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Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 04:18 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/08/23/0823-magic-johnson-hillary-clinton-instagram-5.jpg

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 04:19 PM
F*ck. Second time in a week I meant to put this downstairs.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 04:21 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/08/23/082216-magic-johnson-hillary-clinton-kal-1080x608-1.jpg

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 04:21 PM
Meanwhile, TD is telling Obama to fuck off like a boss.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 04:24 PM
Look at him pander:

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screenshot-2015-04-13-at-11.28.58-AM.png

dabom
09-04-2016, 04:37 PM
Shut up you faggot. How fucking retarded do you gotta be. Take this shit downstairs. :lmao

DeRozan m8
09-04-2016, 04:51 PM
LOL this is so fitting.

Laker legends bowing down to the lowest of the low, whilst Spur legends tell the globalist scum to get f*cked.

You can't make this sh*t up.

dabom
09-04-2016, 04:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhb9cPECYAElwyn.jpg

Guess Pop is scum now. Ya newbies need to learn who your audience is dummies. :lol

Mikeanaro
09-04-2016, 04:54 PM
I have a dream.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-04-2016, 04:56 PM
LOL this is so fitting.

Laker legends bowing down to the lowest of the low, whilst Spur legends tell the globalist scum to get f*cked.

You can't make this sh*t up.
Huh?

Pop is a big HRC fan.

InRareForm
09-04-2016, 05:00 PM
Im with her

elege
09-04-2016, 05:33 PM
I think it's great that Pop has run the most successful franchise in the past 20 years with essentially a socially democratic ideology.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 06:24 PM
S

GFY

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 06:25 PM
LOL this is so fitting.

Laker legends bowing down to the lowest of the low, whilst Spur legends tell the globalist scum to get f*cked.

You can't make this sh*t up.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 06:30 PM
Huh?

Pop is a big HRC fan.

Not sure that Pop take politics all that serious, tbh.

dbestpro
09-04-2016, 06:30 PM
I think it's great that Pop has run the most successful franchise in the past 20 years with essentially a socially democratic ideology.

You mean like keeping things in budget?

Mr. Body
09-04-2016, 06:43 PM
Not sure that Pop take politics all that serious, tbh.

You're a dumbass and Pop is a big ole liberal. Deal.

elege
09-04-2016, 06:43 PM
You mean like keeping things in budget?

Exactly. Like spending money on technology to promote health and asking the big players to take pay cuts for the betterment of the team.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 06:46 PM
Pop is a big ole liberal. Deal.

I know what his politcal slant is. I just don't know that it's all that big a deal to him all the same. He donated $5K to Obama in 12. I think that's probably more about street cred than it is about being a hardcore koolaid guzzler.

ceperez
09-04-2016, 07:46 PM
You're a dumbass and Pop is a big ole liberal. Deal.

Almost everyone in the Spurs team (players and coaches) are of the liberal persuasion.

I don't recall any god-fearing conservative Spurs player in the roster.

The only guy who was religious last season was Rasual Butler... but he got kicked out of the team!

UNT Eagles 2016
09-04-2016, 07:55 PM
Almost everyone in the Spurs team (players and coaches) are of the liberal persuasion.

I don't recall any god-fearing conservative Spurs player in the roster.

The only guy who was religious last season was Rasual Butler... but he got kicked out of the team!
Yeah, but it hasn't always been that way for the Spurs... the team did a 180 on that in around 2001/2002... all the right wing leaning religious mainstay guys got old and retired/left or got traded, and the Spurs transitioned into a globalistic, utopian, rather socialistic organization which won 3, you could argue 4 championships.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-04-2016, 07:59 PM
Exactly. Like spending money on technology to promote health and asking the big players to take pay cuts for the betterment of the team.
It's funny because these are the most intelligent yet altruistic guys in the league, but you have most players in the league greedily squeezing every penny they can out of their teams (so they can have more hoes and diamonds and pimped out cars) yet mindlessly voting Democrat because they've been suckered into thinking the libs stand for anyone of color (they just use them as a foundation tool/platform). Crazy how polyticks works.

gambit1990
09-04-2016, 08:04 PM
trump as president would be pretty scary tbh.

can't stand hillary...

sucks.

not that it would've ever happened... but i wanted it be hillary vs trump vs bernie vs cruz in the general election. that way the republican vote would also be split.

UZER
09-04-2016, 08:43 PM
I think it's great that Pop has run the most successful franchise in the past 20 years with essentially a socially democratic ideology.

