20 years since Tupac passed away

[Bynumite]

RIP to the GOAT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgI8qdijcFg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPw3s3Un4CE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho

[leemajors]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0FEUZw3auk

[clambake]

black lives matter

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyypOJofZmI

[Fabbs]

Amen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs1lwYvbhc4

[cd021]

Not the goat put top 10 easily and possibly top 5 best MC's.

Personal top 10:
1. Holla If You Hear Me (obvious choice tbh)
2. California Love
3. To Live and Die In L.A. (Severely underrated track)
4. Dear Mama
5. It Aint Easy (Also severely underrated track)
6. Changes
7. Keep Your Head Up
8. Me Against The World
9. Only God Can Judge Me
10. Unconditional Love

[Trill Clinton]

RIP to my personal GOAT

Classic XXL article: The Making of Makaveli The Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory album (https://escobar300.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/classic-xxl-article-the-making-of-makaveli-the-don-killuminati-7-day-theory-album/)<------must read



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS6OB2W1oRI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQZqPi1aHNo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqJAnQTwmJs


King of Pain: 20 Years Later, Tupac Shakur’s Problematic Genius Still Haunts Us (http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/09/king-of-pain-20-years-later-tupac-shakurs-problematic-genius-still-haunts-us/)

Some excerpts:

The aphorism goes, “Stars are born, not made.” I understood this twice in childhood: the first time I saw Magic Johnson on television, and the moment in Digital Underground’s “Same Song” video when a resplendent Tupac Shakur burst into the public consciousness on a chariot, wearing a dashiki and kufi, and holding a scepter that looked like it was fashioned out of black cool itself:

Now I clown around when I hang around with the Underground
Girls who used to frown, say I’m down when I come around
Gas me and when they passed me they used to dis me
Harass me but now they ask me if they can kiss me …


When I rewatched the video last week, it struck me that the men carrying the chariot looked like pallbearers. Even in his figurative birth as a star, his inevitably early demise winked at us. The two always moved hand in hand.

Scientific American (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-is-a-star-born/) says a star is born when atoms of light elements are pressured significantly enough to undergo fusion. The same article notes all stars are the result of a balance of forces; that once fusion is achieved, stars exert an outward pressure. As long as the inward and outward forces are of equal intensity, the star remains stable.

Tupac epitomized fusion—cultural fusion—and maybe because of that, his star was never a stable one. The intensity of society he absorbed at every stop and the intensity he projected back at it were rarely in step.

He spent the first decade of his life in Harlem, the next four years in Baltimore, and came of age in Oakland, Calif., before his celebrity put him in a state of constant transience, living on the road, in Los Angeles, and in a jail cell. He was at once everyone and no one; as rich in spirit as he was, he was also spiritually homeless. That made him quintessentially black in America.

He was and remains a Jesus figure for so many black men not because of his Makaveli album-cover art, but because he let himself belong to us. His love, his pain, his anger, his intensity, his generosity, his recklessness, his paranoia, his vulnerability … He put it all on display.

He was as naked an artist as I have ever known. No one had offered such access to his life, and the more titillating episodes made us wonder if he hadn’t entered a self-perpetuating cycle—it was tough to tell whether the music was being driven by his life experiences or was driving them. To some, he was hip-hop’s great method actor; to many others, he was the realest.

His energy was frenetic, his enthusiasm infectious. I could never figure out if he was running from or running toward something, but I knew I was willing to follow him wherever the journey took him, and me. The journey, in Taoist fashion, turned out to be the destination. In retrospect, I wish he would have kept more of himself for himself. It’s not coincidental that he hasn’t even been allowed his own death.

Everything about Tupac belonged to us in the end. In a very figurative sense, he died for the sins of our society and our culture of celebrity worship, violence, crass materialism and black death.

All these years later, Tupac is whoever we decide he is. He still functions as a funhouse mirror, and whatever we project onto him comes back to us in a larger, stranger reflection. He was a prophet, a player, a thug, a poet, a Panther, a prince. He navigated Nate Parker’s path of sexual assault, but came out largely unscathed in terms of public perception. Most of us were always willing to give Tupac the benefit of the doubt, partially because he was handsome, irrepressible and charismatic, but mostly because he was a black man who loved himself because of his blackness rather than in spite of it.

King of Pain: 20 Years Later, Tupac Shakur’s Problematic Genius Still Haunts Us (http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/09/king-of-pain-20-years-later-tupac-shakurs-problematic-genius-still-haunts-us/)

[baseline bum]

Not the goat put top 10 easily and possibly top 5 best MC's.

Personal top 10:
1. Holla If You Hear Me (obvious choice tbh)
2. California Love
3. To Live and Die In L.A. (Severely underrated track)
4. Dear Mama
5. It Aint Easy (Also severely underrated track)
6. Changes
7. Keep Your Head Up
8. Me Against The World
9. Only God Can Judge Me
10. Unconditional Love

If I had to pick a top 10 2Pac joints I'd go with

1. Str8 Ballin
2. Brenda's Got a Baby
3. Holler if Ya Hear Me
4. So Many Tears
5. Souljas Story
6. Hail Mary
7. I Get Around
8. Cradle to the Grave
9. Papa'z Song
10. California Love

His verse closing out Digital Underground's Same Song was killer too

[Clipper Nation]

Rakim and Big L are the co-GOATs. Pac isn't even in the conversation. He was one of the biggest Scarface biters in an industry full of them at the time.

Looking back, the whole East Coast vs. West Coast thing back then was ridiculous. Tupac was born in New York and raised in Baltimore. Biggie's flow and delivery were plagiarized from a West Coast rapper, King Tee. The fact that they both got killed over that stupid feud is absurd.

[Avante]

Nobody loves music anymore than I do and my home library would rival anyones, I have everything from African tribal music to that rap shit. What is with the stupid lyrics in these dumb rap songs? Talk about classless, sheesh~~~



Right here is why we see all the problems we do with cops and blacks. Young kids looking up to this...

Shakur began his career as a roadie (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Road_crew), backup dancer (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Backup_dancer), and MC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Master_of_ceremonies) for the alternative hip hop (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Alternative_hip_hop) group Digital Underground (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Digital_Underground), eventually branching off as a solo artist.[7] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-TSTA-7)[8] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-TSHSD-8)[9] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-HTP-330-9) The themes of most of Shakur's songs revolved around the violence and hardship in inner cities, racism, and other social problems. Both of his parents and several other people in his family were members of the Black Panther Party (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Black_Panther_Party), whose ideals were reflected in his songs. During the latter part of his career, Shakur was a vocal participant during the East Coast–West Coast hip hop rivalry (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/East_Coast%E2%80%93West_Coast_hip_hop_rivalry), becoming involved in conflicts with other rappers, producers, and record-label staff members, most notably The Notorious B.I.G. (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/The_Notorious_B.I.G.) and the label Bad Boy Records (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Bad_Boy_Records).[10] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-10)

[Brazil]

^ Avante fagging up yet another thread per par

just die already old fuck

[Avante]

^ Avante fagging up yet another thread per par

just die already old fuck

Now think, what happens when young black kids hear this stupid shit?

