a ripple in the pond in Syria on a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our databases, we can query our databases until the cows come home but nothing will show up because we have no record of that person…You can only query what you have collected. And with respect to Iraqi refugees, we had far more in our databases because of our country’s work there for a decade. [The case of vetting Syrian refugees] is a different situation.” (10/21/15)
Jeh C. Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: “It is true that we are not going to know a whole lot about the Syrians that come forth in this process… That is definitely a challenge….We know that organizations like ISIL might like to exploit this [Syrian refugee resettlement] program…The good news is that we are better at [vetting] than we were eight years ago. The bad news is that there is no risk-free process.” (10/21/15)
Nicholas J. Rasmussen, Director, National Counterterrorism Center, Office of the Director of National Intelligence: “The intelligence picture we’ve had of this [Syrian] conflict zone isn’t what we’d like it to be…you can only review [refugees’ submitted background data] against what you have.” (10/8/15)
James B. Comey, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Department of Justice: “There is risk associated with bringing anybody in from the outside, but especially from a conflict zone like [Syria]… My concern there [about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States] is that there are certain gaps I don’t want to talk about publicly in the data available to us.” (10/8/15)
Jeh C. Johnson, Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: “But [the Syrian refugees are] a population of people that we’re not going to know a whole lot about.” (10/8/15)


Gen. (ret.) James Clapper, Director, Director of National Intelligence: “As [Syrian refugees] descend on Europe, one of the obvious issues that we worry about, and in turn as we bring refugees into this country, is exactly what’s their background? We don’t obviously put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees…That is a huge concern of ours.” (9/9/15)
Michael Steinbach, Assistant Director for the Federal Bureau of Investigation: “Yes, I’m concerned [about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States]…We’ll have to go take a look at those lists and go through all of those intelligence holdings and be very careful to try and identify connections to foreign terrorist groups…in Iraq, we were there on the ground collecting [intelligence], so we had databases to use…You have to have information to vet, so the concern is in Syria is that we don’t have the systems in places on the ground to collect the information.” (2/12/15)
https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-officials-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/

Was the database search the only part of the process I linked?

[dbreiden83080]

This guy sucks. He just flat out sucks. Hope they bench him early and cut him at the end of the year.

[dbreiden83080]

Power move. He knew he was gonna get cut so he started some controversy on his way out.

Power move? Now nobody else will want him. Everybody is just shitting on him. I think he is just fucking stupid.

[Trill Clinton]

Power move? Now nobody else will want him. Everybody is just shitting on him. I think he is just fucking stupid.

people shitting on him haven't said one thing about the issues he brought up. just telling him to shut up since he's rich. they're proving his pointhttp://i66.tinypic.com/xmo09f.jpg

[Reck]

Power move? Now nobody else will want him. Everybody is just shitting on him. I think he is just fucking stupid.

Random people on the internet aren't really the people who will hire him though, will they?

This guy already got paid regardless though.

[dbreiden83080]

Random people on the internet aren't really the people who will hire him though, will they?

This guy already got paid regardless though.

Hiring him to be a back up with all this controversy? I guess. I don't see how he did himself any favors here.

[RD2191]

Respect. But murica...fuck outta here.

[Spurminator]

It would be nice if he could articulate his opinions better than a 10th grader who just listened to Rage Against the Machine for the first time, though.

[DMC]

I sat through it as well. Fuck.

[DMC]

It would be nice if he could articulate his opinions better than a 10th grader who just listened to Rage Against the Machine for the first time, though.
fake rage. Won't go downtown Baltimore after 10pm, afraid all the disenfranchised brethren will rob and kill him. Probably has a police escort when he goes out.

[ducks]

Sheriff’s office invites Colin Kaepernick for a visit following comments on police violence

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article98770902.html#storylink=cpy

will he go ?

[Joseph Kony]

lol fatass patriot muricans pissed over some neeg not standing during a song but turn a blind eye to pentagon/DNC scandals and ignore reality while guzzling dr pepper and stuffing face with mayo sandwiches. who fucking cares if he doesnt stand :lol

[SpursforSix]

lol fatass patriot muricans pissed over some neeg not standing during a song but turn a blind eye to pentagon/DNC scandals and ignore reality while guzzling dr pepper and stuffing face with mayo sandwiches. who fucking cares if he doesnt stand :lol

I sure don't care. And I don't think most other people get made either. Until their media of choice tells them they should.

[Joseph Kony]

Muricans are fucking retarded. Only a complete tool would try to infer anything deep or meaningful from a fucking flag or stupid ass song.

:cry omg hes disrespecting those who have died :cry

really? because he didnt stand during an anthem? Nationalism is retarded and dumbass muricans who feel patriotism is sacred are even more retarded. the flag is a symbol of the country, not a bunch of dead asswipes who most likely were fighting for corporate interests and not anyones freedoms :lol always baffles me how people try to bend that shit into the ol "disrespecting those who died for freedoom!" bs. Like really, no one in the US's freedom has been in jeopardy since WW2. these people are fighting and dying for nothing more than the interests of old white faggots in congress and their lobbyist buddies

[Joseph Kony]

I sure don't care. And I don't think most other people get made either. Until their media of choice tells them they should.
:tu good for you not being a dumb sheep

[RD2191]

Muricans are fucking retarded. Only a complete tool would try to infer anything deep or meaningful from a fucking flag or stupid ass song.

:cry omg hes disrespecting those who have died :cry

really? because he didnt stand during an anthem? Nationalism is retarded and dumbass muricans who feel patriotism is sacred are even more retarded. the flag is a symbol of the country, not a bunch of dead asswipes who most likely were fighting for corporate interests and not anyones freedoms :lol always baffles me how people try to bend that shit into the ol "disrespecting those who died for freedoom!" bs. Like really, no one in the US's freedom has been in jeopardy since WW2. these people are fighting and dying for nothing more than the interests of old white faggots in congress and their lobbyist buddies

Bold this man and send him more child soldiers asap.

[Chinook]

Muricans are fucking retarded. Only a complete tool would try to infer anything deep or meaningful from a fucking flag or stupid ass song.

:cry omg hes disrespecting those who have died :cry

really? because he didnt stand during an anthem? Nationalism is retarded and dumbass muricans who feel patriotism is sacred are even more retarded. the flag is a symbol of the country, not a bunch of dead asswipes who most likely were fighting for corporate interests and not anyones freedoms :lol always baffles me how people try to bend that shit into the ol "disrespecting those who died for freedoom!" bs. Like really, no one in the US's freedom has been in jeopardy since WW2. these people are fighting and dying for nothing more than the interests of old white faggots in congress and their lobbyist buddies

Solid-assed post. Paying taxes and abiding by the laws are all it takes to continue being an model citizen. This fanaticism with shit like the national anthem and the flag are stupid. If you need it, whatever. I won't stop you. But no one sane should be focused on shit like this.

