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baseline bum
09-03-2016, 12:04 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kobe-bryant-grant-hill-deal-201100177.html
Kobe Bryant, Grant Hill and the deal that almost changed NBA history
Sporting News Sep 2, 2016, 3:11 PM

Since announcing his retirement last year, Kobe Bryant has been hailed as a Los Angeles icon. But if a 21-year-old Bryant had his way, that never would have happened.

Ex-Lakers coach Phil Jackson says Bryant asked to be traded during the 1999-2000 NBA season, and that the Detroit Pistons were willing to offer up superstar Grant Hill.

"Kobe was only averaging about 19 points per game," Jackson said, via Today's Fastbreak. "So Kobe called Jerry West and wanted to know how Jerry and Elgin Baylor both averaged 30 points. Kobe also said that he wanted to be traded."

At that point, Hill was a perennial All-Star and one of the most marketable players in all of sports. He was also a full six years older than Bryant.

"Of course, Jerry told me about the conversation. And, for a few minutes I thought about taking the Pistons up on an offer they made to trade Kobe for Grant Hill. Make that a few seconds," Jackson said.

A Bryant-Hill swap would have certainly altered NBA history. Hill might have been an even better compliment to Shaquille O'Neal, who eventually teamed up with Bryant for three-consecutive NBA titles. That's if he was healthy, which of course was a problem for Hill the rest of his career.

Bryant, meanwhile, would have arrived in Detroit as a budding superstar with limitless potential and the green light to shoot as much as he wanted. And while nothing would have probably made him happier than that at the time, there's no guarantees he would have been able to win an NBA championship as the lead guy at that time. Just ask Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady.

That swap could have altered the NBA for quite some time. A healthy Hill-O'Neal combo could have extended the Lakers dynasty from three-straight NBA rings to maybe four or five. Or, if Hill's ankle problems re-emerged, perhaps the Sacramento Kings battle the San Antonio Spurs for Western Conference supremacy. And maybe we get several classic Bryant vs. Iverson or Bryant vs. McGrady battles in the Eastern Conference.

Bryant, of course, would go on to spend his entire NBA career with the Lakers. Hill would leave the Pistons the following summer to sign with the Orlando Magic, where his career would ultimately turn into one of the greatest "what-ifs" of all-time.

Thread
09-03-2016, 12:58 AM
They were selling your shit.

Medvedenko
09-03-2016, 12:58 AM
Cool story bro

lefty
09-03-2016, 01:00 AM
:lol Kirby

:cry how do you score 30 pts
:cry I'm jealous of Shaq, trade me pls

lefty20
09-03-2016, 01:14 AM
That sad sack of shit wouldn't know what loyalty is even if it walked up to him and bitch slapped him.

I'm sure his cocksuckers will find some excuse for this just like they do about '07.

Spurtacular
09-03-2016, 01:19 AM
TBH, a healthy Grant Hill would've been better than Two Shawty (Of 7)

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:26 AM
That sad sack of shit wouldn't know what loyalty is even if it walked up to him and bitch slapped him.

I'm sure his cocksuckers will find some excuse for this just like they do about '07.

It ain't a fuckin' game. It's a business. The only helping hand you're gonna get is when they lower you into the ground. Just like in '07 when he roused the old man and made him toe the line. Result? Another back-to-back.

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:26 AM
TBH, a healthy Grant Hill would've been better than Two Shawty (Of 7)

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:27 AM
:lol Kirby

:cry how do you score 30 pts
:cry I'm jealous of Shaq, trade me pls

Then grabbed Daddy by the scruff of the neck up in Portland '00 and dragged him off the gallows.

Result? A triple.

TDMVPDPOY
09-03-2016, 01:29 AM
he also ask the cop to be in his shoes what he wouldve done that night, go finish in the bathroom or just go home...

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:30 AM
he also ask the cop to be in his shoes what he wouldve done that night, go finish in the bathroom or just go home...

...you've nary room. Your Neal raped as well. Then you hired him.

Don't fret, it ain't like she was anything to you. Just in the way, temporarily.

Spurtacular
09-03-2016, 01:36 AM
Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Autism

lefty20
09-03-2016, 01:41 AM
It ain't a fuckin' game. It's a business. The only helping hand you're gonna get is when they lower you into the ground. Just like in '07 when he roused the old man and made him toe the line. Result? Another back-to-back.

