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hater
09-01-2016, 04:58 PM
:lmao just in from ABC broadcast :lol

:lmao ShillaHitler can't even increase her lead even with media full on smear campaign on Mr Trump

She is gotta be the worst candidate in history. Needed cheating to beat a socialist mummy in the Primaries

Now although voters are growing wary of Trump, they are eager to run away from Shillary :lmao

She's got no chance now

clambake
09-01-2016, 05:08 PM
america will be great


what do ya got to lose

z0sa
09-01-2016, 05:34 PM
It is almost like the major corporations providing your news want the race to be close.

hater
09-01-2016, 05:35 PM
It is almost like the major corporations providing your news want the race to be close.

So polls are fake now? Is that right?

z0sa
09-01-2016, 05:38 PM
So polls are fake now? Is that right?

Do you deny that a landslide prediction more than 60 days before the election is bad business?

Reck
09-01-2016, 05:51 PM
You know it's getting bad when you have to include 3 other people to make the race seem close.

Head to head she's manhandling him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Hater :lol

Warlord23
09-01-2016, 05:55 PM
National polls make it seem closer than it actually is. Ultimately it comes down to states and EVs. The math is simple for Clinton:

Democratic "blue wall" of 18 states + DC that have gone blue in the last 6 Presidential elections: 242 EVs
Per RCP, Clinton's average lead is +10 in VA, +9 in NH, +11 in CO: 26 EVs
NM hasn't been polled much, but is considered safe for the Dems based on demographics and recent trends: 5 EVs

That gives her 273 already. Plus she is ahead by smaller margins in IA, NV, FL, OH, NC - a further 74 EVs where Trump is playing catch-up.

Even if he wins every single marginal state, Trump will lose unless he flips one of the safer states like PA or VA. I'd be shocked if Clinton doesn't get 310+ EVs

hater
09-01-2016, 05:57 PM
Will there be 3rd party candidates in the ballots?

z0sa
09-01-2016, 05:59 PM
National polls make it seem closer than it actually is. Ultimately it comes down to states and EVs. The math is simple for Clinton:

Democratic "blue wall" of 18 states + DC that have gone blue in the last 6 Presidential elections: 242 EVs
Per RCP, Clinton's average lead is +10 in VA, +9 in NH, +11 in CO: 26 EVs
NM hasn't been polled much, but is considered safe for the Dems based on demographics and recent trends: 5 EVs

That gives her 273 already. Plus she is ahead by smaller margins in IA, NV, FL, OH, NC - a further 74 EVs where Trump is playing catch-up.

Even if he wins every single marginal state, Trump will lose unless he flips one of the safer states like PA or VA. I'd be shocked if Clinton doesn't get 310+ EVs

Yup.

But...Without any stats to back me up, just goin off the ol gut... It is insane to think that Jill Stein will grab enough votes to not only make the "real" race competitive , but also overcome the Libertarian candidate's vote "stealing" as well.

Reck
09-01-2016, 06:06 PM
Yup.

But...Without any stats to back me up, just goin off the ol gut... It is insane to think that Jill Stein will grab enough votes to not only make the "real" race competitive , but also overcome the Libertarian candidate's vote "stealing" as well.

I find it odd that Jill is actually not taking much from Hillary. It is Johnson whose hurting her numbers.

Hillary's bleeding 2-3 percents to Gary.

z0sa
09-01-2016, 06:09 PM
I find it odd that Jill is actually not taking much from Hillary. It is Johnson whose hurting her numbers.

Hillary's bleeding 2-3 percents to Gary.

Ive yet to see a link supplied by the thread starter, but Im on my phablet so i aint about that tapping every sentence trying to find a hidden link life.

hater
09-01-2016, 06:35 PM
Ive yet to see a link supplied by the thread starter, but Im on my phablet so i aint about that tapping every sentence trying to find a hidden link life.

Yup same here nig. I'm on my phone and delivering my merchandise. I heard it on ABC radio :lol

They actually said:
Shillarys lead shrinks to 6 pts but its a dead heat when you include other candidates :lmao

Can u imagine the polls after Trump anihilates her after the 1st debate?

Warlord23
09-01-2016, 06:52 PM
Also, polls are an indicator. The actual votes will heavily depend upon the candidate's ground game. Trump has 1 field office in FL compared to Hillary's 51 - that's an incredible disparity in a state that's must-win for the GOP.

1 field office in FL and wasting time on rallies in deep blue and deep red states - he's not trying to win. He's trying to get his followers to watch his next TV show and buy his next book

Reck
09-01-2016, 07:02 PM
Yup same here nig. I'm on my phone and delivering my merchandise. I heard it on ABC radio :lol

They actually said:
Shillarys lead shrinks to 6 pts but its a dead heat when you include other candidates :lmao

Can u imagine the polls after Trump anihilates her after the 1st debate?

Which is meaningless since neither Jill or Stein will win a single district, let alone a state.

This is a race among two people so you can dream on and add however many people into polls. In the end, it won't matter.

hater
09-01-2016, 07:13 PM
Also, polls are an indicator. The actual votes will heavily depend upon the candidate's ground game. Trump has 1 field office in FL compared to Hillary's 51 - that's an incredible disparity in a state that's must-win for the GOP.