How about some reality and cool the hero worship. Then we hear people...."why do blacks get treated like they do by the cops".....it should be obvious.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WRrAeQqVs8

Nobody here is as into black music like I am, I do start at the beginnings of it all. But the shit we see from some of these idiot rappers is ridiculous and just bad.

[140]

^ Avante fagging up yet another thread per par

just die already old fuck

[Brazil]

Now think, what happens when young black kids hear this stupid shit?



I prefer 10000 times that my kids listen to 2pac rather than meeting you in a bar tbh fwiw

[Avante]

I prefer 10000 times that my kids listen to 2pac rather than meeting you in a bar tbh fwiw

Well if they are in a bar then they are not kids at 21. And if younger then what dad is taking his young kids to bars?

I would never tell kids to........ fuck the police, how damn stupid is that?

Kids look up to these guys, so ya send the message....FUCK THE POLICE...??? Talk about a fucking retard, there it is.

[HarlemHeat37]

As a rapper, he was good, but not great IMO..however, he's the biggest and most influential cultural icon in rap history, tbh..despite becoming a mainstream celebrity, he remained outspoken about issues that plagued the Black community, and did it in an intelligent way, unlike a clown like Kanye..

I wish he was still alive today so we could get him on a track with Drake..would be like Jordan vs. Lebron, Ali vs. Tyson type shit..

Favorite Pac track:mhdOHwdjhKs

[Avante]

What is this shit?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ELnDPmI8w

Kids hear this and what do they think?

[140]

As a rapper, he was good, but not great IMO..however, he's the biggest and most influential cultural icon in rap history, tbh..despite becoming a mainstream celebrity, he remained outspoken about issues that plagued the Black community, and did it in an intelligent way, unlike a clown like Kanye..

I wish he was still alive today so we could get him on a track with Drake..would be like Jordan vs. Lebron, Ali vs. Tyson type shit..
:lmao

[benefactor]

^ Avante fagging up yet another thread per par

just die already old fuck

[benefactor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ctaYR2nfg

[Avante]

translation

Come on Avante, what's wrong with young blacks singing about pussy and FUCK THE POLICE....well? That will help the situation, you don't see this?

[Avante]

How about some real talent?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc&amp;list=PLNF1TtPlNbF87k2HshqLCpvE FTSlrspTB

Show some class, don't come off as some dumb street thug.


Garbage has been going on for ages in music, nothing new about it. But, it takes little talent to do this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPCmIxv-3k

[Avante]

The cops are out there in that world. They see that thuggery, they see these young black kids hanging on streets because mom can't handle him and dad is long gone. They hear this shit music singing about pussy, drugs...FUCK THE POLICE.

Oh hell yes nothing helps this sad situation better than shit songs by dumb ass rappers. Most of them having never read a book.

[clambake]

r kelly is your hero, right?

[koriwhat]

Rakim and Big L are the co-GOATs. Pac isn't even in the conversation. He was one of the biggest Scarface biters in an industry full of them at the time.

Looking back, the whole East Coast vs. West Coast thing back then was ridiculous. Tupac was born in New York and raised in Baltimore. Biggie's flow and delivery were plagiarized from a West Coast rapper, King Tee. The fact that they both got killed over that stupid feud is absurd.

Scarface, big l and spice1 plus 2pac... Thes best!

[benefactor]

r kelly is your hero, right?
:lol...beat me to it

[koriwhat]

As a rapper, he was good, but not great IMO..
I wish he was still alive today so we could get him on a track with Drake..

Your opinion sucks and is worthless just like your fuck boy the fake ass studio gangster drake.

[koriwhat]

The cops are out there in that world. They see that thuggery, they see these young black kids hanging on streets because mom can't handle him and dad is long gone. They hear this shit music singing about pussy, drugs...FUCK THE POLICE.

Oh hell yes nothing helps this sad situation better than shit songs by dumb ass rappers. Most of them having never read a book.

You're an idiot.

[Avante]

You're an idiot.


Dude, I'm the guy who can show you black music roots as far back as it goes, ok? This rap shit is fucking stupid, got it?

Selling....FUCK THE POLICE.....says it all. How fucking dumb does it get? THEN..."why do the cops pick on blacks..?"


School in session.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYHSlEssYY

[clambake]

Dude, I'm the guy who can show you black music roots as far back as it goes, ok? This rap shit is fucking stupid, got it?

Selling....FUCK THE POLICE.....says it all. How fucking dumb does it get? THEN..."why do the cops pick on blacks..?"

awesome!

do you have any r. kelly trivia?

[Avante]

awesome!

do you have any r. kelly trivia?

Just stick to humping legs, ok stupid?

[DeadlyDynasty]

my favs...

1. Staring Through My Rearview (one of his 500 posthumous songs:lol)
2. Shorty Wanna Be a Thug
3. Holla if You Hear Me
4. Holla at Me
5. Can't C Me
6. Thug Luv (w/ Bone)...I caught a plane out to Cleveland late last evenin', to help my niggas clean up some niggas no longer breathin'...
7. Bomb First/Hail Mary...great 1-2 punch to start. West coast ridah comin right behind ya, never shoulda fucked with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
8. Toss it Up
9. I Get Around
10. Hit 'em Up

[clambake]

Just stick to humping legs, ok stupid?

so....you don't have any r. kelly trivia?

go ahead......you can say it.....they know.

[Avante]

so....you don't have any r. kelly trivia?

go ahead......you can say it.....they know.


Bad case of Avanteitist right here with this freak.

[Avante]

Bottom line is this...

Tupac showing young blacks that (young) sex, drugs, violence is really really cool and everyone should try it is not good. He didn't know how impressionable young kids are? Or worst yet, he knew but just didn't care.

What was his target audience, yep, young black kids. Most coming from one parent homes, most without jobs, most hanging on streets looking for trouble. Oh hell yes, toss some....FUCK THE POLICE....out there, that helps.

Guy was a fucking idiot.

This is real talent.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuRhaDrnlWo

[clambake]

you know you like r kelly the best.

[Avante]

you know you like r kelly the best.

Just a very talented guy who came up like most blacks, yep, raised by his mom. Started out singing gospel, played some basketball.

Far more talented than Tupac.

[clambake]

trivia time: what do you and r kelly have in common?

[Avante]

trivia time: what do you and r kelly have in common?

Stupid, I only like 1 million recording artists, ok? Now think ya dumb fuck, ok?

[clambake]

answer the question

[Avante]

answer the question

We have nothing in common other than liking good music.