[boutons_deux]

Americans are fucking sickos with the fetishism about the American flag and the military (which is all part of the MIC decades-long propaganda/brain-washing/down-dumbing machine).

Americans are so fucking insecure they have to wave the flag, wrap themselves in the flag, keeping lying to themselves about how great and exceptional America is.

The military isn't "serving their country", they're being USED as cannon fodder, dying and getting maimed for the BigOil, BigCorp, and the MIC business of undending war and war profiteering.

[boutons_deux]

he has the money to live in any country on earth, chooses to live in the only one where he can actually make the money he's making for doing what he's doing (riding the bench), then decides to shit on it

what a patriot :cry

the flag isn't the USA, and he's not shitting on the flag or USA. You should apply to Fox news as guest commentator.

[boutons_deux]

Kaep is white? Like Obama is white? :lol

[spurraider21]

the flag isn't the USA, and he's not shitting on the flag or USA. You should apply to Fox news as guest commentator.
did i mention the flag?

[FromWayDowntown]

I think the point is that rich black dudes should keep they mouth shut unless they ready to toe the Patriotism line.

Heaven forbid that those blessed with power might actually be inclined to speak truth to power.

[TheSanityAnnex]

no wonder he's riding the pine...spends more time on Twitter than learning the new playbook


https://twitter.com/kaepernick7?lang=en (https://twitter.com/kaepernick7?lang=en)

[boutons_deux]

did i mention the flag?

who's talking to you?

[spurraider21]

who's talking to you?
you are. you responded directly to my post

i think you need to see a therapist

[boutons_deux]

you are. you responded directly to my post

i think you need to see a therapist

quoting you isn't talking to you, dumbfuck. It's just referencing your bullshit as context for my glorious post.

[Avante]

If he played for me he has already been told.

Avante....you will stand for our National Anthem, if ya don't you are gone and I've called around, you will not be playing in the NFL, do we have an understanding?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'd love to see some big lineman..."my dad died defending this country ya skinny little shit, you will stand or I will kick your ass, ok".

[Spurminator]

I think the point is that rich black dudes should keep they mouth shut unless they ready to toe the Patriotism line.

Heaven forbid that those blessed with power might actually be inclined to speak truth to power.

We don't want millionaire athletes speaking publicly about politics.

That's for billionaire businessmen hiding behind super PACs.

[spurraider21]

quoting you isn't talking to you, dumbfuck. It's just referencing your bullshit as context for my glorious post.
So when you responded directly to my post and you said "you should apply to Fox News" you were just talking to an imaginary friend?

Like I said, you should see a therapist.

[djohn2oo8]

https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14203274_10208490898124127_6335930165547826264_n.j pg?oh=d04c0aecf8472229b3ef8bbb7f4f8354&oe=5857EAF0

[boutons_deux]

So when you responded directly to my post and you said "you should apply to Fox News" you were just talking to an imaginary friend?

Like I said, you should see a therapist.

generic "you", all you guys who spout Repug/Fox style bullshit.

[InRareForm]

http://sfo.247sports.com/Bolt/Kaepernicks-next-protest-will-come-as-Chargers-salute-military-47067915

[Trill Clinton]

veterans came out in full support for kaepernick last night.

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[Trill Clinton]

#veteransforkaepernick

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here is colin going IN on trump and hillary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfas66rXUI

[Quetzal-X]

Zak de la Rocha been liftin'

[RandomGuy]

+1

As a veteran, I think the guy can stand or sit as his conscience dictates.

The PC police trying to tell him to stand up can eff themselves.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think the guy can stand or sit as his conscience dictates.
Oh Kaep will be doing plenty of sitting with the current trajectory of his career

[ducks]

The USA Today NinersWire transcript of the follow-up discussion shows that Kaepernick added, "You have Hillary who has called black teens or black kids super predators."

[TheGreatYacht]

American hero. Leave it to triggered right wing cucks to get sensitive over this. You faggots need to stop being so PC

[UZER]

He can sit if he damn well pleases. And people can curse his name if they damn well please too.

[boutons_deux]

+1

As a veteran, I think ...

you're a veteran?

Vets aren't a special class of people, with privileges, rights beyond any other citizen

A huge number of vets have their emotional motivations in the right place, but are horribly misinformed about why the politicians sent them into war.

Has fuck all to with defending America or the Constitution, or spreading peace and democracy.

Rightwingnuts, Christian Taliban only want self-defined "freedom" for themselves, and are very energetic, relentless in blocking other peoples' rights.

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/nfl-executive-traitor-colin-kaepernick-don-t-want-150020910.html

NFL Executive on ‘Traitor’ Colin Kaepernick: ‘I Don’t Want Him Anywhere Near My Team’


maybe he could move to Canada and play football there

[ducks]

NFL executive said he hasn’t seen level of front office dislike for Colin Kaepernick since Rae Carruth

http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/8/31/12726228/nfl-general-managers-colin-kaepernick-traitor-rae-carruth

[TheSanityAnnex]

He can sit if he damn well pleases. And people can curse his name if they damn well please too.
This is basically what it all comes down to, as it should. Been amusing watching both sides regardless.

[Quetzal-X]

you're a veteran?

Vets aren't a special class of people, with privileges, rights beyond any other citizen

A huge number of vets have their emotional motivations in the right place, but are horribly misinformed about why the politicians sent them into war.

Has fuck all to with defending America or the Constitution, or spreading peace and democracy.

Rightwingnuts, Christian Taliban only want self-defined "freedom" for themselves, and are very energetic, relentless in blocking other peoples' rights.



100% ThAAts fuckin A right !

[TheSanityAnnex]

Tomorrows game at San Diego should be entertaining considering its military appreciation night. I may go just to hear the boos.

[pgardn]

If he played for me he has already been told.

Avante....you will stand for our National Anthem, if ya don't you are gone and I've called around, you will not be playing in the NFL, do we have an understanding?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'd love to see some big lineman..."my dad died defending this country ya skinny little shit, you will stand or I will kick your ass, ok".

If Colin could actually play the position he could recite Mao's Little Red book and fans around the league would start buying it. You just don't get it.

[mingus]

We don't want millionaire athletes speaking publicly about politics.

That's for billionaire businessmen hiding behind super PACs.