1 field office in FL and wasting time on rallies in deep blue and deep red states - he's not trying to win. He's trying to get his followers to watch his next TV show and buy his next book

Yup. Trump is basically bullshiting his way pranking on black folk and wetbacks. Just salivating till the debate :lol

Then he's gonna turn it on lime the ShowTime Lakers in the 4th wquarter of a game and shit will be over with

hater
09-01-2016, 07:21 PM
:lmao Clint:lolemail.c:lolm :lmao

Stupid ass b....

SnakeBoy
09-01-2016, 07:33 PM
I find it odd that Jill is actually not taking much from Hillary. It is Johnson whose hurting her numbers.

Hillary's bleeding 2-3 percents to Gary.

Jill Stein seems to be having a hard time getting any attention from the msm. I've only seen her once and that was on Fox. Meanwhile I've seen dufus Johnson and the weird dude that's his running mate numerous times on msnbc/cnn. Stein is actually a likable articulate candidate and I think she would pull a lot more from Shillary if she could get some airtime.

hater
09-02-2016, 03:00 PM
Jill Stein seems to be having a hard time getting any attention from the msm. I've only seen her once and that was on Fox. Meanwhile I've seen dufus Johnson and the weird dude that's his running mate numerous times on msnbc/cnn. Stein is actually a likable articulate candidate and I think she would pull a lot more from Shillary if she could get some airtime.

Mainstream media, wall street and MIC own the airwaves. No way they let her any airtime

ducks
09-02-2016, 03:06 PM
FBI: Clinton Says Could Not Recall All Briefings Due to Concussion

does not help her health questions!

rmt
09-02-2016, 05:12 PM
do not recall, do not recall, do not recall. Her lawyers knew that lack of intent would get her off - just claim ignorance.

baseline bum
09-02-2016, 05:27 PM
Yup. Trump is basically bullshiting his way pranking on black folk and wetbacks. Just salivating till the debate :lol

Then he's gonna turn it on lime the ShowTime Lakers in the 4th wquarter of a game and shit will be over with

He looks more like the 2016 Lakers tbh

ducks
09-02-2016, 05:31 PM
so Clinton now is ahead 1 in Virginia interesting

Emerson Poll: Trump Leads in Iowa, Hillary Up by 1 in Virginia

Reck
09-02-2016, 05:39 PM
so Clinton now is ahead 1 in Virginia interesting

Emerson Poll: Trump Leads in Iowa, Hillary Up by 1 in Virginia

Emerson is right up there with Rasmussen.



Emerson College



34
7.9
84%
+0.2
+0.3
B

R+1.3




Republican leaning is +1.3. :lmao

Even Fox is not that stupid. They leaned republican by less than half that amount. +0.5

ducks
09-02-2016, 06:35 PM
The poll showed 40 percent of likely voters supporting Trump and 39 percent backing Clinton for the week of Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Clinton's support has dropped steadily in the weekly tracking poll since Aug. 25, eliminating what had been a eight-point lead for her.

Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Trump Catches Up to Clinton

TheSanityAnnex
09-02-2016, 06:57 PM
Emerson is right up there with Rasmussen.



Emerson College



34
7.9
84%
+0.2
+0.3
B

R+1.3



Republican leaning is +1.3. :lmao

Even Fox is not that stupid. They leaned republican by less than half that amount. +0.5
How's Reuters?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1182PT

Reck
09-02-2016, 07:04 PM
How's Reuters?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1182PT

the Nation polling project estimated Clinton was on track to win the Electoral College, by about 332 votes to 206. Those numbers were scheduled to be updated later Friday.

:lol

Even when he gets good news, its bad.

Also, remind me what the average of the national polling is? I'll wait.

ducks
09-02-2016, 07:21 PM
Those numbers were scheduled to be updated later Friday.

they have not updated them yet!

ducks
09-02-2016, 07:24 PM
real politics average in 4 man race is 3.2

Reck
09-02-2016, 07:56 PM
TheSanityAnnex quit hiding.

Reck
09-02-2016, 07:57 PM
Those numbers were scheduled to be updated later Friday.

they have not updated them yet!

Hillary Clinton
316.5
Donald Trump

221.1

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

How do you like them apples?

Reck
09-02-2016, 08:03 PM
real politics average in 4 man race is 3.2

You conviently left out the one that matters.

Hillary v Trump averages?

Let me also point out that Obama's national percent average was .2 and he still got over 300 ev.

So whether its a 4 point lead or a 3 point lead, he's still getting landslided.

ducks
09-02-2016, 08:32 PM
Still not Labor Day

hater
09-06-2016, 12:10 PM
Todays polls show a dead heat :lmao

Not even close to the debate and shes already loosing ground :lmao

hater
09-06-2016, 12:11 PM
How do you hide fom the media for a few weeks to avoid fuck ups and you still manage to lose ground????


:lmao worst candidate in recent Ages

SnakeBoy
09-06-2016, 03:27 PM
How do you hide fom the media for a few weeks to avoid fuck ups and you still manage to lose ground????


:lmao worst candidate in recent Ages

She wasn't hiding she was resting. Now begins the grueling part of the campaign schedule. We'll see if her rested sick body can hold up to it.

CosmicCowboy
09-06-2016, 03:33 PM
She wasn't resting, she was raising money.