Except that Pop is a dictator.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 09:14 PM
Yeah, but it hasn't always been that way for the Spurs... the team did a 180 on that in around 2001/2002... all the right wing leaning religious mainstay guys got old and retired/left or got traded, and the Spurs transitioned into a globalistic, utopian, rather socialistic organization which won 3, you could argue 4 championships.

Are you actually claiming that global politics is the reason the Spurs won championships?

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 09:15 PM
It's funny because these are the most intelligent yet altruistic guys in the league, but you have most players in the league greedily squeezing every penny they can out of their teams (so they can have more hoes and diamonds and pimped out cars) yet mindlessly voting Democrat because they've been suckered into thinking the libs stand for anyone of color (they just use them as a foundation tool/platform). Crazy how polyticks works.

To be fair, they don't vote. :lmao

spurs10
09-04-2016, 09:25 PM
I know what his politcal slant is. I just don't know that it's all that big a deal to him all the same. He donated $5K to Obama in 12. I think that's probably more about street cred than it is about being a hardcore koolaid guzzler. Pop is very well educated and well read. I'm sure it's quite a "big deal" to him who is the leader of our country.

Spurtacular
09-04-2016, 09:38 PM
Pop is very well educated and well read. I'm sure it's quite a "big deal" to him who is the leader of our country.

I don't see it that way. He's a guy who reads the room. He doesn't want to cut against the grain. If he were still in the air force, he'd have given $5K to Mitt.

spurs10
09-05-2016, 12:41 AM
I don't see it that way. He's a guy who reads the room. He doesn't want to cut against the grain. If he were still in the air force, he'd have given $5K to Mitt. No telling what he thinks in his heart, but he just seems like guy who doesn't straddle the fence much. However you could be absolutely right.

I do know one thing for sure- October 3rd is a long ways away! :flag:

skulls138
09-05-2016, 01:06 AM
Meanwhile, TD is telling Obama to fuck off like a boss.Im pretty sure the quote was "you know Im not into that kind of thing" not "fuck off Obama". I understand though how details sometimes get in the way of a good story.

Mal
09-05-2016, 05:17 AM
Look at him pander:

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screenshot-2015-04-13-at-11.28.58-AM.png

Should they be excited about wellfare, foodstamps and social benefits without giving society anything back ?

Em-City
09-05-2016, 05:56 AM
politics not that important to him, yet he donates $5k to obama's campaign in 2012:
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/08/18/nba-political-donations-to-mitt-romney-and-barack-obama-revealed/


politics not that important, yet he choses to talk politics with his players:
" Sure. I think it’s really important because it’s the right thing to do. We spend a good deal of time discussing politics, race, food and wine, international events, and other things just to impart the notion that a life of satisfaction cannot be based on sports alone."
http://hoopshype.com/2015/10/13/forces-of-character-a-conversation-with-gregg-popovich/

DeadlyDynasty
09-05-2016, 06:18 AM
Pretty bad, tbh...hopefully Erv hit it so we won't have to deal with her for 4+ years. Old age and immunodeficiency are a vicious combo

DeRozan m8
09-05-2016, 06:51 AM
Seriously, how fucked is the system and election.

Like, these 2 are the two options they give you.

What an insult.

It's literally a circus

Bynumite
09-05-2016, 08:14 AM
Hope the rooks had a chance to meet the future president since they're gonna have to make a few trips to the White House in the future :hat

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 10:34 AM
Are you actually claiming that global politics is the reason the Spurs won championships?

no, it was the franchise political/cultural situation versus the other 29 teams. It goes for any league with a salary cap; the team with the most impact players who take the most significant paycuts is always going to have the best chance to win.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 10:38 AM
Should they be excited about wellfare, foodstamps and social benefits without giving society anything back ?

Yep. Free shit galore and mooching... and HRC foreign policy wise is on the same side as her husband, Bush and to some degree Obama... she like the others is going to ride and die with NATO including terroristic regimes in Turkey and Saudi Arabia instead of changing our allegiances away from the radical Islamist Wahhabi Sunnis to the more reasonable Russians and more secular regimes such as in Syria...