To be fair, think if you take the last incidents of political controversies started by white guy athletes or former athlete (I'm referring to Schilling who was fired by ESPN & Tim Tebow who has constantly gotten put down by social "justice" warriors), the media actually tend to be more protective of a guy like Kaepernick, even though the whole premise of his actions & beliefs is pretty moronic, & given his celebrity status pretty consequential. The media protects him because he buys their excrement. And kids who don't know any better view him an authority on this shit. Right now, there are undoubtedly inner city kids & adolescents watching this who don't know any better & are buying what he's selling w/o giving it any serious thought. They'll go through their days blaming the system "oppression" for their failures.

And the system isn't perfect. It's never going to be perfect.

So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them? Taking personal accountability? Not relying on the govt. to rescue you, when you're perfectly capable of overcoming those challenges on your own? Isn't that what life is about for most everyone?

[boutons_deux]

So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them?

how do blacks "jump over the hurdles" of being harassed, brutalized, slaughtered by the cops? of systemic racism? of nderfunded schools? of no "equal opportunity" in the face of white privilege? of the "social injustice war" the blacks are losing?

So the problem is on the blacks? :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

Right now, there are undoubtedly inner city kids & adolescents watching this who don't know any better & are buying what he's selling w/o giving it any serious thought. They'll go through their days blaming the system "oppression" for their failures.

I'm not sure that's an unassailable point. If Kaepernick's basic grievance is that cops kill black dudes and face no consequences for doing so (which is where he was when this started), a kid in a ghetto doesn't need Kaepernick to tell him that's true; he likely sees it and often. From the standpoint of black lives lost at the hands of bad cops being treated as something akin collateral damage as a symbol of continued oppression, Kaepernick is merely highlighting the problem through a relatively unique public forum (and he's succeeded wildly in at least making this an issue that has gotten widespread discussion). He's not specifically articulating an issue for someone who would otherwise be unaware of it.


And the system isn't perfect. It's never going to be perfect.

It's funny how white folks are perfectly willing to accept the imperfections in the system and tell others who more directly feel the brunt of those imperfections to just accept them. I'm also not sure why -- if we recognize that there are specific imperfections in the system -- we wouldn't at least explore the possibility of correcting them. Unless, of course, those with power don't really care to actually correct those imperfections.


So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them? Taking personal accountability? Not relying on the govt. to rescue you, when you're perfectly capable of overcoming those challenges on your own? Isn't that what life is about for most everyone?

Are you saying that nobody ever encourages kids in socio-economically disadvantaged areas to persevere, to take responsibility for themselves? I think that's happening every day in virtually every impoverished community in America. A significant problem in those communities is that even when kids are taught those lessons and try to live into them, they still struggle to get out of the ghetto or the barrio and ultimately realize that no matter how persistent and self-reliant you might be, a fact of American life in 2016 is that many (most?) of those who come from poverty are destined to remain there specifically because "the system" tends to best serve those who have the power. And we tend to systematically deprive poor folks from ever really attaining any real power to change the system.

[boutons_deux]

"take responsibility for themselves"

dog whistle alert:

knitters are lazy, irresponsible, cheats, and genetically inferior. Society (we white taxpayers) has given black kids exactly the same opportunity as white kids in well-financed public schools, provided a stress-free, neighborhoods, full of successful black role models, kept safe by white honest, fair, sympathetic cops who shoot blacks dead only after all attempts to de-escalate have failed. So if blacks fail at life, it's all on them.

[mingus]

I'm not sure that's an unassailable point. If Kaepernick's basic grievance is that cops kill black dudes and face no consequences for doing so (which is where he was when this started), a kid in a ghetto doesn't need Kaepernick to tell him that's true; he likely sees it and often. From the standpoint of black lives lost at the hands of bad cops being treated as something akin collateral damage as a symbol of continued oppression, Kaepernick is merely highlighting the problem through a relatively unique public forum (and he's succeeded wildly in at least making this an issue that has gotten widespread discussion). He's not specifically articulating an issue for someone who would otherwise be unaware of it.

For me there's just so much more as a country that we can/should do to help with what's going on in alot of these African American communities. Kaepernik isn't thinking for himself. He's clearly paying attention to what he sees being covered by the media, & as we can see he's gobbled it all up.

Like they say, context is everything. If the main goal here is, as it should be, to help underachieving communities, we're doing a shitty job of providing what people SEE w/ context & fair analysis. What people see is less of a concern than how they make sense of it all.


It's funny how white folks are perfectly willing to accept the imperfections in the system and tell others who more directly feel the brunt of those imperfections to just accept them. I'm also not sure why -- if we recognize that there are specific imperfections in the system -- we wouldn't at least explore the possibility of correcting them. Unless, of course, those with power don't really care to actually correct those imperfections.

You had to reach far into your ass for you to characterize my attitude on this shit as one of dismissiveness. One because it's insulting & false and two because it's just plain wrong & dumb. All I'm calling for is a fair distribution of focus & balance when it comes to coverage. From where you're standing--hyperfocused on a couple issues, just a couple of pieces of the pie when it comes to the current multi-faceted plight of a lot of African-Americans. I'm not dismissive at all, I'm just aware that there are in addition to this issue of cops using lethal force too unscrupulously against citizens, esp. Blacks), which make no mistake has to be dealt with, there are other issues surrounding the African-American community that have to be addressed & have our attention as well. Of course, this is the realistic, commonsensical approach. The media & politicians, both left & right, don't want to assess our reality for what is, they'd rather paint one of their own & swindle the masses into buying it.

So yea, your whole premise for my dismissiveness is just made up, stupid & insulting.


Are you saying that nobody ever encourages kids in socio-economically disadvantaged areas to persevere, to take responsibility for themselves? I think that's happening every day in virtually every impoverished community in America. A significant problem in those communities is that even when kids are taught those lessons and try to live into them, they still struggle to get out of the ghetto or the barrio and ultimately realize that no matter how persistent and self-reliant you might be, a fact of American life in 2016 is that many (most?) of those who come from poverty are destined to remain there specifically because "the system" tends to best serve those who have the power. And we tend to systematically deprive poor folks from ever really attaining any real power to change the system.

It's not encourged by the media is what I'm saying. It's also not encouraged by politicians. The left has its talking points, the right has its own. It's either this way or the other way. It's bullshit. And Kaepernik is now a cog--a big one bec. of his celebrity--in peddling that bullshit. And they're on the left & right.

I get that their is cause for investigation into this particular issue. I also get can't understand that for the better part of what maybe two years now, pretty much all we've heard about in terms of the different problems facing black communities is this issue of unwarranted use of deadly force by white cops toward black people.

A big issue no doubt, but the media has used it to define in narrow terms the black experience by giving it the first 10 rows of seats. It's not that it's untrue, it's that its place in the narrative, authored by the media & politicians, is problematic.