Trump supporters shouldn't get too excited. It's all going to come down to organization and ground game and Trump doesn't have it.

ducks
09-06-2016, 03:50 PM
Clinton fear is enough to get a lot of voters out to vote against her

Reck
09-06-2016, 05:22 PM
CNN is desperate. Trying to give Trump good news so he can talk nice about them so people can watch them again. :lol

Other poll that came out today has her up 6.

Reck
09-06-2016, 05:33 PM
:lmao


A total of 1,001 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. Among the entire sample, 28% described themselves as Democrats, 32% described themselves as Republicans, and 40% described themselves as independents or members of another party.

CNN trying to cheat. 4% more republicans than democrats. Hahaha

You can stop celebrating now.

SnakeBoy
09-06-2016, 05:33 PM
She wasn't resting, she was raising money.

Trump supporters shouldn't get too excited. It's all going to come down to organization and ground game and Trump doesn't have it.

It was just a #sickHillary joke to cheer up hater.

boutons_deux
09-06-2016, 05:38 PM
Electoral vote count?

Reck
09-06-2016, 05:56 PM
Electoral vote count?

Someone noted that.


Also, if Trump is ahead nationally among LVs, then you'd likely see him ahead in FL/OH/PA battleground polling among LVs

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/06/blockbuster-cnn-poll-showing-trump-two/

CNN has become a joke. They're desperate for ratings. They are trying to get the Trump people back.

ducks
09-06-2016, 06:03 PM
Interesting that AP and his "Twitter pals" now admit that polls can be deliberately skewed, but only when they favor Trump.

Reck
09-06-2016, 06:08 PM
^Except there is proof that the CNN poll is skewed, you dumbass.

ducks
09-06-2016, 06:10 PM
just admit polls can be skewed did you check the one that Clinton is ahead by 6?
how many of each party in that one?

Reck
09-06-2016, 06:24 PM
just admit polls can be skewed did you check the one that Clinton is ahead by 6?
how many of each party in that one?

Thats just head to head. When all 4 candidates are added. Just 4 points.

boutons_deux
09-06-2016, 08:06 PM
Trash is gonna lose and lose bad. Polls had Bishop Gekko close, and he got TRASHed by Barry.

ducks
09-06-2016, 08:23 PM
Lol u are funny

Reck
09-06-2016, 09:08 PM
Lol u are funny

Since TSA is too stupid or too scare to actually answer my question from a week ago.

Can you tell me what the electoral map looks like right now? Forget polling, I'm throwing that out for the sake of this point.

boutons_deux
09-06-2016, 09:09 PM
pollsters and media have self-interest ($$$) keeping the race close.

clambake
09-06-2016, 10:09 PM
so.......whats an electoral vote worth these days?

boutons_deux
09-06-2016, 10:52 PM
so.......whats an electoral vote worth these days?

it's worth the White House.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 10:55 PM
She wasn't resting, she was raising money.

Trump supporters shouldn't get too excited. It's all going to come down to organization and ground game and Trump doesn't have it.Trump will get thumped.

If the GOP hadn't wasted 5 years and tens of millions of dollars in an ill-chosen Jihad over Benghazi, maybe the easy political points over the emails and the Clinton Foundation would have had -- as they should have, in my opinion -- a much bigger impact.

Chasing a chimera and stretching the truth to nail HRC have backfired big time.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 10:56 PM
Also, the GOP has nominated a clown -- the weakest candidate since Barry Goldwater, easily.

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:04 PM
I love how all the Hillary distractors are mocking Hillary for "hiding" while she's raising money like crazy.

Later this month and next month going into November we'll see how much you're laughing when Trump doesn't even have 5 millions on hand. Does anyone even know what Trump raised in the month of August?

We know what she raised. 140 Million dollars.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:15 PM
Trump's outsourcing the ground game to the RNC.

He's not dumb -- he gets to keep what he has left over, right?

Also, between now and his very probable thumping at the polls, he gets to keep patronizing his own venues and lining his own pockets with campaign donations.

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:18 PM
trump will win nc,florida and ohio

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:22 PM
he needs more than that

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:25 PM
those are states that are battle grounds
would not surprise me he wins Wisconsin either

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:27 PM
trump will win nc,florida and ohio

Which Trump is trailing in all of them by at least 2 points on average. LOL

He's going to lose North Carolina of all places and has put South Carolina and even Misissippi up for grabs as well.

Oh and yeah, Texas is also in play apparently.

Texas:

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/texas-poll.jpg

Missisipi
http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mississippi-poll.jpg

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:28 PM
FiveThirtyEight
2016 Election Forecast
if you use that and add those states trump will win if he wins what they forecast

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:29 PM
Good read:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/06/hillary-clinton-turn-texas-mississippi-blue-polls.html

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:30 PM
FiveThirtyEight
2016 Election Forecast
if you use that and add those states trump will win if he wins what they forecast

Back it up.

538 has Trump leading in no battleground states.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:32 PM
Since TSA is too stupid or too scare to actually answer my question from a week ago.

Can you tell me what the electoral map looks like right now? Forget polling, I'm throwing that out for the sake of this point.

Looks like we have another TSA. ducks, why you ducking?

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:36 PM
a random poll of 5,000 registered voters could be wrong....

http://kut.org/post/poll-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump-texas

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:37 PM
not sure I believe it, but I didn't expect that result or anything like this time around. interesting artifact.