That's why the Democrats don't want to use radical Islam as part of their argument. Because their arteries are too connected to radical jihadi government nations in OPEC like Saudi, Qatar and others. Trump wants to cut the cords and ally with non-religious people such as in Russia, that to me is a breath of fresh air, I like it.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 10:44 AM
And yes I acknowledge Trump winning would mean some short term inflation and rise in some interest rates...between the tariffs and cutting off ties with radical Islamic oil partners, those aren't good but they might be a necessary evil... getting Americans without a college degree back to work and cutting off the blood (money) supply to ISIS and other terrorist groups funded by the radical Sunni portion of the OPEC cartel...

gambit1990
09-05-2016, 11:56 AM
Hillary Clinton's favorability ratings have plummeted to their lowest point of any time during her 25-year career in public service, a new poll out Wednesday showed.

A whopping 56% of Americans said they had an unfavorable view of the Democratic presidential nominee, the latest Washington Post / ABC News poll showed.

trump doing even worse...

dabom
09-05-2016, 01:05 PM
Meanwhile Republicans keep giving Billions of dollars in tax breaks to the rich and people are mad that a small very tiny portion in comparison goes out as welfare.

There is a Welfare state for the rich and Republicans keep giving them more tax breaks while trying to cut programs for the poor. Makes total sense. :lol

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 01:09 PM
Meanwhile Republicans keep giving Billions of dollars in tax breaks to the rich and people are mad that a small very tiny portion in comparison goes out as welfare.

There is a Welfare state for the rich and Republicans keep giving them more tax breaks while trying to cut programs for the poor. Makes total sense. :lol
The problem isn't the 1% having to pay higher taxes. The problem is the democrats imposing high taxes such as the Obamacare bullshit which make it HARD FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES. They force middle class people to have it rough by having to pay for expensive insurance even if they're young and don't need it. That's anti-freedom.

dabom
09-05-2016, 01:12 PM
The problem isn't the 1% having to pay higher taxes. The problem is the democrats imposing high taxes such as the Obamacare bullshit which make it HARD FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES. They force middle class people to have it rough by having to pay for expensive insurance even if they're young and don't need it. That's anti-freedom.

Other countries have Universal healthcare. It's not anti-freedom you stupid fuck. :lol

dabom
09-05-2016, 01:13 PM
The last thing I want to see is another republican fuck up the economy again. :lol

Bartleby
09-05-2016, 01:47 PM
Trump wants to cut the cords and ally with non-religious people such as in Russia, that to me is a breath of fresh air, I like it.

:lol

What an idiot.

gambit1990
09-05-2016, 01:54 PM
The problem isn't the 1% having to pay higher taxes. The problem is the democrats imposing high taxes such as the Obamacare bullshit which make it HARD FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES. They force middle class people to have it rough by having to pay for expensive insurance even if they're young and don't need it. That's anti-freedom.
:lmao

so people don't need insurance if they're young? because young people never get sick or injured? :lol

and it's not anti freedom, chief justice roberts upheld the mandate as within the government's taxing power.

the affordable care act prevents insurers from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. so it literally allows people to get to sustain themselves.

found a gif of UNT:
https://media.giphy.com/media/pNe0GxWBypmF2/giphy.gif

Spurtacular
09-05-2016, 02:01 PM
Im pretty sure the quote was "you know Im not into that kind of thing" not "fuck off Obama". I understand though how details sometimes get in the way of a good story.

Subtext, bro.

DeRozan m8
09-05-2016, 04:43 PM
Meanwhile Republicans keep giving Billions of dollars in tax breaks to the rich and people are mad that a small very tiny portion in comparison goes out as welfare.

There is a Welfare state for the rich and Republicans keep giving them more tax breaks while trying to cut programs for the poor. Makes total sense. :lol

Umm... You realise democrats have been giving billions in tax breaks to the rich and Hillary is in bed with all these people?

Or do you just choose to ignore it to suit your agenda?

Stupid c*nt.

Democan. Republicrat.

Same shit

spurtech09
09-05-2016, 05:43 PM
Obama,Hillary, and Trump are all in it together......That's why I don't vote.....The only one that is going to save us is Jesus Christ.....Focus on Jesus......Not man..