[clambake]

ok, on a lighter note.......pretty funny what that police assoc. exec said about the league.


roger is probably looking to kill kaepernick.

[Trill Clinton]

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Welp, he put his money where his mouth is. Will his critics and the rest of the PC bro? Nope

[angrydude]

The outrage is so stupid. This isn't north korea where you have to worship the state. IMO the pledge, anthem, all that patriotism crap is fine if that thing is for you. But to shame someone with it is just fascist and demonstrates your complete ignorance of what freedom actually means. Not that America is free at all. That just makes the irony all the more delicious.

[Reck]

Like I said pages ago. Power move.

Now he has other players taking a knee and not standing up. :lol

[Th'Pusher]

The outrage is so stupid. This isn't north korea where you have to worship the state. IMO the pledge, anthem, all that patriotism crap is fine if that thing is for you. But to shame someone with it is just fascist and demonstrates your complete ignorance of what freedom actually means. Not that Aimerica is free at all. That just makes the irony all the more delicious.

You were doing so well...until you made that ridiculous statement.

[Winehole23]

There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.

[pgardn]

http://www.ksat.com/sports/former-uiw-current-nfl-player-plans-to-sit-out-national-anthem-along-with-kaepernick

oh shit I'm standing....

[boutons_deux]

Internet racists melt down after ‘resentful mulatto’ Obama defends Kaepernick’s right to protestPresident Barack Obama came out in defense of San Francisco 49er Colin Kaepernick, saying the quarterback was “exercising his constitutional right to make a statement” by not standing for the Star-Spangled Banner, before adding, ““I think he cares about some real legitimate issues that have to be talked about. If nothing else what he’s done is he’s generated more conversation around some topics that need to be talked about.”

< tweets about MULE-otto, half-breed knitter >

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/internet-racists-melt-down-after-resentful-mulatto-obama-defends-kaepernicks-right-to-protest/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[RandomGuy]

If he played for me he has already been told.

Avante....you will stand for our National Anthem, if ya don't you are gone and I've called around, you will not be playing in the NFL, do we have an understanding?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'd love to see some big lineman..."my dad died defending this country ya skinny little shit, you will stand or I will kick your ass, ok".

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/nc-4th.pdf


After years of preclearance and expansion of voting access,
by 2013 African American registration and turnout rates had
finally reached near-parity with white registration and turnout
rates. African Americans were poised to act as a major
electoral force. But, on the day after the Supreme Court issued
Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct. 2612 (2013), eliminating
preclearance obligations, a leader of the party that newly
dominated the legislature (and the party that rarely enjoyed
African American support) announced an intention to enact what
he characterized as an “omnibus” election law. Before enacting
that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of
a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data,
the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting
and registration in five different ways, all of which
disproportionately affected African Americans.

[boutons_deux]

Fox Sports commentator rips Kaepernick protest: Getting killed by police is ‘damn near impossible’

“And if you don’t run from ’em, it’s damn near impossible.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/fox-sports-commentator-rips-kaepernick-protest-getting-killed-by-police-is-damn-near-impossible/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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marshall of denver lost one endorsement I am sure more losing endorsements are coming

[boutons_deux]

Here's what Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior would do

Pastor: Those Who Don’t Stand for Anthem Should Let Military ‘Take a Few Shots’ at Them


http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/pastor-those-who-dont-stand-for-anthem-should-let-military-take-a-few-shots-at-them/

[pgardn]

marshall of denver lost one endorsement I am sure more losing endorsements are coming

This article is a much better example of truly having skin in the game.

http://www.ksat.com/sports/former-uiw-current-nfl-player-plans-to-sit-out-national-anthem-along-with-kaepernick

[boutons_deux]

Cops don't GAF, they will keep slaughtering blacks.

[CosmicCowboy]

Cops don't GAF, they will keep slaughtering blacks.

bookaki's hysterical hyperbole.

you suck

[boutons_deux]

A raised fist, more kneeling players as NFL anthem protest spreads
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-anthem-idUSKCN11H0LA

[boutons_deux]

bookaki's hysterical hyperbole.

you suck

Cops don't GAF, they will keep slaughtering blacks.

and CC will cheer them on, because he's a hardcore racist.

[CosmicCowboy]

Cops don't GAF, they will keep slaughtering blacks.

and CC will cheer them on, because he's a hardcore racist.




Bookaki has a fucked up and distorted definition of racism where supporting the 99.999% of good cops makes you a "hard core racist".

[Trill Clinton]

Why don't the 99.99% ever turn in the bad ones? Oh yea

[CosmicCowboy]

Why don't the 99.99% ever turn in the bad ones? Oh yea

They do. Happens a lot.

[Trill Clinton]

They do. Happens a lot.

Proof?

[CosmicCowboy]

Proof?

*sigh*

lazy fuck

quick look

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/department-good-cops-bad-cop-homeless-man/
http://theantimedia.org/good-cops-cross-thin-blue-line-in-florida-turn-on-bad-cops/
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/04/police-cadet-turns-cop-turning/

[Trill Clinton]

And I think over 60% of them are bad. Too many civil suits, fbi intervention, fbi said kkk are in many departments...it's a mess.

[Trill Clinton]

*sigh*

lazy fuck

quick look

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/department-good-cops-bad-cop-homeless-man/
http://theantimedia.org/good-cops-cross-thin-blue-line-in-florida-turn-on-bad-cops/
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/04/police-cadet-turns-cop-turning/

Cool thanks!

[313]

I stopped pledging allegiance in like 8th grade. Didn't think it was a big deal til now. Yikes.

[boutons_deux]

How many vids have we seen, going back to Rodney King, were 6 or 8 of CC's good cops beat the shit out of their prey?

Remember the guy running away on the horse out in CA? Cops' own helicopter caught about 6 or 7 cops slugging and kicking the shit out the guy.

Cop SOP: if I don'ts shoot you dead for running away, then when I catch you, good me and my fellow good cops will ruin you, for the Federal crime of running away.

[ducks]

clinton said blacks were super predators

[CosmicCowboy]

How many vids have we seen, going back to Rodney King, were 6 or 8 of CC's good cops beat the shit out of their prey?

Remember the guy running away on the horse out in CA? Cops' own helicopter caught about 6 or 7 cops slugging and kicking the shit out the guy.

Cop SOP: if I don'ts shoot you dead for running away, then when I catch you, good me and my fellow good cops will ruin you, for the Federal crime of running away.

meh. Don't resist arrest and you won't get your ass beat.

[boutons_deux]

meh. Don't resist arrest and you won't get your ass beat.

Yep, CC, that exemplary American, thinks resisting arrest, being mentally disturbed, justifies getting tased, sent to the hospital with often PERMANENT damage, getting your back broken, or shot dead.