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:38 PM
I am on the phone not ducking I am predicating he will win did not say he was ahead right now in those states

boutons_deux
09-06-2016, 11:40 PM
http://www.latimes.com/projects/2016-presidential-election-map/

Trash! :lol

assholes supporting Trash! :lol They'd all be "Good Germans".

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:41 PM
that HRC is even competitive in places like Alabama and Georgia is striking. she shouldn't be, with a (D) next to her name.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:43 PM
I am on the phone not ducking I am predicating he will win did not say he was ahead right now in those statesdo you believe that your relentlessly positive messaging on behalf of Trump will work?

it isn't working here.

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:45 PM
a random poll of 5,000 registered voters could be wrong....

http://kut.org/post/poll-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump-texas

did they go one country or through the state?

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:47 PM
we shall see after the debate and win people start paying attention after labor day and a few email bombshells

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:47 PM
not sure I believe it, but I didn't expect that result or anything like this time around. interesting artifact.

I dont live in Texas so I cant know what the mood among the people there is but when even The Dallas Morning News rejects you, you know you're not doing so well.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/06/492891945/dallas-morning-news-trump-is-no-republican

Thhey had endorsed a republican candidate going back to the 60s. There might be some truth to the polls.

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:47 PM
do you believe that your relentlessly positive messaging on behalf of Trump will work?

it isn't working here.

just saying clinton will win will not change the outcome either

SnakeBoy
09-06-2016, 11:48 PM
not sure I believe it, but I didn't expect that result or anything like this time around. interesting artifact.

Lot of Bush & Cruz supporters are still butt hurt over what Big Orange did to their boys.

SnakeBoy
09-06-2016, 11:50 PM
Doubt they'll actually vote Hillary in the end though.

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:51 PM
just saying clinton will win will not change the outcome either

But the polls do and they are right most often then not. It's not just some random dude saying Trump will win in a landslide.

There are stats that are backing her.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:51 PM
]Lot of Bush & Cruz supporters are still butt hurt over what Big Orange did to their boysThey should be. Trump fucked em good.

He's about to do the same to his own supporters.

Enjoy!

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:53 PM
lot of cruz supporters mad at cruz for not supporting trump and lot of bush boys made at him for not supporting trump like they both said they would

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:53 PM
Doubt they'll actually vote Hillary in the end though.That I agree with. Texas won't swing blue this time, but Trump's showing we're much closer to it than we thought.

Winehole23
09-06-2016, 11:54 PM
lot of cruz supporters mad at cruz for not supporting trump and lot of bush boys made at him for not supporting trump like they both said they wouldis there an echo in here?

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:54 PM
bernie is fucking his supporting by doing what he is doing
cruz and bush both said they would support the president candidate sanders was not even asked

SnakeBoy
09-06-2016, 11:54 PM
I still think Hillary wins but the way the polls look Trump actually might have a chance if he can get around 45% of the vote in the right states. Would be ironic if Trump wins the White House the same way Bill did.

Reck
09-06-2016, 11:57 PM
I still think Hillary wins but the way the polls look Trump actually might have a chance if he can get around 45% of the vote in the right states. Would be ironic if Trump wins the White House the same way Bill did.

The only polls that has had Trump even close to mid 40s have been outliers.

That LA Times one for instance is hilariously bad. The one from CNN today was pretty out of the norm, too.

Outliers poll that dont match what the race actually looks like.

ducks
09-06-2016, 11:58 PM
I actually think they should do away with the electoral college and go with the popular vote

ducks
09-07-2016, 12:02 AM
reuter poll has trump ahead in some batter ground polls

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:05 AM
I actually think they should do away with the electoral college and go with the popular voteso much the worse for Trump if they did.

you're grasping at straws.

SnakeBoy
09-07-2016, 12:05 AM
They should be. Trump fucked em good.

He's about to do the same to his own supporters.

Enjoy!

Oh I am. This is simultaneously the worst and best election cycle ever.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:06 AM
I still think Hillary wins but the way the polls look Trump actually might have a chance if he can get around 45% of the vote in the right states. Would be ironic if Trump wins the White House the same way Bill did.Gary Johnson -- the Libertarian candidate -- stealing more votes from HRC?

Very doubtful.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:07 AM
Oh I am. This is simultaneously the worst and best election cycle ever.Best how?

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:10 AM
did they go one country or through the state?Texas registered voters. Allegedly at random. Doubt it's predictive though.

SnakeBoy
09-07-2016, 12:18 AM
Best how?

Has there been a more entertaining one?

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:27 AM
Idiocracy was entertaining, but it was a movie.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:27 AM
Oh well, if you're in the handbasket to hell, you might as well laugh on the way down...

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:30 AM
... and in the long run. we're all dead. I guess there is some comfort in that.

ducks
09-07-2016, 12:35 AM
Idiocracy was entertaining, but it was a movie.
so you think you are the smartest person in the world ?

ducks
09-07-2016, 12:36 AM
trump got more primary votes then any one else ever did
are they that many people stupid
and then the democrats picked clinton HELLO

rmt
09-07-2016, 12:40 AM
Gary Johnson -- the Libertarian candidate -- stealing more votes from HRC?

Very doubtful.

When it's just Clinton vs Trump, the gap is usually larger than 4-way polls.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:49 AM
so you think you are the smartest person in the world ?about average, like the protagonists in Idiocracy.

If that makes me the smartest person in the world, so be it...

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:50 AM
When it's just Clinton vs Trump, the gap is usually larger than 4-way polls.Wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up faster.