[Fabbs]

What does all of yous Tupacses listenas thinks of the rhtymn in sum owld skool wrap.
Likes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIXSfEYctmU

[Fabbs]

Not the goat put top 10 easily and possibly top 5 best MC's.

Personal top 10:
1. Holla If You Hear Me (obvious choice tbh)
Ins the openens scenes ofs the video, whose we sposed to believes killed da fatha?

[clambake]

We have nothing in common other than liking good music.

is that code for "children"?

[tlongII]

Tupac was great. One of the few rappers I actually liked.

[Avante]

is that code for "children"?

Dude, are you just retarded? You STILL don't get what I said about that sick shit? Why act like you can't read?

ONE MORE TIME

Any man messing with kids is a sick mutherfucker, that prick needs his nuts chopped off.

Now tell me stupid, how can you not get my stance on this sick shit? And I've said that from day one so why just make shit up?

[SpursforSix]

Just stick to humping legs, ok stupid?

Nice segue. Yep...that's Pac back there.

y38Ec57yMG8

[Avante]

Nice segue. Yep...that's Pac back there.

y38Ec57yMG8

Elevate your game amigo.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w0yqAdJ1iY

[SpursforSix]

Elevate your game amigo.




The track hits ya eardrum like a slug to ya chest

BKtMiCD_oqk

[Clipper Nation]

> "Elevate your game"
> Posts an USHER song

:lolld Fagg:lolt

[DJR210]

As a rapper, he was good, but not great IMO..however, he's the biggest and most influential cultural icon in rap history, tbh..despite becoming a mainstream celebrity, he remained outspoken about issues that plagued the Black community, and did it in an intelligent way, unlike a clown like Kanye..

I wish he was still alive today so we could get him on a track with Drake..would be like Jordan vs. Lebron, Ali vs. Tyson type shit..

Favorite Pac track:mhdOHwdjhKs

:lmao Drake

[Trill Clinton]

Elevate your game amigo.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w0yqAdJ1iY

wow lol:toast

[140]

Elevate your game amigo.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w0yqAdJ1iY
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

Now think, what happens when young black kids hear this stupid shit?

How about some reality and cool the hero worship. Then we hear people...."why do blacks get treated like they do by the cops".....it should be obvious.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WRrAeQqVs8

Nobody here is as into black music like I am, I do start at the beginnings of it all. But the shit we see from some of these idiot rappers is ridiculous and just bad.

You fuck kids dude...shut the fuck up..you should be in jail anyway....PAC was more of a man than you will ever be ya fucking shit river kiddie lover

[Koolaid_Man]

Bottom line is this...

Tupac showing young blacks that (young) sex, drugs, violence is really really cool and everyone should try it is not good. He didn't know how impressionable young kids are? Or worst yet, he knew but just didn't care.

What was his target audience, yep, young black kids. Most coming from one parent homes, most without jobs, most hanging on streets looking for trouble. Oh hell yes, toss some....FUCK THE POLICE....out there, that helps.

Guy was a fucking idiot.

This is real talent.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuRhaDrnlWo


Again what was in Hitlers CD case what was he listening too?

[Koolaid_Man]

As a rapper, he was good, but not great IMO..however, he's the biggest and most influential cultural icon in rap history, tbh..despite becoming a mainstream celebrity, he remained outspoken about issues that plagued the Black community, and did it in an intelligent way, unlike a clown like Kanye..

I wish he was still alive today so we could get him on a track with Drake..would be like Jordan vs. Lebron, Ali vs. Tyson type shit..

Favorite Pac track:mhdOHwdjhKs

There would be no Drake if PAC was alive...PACs death opened up the market on all the bullshit rap artists today...them niggas Master P and Lil Wayne and the Hotboys and all that shit would have never made it to mainstream had PAC been alive..hence no Drake... Just keeping it real since you don't realize how the shit works...PAC was suppressing the market by his fame....had he lived there would have been a different set of rappers / character's on the scene....his death had a domino effect on the type of music produced ......

[Koolaid_Man]

My fave PAC video of all time


https://youtube/WQxgHgRh95Y

[Chris]

He was another sellout who took it up the ass just like 90% of today's trap music. He glorified materialism and reaped his reward. Btw who did he battle to become the greatest? He would have been squashed by any above average East Coast MC from the 90's imo

"Got Shot 5 Times Still Breathin...2Pac! Thug Life!" -Your GOAT

RIP to the Media Martyr blood sacrifice

[DMC]

Who fucking cares. Niggas get shot every day all day long.

[cd021]

There would be no Drake if PAC was alive...PACs death opened up the market on all the bullshit rap artists today...them niggas Master P and Lil Wayne and the Hotboys and all that shit would have never made it to mainstream had PAC been alive..hence no Drake... Just keeping it real since you don't realize how the shit works...PAC was suppressing the market by his fame....had he lived there would have been a different set of rappers / character's on the scene....his death had a domino effect on the type of music produced ......

Actually, I think Notorious B.I.G opened those doors, Pac showed him how but he was really the first to make hardcore records with club/chart records (One More Chance (remix), Hypnotize, Big Poppa, etc.

[cd021]

The track hits ya eardrum like a slug to ya chest

BKtMiCD_oqk

Production still holds up 21 years later, never skip that track because of 2pacs verse either.

[cd021]

my favs...

1. Staring Through My Rearview (one of his 500 posthumous songs:lol)
2. Shorty Wanna Be a Thug
3. Holla if You Hear Me
4. Holla at Me
5. Can't C Me
6. Thug Luv (w/ Bone)...I caught a plane out to Cleveland late last evenin', to help my niggas clean up some niggas no longer breathin'...
7. Bomb First/Hail Mary...great 1-2 punch to start. West coast ridah comin right behind ya, never shoulda fucked with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
8. Toss it Up
9. I Get Around
10. Hit 'em Up

I think that was a soundtrack track that came out before he died (or was atleast completed before he died) one of my favorite 2pac tracks. I prefer the more serious tracks to the party ones though. Holla If you Here Me was the first time 2pac made a truly great song, you don't normally here that type of raw anger and passion on a track.

[Bynumite]

Who fucking cares. Niggas get shot every day all day long.

Plenty of people obviously care since they're still remembering a man and his work 2 decades after his death.

Your morbidly obese ass could have a stroke tomorrow and no one would care or remember you one week later. It's like you never existed. Such his life, old man.

[baseline bum]

Holla If you Here Me was the first time 2pac made a truly great song, you don't normally here that type of raw anger and passion on a track.

Brenda's Got a Baby? 2Pac's first album was great.

[koriwhat]

Dude, I'm the guy who can show you black music roots as far back as it goes, ok? This rap shit is fucking stupid, got it?

Selling....FUCK THE POLICE.....says it all. How fucking dumb does it get? THEN..."why do the cops pick on blacks..?"