[clambake]

you crazy, boo

[xrayzebra]

Cops don't GAF, they will keep slaughtering blacks.

and CC will cheer them on, because he's a hardcore racist.




You just cant stop stupid. boutons_deux is a proven dyed in the wool stupid individual.

[boutons_deux]

High School Football Players Across the U.S. Join Kaepernick, Refuse to Stand for National Anthem

getting far less attention are the high school football players across the United States, who, inspired by Kaepernick, are refusing to stand during the national anthem to protest racism and inequality. Many of those leading the protests are black and brown students who have grown up with images of young people who look like them being shot and killed by police.

Coaches and most members of the South Jersey Tigers high school football team, Woodrow Wilson, knelt during the national anthem on Saturday. “I am well aware of the third verse of the national anthem which is not usually sung, and I know that the words of the song were not originally meant to include people like me," Tigers coach Preston Brown told (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Camden-Football-Team-Coaches-Kneel-During-National-Anthem-District-Supports-Expression-393009511.html) NBC 10 on Saturday.

The third stanza states, “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave."

As the Intercept's Jon Schwartz pointed out (https://theintercept.com/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-is-righter-than-you-know-the-national-anthem-is-a-celebration-of-slavery/), Francis Scott Key wrote those words during the war of 1812, in direct reference to U.S. slaves who fought for the British, “who accepted everyone and pledged no one would be given back to their ‘owners.’"

Schwartz continues: “So when Key penned ‘No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,’

he was taking great satisfaction in the death of slaves who’d freed themselves. His perspective may have been affected by the fact he owned several slaves himself.”

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/high-school-football-players-across-us-join-kaepernick-refuse-stand-national-anthem

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http://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/12/brandon-marshall-loses-endorsement-national-anthem-kneel/
Brandon Marshall loses another endorsement, says he will kneel again for national anthem


has he even helped outside his bosses time

oh good he is going going to talk to the white chief of police and straighten them out:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

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BurningBrule • 9 hours ago
Hey Marshall, for someone who wants to promote "positivity" you sure have a strange way of going about it. Why not redouble any efforts of working within the Black community to promote positive changes in education, upward advancement, cultural awareness and a goal of Black men stepping up and becoming fathers and husbands.

[ducks]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-conflict-within-49ers-organization-about-colin-kaepernick/ar-BBwafUk?li=BBnb7Kz

Might get cut

[spurraider21]

And I think over 60% of them are bad.


Proof?

[boutons_deux]

Native American Student’s Grade Docked for Refusing to Say Pledge of Allegiance: 'My People Risked Our Lives for Our Land, for Our Freedom'

Starting in second grade, California high school student Leilani Thomas has been refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States.

For years, she told Sacramento ABC affiliate KXTV (http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/students-grades-lowered-for-sitting-during-pledge-of-allegiance/319009465?cid=abcn_tco), she’s been quietly affirming her First Amendment right to free speech, a right encompassing the freedom to dissent, to critique the powerful, to think and act as a self-determined human being.

Thomas is also Native American.

As such, she has expressed complex feelings regarding the United States and its flag. Until now, however, there has been no incident, no controversy, no media coverage of steadfast actions borne of personal conviction. She is not a politician stumping for vote, or a selfie star hoping to gain followers. She is a teenage girl trying to make it through the social gauntlet of high school.

And so Thomas sits during the Pledge of Allegiance recited daily at her school. She has done so for years without incident, garnering no press, and provoking no backlash from authorities. Not until this week.

“She told me I was being disrespectful and I was pretty mad,” Thomas said (http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/students-grades-lowered-for-sitting-during-pledge-of-allegiance/319009465?cid=abcn_tco) of her teacher at Lower Lake High School. “She was being disrespectful to me also, saying I was making bad choices, and I don’t have the choice to sit during the pledge.”

In a different interview, Thomas affirmed (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/13/superintendent-backs-lower-lake-teen-who-refused-to-pledge-allegiance/) that

her teacher “says that it [the flag] represents the military and that they risked their lives for us…

And I always tell her, ‘Well, my people risked our lives for our land, for our freedom. For our rights’.”

The teacher punished Thomas and an unnamed friend who’d likewise refused to say the pledge, by reducing their participation grade in her class. Other schools are adopting a similarly authoritarian stance and insisting that all students pledge allegiance — or else.

But Thomas’ teacher was wrong on two counts.

The flag does not represent the military, and

Thomas does have the choice, as well as the right, to sit during the pledge.
http://www.alternet.org/activism/native-american-students-grade-docked-refusing-say-pledge-allegiance-my-people-risked-our

Criminalizing dissent, just like you rightwingnuts want. Conform, or be punished.

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/yahoo-poll-half-of-americans-oppose-kaepernicks-protest-154103124.html
32% SUPPORT HIM ALL GROUPS
IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN ONLY 24% WHITES SUPPORT HIM

[Aztecfan03]

Native American Student’s Grade Docked for Refusing to Say Pledge of Allegiance: 'My People Risked Our Lives for Our Land, for Our Freedom'

Starting in second grade, California high school student Leilani Thomas has been refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States.

For years, she told Sacramento ABC affiliate KXTV (http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/students-grades-lowered-for-sitting-during-pledge-of-allegiance/319009465?cid=abcn_tco), she’s been quietly affirming her First Amendment right to free speech, a right encompassing the freedom to dissent, to critique the powerful, to think and act as a self-determined human being.

Thomas is also Native American.

As such, she has expressed complex feelings regarding the United States and its flag. Until now, however, there has been no incident, no controversy, no media coverage of steadfast actions borne of personal conviction. She is not a politician stumping for vote, or a selfie star hoping to gain followers. She is a teenage girl trying to make it through the social gauntlet of high school.

And so Thomas sits during the Pledge of Allegiance recited daily at her school. She has done so for years without incident, garnering no press, and provoking no backlash from authorities. Not until this week.

“She told me I was being disrespectful and I was pretty mad,” Thomas said (http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/students-grades-lowered-for-sitting-during-pledge-of-allegiance/319009465?cid=abcn_tco) of her teacher at Lower Lake High School. “She was being disrespectful to me also, saying I was making bad choices, and I don’t have the choice to sit during the pledge.”

In a different interview, Thomas affirmed (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/13/superintendent-backs-lower-lake-teen-who-refused-to-pledge-allegiance/) that

her teacher “says that it [the flag] represents the military and that they risked their lives for us…

And I always tell her, ‘Well, my people risked our lives for our land, for our freedom. For our rights’.”