Trump is going to lose...badly.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:53 AM
Sad thing is, when the dust clears, the GOP won't know where it is or who to turn to.

The nomination of Trump is an epochal disaster for the GOP.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:54 AM
And I say that as someone who is still rooting against HRC.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 12:56 AM
I am rooting against Trump too. I wish this could be the war with heavy attrition on both sides...both parties are so deserving of disaster.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 01:00 AM
Fortunately for the GOP, they will have the second most hated nominee ever to rail against for four years.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 01:01 AM
Round and round it goes.

Politics isn't about ideas or policies or the vision thing anymore.

It's all about who you hate.

SnakeBoy
09-07-2016, 01:08 AM
Sad thing is, when the dust clears, the GOP won't know where it is or who to turn to.

The nomination of Trump is an epochal disaster for the GOP.

This may be a good thing...time will tell. Hopefully they don't turn to Jeb! or Cruz to regain their identity.

4 years of Hillary and the Dems may find themselves in the same position. Bernie already gave them a scare.

Winehole23
09-07-2016, 01:12 AM
This may be a good thing...time will tell. Hopefully they don't turn to Jeb! or Cruz to regain their identity.I can see that, but who would the GOP turn to?


4 years of Hillary and the Dems may find themselves in the same position. Bernie already gave them a scare.Agree 100%. Realignment is a bitch.

Reck
09-07-2016, 01:15 AM
trump got more primary votes then any one else ever did
are they that many people stupid
and then the democrats picked clinton HELLO

What?

Trump got over 13 million votes. Hillary got over 15. Over 2 million more.

SnakeBoy
09-07-2016, 02:20 AM
I can see that, but who would the GOP turn to?


I don't know. They've been leaderless for a long time. Realignment is a bitch.

boutons_deux
09-07-2016, 04:24 AM
Trash will lose, melodramatic talk about the Repug pay-to-play party splitting, disappearing is bullshit.

Repug party will continue to be owned and operated, corrupted by BigMoney/BigCorp, in Congress and in all red/slave states that are dominated by Repugs fucking over citizenry for BigCorp profit. There will be no solutions to national problems, no progress on anything.

Repug strict obstructionism and austerity will cause USA to continue a low-growth sclerotic Real Economy, while the Financial Economy extracts more and more wealth from the 99%.

Repugs will continue to defund govt at all levels, to prove that their blind ideology that no good can come from govt, that govt FOR THE PEOPLE 99 must be destroyed.

Trash is solidly an establishment Repug. He's just not the Repug that the Repug establishment wanted.

hater
09-07-2016, 06:53 AM
Lol shillary would make Bush Jr seem like Camelot :lol

Democrats dodging a bullet by her losing

boutons_deux
09-07-2016, 09:01 AM
The swing state math still looks terrible for Donald Trump


But current polling averages for both RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/state/) and HuffPost Pollster (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster) do still show Clinton leading Donald Trump in almost every traditional swing state.

Furthermore, Clinton remains not only ahead but pretty comfortably ahead in states that would be enough to provide her with a majority of electoral college votes.

In the below map, I’ve projected states to Clinton or Trump if either is leading both polling averages by 5 or more points, and kept the closer states as undecided. As you can see, Clinton currently has enough solid-looking leads to top 270 electoral vote that would give her a win.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DmacYYglmHG_ZBjS_TthCiIx_Q8=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7051661/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-06%20at%201.06.58%20PM.png

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/7/12814464/donald-trump-clinton-polls-winning

ducks
09-07-2016, 10:51 AM
what is scary for Clinton
she has spentthe most money in florida especially tamba and orlanda and real politics average is 2.1 little less then the national average
also their is a ton of minorities there.

ducks
09-07-2016, 10:54 AM
Poll: Trump Leads Clinton by 19 Points With Vets, Military Voters

also the cnn poll says trump is winning by large margin the independent vote!

rmt
09-07-2016, 12:18 PM
The swing state math still looks terrible for Donald Trump


But current polling averages for both RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/state/) and HuffPost Pollster (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster) do still show Clinton leading Donald Trump in almost every traditional swing state.

Furthermore, Clinton remains not only ahead but pretty comfortably ahead in states that would be enough to provide her with a majority of electoral college votes.

In the below map, I’ve projected states to Clinton or Trump if either is leading both polling averages by 5 or more points, and kept the closer states as undecided. As you can see, Clinton currently has enough solid-looking leads to top 270 electoral vote that would give her a win.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DmacYYglmHG_ZBjS_TthCiIx_Q8=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7051661/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-06%20at%201.06.58%20PM.png

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/7/12814464/donald-trump-clinton-polls-winning

He would need all those swing states plus NH - that takes him to 269 with the House deciding. Better add Maine CD2 to Trump just in case - wouldn't put it past a delegate to switch on him.

Chucho
09-07-2016, 01:19 PM
You know it's getting bad when you have to include 3 other people to make the race seem close.