School in session.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYHSlEssYY

the problem here is the fact that what you like isn't for everyone and yet you believe it to be. you don't like 2pac? move the fuck on old man, go to some thread and reply with more useless bs track & field crap or post more old music and act like you're the creme de la creme of knowledge. fuck out of here.

btw, some of your most beloved jazz musicians were also dope fiends. what message were they sending? if you think about it, the only role models there should be in a kids like are his/her parents and relatives. fuck looking up to celebs and whatnot. i just like good music and 2pac was one of the realest around.

[DMC]

Plenty of people obviously care since they're still remembering a man and his work 2 decades after his death.

Your morbidly obese ass could have a stroke tomorrow and no one would care or remember you one week later. It's like you never existed. Such his life, old man.
No one gives a shit. It's just fashionable to pretend you do, just like how you pretend to be someone you're not online.

[Avante]

the problem here is the fact that what you like isn't for everyone and yet you believe it to be. you don't like 2pac? move the fuck on old man, go to some thread and reply with more useless bs track & field crap or post more old music and act like you're the creme de la creme of knowledge. fuck out of here.

btw, some of your most beloved jazz musicians were also dope fiends. what message were they sending? if you think about it, the only role models there should be in a kids like are his/her parents and relatives. fuck looking up to celebs and whatnot. i just like good music and 2pac was one of the realest around.

Are ya just not paying attention? I like it all, ok?

prewar/postwar blues
jazz
reggae
country
some punk
some rap
some hip hop
soul
R&B
rock & roll
alternative

...ok? What I don't like is some dumb ass telling little kids....FUCK THE POLICE. How damn stupid can a guy be? He doesn't know his main audience is young black boys? Do they really need to be told to....FUCK THE POLICE....answer that quesion. This ain't music, this is shit.

Dude, my music library is stunning, as is my knowledge of music, I know shit when I hear it, got it?

There are none of you little rap fans who can talk black music on my level, trust me. Tupac sang a lot of trash.

Way too much of this kind of thing out there, why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbFtu8Ir9AI

I grew up poor, never needed to carry a gun or peddle drugs or hang out on the streets. And if I'd tried that my dad would have kicked my ass. A dad something most these thugs know nothing about and that is the problem,

[baseline bum]

the problem here is the fact that what you like isn't for everyone and yet you believe it to be.

It's like fucking 14 year-olds in Olangapo isn't for everyone, but old faggot has to defend it to the death.

[Avante]

You fuck kids dude...shut the fuck up..you should be in jail anyway....PAC was more of a man than you will ever be ya fucking shit river kiddie lover

This little thug Tupac wouldn't make a zit on my ass, trust me. And I'm smart enought to know ya don't be telling young black kids to....FUCK THE POLICE. What, the little shit was retarded?

Stupid, will you ever figure out nobody did anything illegal over there? Stupid, DIFFERENT LAWS...ok ya dumb fuck?

[Avante]

It's like fucking 14 year-olds in Olangapo isn't for everyone, but old faggot has to defend it to the death.

Why ignore my stance on that sick shit? What, ya can't read fucker? Are you really so fucking stupid ya think those bars hired 14 year old kids to hustle drinks, you really that dumb? Dummy, the drinking age was 18, ok moron?

And, you had all those full grown women to pick from, now think ya fucking idiot.

[baseline bum]

Why ignore my stance on that sick shit? What, ya can't read fucker? Are you really so fucking stupid ya think those bars hired 14 year old kids to hustle drinks, you really that dumb? Dummy, the drinking age was 18, ok moron?

Yeah the illegal whorehouse enforces drinking ages :lol

[Avante]

Yeah the illegal whorehouse enforces drinking ages :lol

Dummy, whorehouses were off limits to all servicemen, ok ya dumb fuck? I've never been in a whorehouse, why would I need one?

Stupid, do you really think there ya sat on a bar stool drinking with a 14 year old kid, you really that stupid?

Now think ya dumb fuck, what are your buddies going to say seeing you with some little kid, well?

Pull your head out of your ass, ya dummy, ok?

Here ya go son, the original Cocaine Blues. Back in 1927 you could buy it in drug stores.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6tfNVbgwu4

[baseline bum]

Dummy, whorehouses were off limits to all servicemen, ok ya dumb fuck? I've never been in a whorehouse, why would I need one?

Stupid, do you really think there ya sat on a bar stool drinking with a 14 year old kid, you really that stupid?

Now think ya dumb fuck, what are your buddies going to say seeing you with some little kid, well?

Pull your head out of your ass, ya dummy, ok?

You probably sat in a booth with the 14 year-old under the table.

[Avante]

You probably sat in a booth with the 14 year-old under the table.

And here I was thinking ya were just another young dumb never read a book or knew your daddy black kid, hell, you're a fucking retard.

As ya sit there thinking......how did he know I've never read a book and I did see a picture of my dad once.

[baseline bum]

And here I was thinking ya were just another young dumb never read a book or knew your daddy black kid, hell, you're a fucking retard.

That hurts coming from a child molestor

[Avante]

That hurts coming from a child molestor

Still too stupid to understand there were no young kids working the bars when I was there in 69-71?

My God you're dumb. And, ya don't know your dad do ya slick and haven't read any books. right?

[baseline bum]

Still too stupid to understand there were no young kids working the bars when I was there in 69-71?

My God you're dumb. And, ya don't know your dad do ya slick and haven't read any books. right?

Do you think any of those 14 year olds were impressed when you spouted off random track stats? Learn a bit about Pokemon or hoverboards or something so you can at least have an intelligent conversation before raping them.

[Avante]

Do you think any of those 14 year olds were impressed when you spouted off random track stats? Learn a bit about Pokemon or hoverboards or something so you can at least have an intelligent conversation before raping them.

Let's talk about you fucker. What was the last book ya read, ya come off as dumb as a rock, and when did your dad dump you and mom? He probably took one look at your goofy looking head and ran.

[clambake]

That hurts coming from a child molestor
:clap:yield:worthy:

[baseline bum]

Let's talk about you fucker. What was the last book ya read, ya come off as dumb as a rock, and when did your dad dump you and mom? He probably took one look at your goofy looking head and ran.

I can't really recommend any books to you, I don't think our interests intersect enough. I really don't know any tips for getting the girlfriend experience out of 14 year-old Phillipine bar girls. Maybe amazon has something for you.

[Avante]

:clap:yield:worthy:

Let me ask you this...

Where on earth did you this this pedo thing from anyway, do you even know? Still trying to figure out where that came from.

[Avante]

I can't really recommend any books to you, I don't think our interests intersect enough. I really don't know any tips for getting the girlfriend experience out of 14 year-old Phillipine bar girls. Maybe amazon has something for you.

Stupid, answer my question, ok? What was the last book ya read and when did your dad bail on your dumb ass?

ANSWER THE QUESTION, OK?