Lakers were selling TOSB, tbh.

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:42 AM
Lakers were selling TOSB, tbh.

They were selling your shit.

UZER
09-03-2016, 09:58 AM
Cool story bro

T1XgFsitnQw

resistanze
09-03-2016, 11:53 AM
Just like in '07 when he

He quit. You've attested as such.

Chris
09-03-2016, 11:54 AM
Kobe raped.

whitemamba
09-03-2016, 12:05 PM
Jim is a faggot.

Thread
09-03-2016, 12:51 PM
He quit. You've attested as such.

Absolutely. I never hide my shit.

Thread
09-03-2016, 12:52 PM
Kobe raped.

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well. Then you hired him.

baseline bum
09-03-2016, 01:04 PM
Jim is a faggot.

No, that's the guy with the statue in front of your building, a monument to faggotry.

Silver&Black
09-03-2016, 01:33 PM
No, that's the guy with the statue in front of your building, a monument to faggotry.

"How many straight people do you know with that disease?"

--Isiah Thomas

DMC
09-03-2016, 01:40 PM
1. 12
2. Spurs won't be retiring Neal's jersey
3. Team full of players yet Dale credits Kobe for dragging Shaq here or there.
4 Fish was always the team leader
5. TMac and AI.. lol
6. Shittiest teammate in the history of teammates
7. Why couldn't Kermit Washington have played in Kobe's era?

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:47 PM
1. 12
2. Spurs won't be retiring Neal's jersey
3. Team full of players yet Dale credits Kobe for dragging Shaq here or there.
4 Fish was always the team leader
5. TMac and AI.. lol
6. Shittiest teammate in the history of teammates
7. Why couldn't Kermit Washington have played in Kobe's era?

I'll boil it down for ya, D:::

They were selling your shit.

whitemamba
09-03-2016, 01:49 PM
No, that's the guy with the statue in front of your building, a monument to faggotry.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xzlJTS78qokRNK/giphy.gif

Thread
09-03-2016, 01:52 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xzlJTS78qokRNK/giphy.gif

:lmao:lmao:lmao

DMC
09-03-2016, 01:57 PM
http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/magic-johnson-in-statue-form/u/original/4227512/magic_johnson_statue.jpg

Clipper Nation
09-03-2016, 02:00 PM
Has this faggot gone five minutes in his career without demanding a trade?

Chris
09-03-2016, 02:01 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

Oh yeah, a real knee-slapper. :rolleyes

Thread
09-03-2016, 02:14 PM
Oh yeah, a real knee-slapper. :rolleyes

You guys do it all the time. Big belly laughs over nothing. I'm sick of sitting around turning the other cheek. What's good for the goose,,,is sauce for the gander.

z0sa
09-03-2016, 02:46 PM
When you look at how Kobe fared from a health standpoint without top tier talent next to him, the TMac comparison instantly comes to mind. Kobe would have been out of the League in his early 30's if he had to carry a team night in and night out. without the benefit of the most dominant big of the modern era letting him work off single coverage on the weak side, he just wouldn't have lasted anywhere near as long. And he even fucked that sweet ass gig up in 2004. What a piece of shit.

Thread
09-03-2016, 03:12 PM
Kobe would have been
if he
he just wouldn't

They were selling your shit.

Spurtacular
09-03-2016, 03:30 PM
When you look at how Kobe fared from a health standpoint without top tier talent next to him, the TMac comparison instantly comes to mind. Kobe would have been out of the League in his early 30's if he had to carry a team night in and night out. without the benefit of the most dominant big of the modern era letting him work off single coverage on the weak side, he just wouldn't have lasted anywhere near as long. And he even fucked that sweet ass gig up in 2004. What a piece of shit.

Most non-corporate-induced ball watchers probably take T-Mac or Pierce over 2 Shawty (Kobe). The decision might be more split on Kobe or Carter; but the fact is 2 Shawty didn't rise above the others.

LittleCriminal
09-03-2016, 05:20 PM
Kirby also asked for a trade when he got drafted..
http://thesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kobe-hornets.png

LittleCriminal
09-03-2016, 05:23 PM
Oh and he also traded himself to this..
http://cap-news.com/stories/2011/201104/201104008full.jpg

Chris
09-03-2016, 05:43 PM
LC

Clipper Nation
09-03-2016, 06:43 PM
Oh and he also traded himself to this..
http://cap-news.com/stories/2011/201104/201104008full.jpg
No trade necessary - he was born with that.