Head to head she's manhandling him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Hater :lol


But that isn't what will count, there are 3 candidates on all 50 state ballots as of now.
Reck:lol

ducks
09-08-2016, 03:07 PM
Quinnipiac Poll: Clinton, Trump Close in 4 Swing States
Here are the results from Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania:

Florida:
Clinton: 47 percent
Trump: 47 percent

North Carolina:
Clinton: 47 percent
Trump: 43 percent

Ohio:
Trump: 46 percent
Clinton: 45 percent

Pennsylvania:
Clinton: 48 percent
Trump: 43 percent

Here are the results when Libertarian Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein are included:

Florida:
Clinton: 43 percent
Trump: 43 percent
Johnson: 8 percent
Stein: 2 percent

North Carolina:
Clinton: 42 percent
Trump: 38 percent
Johnson: 15 percent
Stein: Not on ballot

Ohio:

Trump: 41 percent
Clinton: 37 percent
Johnson: 14 percent
Stein: 4 percent

Pennsylvania:
Clinton: 44 percent
Trump: 39 percent
Johnson: 9 percent
Stein: 3 percent

101A
09-08-2016, 03:36 PM
I can see that, but who would the GOP turn to?

Largest primary field ever, I'm thinking. Disparate visions and messages. No clear front runner. So another reality star or celebrity probably.

boutons_deux
09-08-2016, 03:40 PM
Largest primary field ever, I'm thinking. Disparate visions and messages. No clear front runner. So another reality star or celebrity probably.

Other than Trash, the rest of the field were deeply insider, establishment Repugs, which the Repug base rejected dramatically.

Does the Repug establishment even understand, or care, what happened?

Even if they do, the Repug party will continue as before, whores to BigCorp/1% $Bs, pro-Corporate-American and anti-Human-American.

ducks
09-08-2016, 03:55 PM
A Very Bad Poll for Hillary Clinton
The frontrunner has outspent Trump almost 5-to-1 but still watched her lead evaporate
http://observer.com/2016/09/a-very-bad-poll-for-hillary-clinton/

Reck
09-08-2016, 04:09 PM
A Very Bad Poll for Hillary Clinton
The frontrunner has outspent Trump almost 5-to-1 but still watched her lead evaporate
http://observer.com/2016/09/a-very-bad-poll-for-hillary-clinton/

LOL this is the old poll from CNN where they got more republican than democrats.

rmt
09-08-2016, 04:10 PM
Other than Trash, the rest of the field were deeply insider, establishment Repugs, which the Repug base rejected dramatically.

Does the Repug establishment even understand, or care, what happened?

Even if they do, the Repug party will continue as before, whores to BigCorp/1% $Bs, pro-Corporate-American and anti-Human-American.

So, boutons, you do understand why Trump was the nominee even if he is so repugnant to you. Even with his myriad of faults, he's the only one with even a chance of standing up to them - all the others will cave/fold. Sometimes, I think - why couldn't he just be a little nicer, a little less full of himself - just tone it down a bit. But I've come to the realization that if he weren't the way he is, he'd have never made it this far. I can't imagine how it must feel - the media, the Democrats, the Republican establishment, the donors - all against him.

boutons_deux
09-08-2016, 04:47 PM
Trash ain't gonna stand up, CAN'T stand up, to Repug establishment because the Repug establishment in Congress, and he won't be President.

He's the nominee because he got the racist, xenophobic, jingoist, hate-and-fear vote, which has been the Repug base for decades anyway.

hater
09-08-2016, 08:28 PM
:lmao not even close to debate time and shillary already in trouble :lmao

Trump will lead by 5 pts eve after debate

hater
09-08-2016, 08:28 PM
And won't look back

Winehole23
09-08-2016, 08:46 PM
No, but Trump'll piss backwards on you when he loses.

it won't be close.

HRC, horrible as she is, will crush Donald Trump.

Winehole23
09-08-2016, 08:49 PM
He's the next Sarah Palin.

In two years, he'll be a sad clown with a paper megaphone.

Reck
09-08-2016, 09:08 PM
I no longer pay attention to polls. It is beyond that.

You have to look at the actual electoral votes. 538 has her blitzing Trump to the tune of 300+ EVs.

hater
09-09-2016, 08:07 AM
:lmao Shillalovers sounding like Republicans circa 2004 :lmao

Oh my how the tables have turned

rmt
09-09-2016, 08:25 AM
how the fuck is he an outsider? He's a fucking reality tv star. he's spent millions buying influence. He's the ultimate insider.

He was a private citizen - a businessman doing what's best for his business - held to a different standard than elected, public servants who are supposed to be doing what's best for America. BTW, good to see no (personal) insults.

florige
09-09-2016, 02:25 PM
I no longer pay attention to polls. It is beyond that.

You have to look at the actual electoral votes. 538 has her blitzing Trump to the tune of 300+ EVs.


Then the righties are going to cry foul claiming the electoral college is a joke blah, blah, blah forgetting that same thing happened in 2000 with GW.

florige
09-09-2016, 02:30 PM
The right seems to fail to realize that while Hillary I will admit is very much disliked and untrustworthy, Trump isn't exactly Ronald Reagan popular himself. Not sure what gives them the idea that in some secret of secret poll Trump is actually beating Clinton by double digit margins, I guess they think their friends and the other 25 or so people who are behind Trump speaks for the other 100 million or so people in this country,

pgardn
09-09-2016, 03:42 PM
Trump lies about such insignificant things and also things of great significance. Big problem Donald. He Must think the public is totally daft.

Hillary pushes boundaries to see what she can get away with. Lawyer up type evil, what can I get away with...

SnakeBoy
09-09-2016, 03:58 PM
He's the next Sarah Palin.