The teacher punished Thomas and an unnamed friend who’d likewise refused to say the pledge, by reducing their participation grade in her class. Other schools are adopting a similarly authoritarian stance and insisting that all students pledge allegiance — or else.

But Thomas’ teacher was wrong on two counts.

The flag does not represent the military, and

Thomas does have the choice, as well as the right, to sit during the pledge.
http://www.alternet.org/activism/native-american-students-grade-docked-refusing-say-pledge-allegiance-my-people-risked-our

Criminalizing dissent, just like you rightwingnuts want. Conform, or be punished.




I think you need to look up what the word criminalizing means.

[boutons_deux]

I think you need to look up what the word criminalizing means.

I think you need to look up what ankle-biting means.

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gee it took him long enough
I wonder what he would be doing without his girllfriend

[TheGreatYacht]

Kaepernick is an American hero. The only people against him support an unpatriotic draft dodging pussy.

[Aztecfan03]

Kaepernick is an American hero. The only people against him support an unpatriotic draft dodging pussy.
fuck kaepernick. fuck trump. fuck hillary.

[Trill Clinton]

Kaepernick is an American hero. The only people against him support an unpatriotic draft dodging pussy.

Truth. A disabled black man was killed in his car while reading a book. This is why kaepernick protested. The main ones telling him to shut up haven't done nor said a word to help prevent police brutality. A bunch of fake Patriots.

[DarrinS]

Truth. A disabled black man was killed in his car while reading a book. This is why kaepernick protested. The main ones telling him to shut up haven't done nor said a word to help prevent police brutality. A bunch of fake Patriots.

No book was found, but a gun was.

But Kaepernick's protests aren't hurting anyone. I'd rather people do that than burn, loot, or throw bricks.

[Trill Clinton]

No book was found, but a gun was.

But Kaepernick's protests aren't hurting anyone. I'd rather people do that than burn, loot, or throw bricks.

Charlotte is an open carry state.

What have you done to support the prevention of police brutality and systematic racism

[ducks]

Fans Won't Watch Games If Protests Continue


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/yahoo-poll-half-of-americans-oppose-kaepernicks-protest-154103124.html

[DarrinS]

Charlotte is an open carry state.

What have you done to support the prevention of police brutality and systematic racism


Here's how you open carry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnV6mYu7TI

[TheSanityAnnex]

Truth. A disabled black man was killed in his car while reading a book. This is why kaepernick protested. The main ones telling him to shut up haven't done nor said a word to help prevent police brutality. A bunch of fake Patriots.

Not truth. Cmon man :lol


Tulsa was bad for sure, but coming out of your car armed and not putting the weapon down when repeatedly ordered to? And your open carry argument is weak as well, plenty of idiots both white and black do it every day and don't get shot.


You need to step up your race baiting game, this was weak.

[Trill Clinton]

Not truth. Cmon man :lol


Tulsa was bad for sure, but coming out of your car armed and not putting the weapon down when repeatedly ordered to? And your open carry argument is weak as well, plenty of idiots both white and black do it every day and don't get shot.


You need to step up your race baiting game, this was weak.

do you have proof of all of that other than the officers word? sorry but i've seen too many cases of police planting evidence and flat out lying on suspects. i don't believe anything they say. like i said, its an open carry state and its always us blacks who own guns legally that get gunned down. philando, john crawford and now keith scott(who was waiting for his son to get off a school bus).

its a shame we can't practice our 2nd amendment rights in peace. cops see us with guns and assume the worst and kill us. and salute to that brotha who called you white devils out...its the truth. y'all love our culture but dont love or care about us or the issues we face, very devilish behavior indeed.

[Trill Clinton]

salute to lynch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTo4xst_x0

[Trill Clinton]

Here's how you open carry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnV6mYu7TI

he called the police because someone was breaking into his vehicle. your example doesn't make sense.

what have you done to support the prevention of police brutatlity and systematic racism?

[boutons_deux]

Fans Won't Watch Games If Protests Continue


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/yahoo-poll-half-of-americans-oppose-kaepernicks-protest-154103124.html

Great, the only way to get anything done in USA is hurt somebody's profits.

[Trill Clinton]

gee it took him long enough
I wonder what he would be doing without his girllfriend

when are you and the rest of the patriots going to follow his lead and donate to communities and families affected by police brutality and systematic racism?

778718923206168576

[boutons_deux]

... and the slaughter of black continues unabated.

[ducks]

black cop killed the black guy

[ducks]

oh and trump said he was very troubled in this last one. He said it looked like the guy was doing what he was suppose to be doing

[boutons_deux]

oh and trump said he was very troubled in this last one. He said it looked like the guy was doing what he was suppose to be doing

Trash is liar, doesn't GAF about blacks.

[pgardn]

oh and trump said he was very troubled in this last one. He said it looked like the guy was doing what he was suppose to be doing

Again Trump proves himself a gigantic idiot.

The Tulsa police chief says it is clear certain protocol was not followed. He also said the officers have been interviewed separately and whether the guy was following directions appears unclear as conversation was not recorded. There is NO reliable voice data on this. (Another part of not following protocol) There is evidence that the cops have given some inaccurate accounts.

Trump again just spews shit out of his mouth.

[TheSanityAnnex]

do you have proof of all of that other than the officers word? sorry but i've seen too many cases of police planting evidence and flat out lying on suspects. i don't believe anything they say. like i said, its an open carry state and its always us blacks who own guns legally that get gunned down. philando, john crawford and now keith scott(who was waiting for his son to get off a school bus). where is your proof he was just reading a book? Only people who have said that have been his family while multiple independent witnesses said he had a handgun and refused to disarm. It's not always blacks who own guns legally and get gunned down. People of all races while legally armed are gunned down by cops. It is just blacks that take to the streets and riot and loot before the facts come out ex: Mike Brown and now Keith Scott


its a shame we can't practice our 2nd amendment rights in peace. cops see us with guns and assume the worst and kill us. and salute to that brotha who called you white devils out...its the truth. y'all love our culture but dont love or care about us or the issues we face, very devilish behavior indeed.i do agree cops see blacks with guns and assume the worst, I don't agree with them but can understand where they are coming from considering the amount of gun violence coming out of the black community. You can practice your 2nd amendment rights in peace, tons of black people do it every day and are not shot. But knowing how cops view blacks unfortunately makes you have to comply even more with their demands if you are confronted by them and are armed. Is it fair? No. But it's just how it is. I'm 100% sure when you are armed and confronted by a cop you would comply with their orders.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Again Trump proves himself a gigantic idiot.

The Tulsa police chief says it is clear certain protocol was not followed. He also said the officers have been interviewed separately and whether the guy was following directions appears unclear as conversation was not recorded. There is NO reliable voice data on this. (Another part of not following protocol) There is evidence that the cops have given some inaccurate accounts.