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 05:51 PM
:lmao

so people don't need insurance if they're young? because young people never get sick or injured? :lol

and it's not anti freedom, chief justice roberts upheld the mandate as within the government's taxing power.

the affordable care act prevents insurers from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. so it literally allows people to get to sustain themselves.

found a gif of UNT:
https://media.giphy.com/media/pNe0GxWBypmF2/giphy.gif

It protects them from denying, but it doesn't protect them from price-gouging or increasing prices beyond the US inflation rate... and they balloon it by a ridiculous amount while the executives get rich. THAT is what the government needs to regulate, the prices... price gouging on inelastic things like medical insurance and medical procedures/office visits etc especially if they're going to require everyone including young adults have insurance.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 05:53 PM
Obama,Hillary, and Trump are all in it together......That's why I don't vote.....The only one that is going to save us is Jesus Christ.....Focus on Jesus......Not man..

no... Obama, Bush and Hillary/Bill Clinton I could see... but Trump is a completely different animal... Trump wants to ally us with Russia, Syrian government and Iran and completely renounce our alliance with the thugs who have been feeding ISIS, al-Qaeda etc and have thus been killing us... Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greater Sunni OPEC, etc.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 05:55 PM
Other countries have Universal healthcare. It's not anti-freedom you stupid fuck. :lol

Universal/socialist healthcare is better than the current system with Obamacare/iACA and the insurance companies, doctors, and lawsuit plaintiffs getting rich off all of us. Only thing is with a socialist healthcare system (Canada, etc) you need more doctors and more establishments to avoid long lines.

spurtech09
09-05-2016, 05:57 PM
no... Obama, Bush and Hillary/Bill Clinton I could see... but Trump is a completely different animal... Trump wants to ally us with Russia, Syrian government and Iran and completely renounce our alliance with the thugs who have been feeding ISIS, al-Qaeda etc and have thus been killing us... Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greater Sunni OPEC, etc.Will see but I don't trust trump.....Trump is all about Money.....

UNT Eagles 2016
09-05-2016, 06:02 PM
Will see but I don't trust trump.....Trump is all about Money.....

Trump is about glamor but he's also about common sense... he wants to do the right thing which is best for America and Americans long term... Cutting off ties with Sunni OPEC and Saudi Arabia will be expensive for our oil supply but we will be able to transition into trading with more reasonable non-Sunni partners such as Russia, et al... Carter and Reagan both supported jihad but in a different way. Nixon getting impeached was the beginning of the end for greatness in America. No more funding for Apollo missions and the like, no more World Trade Center's, no more manufacturing jobs staying in the U.S., Walmart and other companies sprouting to the top and the country is dominated by our trade deficit and lack of sustainable jobs for willing workers without a college degree... Trump will get these votes... Trump will impose a 35% tariff on the Walmart's of the world who save every penny they can by producing overseas and globalizing. This will raise prices domestically but be much better for our overall economy.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-05-2016, 10:31 PM
Seriously, how fucked is the system and election.

Like, these 2 are the two options they give you.

What an insult.

It's literally a circus


Umm... You realise democrats have been giving billions in tax breaks to the rich and Hillary is in bed with all these people?

Or do you just choose to ignore it to suit your agenda?

Stupid c*nt.

Democan. Republicrat.

Same shit

Good summary in those two quotes. The two-party system has been bought and paid for by Big Finance, Big Fossil Fuels, Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Alcohol, etc., and none of them have the interests of the citizenry at heart, only profit, most of which flows to the owners of capital (ie. the top 10%) which is taxed at a far lower rates than wages/salaries. If you want to know why wealth inequality in US and across developed world is sky-rocketing, that's why.

The political-economic system is fundamentally broken and in need of sweeping reform.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-05-2016, 10:38 PM
Trump is about glamor but he's also about common sense... he wants to do the right thing which is best for America and Americans long term... Cutting off ties with Sunni OPEC and Saudi Arabia will be expensive for our oil supply but we will be able to transition into trading with more reasonable non-Sunni partners such as Russia, et al... Carter and Reagan both supported jihad but in a different way. Nixon getting impeached was the beginning of the end for greatness in America. No more funding for Apollo missions and the like, no more World Trade Center's, no more manufacturing jobs staying in the U.S., Walmart and other companies sprouting to the top and the country is dominated by our trade deficit and lack of sustainable jobs for willing workers without a college degree... Trump will get these votes... Trump will impose a 35% tariff on the Walmart's of the world who save every penny they can by producing overseas and globalizing. This will raise prices domestically but be much better for our overall economy.

:lol getting your imported oil from Russia. You realise that US-Russian relations are frosty at best, and that Russia is forging closer ties with the Chinese (a Russia-China vs US superpower struggle just over the horizon, and set to kick off in the South-China Sea, vital to global trade), but you want to rely on them for half your oil supply? :lmao

And you want to give the nuclear codes to a massive narcissist who knows nothing about foreign policy and believes in "limited nuclear war"?