In two years, he'll be a sad clown with a paper megaphone.

In two years he'll be raking in the money tbh. Even Palin went from having a household income less than mine to being a multi-millionaire. I don't think anyone would doubt that Trump Inc. will be far better at monetizing notoriety than Palin was.

Winehole23
09-09-2016, 09:49 PM
I think you overestimate Trump and underestimate the stink of the loser.

It'll be his new cologne after the election and it probably won't be good for his brand.

ducks
09-10-2016, 11:18 AM
Trump closes in on Clinton's projected electoral lead: Reuters/Ipsos Poll
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-closes-clintons-projected-electoral-lead-reuters-ipsos-135210513.html

Reck
09-10-2016, 11:22 AM
Trump closes in on Clinton's projected electoral lead: Reuters/Ipsos Poll
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-closes-clintons-projected-electoral-lead-reuters-ipsos-135210513.html

I love you ducks. :lol

Clinton now has an 83 percent chance of winning the election by an average of 47 votes in the Electoral College, the body that ultimately selects the president. In late August, the States of the Nation estimated that Clinton had a 95 percent chance of winning by an average of 108 electoral votes.

So basically she still has an 83 percent chance of winning and that's better than 95%...somehow?

ducks
09-10-2016, 11:31 AM
clinton just lost alot of undecided and alot of independents

Reck
09-10-2016, 11:34 AM
clinton just lost alot of undecided and alot of independents

Where?

boutons_deux
09-10-2016, 11:44 AM
clinton just lost alot of undecided and alot of independents

wishful thinking.

Any serious undecided or independent knows she speaks the truth, which has been blantantly clear since the day Trash called immigrants rapists, aligning himself indivisibly with the racist, xenophobic Repug establishment.

ducks
09-10-2016, 12:08 PM
Where?

In the USA

Reck
09-10-2016, 12:34 PM
In the USA

And where are your numbers to back it up?

If you mean over the basket comments, you must be a retard.

No independents or undecided gives two fucks about Trump supporters. What are they supposed to do? Feel bad about them and shed a tear? For Trump supporters of all people? Your delusions have been noted.

ducks
09-10-2016, 12:51 PM
Where are the numbers saying it will not happen

ducks
09-10-2016, 12:52 PM
If it was no big deal why is the press saying it was a mistake

Reck
09-10-2016, 01:03 PM
Where are the numbers saying it will not happen

:lmao


If it was no big deal why is the press saying it was a mistake

Since when is the media right about anything? And why is Trump even still in this race after all the shit he's said?

Trump shouldn't run for house president let alone for the country.

hater
09-10-2016, 01:43 PM
Ambassadors killed:
Shillary 1
Trump 0

Methinks somone else shuld be banned from running for president

ducks
09-10-2016, 01:45 PM
Wait the Clinton camp is trying to backtrack it
But it is no big deal

Winehole23
09-11-2016, 10:14 AM
Trump can't even run a decent campaign -- face it, it's a dumpster fire. That people think he can run the government would be merely laughable if Trump didn't have a chance to win.

hater
09-12-2016, 11:15 AM
:lmao Shillarys lead just shrank to 3 :lol

Reck
09-12-2016, 11:23 AM
:lmao Shillarys lead just shrank to 3 :lol



ABC News/Wash Post (http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1181a12016Election.pdf)
9/5 - 9/8
642 LV
4.5
51
43
Clinton +8



:lol Hater

Also the race has been between 1-2 points for weeks now. :lol

hater
09-12-2016, 11:28 AM
Realclearpolitics average :lol


:lmao shes finished this is not even taking into account her Weekend At Bernies episode :lmao

hater
09-12-2016, 11:30 AM
She looked like the staff at Trump Haiti Hotel was doing work on her with dead chickens and shit :lol

Reck
09-12-2016, 11:31 AM
Realclearpolitics average :lol


:lmao shes finished this is not even taking into account her Weekend At Bernies episode :lmao

Also was at 2.7 and now is at around 3.1.

Another Hater fail. :lol

Axl Rose
09-12-2016, 11:32 AM
Lol the timely abc shill poll outlier

Reck
09-12-2016, 11:41 AM
Lol the timely abc shill poll outlier

:lmao now they're an outlier? How convinient.

313
09-12-2016, 12:16 PM
Big problem Donald. He Must think the public is totally daft.
He might be on to something

Axl Rose
09-12-2016, 03:37 PM
:lmao now they're an outlier? How convinient.
Abc has been consistently biased towards Clinton, why it is that la times has them tied, and the overall average was at 2.7 before that poll, but suddenly she's up 8? That's what an outlier is, it stands out from the other data

Reck
09-12-2016, 04:14 PM
Abc has been consistently biased towards Clinton, why it is that la times has them tied, and the overall average was at 2.7 before that poll, but suddenly she's up 8? That's what an outlier is, it stands out from the other data

Dude the LA one is the outlier here. Both 538, Hufington Post and even the LA Times itself did a breakdown on why it is so Trump tilted. They used some bullshit model from the 2012 election. Basically they assumed Romney's voters are Voting for Trump.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-leave-the-la-times-poll-alone/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/innovative-interesting-new-poll-not-believable_us_57bb1bc9e4b007f181993144

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-polling-differences-20160809-snap-story.html

You know you ain't doing it right when even the people who are co-sponsoring the polling come out against their own methadology. :lol


Finally, some analysts think (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/upshot/a-favorable-poll-for-donald-trump-has-a-major-problem.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2 Fupshot&action=click&contentCollection=upshot&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=4&pgtype=sectionfront) the Daybreak poll is slightly tilted toward the Republican side because of how it accounts for the way people voted in the last election.