Trump again just spews shit out of his mouth.
Uh...Trump said the guy who got shot didn't look like he did anything wrong. How does that make him a gigantic idiot? The majority of people who have seen the video said the same, are we all gigantic idiots too?

[SnakeBoy]

Again Trump proves himself a gigantic idiot.

The Tulsa police chief says it is clear certain protocol was not followed. He also said the officers have been interviewed separately and whether the guy was following directions appears unclear as conversation was not recorded. There is NO reliable voice data on this. (Another part of not following protocol) There is evidence that the cops have given some inaccurate accounts.

Trump again just spews shit out of his mouth.

:lol

https://theoverlookedonlookers.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/point_missed.gif

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs6F7UGUkAA3Iew.jpg:large

[TheGreatYacht]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs6F7UGUkAA3Iew.jpg:large
Kerr with the truth bomb.

His players are smart as well....

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[boutons_deux]

... and the slaughter of blacks continues unabated.

[TheSanityAnnex]

... and the slaughter of blacks continues unabated.

Agreed...they really should stop killing each other at such astonishing rates.

[boutons_deux]

Agreed...they really should stop killing each other at such astonishing rates.

hell no, you racist rightwingnus are supportive of cops and blacks slaughtering blacks.

It's conceivable that the racist NRA/BigGun LOVES that their perversion of the 2nd Amendment flooded guns into the hands of blacks to kill blacks, and scared the shit out of whites into buying Mo' Guns.

[cd021]

Agreed...they really should stop killing each other at such astonishing rates.

You're really going black on black crime when it's been proven to be a misnomer:lol. people of the same race live closer to each other and tend to commit crime in the same general area in which they live. Its why Hispanic on Hispanic crime and white on white crime is so high.

Maybe you should focus on Trump and his long history of racism and his moronic takes on helping blacks by bringing back stop and frisk, which was overwhelmingly unsuccessful and later determined to be unconstitutional.

[boutons_deux]

You're really going black on black crime when it's been proven to be a misnomer:lol. people of the same race live closer to each other and tend to commit crime in the same general area in which they live. Its why Hispanic on Hispanic crime and white on white crime is so high.

Maybe you should focus on Trump and his long history of racism and his moronic takes on helping blacks by bringing back stop and frisk, which was overwhelmingly unsuccessful and later determined to be unconstitutional.

.... and white kill more whites, than blacks kill blacks.

[TheSanityAnnex]

.... and white kill more whites, than blacks kill blacks.
Yet black males make up 7.5% of the population and committ 50% of homocides.

What % of the population do white males make up and what % of the homicides do they committ?

[boutons_deux]

Yet black males make up 7.5% of the population and committ 50% of homocides.

What % of the population do white males make up and what % of the homicides do they committ?

yes, black criminality is all black's fault, because they, as genetic animals with exactly the same opportunities as whites, are predisposed to violence, poverty, laziness, cheating.

[TheSanityAnnex]

yes, black criminality is all black's fault, because they, as genetic animals with exactly the same opportunities as whites, are predisposed to violence, poverty, laziness, cheating.

There are more whites living in poverty than blacks. Try another excuse.

[boutons_deux]

There are more whites living in poverty than blacks. Try another excuse.

you racist rightwingnuts concentrate trashing blacks as lazy, cheating, Welfare Queen in Cadillacs, but say nothing about poor whites

[TheSanityAnnex]

you racist rightwingnuts concentrate trashing blacks as lazy, cheating, Welfare Queen in Cadillacs, but say nothing about poor whites

Are whites in poverty committing homicides at the same rate as blacks living in poverty?

[boutons_deux]

Are whites in poverty committing homicides at the same rate as blacks living in poverty?

no, poor whites are the one committing suicide, abusing drugs and alcohol, because your rightwingnut Repugs/VRWC have screwed their present and future.

that blacks commit homicides isn't the primary reason for trashing by Repugs/Fox/rightwing hate media.

[cd021]

Yet black males make up 7.5% of the population and committ 50% of homocides.

What % of the population do white males make up and what % of the homicides do they committ?

So are you suggesting blacks are naturally more agressive? What percentage of the mass murders/ serial killers are white?

[mingus]

There are more whites living in poverty than blacks. Try another excuse.

You really know absolutely nothing about any of this shit dude. LOL

You're gun-clutching good little white boy that doesn't know a damn thing about gang violence, what breeds it & why it persists.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You really know absolutely nothing about any of this shit dude. LOL

You're gun-clutching good little white boy that doesn't know a damn thing about gang violence, what breeds it & why it persists.

You are supporting my position. Poverty alone doesn't breed violence.


And this gun-clutching good little white boy grew up in Los Angeles and Long Beach, I know plenty and have seen enough gang violence first hand, glad I moved.

[mingus]

You are supporting my position. Poverty alone doesn't breed violence.


And this gun-clutching good little white boy grew up in Los Angeles and Long Beach, I know plenty and have seen enough gang violence first hand, glad I moved.

Yeah, growing up in LA, or even in bad neighborhoods, doesn't necessarily mean you know shit either. Having grown up around all that stuff, I can tell you that first hand. Some of the kids who weren't involved with that stuff in my neighborhood were sheltered as fuck from it by their parents, which I don't blame them for doing. But it also made some of them clueless as hell. Where you grow up doesn't necessarily tell me a damn thing about what you know. It's more about how you grew up, and the fact that you'd use the former as some kind of retarded ass assurance that you know wtf your talking about here, actually shows me the exact opposite.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Yeah, growing up in LA, or even in bad neighborhoods, doesn't necessarily mean you know shit either. Having grown up around all that stuff, I can tell you that first hand. Some of the kids who weren't involved with that stuff in my neighborhood were sheltered as fuck from it by their parents, which I don't blame them for doing. But it also made some of them clueless as hell. Where you grow up doesn't necessarily tell me a damn thing about what you know. It's more about how you grew up, and the fact that you'd use the former as some kind of retarded ass assurance that you know wtf your talking about here, actually shows me the exact opposite.
Is this where we exchange pictures of our gang tats and brag about how many childhood friends we lost to gang violence? 3 here by the way.

[ducks]

Kerr with the truth bomb.

His players are smart as well....

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there was a thread in here about curry support for Clinton

[mingus]

Is this where we exchange pictures of our gang tats and brag about how many childhood friends we lost to gang violence? 3 here by the way.