[baseline bum]

Stupid, answer my question, ok? What was the last book ya read and when did your dad bail on your dumb ass?

ANSWER THE QUESTION, OK?

Let's not change the subject from your child rape.

[Avante]

Let's not change the subject from your child rape.

Just as I thought, dad dumped your dumb little ass, and ya don't read, and it's real obvious.

Stupid, can you talk anything at all, ya seem dumb.

[baseline bum]

Just as I thought, dad dumped your dumb little ass, and ya don't read, and it's real obvious.

Stupid, can you talk anything at all, ya seem dumb.

What motivates someone to fuck kids? Is that a Navy thing? I thought you guys fucked each other on the ships?

[Avante]

What motivates someone to fuck kids? Is that a Navy thing? I thought you guys fucked each other on the ships?

Why would anyone want to stay stupid like you obviously have done? What about reading and learning things don't you like? Dude, if you really think grown men were fucking on board USA Naval vessels you're dumber than I thought and how many times do you need to be told nobody was into any kids, well?

Dude, you cannot be this fucking stupid, it's impossible.

Stupid, now think, there are 300 guys sleeping three to a row in hammocks, ok ya dumb fuck? Now how in the hell.............


Is this little shit about as dumb as it gets, ha~~~~~~~~~~

[baseline bum]

Stupid, now think, there are 300 guys sleeping three to a row in hammocks, ok ya dumb fuck? Now how in the hell.............


I think this video shows how it's done


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

[Avante]

I think this video shows how it's done


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

Notice how this little shit wants to get far far away from his dad dumping his dumbass and the fact he doesn't read?

Stupid little fuck, ha~~~~~~~~~~

Dude, what was the last book ya read and when did your dad bail on the family?

[pgardn]

Notice how this little shit wants to get far far away from his dad dumping his dumbass and the fact he doesn't read?

Stupid little fuck, ha~~~~~~~~~~

Dude, what was the last book ya read and when did your dad bail on the family?

WTF was the last book you read ya old fart?

[clambake]

What motivates someone to fuck kids? Is that a Navy thing? I thought you guys fucked each other on the ships?
:rollin

[Koolaid_Man]

This little thug Tupac wouldn't make a zit on my ass, trust me. And I'm smart enought to know ya don't be telling young black kids to....FUCK THE POLICE. What, the little shit was retarded?

Stupid, will you ever figure out nobody did anything illegal over there? Stupid, DIFFERENT LAWS...ok ya dumb fuck?

Are you angry because he wrote in defense of young girls Brenda's got a baby ? That's why you hate his guts aint it Pedo?

[baseline bum]

shit nevermind

[LittleCriminal]

This fool aint dead..Living it up on some remote island where all da rich folk live in seclusion.. Just sayin.

[resistanze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbs7wWLXLpw

[johnsmith]

How about some real talent?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc&list=PLNF1TtPlNbF87k2HshqLCpvE FTSlrspTB

Show some class, don't come off as some dumb street thug.


Garbage has been going on for ages in music, nothing new about it. But, it takes little talent to do this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPCmIxv-3k

Are you really doubling down on the child molestation stuff by repping R Kelly?

Jesus man, wasn't it enough to admit that you fucked a child? Now you're just grandstanding.

You're a sick old man that honestly if this site wasn't anonymous, I'd recommend the authorities be called on your behalf as you're clearly a danger to any child within 100 yards.

Disgusting man.

Oh, and save yourself the "well here's someone that hardly posts but when he does it's about avante" because you're absolutely correct. I just feel like it can't be emphasized enough that you had intercourse with a minor. Just because it was a long ass time ago doesn't make it any less disgusting.

[DJR210]

Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) taking a good reaming in honor of 2Pac

[cd021]

Brenda's Got a Baby? 2Pac's first album was great.

Brenda is a solid song that talks about an important issue, the album as whole wasn't particularly good. Strictly for my Niggaz was far better and showed he was much more talented than what his first album showed. His first record he had a song called

Last Words has three legends (Ice Cube, Ice T and 2pac) and he clearly had the best verse of the three.
Keep Your Head Up is significantly better than Brenda, and still holds up 23 years later.

[Joseph Kony]

2pac is one of my faves tbh don't care what anyone else says. this one is up there but definitely sounds better as this mashup than the original, imo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlGF1jRD2NY

[Joseph Kony]

also :lmao :lmao not surprised Avante thinks the dude who pissed on an underage girl has "real talent" lolololol

[baseline bum]

Brenda is a solid song that talks about an important issue, the album as whole wasn't particularly good. Strictly for my Niggaz was far better and showed he was much more talented than what his first album showed. His first record he had a song called

Last Words has three legends (Ice Cube, Ice T and 2pac) and he clearly had the best verse of the three.
Keep Your Head Up is significantly better than Brenda, and still holds up 23 years later.

I gotta disagree, I think Brenda is a pretty hard hitting song. Especially the last line: Prostitute found slain and Brenda's her name................ she's got a baby. I always found Keep Your Head Up kind of strange when he crucified his mother for being a crackhead on 2Pacalypse in Part Time Mother. My two favorite Pac albums were Thug Life and 2Pacalypse Now, probably his two hardest albums both beats and lyrics.

[Avante]

Are you really doubling down on the child molestation stuff by repping R Kelly?

Jesus man, wasn't it enough to admit that you fucked a child? Now you're just grandstanding.

You're a sick old man that honestly if this site wasn't anonymous, I'd recommend the authorities be called on your behalf as you're clearly a danger to any child within 100 yards.

Disgusting man.

Oh, and save yourself the "well here's someone that hardly posts but when he does it's about avante" because you're absolutely correct. I just feel like it can't be emphasized enough that you had intercourse with a minor. Just because it was a long ass time ago doesn't make it any less disgusting.

Why you continue to ignore the fact there were no underage kids in those bars? And, I've made my stance on that sick shit well known, you can't read?

Dude, stop living in a fantasy, ok faggot?

All I can guess is you're retarded.

[Avante]

also :lmao :lmao not surprised Avante thinks the dude who pissed on an underage girl has "real talent" lolololol

The dude could strip down naked, and walk on his hands down main street, that has nothing to do with his talent, ok stupid?

[Avante]

Are you angry because he wrote in defense of young girls Brenda's got a baby ? That's why you hate his guts aint it Pedo?

First off weirdo I don't hate the guy, ok? I just can't give props to a guy who can't figure out the impact his music has on young stupid black boys. He really thought....FUCK THE POLICE...was a good idea? How fucking stupid does it get?

[clambake]

The dude could strip down naked, and walk on his hands down main street, that has nothing to do with his talent, ok stupid?

i don't think thats what he did. you know what he did.