:rolleyes

PS I'm no Clinton supporter - she may as well be a Republican.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-06-2016, 08:07 AM
:lol getting your imported oil from Russia. You realise that US-Russian relations are frosty at best, and that Russia is forging closer ties with the Chinese (a Russia-China vs US superpower struggle just over the horizon, and set to kick off in the South-China Sea, vital to global trade), but you want to rely on them for half your oil supply? :lmao

And you want to give the nuclear codes to a massive narcissist who knows nothing about foreign policy and believes in "limited nuclear war"?

:rolleyes

PS I'm no Clinton supporter - she may as well be a Republican.
I'd ally with the more reasonable minded atheists in Russia and China if it means everybody against the radical religious crazies in the hot and dry part of the world.

sammy
09-06-2016, 11:44 AM
I'm with her as well!

sammy
09-06-2016, 11:56 AM
:lol getting your imported oil from Russia. You realise that US-Russian relations are frosty at best, and that Russia is forging closer ties with the Chinese (a Russia-China vs US superpower struggle just over the horizon, and set to kick off in the South-China Sea, vital to global trade), but you want to rely on them for half your oil supply? :lmao

And you want to give the nuclear codes to a massive narcissist who knows nothing about foreign policy and believes in "limited nuclear war"?

:rolleyes

I agree with you! Trump is nothing but a racist who would sell out our country and our ideals to Russia! He's loyal to Russia and China! He idolizes Saddam Hussein, Kim Jun Un, and Mussolini as great leaders who are the most evil dictators! WTH! He's a disgrace to humankind and a wannabe dictator! His tax plan is goes to all of the wealthy and nothing to the middle class because there will be no middle class! This fool is a traitor plain and simple! He doesn't care about the veterans and has lied about donations to the vets but was called out when he supposedly donated money and then had to pony up after it was revealed he gave nothing! He's in debt up to $650 million to China & Russia as he's worth $200 million so he's in the negative $450 million, this fool is a horrible business man who scams on not paying his debts to the little guy who builds his hotels and casinos by claiming multiple bankruptcies while not paying the plumbers, constructions workers, electricians and everyone who built his hotels! He's a real piece of work! He has no honor or integrity! He's so afraid of showing his tax returns because he's hiding is donations from Russia and China, his poor business management and probably showing illegal write-offs which is probably why he is being audited! Don't vote for this fool for the good of our country!

PS I'm no Clinton supporter - she may as well be a Republican.

sammy
09-06-2016, 12:01 PM
:lmao

so people don't need insurance if they're young? because young people never get sick or injured? :lol

and it's not anti freedom, chief justice roberts upheld the mandate as within the government's taxing power.

the affordable care act prevents insurers from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. so it literally allows people to get to sustain themselves.

found a gif of UNT:
https://media.giphy.com/media/pNe0GxWBypmF2/giphy.gif


So true gambit1990! Love the Gif for UNT. LOL! :toast:rollin:rollin

SupremeGuy
09-06-2016, 01:06 PM
Look at him pander:

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screenshot-2015-04-13-at-11.28.58-AM.pngBecause the democrats have done great things for any of those groups of people in the last 60 years. :lmao

poop
09-06-2016, 02:54 PM
Maybe thats why Hillary nearly keeled over on stage yesterday in a solid 4 minute coughing and wheezing fit...too much time hanging with Tainted Johnson.

Lots of libtard kids on this board apparently....Obamacare is circling the drain these days btw. Its about to finally implode, not that the msm has been telling anyone, just like the near total blackout on hillary's epic Doc Holliday on tombstone impression and her later having to leave her first press conference in almost a year after 5 minutes cause she couldnt even speak.

Can you even IMAGINE how bad the media would be all over it if that had been Trump??!

UNT Eagles 2016
09-06-2016, 02:54 PM
Because the democrats have done great things for any of those groups of people in the last 60 years. :lmao

But the left will continue to push that

Spurtacular
09-06-2016, 03:07 PM
Because the democrats have done great things for any of those groups of people in the last 60 years. :lmao

Free money for babies, free money to kill the babies. It's not so bad if you're aiming low enough.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-06-2016, 05:53 PM
I'd ally with the more reasonable minded atheists in Russia and China if it means everybody against the radical religious crazies in the hot and dry part of the world.