Axl Rose
09-12-2016, 04:19 PM
dude, September 7 economist, Reuters, and gwu all showed a 2 point race, it's an outlier. Abc consistently puts out shit

Reck
09-12-2016, 04:26 PM
dude, September 7 economist, Reuters, and gwu all showed a 2 point race, it's an outlier. Abc consistently puts out shit

It's only shit when he's down.

No one called that CNN poll that came out a week ago outlier when they had him up two even though they polled republicans 34% to 28% democrats.

All is well eh?

TheSanityAnnex
09-12-2016, 04:30 PM
It's only shit when he's down.

No one called that CNN poll that came out a week ago outlier when they had him up two even though they polled republicans 34% to 28% democrats.

All is well eh?

I'm done with polls LOL

Axl Rose
09-12-2016, 04:30 PM
I haven't trusted the polls since the primaries and it's worked out well for me. Too many instances of gross bias, like Reuters altering their methodology a few months back when trump was winning. They all routinely over sample dems and under sample independents

Axl Rose
09-12-2016, 04:32 PM
Also not to mention trump over performs on Election Day and there is the "monster vote" which no one seems to be accounting for. Also, who still uses landlines? Current polling methods are falling out of date. We won't know anything until Election Day, I've already resigned myself to that.

Reck
09-12-2016, 04:36 PM
LOL

It's true. It is a personal opinion.

But I will engage in poll discussion. Dont you agree that it is all about the electoral votes and swing states?

Reck
09-12-2016, 04:39 PM
Also not to mention trump over performs on Election Day and there is the "monster vote" which no one seems to be accounting for. Also, who still uses landlines? Current polling methods are falling out of date. We won't know anything until Election Day, I've already resigned myself to that.

You have a point about cellphones.

But dont fall pray to what the Bernie people felt into. They also called into question the landline method. They went down thinking he would win because pollsters dont call cellphones.

Bernie felt well short of his promise. Also the huge crowds he got pretty much meant nothing.

TheSanityAnnex
09-12-2016, 04:54 PM
You have a point about cellphones.

But dont fall pray to what the Bernie people felt into. They also called into question the landline method. They went down thinking he would win because pollsters dont call cellphones.

Bernie felt well short of his promise. Also the huge crowds he got pretty much meant nothing.

Bernie had the DNC working directly against him. The head was fired for it, and then re-hired on Clinton's campaign.

Reck
09-12-2016, 04:59 PM
Bernie had the DNC working directly against him. The head was fired for it, and then re-hired on Clinton's campaign.

I dont dispute that. Favoritism were shown.

But is not like they rigged the vote or machines to make her win.

ducks
09-12-2016, 05:01 PM
CNN: Hillary's Odds of Winning Drop to 58 Percent After Health Scare

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/12/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-health-deplorables-pivit/index.html

clambake
09-12-2016, 05:04 PM
i love how ducks flies around here dropping eggs in every hot thread.

ducks
09-12-2016, 05:30 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/clinton-skips-out-on-emergency-room-during-health-episode/
Clinton aide no to er got to hide it from public!

boutons_deux
09-12-2016, 06:18 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/clinton-skips-out-on-emergency-room-during-health-episode/
Clinton aide no to er got to hide it from public!

Murdoch's toilet paper calls it a "health crisis"? sick, dehydrated (which invites over-heating) is not a "crisis"

the ER angle is a Secret Service protocol, not a medical protocol.

fabricate and hype away, assholes.

ducks
09-12-2016, 06:29 PM
Young Millennials Love Obama, But Clinton Is Struggling To Win Them Over

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/young-millennials-love-obama-but-clinton-is-struggling-to-win-them-over/


I bet the democrats wish clinton picked sanders this years vp pick for clinton could come into play

ducks
09-12-2016, 06:33 PM
the undecided voters could lean toward trump with johnson error,stein warrant, and clintons bad 48 hours

ducks
09-12-2016, 06:33 PM
Murdoch's toilet paper calls it a "health crisis"? sick, dehydrated (which invites over-heating) is not a "crisis"

the ER angle is a Secret Service protocol, not a medical protocol.

fabricate and hype away, assholes.


better source then the salon!

pgardn
09-12-2016, 06:38 PM
He might be on to something

Ducks have proliferated.

TheSanityAnnex
09-12-2016, 06:38 PM
better source then the salon!
:lmao shill shitting on shill

boutons_deux
09-12-2016, 06:56 PM
:lmao shill shitting on shill

duck can't shit on anybody, he was born with his head up his ass

TheSanityAnnex
09-12-2016, 07:00 PM
duck can't shit on anybody, he was born with his head up his ass

Even with that birth defect he pulled off shitting all over you.

Reck
09-12-2016, 07:05 PM
Gotta give this one to ducks. That was a funny line.

ducks
09-12-2016, 09:03 PM
UPI/CVoter poll: Donald Trump widens lead over Hillary Clinton to 3 points

boutons_deux
09-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Even with that birth defect he pulled off shitting all over you.

... only in your very ignorant, misinformed opinion