[Fabbs]

Brenda is a solid song that talks about an important issue, the album as whole wasn't particularly good. Strictly for my Niggaz was far better and showed he was much more talented than what his first album showed. His first record he had a song called

Last Words has three legends (Ice Cube, Ice T and 2pac) and he clearly had the best verse of the three.
Keep Your Head Up is significantly better than Brenda, and still holds up 23 years later.
How is it to be understood the father died at the start of Holla If You Hear Me video?

[Avante]

i don't think thats what he did. you know what he did.

O.J.Simpson is in the Hall of Fame, he was a world record holder in track, he won a Heisman, his TALENT is well known. The fact he is a killer means nothing.

Bullet Bob Hayes held 13 sprint WR's, he is in the Hall of Fame also, he did prison time. Do you not get anything?

[Avante]

Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) taking a good reaming in honor of 2Pac

Avante stomping around on mental midgets is what is actually going on here.

[clambake]

O.J.Simpson is in the Hall of Fame, he was a world record holder in track, he won a Heisman, his TALENT is well known. The fact he is a killer means nothing.

Bullet Bob Hayes held 13 sprint WR's, he is in the Hall of Fame also, he did prison time. Do you not get anything?

so the difference is you didn't do any time.

[Avante]

so the difference is you didn't do any time.

What law did I break, well?

[clambake]

law of decency for one.

[Avante]

law of decency for one.

Girls in bars long before you showed up and they were there long after ya left, ok stupid? And, they come up to you, got it? So ya help them make a living, that is the right thing to do ya dumb fuck.

How stupid are you?

[clambake]

wow

[Avante]

wow

Here's what's happening Norm. I'm trolling your dumb ass and you think you are trolling mine, ha~~~~

If you ever post...wow...again, I will stop messing with ya and we both know you need Avante, right?

[clambake]

wow larry

[Avante]

wow larry

Today is the 14th of Sept, I'll see ya a month from now.

No Avante for you for a month, yep, ya fucked up and will have to suffer now.

An obvious Avante junkie without his fix for a month, ouch~~~~~~~

[clambake]

wow larry

[DJR210]

Avante stomping around on mental midgets is what is actually going on here.

Yeah ok :lol.. If you think being called a rapist old faggot fuck by most of the users on a Spurs forum is "stomping around on mental midgets" then more power to you, jackass

[Avante]

Poor little Norm, now what will the freak do here?

[Avante]

Yeah ok :lol.. If you think being called a rapist old faggot fuck by most of the users on a Spurs forum "stomping around on mental midgets" more power to you, jackass

Ya mean that gang of dummies who ignore my stance on that sick shit because they know they stand no chance vs Avante and it bugs them, that gang?

Stupid, everyone here knows I'm their superior so what else can they do but play that silly shit? I'm no sick ass pedo and everyone knows that, so watching idiots like you having to play that stupidity because ya feel inferior, ha~~~~~~~~~~~

[clambake]

It's like fucking 14 year-olds in Olangapo isn't for everyone, but old faggot has to defend it to the death.

[Leetonidas]

can someone ban/arrest this disgusting pedophile already. I'm getting tired of reading the mental gymnastics and justifications of child rape

[pgardn]

Today is the 14th of Sept, I'll see ya a month from now.

No Avante for you for a month, yep, ya fucked up and will have to suffer now.

An obvious Avante junkie without his fix for a month, ouch~~~~~~~

Clammer he's got you penciled in for a month.
The horror...

[Avante]

can someone ban/arrest this disgusting pedophile already. I'm getting tired of reading the mental gymnastics and justifications of child rape

Actually we need to ban those falsely accusing anyone of being a sick ass pedo especially when it's real obvious they aren't.

I'm no pedo, and anyone thinking I am is totally ignoring reality. Why I don't know.

[Avante]

Clammer he's got you penciled in for a month.
The horror...

As this freak follows me everywhere, sheesh~~~~

[clambake]

As this freak follows me everywhere, sheesh~~~~

i'm giving back. its a public service.

[Avante]

So just who is the guys target audience here?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1ZvUDvLDY

It certainly isn't that midwest farmer, that well off white collar worker, anyone who grew up in a loving home with mom and dad. Who is he trying to reach there?

[DJR210]

:lol and who are blues written for? Slaves? What's your point?

[koriwhat]

ugh snoozefest avante... fuckin' a!

[Leetonidas]

So just who is the guys target audience here?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1ZvUDvLDY

It certainly isn't that midwest farmer, that well off white collar worker, anyone who grew up in a loving home with mom and dad. Who is he trying to reach there?

His mom? its in the title you stupid fuck

[Avante]

:lol and who are blues written for? Slaves? What's your point?

My point is this....

Tupac didn't know the impact his music would make on young black kids? So he puts out garbage, singing about violence, this is smart?

What song did any of the great recording artists have about violence, well?

Yes we do see some of that in some old blues, hillbillie music.

[Avante]

His mom? its in the title you stupid fuck

And he could have just sang the song to her then ya stupid fuck. He recorded that song to make $$$$$$, got it dummy?

[clambake]

My point is this....

Tupac didn't know the impact his music would make on young black kids? So he puts out garbage, singing about violence, this is smart?

What song did any of the great recording artists have about violence, well?

Yes we do see some of that in some old blues, hillbillie music.

he didn't know the impact of his music?

[Avante]

Do we really need this shit?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oO9SQ_uap8


Then it's..."those cops are picking on blacks"...hahahaha~~~~~~~

Look at the mess that is Africa. Oh hell yes lets record songs about shooting, killing........great idea.

Just how fucking dumb are these fuckers?


According to FBI numbers from 2014, about 90 percent of black homicide victims were killed by other black people. The “white-on-white” murder rate that same year — homicides in which a white person was killed by another white person — was 82 percent of all murders of white people.

Black men don't raise their kids, so there is mom unable to control her 15 year old son, thay are poor. Oh hell yes, lets toss some....KILL SHOOT DRUGS PUSSY...at the kid in lyrics from his heros. Brilliant idea.


Come on people cool the silly bullshit, grow the fuck up and look at this silly shit. Songs about...FUCIK THE POLICE....are you kidding me? FUCK THE POLICE.....is this for real? Tupac was a fucking idiot.

[140]

Do we really need this shit?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oO9SQ_uap8


Then it's..."those cops are picking on blacks"...hahahaha~~~~~~~

Look at the mess that is Africa. Oh hell yes lets record songs about shooting, killing........great idea.

Just how fucking dumb are these fuckers?


According to FBI numbers from 2014, about 90 percent of black homicide victims were killed by other black people. The “white-on-white” murder rate that same year — homicides in which a white person was killed by another white person — was 82 percent of all murders of white people.

Black men don't raise their kids, so there is mom unable to control her 15 year old son, thay are poor. Oh hell yes, lets toss some....KILL SHOOT DRUGS PUSSY...at the kid in lyrics from his heros. Brilliant idea.
Wow. You're one dumb fuck.

[Avante]

Wow. You're one dumb fuck.