UZER
09-03-2016, 07:40 PM
He also tried to trade Shaq for himself to the cops.

Thread
09-03-2016, 11:59 PM
He also tried to trade Shaq for himself to the cops.

You've nary room. Your Rodman snitched as well,,,right in the middle of a Spurs playoff run.

Molotov
09-04-2016, 03:09 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xzlJTS78qokRNK/giphy.gif


:lmao

DMC
09-04-2016, 12:32 PM
You've nary room. Your Rodman snitched as well,,,right in the middle of a Spurs playoff run.
Then you hired him, a snitch. That makes him your Rodman.

StrengthAndHonor
09-04-2016, 12:49 PM
Then you hired him, a snitch. That makes him your Rodman.
Your existence is like a gruesome car accident...

UZER
09-04-2016, 01:29 PM
You've nary room. Your Rodman snitched as well,,,right in the middle of a Spurs playoff run.

Once again, irrelevant.

Thread
09-04-2016, 01:43 PM
Once again, irrelevant.

They were selling your shit.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 02:29 PM
They were selling your shit.

You have yet to tender your resignation.

Thread
09-04-2016, 02:30 PM
You have yet to tender your resignation.

And you've yet to cite it.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 02:41 PM
And you've yet to cite it.

Stop being a chickenshit, I cited your citing the list.

Thread
09-04-2016, 03:40 PM
Stop being a chickenshit, I cited your citing the list.

You're chock full of shit.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 03:41 PM
You're chock full of shit.

More chickenshitting, par for the course.

Thread
09-04-2016, 04:04 PM
More chickenshitting, par for the course.

You're chock full of shit.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 04:35 PM
You're chock full of shit.

Then put me on your list

Thread
09-04-2016, 05:18 PM
Then put me on your list

You're chock full of shit.

DMC
09-04-2016, 07:10 PM
Your existence is like a gruesome car accident...

You mean in that you know when you see me that your sister probably got cut in the backseat?

ECOV
09-04-2016, 07:42 PM
laker fans :lol

StrengthAndHonor
09-04-2016, 07:52 PM
You mean in that you know when you see me that your sister probably got cut in the backseat?
HA HA. Not funny...Sir!

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 08:02 PM
You're chock full of shit.

Then put me on your list

Thread
09-04-2016, 08:55 PM
Then put me on your list

You're chock full of shit.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 09:19 PM
You're chock full of shit.

You have put me on your list many times, why not another?

Thread
09-04-2016, 09:33 PM
You have put me on your list many times, why not another?

You're an asshole. You know damn good and well by list I mean lists of players, rankings. But, of course you can never have a modicum of relevance, or, self awareness. You stupid ass, you.

Keep it up and I'll leave on general principles because you're being such a total asshole.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 09:48 PM
You're an asshole. You know damn good and well by list I mean lists of players, rankings. But, of course you can never have a modicum of relevance, or, self awareness. You stupid ass, you.

Keep it up and I'll leave on general principles because you're being such a total asshole.

Then you should put me on your list

Thread
09-04-2016, 09:54 PM
Then you should put me on your list

That is exactly what I'm going to do if you persist. You'll be on that list with amb. And bub, that will be it twixt us.

baseline bum
09-04-2016, 09:59 PM
That is exactly what I'm going to do if you persist. You'll be on that list with amb. And bub, that will be it twixt us.

I've been on your list before, I'll live

Thread
09-04-2016, 10:23 PM
I've been on your list before, I'll live

Let us proceed...

poeticism707
09-04-2016, 10:47 PM
:lol Kirby

:cry how do you score 30 pts
:cry I'm jealous of Shaq, trade me pls

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Chris
09-05-2016, 12:06 AM
Solly Cholly!

You're on the list!

ambchang
09-05-2016, 01:14 PM
That is exactly what I'm going to do if you persist. You'll be on that list with amb. And bub, that will be it twixt us.

The list is called "list of people who thread are scared shitless of". You are one of those rare chickenshits who's sacred shitless.

KobeOwnsDuncan
09-05-2016, 01:17 PM
Funny thread OP. Spurfan was an Amy away from Duncan going to Orlando.

Brazil
09-06-2016, 04:23 PM
You guys do it all the time. Big belly laughs over nothing.

in all honesty this is very true

you have a point here