Maybe I jumped the gun w/ u--no pun intended. Maybe you know what you are talking about--I truly don't know. I don't know. I was a troubled as fuck kid who did some really fucked up things that I still think about everyday. It's just that there are way too many people--a lot of them gun-clutchers--who really have no idea what they're talking about as it concerns this topic. If I jumped the gun, then I apologize.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Maybe I jumped the gun w/ u--no pun intended. Maybe you know what you are talking about--I truly don't know. I don't know. I was a troubled as fuck kid who did some really fucked up things that I still think about everyday. It's just that there are way too many people--a lot of them gun-clutchers--who really have no idea what they're talking about as it concerns this topic. If I jumped the gun, then I apologize.

No worries man. I don't have any gang tats, but I do have asphalt scars on my face from a bike crash that people always ask if they are teardrops lol. I stayed out of trouble myself but had more than a few friends/acquaintances that got caught up in all that. Three dead and a couple still in prison.

[mingus]

No worries man. I don't have any gang tats, but I do have asphalt scars on my face from a bike crash that people always ask if they are teardrops lol. I stayed out of trouble myself but had more than a few friends/acquaintances that got caught up in all that. Three dead and a couple still in prison.

At least u came out of it okay man--but be careful LOL.

It's just tough trying to get people to understand how fucked someone is psychologically from experiencing all that shit on a daily basis, as victim & perpetrator. It wasn't until I had to confront my inner-demons by fortunate circumstance alone that I came to realize/know what I had & was living with all along was PTSD. And that when you have it (& it resurfaces sometimes when I don't stay on top of myself), nothing really makes any sense.

[TheSanityAnnex]

At least u came out of it okay man--but be careful LOL.

It's just tough trying to get people to understand how fucked someone is psychologically from experiencing all that shit on a daily basis, as victim & perpetrator. It wasn't until I had to confront my inner-demons by fortunate circumstance alone that I came to realize/know what I had & was living with all along was PTSD. And that when you have it (& it resurfaces sometimes when I don't stay on top of myself), nothing really makes any sense.
Shit man best of luck moving forward if those thoughts pop up in the future. I'm 35 now so my days of getting in trouble are behind me. Still here some stories of old friends still fucked up, couple of OD's and guys still hooked on oxy's/heroin.

[mingus]

Shit man best of luck moving forward if those thoughts pop up in the future. I'm 35 now so my days of getting in trouble are behind me. Still here some stories of old friends still fucked up, couple of OD's and guys still hooked on oxy's/heroin.

Appreciate it, man.

It's a daily struggle for anyone who grew up seriously fucked up, & some people just don't (can't ?) understand how devastating traumatic experiences growing up can be on a person, subconsciously & consciously. The only way I can put it is that juvenile/prison is the second prison you're in, if you get put in there. The first prison is your head. And if you get lucky like I did, you actually recognize it is a prison.

[ducks]

Doc Rivers calls anthem protests “the most patriotic thing we can do”

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/fdde9e72-7ea9-3692-88d5-1bce7fb52a6d/ss_doc-rivers-calls-anthem.html

[ducks]

Nba players have to stand
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/gregg-popovich-on-national-anthem-protesters-i-respect-their-courage/

[ducks]

Is Mark Cuban's 'hogs get slaughtered' comment about NFL becoming true
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/is-mark-cubans-hogs-get-slaughtered-comment-about-nfl-becoming-true-215057982.html

[ducks]

Matt Barnes says he’s been warned for chewing gum, using bathroom during national anthem

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/10/01/matt-barnes-says-hes-been-warned-for-chewing-gum-using-bathroom-during-national-anthem/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs&yptr=yahoo

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

smh when SAWM's wanna be monkeyballers

782690415254331396

oh wait

http://i.imgur.com/uiaiRjB.jpg

[Sportcamper]

How boring is the National Anthem when people are thinking “I wonder what the backup to the backup quarterback of the 49ers is doing right now”….SNL…:lol

[Sportcamper]

Remember streaking & Morganna “The Kissing Bandit of Baseball…This nation used to have a sense of humor…

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByUhSFtIQAAcWAR.jpg

[clambake]

smh when SAWM's wanna be monkeyballers

782690415254331396

oh wait

http://i.imgur.com/uiaiRjB.jpg:lol

[spurraider21]

Justice Ginsburg's opinion of the Kaep thing... mirrors the point of view I expressed on the issue earlier


When asked by Couric how she feels about San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, and others athletes, refusing to stand for the anthem, Ginsburg replied, “I think it’s really dumb of them.”“Would I arrest them for doing it? No,” Ginsburg elaborated. “I think it’s dumb and disrespectful. I would have the same answer if you asked me about flag burning. I think it’s a terrible thing to do, but I wouldn’t lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.”

Couric then asked, “But when it comes to these football players, you may find their actions offensive, but what you’re saying is, it’s within their rights to exercise those actions?”
“Yes,” said Ginsburg. “If they want to be stupid, there’s no law that should be preventive. If they want to be arrogant, there’s no law that prevents them from that. What I would do is strongly take issue with the point of view that they are expressing when they do that.”

https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-trump-kaepernick-and-her-lifelong-love-of-the-law-132236633.html

[spurraider21]

i'm not denying his right to be a dipshit.

but he is a dipshit

[spurraider21]

ginsburg now walking back her comment... seems to be a habit of hers nowadays :lol

[boutons_deux]

ginsburg now walking back her comment... seems to be a habit of hers nowadays :lol

what else has she walked back?

[spurraider21]

what else has she walked back?
trump comments

[ducks]

what else has she walked back?

wow you can not recall like clinton

[Reck]

https://media.gq.com/photos/5a03271f71c0c55a92ce86a9/master/w_800/Colin%20Kaepernick%20-%201217%20Cover3.jpg

https://media.gq.com/photos/5a01ffa071c0c55a92ce8622/master/w_1000/Colin-Kaepernick-Man-of-the-Year-1217-GQ-FECK02-01.jpg

This is not going to go well with the Nazis.

Darrins, go hide. Look at all those mean black men in that picture. :lol

[Kim Jong-il]

Conservatives responding by rushing to newsstands to buy GQ so they can make videos of themselves burning copies of GQ. that’ll show em!

[boutons_deux]

Tomi Lahren brutally roasted on Thanksgiving for photoshopping Colin Kaepernick into D-Day

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screenshot-300-e1477056441815-800x430.png


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPWG4IBX0AAJV6T.jpg

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/tomi-lahren-brutally-roasted-on-thanksgiving-for-photoshopping-colin-kaepernick-into-d-day/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Ignorant and lying bimbo

[Reck]

963085320328830976

:lol Dale AKA Chris

[DeadlyDynasty]

It's ONLY 2 DAYS into NFL free agency and Eric Reid is already playing the protest card:lol This will definitely make him a more enticing FA to NFL teams