That coming from a guy so fucking stupid he believes a little kid can run a 20.00? Dude, you might wanna shut the fuck up, got it?

[140]

That coming from a guy so fucking stupid he believes a little kid can run a 20.00? Dude, you might wanna shut the fuck up, got it?
No

[Avante]

No

Smart move ya stupid fuck.

[140]

Smart move ya stupid fuck.
No

[Avante]

Last thing we need in this country is songs about....FUCK THE POLICE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmH_9gR-32E


Cop pulls over a car load of young black punks/thugs.

Cop...let me see you drivers license, registration and proof of insurance.
Punk...fuck you!

Cop, punchs the punk in the face then pulls his weapon.

Passer by gets all this on his phone.

And it's....what is with these cops picking on blacks?

[clambake]

should they be banned?

[Avante]

should they be banned?

It's 1927, Georgia bluesman Pegleg Howell sings...

"I want to cut your throat mama, drink your blood like wine"

The classc Pretty Polly and old hick song is about a guy killing and burying his wife to be Pretty Polly.

We have this....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLHWOPqg-iU


Violence in music is old, but we didn't have the same problems back then that we do today. Now is not the time for KILL, SHOOT songs. Yes something needs to be done about it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J73fhAP-dc





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrA53gavUoM

[clambake]

why didn't we have the problems back then?

[Avante]

why didn't we have the problems back then?

Blacks running wild on the streets of Memphis, Atlanta, Clarksdale, St. Louis, Houston etc etc with weapons after dark back then......ya reckon? Black gangs back then? Drugs?

Black kids roaming the streets of Birmingham Alabama in 1935, good luck!

[clambake]

what?

[clambake]

oh, you mean the good olde days when they knew their place?

[Avante]

what?

Ok if anyone ever sees me responding to this waste of all our times I will never ever post here again, scouts honor. I gave this freak plenty of chances he blew them all.

clambake/Norm....RIP

[clambake]

you don't need to respond to me. i just keep everyone appraised of your character.

[clambake]

ah the good olde days. i got 24 books about the good ole days. some about "olde" and some about "ole". picked em up at various yard sales church auctions.

[Leetonidas]

And he could have just sang the song to her then ya stupid fuck. He recorded that song to make $$$$$$, got it dummy?

and you could have just jacked off but you chose to rape children you piece of shit

[Fabbs]

According to FBI numbers from 2014, about 90 percent of black homicide victims were killed by other black people. The “white-on-white” murder rate that same year — homicides in which a white person was killed by another white person — was 82 percent of all murders of white people.

Come on people cool the silly bullshit, grow the fuck up and look at this silly shit. Songs about...FUCIK THE POLICE....are you kidding me? FUCK THE POLICE.....is this for real? Tupac was a fucking idiot.
Avante

[Avante]

and you could have just jacked off but you chose to rape children you piece of shit

How many times does your dumb ass have to be told something mutherfucker? There were no kids around and I can't stand kids, ok fucker? So stop lying asshole, ok?

Stupid, stop ignoring my stance on that sick shit, ok? You blow those sick fucks away, now what about that don't you get stupid?

How many total idiots post here anyway?

[Leetonidas]

Sicko

[Avante]

Sicko

Dude, what about you shoot sick ass pedos, don't you get? Why keep lying prick? I'm not into kids ya dumb fuck, got it? Where did you ever get this stupid idea I was?

[DJR210]

My point is this....

Tupac didn't know the impact his music would make on young black kids? So he puts out garbage, singing about violence, this is smart?

What song did any of the great recording artists have about violence, well?

Yes we do see some of that in some old blues, hillbillie music.

Talking like you've listened to 2Pac's music :lol

[Avante]

Talking like you've listened to 2Pac's music :lol

Totally different deal with guys like myself who grew up listening to Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, rock and roll and knows music than some young black kid who knows nothing but that silly shit.

I own rap, just not that ....FUCK THE POLICE...bullshit.

What the hell was that freak thinking, FUCK THE POLICE.......what?

[DJR210]

Totally different deal with guys like myself who grew up listening to Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, rock and roll and knows music than some young black kid who knows nothing but that silly shit.

I own rap, just not that ....FUCK THE POLICE...bullshit.

What the hell was that freak thinking, FUCK THE POLICE.......what?

:lmao 2Pac is now a member of N.W.A to the self proclaimed Scholar of all Music

[Avante]

:lmao 2Pac is now a member of N.W.A to the self proclaimed Scholar of all Music

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? In a 24 hour period I might listen to Duke Ellington and that big band sound, some Peter Tosh and some reggae, a little Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys and some western swing, toss in some Jack Teagarden and that jazz, some old hick music with Frank Hutchison, some Chicago blues and Jimmy Reed.

Now what do little poor black boys listen to constantly? They just don't know any better. Do they really need to be hearing...FUCK THE POLICE....especially since their musical world is so tiny and limited?

[Clipper Nation]

Old Faggot getting his shit pushed in ITT like it's NFL betting.

[Avante]

Old Faggot getting his shit pushed in ITT like it's NFL betting.

Where have you been the last two seasons where I've won over 3000 ATS documented?

And if ya noticed stupid, nobody here has yet to stand up for Tupac's...FUCK THE POLICE.

Dummy, how come you never ever get anything right, it's actually weird how wrong you ALWAYS are.

Would you like to take me on ATS dummy?

[Joseph Kony]

Dude, what about you shoot sick ass pedos, don't you get? Why keep lying prick? I'm not into kids ya dumb fuck, got it? Where did you ever get this stupid idea I was?

considering your brains arent splattered on the wall, no one believers that first sentence faggot

[baseline bum]

:lmao 2Pac is now a member of N.W.A to the self proclaimed Scholar of all Music

Old faggot only listens to songs like Hank Williams' Folsom Prison Blues or Don't be Cruel by Willie Nelson.

[Avante]

considering your brains arent splattered on the wall, no one believers that first sentence faggot

Why ignore my stance on that sick shit?

[Avante]

Old faggot only listens to songs like Hank Williams' Folsom Prison Blues or Don't be Cruel by Willie Nelson.

Stupid, would like me to totally take your faggot ass to school talking black music? Guess where it all started ya dumb fuck, I know...DUH~~~~

Want me to start in the early 1900's and bring your dumb ass up to speed on black music?

Here ya go ya little dumb ass bitch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OET8SVAGELA&amp;list=PLRzdMCYnDofrWAMGWuJb2EfQ omHeDkDK3

Now tell me ya little shit, where did that come from? How about right here?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYsnRc09csQ


Stupid, want me to bring you all the way up to the origins of hip hop and rap? I bet you'd get all confused if I tried to talk about influenses.

Now sit your ass down son, got it?

Fucky funny, little know nothing rap idiots trying to talk music with Avante, hahaha~~~~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Where have you been the last two seasons where I've won over 3000 ATS documented?