That's not the question. The question is whether they'd ally with the US. And given that they both hate the US the answer is no.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-07-2016, 08:11 AM
That's not the question. The question is whether they'd ally with the US. And given that they both hate the US the answer is no.

I don't think Russia really hates us these days. This isn't the 1950s, 60s, or 70s. The Russians are some of the most intelligent and rational people in the world and they are willing to be diplomatic with us as long as we are fair to them, which we have not been for so long due to our "allegiances" with those who strive to bomb our cities and rape our women and kill our children in the name of Allah. Crazy asylum folks aside, Russians would never "suicide bomb" anyone. They are too reasonable and practical and value their lives and worldly happiness as we do, perhaps to an even greater degree as they are much less likely to be religious.

China is a bit of a different animal. The Chinese are molded by their ancient Confucianist/Taoist traditions, which emphasize the values of masculinity and power, family and national loyalty, and saving face at all costs. Communism in China works for this very reason. The Chinese are opportunistically capitalistic as well, taking advantage of business opportunities with us and others as they see them to their benefit. Many Chinese citizens idolize the American way and culture, but others, particularly those of position, envy us and disapprove of Western corporations "using" their land and people to strengthen their brand and business operations.


That said, if Trump wins the election and implements his 35% imports tariff, cheap labor in China and similar places may no longer be so profitable. Americans will get back to work and prices may increase in the near-term. However, the Chinese would have to appreciate Trump's efforts in cracking down on corporations which occupy and pollute their lands, weaken their currency and use their citizens as sweatshop bodies for a bowl of rice a day. Everyone from Detroit to Shanghai would benefit.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-07-2016, 09:30 PM
I don't think Russia really hates us these days. This isn't the 1950s, 60s, or 70s. The Russians are some of the most intelligent and rational people in the world and they are willing to be diplomatic with us as long as we are fair to them, which we have not been for so long due to our "allegiances" with those who strive to bomb our cities and rape our women and kill our children in the name of Allah. Crazy asylum folks aside, Russians would never "suicide bomb" anyone. They are too reasonable and practical and value their lives and worldly happiness as we do, perhaps to an even greater degree as they are much less likely to be religious.

China is a bit of a different animal. The Chinese are molded by their ancient Confucianist/Taoist traditions, which emphasize the values of masculinity and power, family and national loyalty, and saving face at all costs. Communism in China works for this very reason. The Chinese are opportunistically capitalistic as well, taking advantage of business opportunities with us and others as they see them to their benefit. Many Chinese citizens idolize the American way and culture, but others, particularly those of position, envy us and disapprove of Western corporations "using" their land and people to strengthen their brand and business operations.


That said, if Trump wins the election and implements his 35% imports tariff, cheap labor in China and similar places may no longer be so profitable. Americans will get back to work and prices may increase in the near-term. However, the Chinese would have to appreciate Trump's efforts in cracking down on corporations which occupy and pollute their lands, weaken their currency and use their citizens as sweatshop bodies for a bowl of rice a day. Everyone from Detroit to Shanghai would benefit.

The Russians despise the US. The US has been monkeying around in what they see as their region (Ukraine, support for Israel, conflict over drilling the Arctic, etc) and they aren't happy about it. Russia sees itself as strong again and they aren't going to take shit from anyone, let alone ally with the US. You are forgetting that Putin was forged as an intelligence officer at the height of the Cold War, and is also a megalomanical narcissist (much like Trump), a personality type that does not play well with others.

China owns a large chunk of US debt, and the are posturing in the South China Sea as a pretext to disrupting US influence in the region, particularly trade routes. China hates the fact the US has 75,000 personnel stationed on Okinawa (and hundreds of thousands more throughout Japan, Korea and the Phillipines), and they will never forget what the Japanese did to them in the 1930s. And guess who keeps Japan safe atm? The US. China has it's own interests and they don't align with the US's.

If Trump wins the election it will result in global disaster, but he won't. Not a hope in hell. HRC is also a devil, but she's not a loudmouthed, blatantly ignorant snakeoil salesman who think the nuclear codes are an option if he doesn't get his way. The citizenry of the US will recognise that distinction at the ballot box.

Since when did Trump pretend he's going to do anything about the environment? He holds the environment in contempt!

UNT Eagles 2016
09-08-2016, 08:34 AM
Since when did Trump pretend he's going to do anything about the environment? He holds the environment in contempt!

I doubt he really cares about the Chinese people getting lung cancer from inhaling factory smoke, but he'll brag about that if it's something that goes in his favor.