And if ya noticed stupid, nobody here has yet to stand up for Tupac's...FUCK THE POLICE.

Dummy, how come you never ever get anything right, it's actually weird how wrong you ALWAYS are.

Would you like to take me on ATS dummy?
Didn't read.

[Avante]

Didn't read.

Sure ya did little man, just too stupid to get it.

[baseline bum]

Stupid, would like me to totally take your faggot ass to school talking black music? Guess where it all started ya dumb fuck, I know...DUH~~~~

Want me to start in the early 1900's and bring your dumb ass up to speed on black music?

Here ya go ya little dumb ass bitch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OET8SVAGELA&amp;list=PLRzdMCYnDofrWAMGWuJb2EfQ omHeDkDK3

Now tell me ya little shit, where did that come from? How about right here?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYsnRc09csQ


Stupid, want me to bring you all the way up to the origins of hip hop and rap? I bet you'd get all confused if I tried to talk about influenses.

Now sit your ass down son, got it?

Fucky funny, little know nothing rap idiots trying to talk music with Avante, hahaha~~~~~~~~~

Do you seriously smoke meth in addition to raping children?

[Avante]

Do you seriously smoke meth in addition to raping children?

Feel pretty stupid now don't ya slick? Stupid, ya wanna talk the origins of black music on record, oh yeah....ya can't.

Dude, grow the fuck up, ok punk?

Then there was Emmett Miller who performed in black face, his "Love Sick Blues" a big hit for Hank Williams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNICva63mQ


Little man, fuck you~~~~~

[baseline bum]

Feel pretty stupid now don't ya slick? Stupid, ya wanna talk the origins of black music on record, oh yeah....ya can't.

Dude, grow the fuck up, ok punk?

Then there was Emmett Miller who performed in black face, his "Love Sick Blues" a big hit for Hank Williams.

No seriously, do you smoke meth before you watch children masturbate?

[Avante]

No seriously, do you smoke meth before you watch children masturbate?

So how long you been sucking cock ya little queer?

[baseline bum]

So how long you been sucking cock ya little queer?

There's that meth talk again son.

[Avante]

There's that meth talk again son.

A little shit like you calling anyone..son...hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Grow the fuck up ya little prick, ok?

Smart move trying to not talk music with me dummy.

[baseline bum]

A little shit like yiu calling anyone..son...hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Grow the fuck up a little prick, ok?

There's that meth talk again son.

[Avante]

There's that meth talk again son.

There ya go son keep it stupid. Ya saw what would happen to your dumb ass if ya tried to talk music with Avante.

So when did your dad bail on his family and ya ever read a book?

[baseline bum]

There ya go son keep it stupid. Ya saw what would happen to your dumb ass if ya tried to talk music with Avante.

So when did your dad bail on his family and ya ever read a book?

There's that meth talk again son.

[Avante]

There's that meth talk again son.

That's that..damn Avante is kicking my little ass here....talk son.

ONE MORE TIME

Ya ever read a book little guy? Ya come off stupid.

[baseline bum]

That's that..damn Avante is kicking my little ass here....talk son.

ONE MORE TIME

Ya ever read a book little guy? Ya come off stupid.

There's that meth talk again son.

[Avante]

There's that meth talk again son.

Really don't know how to deal with this do ya little man? Obviously you can't hang talking music, so here ya are acting stupid, again, ha~~~~~

Dude, stay on your level, ok champ?

[baseline bum]

Really don't know how to deal with this do ya little man? Obviously you can't hang talking music, so here ya are acting stupid, again, ha~~~~~

Dude, stay on your level, ok champ?

There's that meth talk again son.

[Avante]

There's that meth talk again son.

Ever read a book little guy?

You come off real limited and simple.

[koriwhat]

i thought i ruined threads... damn. good job avante.

[koriwhat]

So how long you been sucking cock ya little queer?


Grow the fuck up ya little prick, ok?.......dummy.

[Joseph Kony]

lol no one has watched a single video you post. you post of wall of dumbass text and rhetorical questions but all anyone ever sees is "im a fucking pedophile and I raped children during the war"

and consistently you get triggered literally every fucking time :lol you are the most pathetic sack of shit on ST tbh

[DJR210]

Some of my favorite songs from 2Pac:

Fuck the Police
Make em Say Ugh
Express Yourself
Real Muthaphuckin G's
Gin and Juice
It's Going Down
Bling Bling

Yep, now that's a list~~~ Just how many know nothing rap idiots really post here? SHEESH~~~

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIOXYSOo9wA

I listen to rap mostly for meter and cadence before I worry about lyrics. To that end, his verse in Black Cotton was probably my favorite. Lyrically, these two songs go together better than you might think if you were one of the 99 percent of folks who didn't like Chocolate Rain. Which this had cut in more verse, though.

[Leetonidas]

Some of my favorite songs from 2Pac:

Fuck the Police
Make em Say Ugh
Express Yourself
Real Muthaphuckin G's
Gin and Juice
It's Going Down
Bling Bling

Yep, now that's a list~~~ Just how many know nothing rap idiots really post here? SHEESH~~~

:lmao

lol at the xecutioners in there

[baseline bum]

Some of my favorite songs from 2Pac:

Fuck the Police
Make em Say Ugh
Express Yourself
Real Muthaphuckin G's
Gin and Juice
It's Going Down
Bling Bling

Yep, now that's a list~~~ Just how many know nothing rap idiots really post here? SHEESH~~~

Good list, but my favorite 2Pac songs are

Your Cheating Heart
On the Road Again
Ring of Fire
Fortunate Son

[Spurminator]

His verse on "Daydream Believer" was dope.

[DJR210]

Good list, but my favorite 2Pac songs are

Your Cheating Heart
On the Road Again
Ring of Fire
Fortunate Son

Fuck, who was 2Pac trying to reach when he recorded Fortunate Son? SHEESH~~~~

[DJR210]

His verse on "Daydream Believer" was dope.

:lol truth bomb.. Still gives me the chills to this day

[Avante]

lol no one has watched a single video you post. you post of wall of dumbass text and rhetorical questions but all anyone ever sees is "im a fucking pedophile and I raped children during the war"

and consistently you get triggered literally every fucking time :lol you are the most pathetic sack of shit on ST tbh

Little man, I talked about how pissed off I was about not knowing the situation over there. How anyone can see that as a pedo......huh?????? A pedo goes looking for kids, that is totally different than just maybe one of those girls I thought was 18 was actually 16, even a dummy like you knows that. Stupid, the drinking age was 18, ok? So there ya sit on bar stool with a little kid, come on guy, hahaha!!!!!!!

So what we are really seeing is a bunch of dummies like you just talking shit because of their inability to hang with me talking anything.

AND...everybody knows this and everybody knows I'm the last person who would be a sick ass pedo.

Too many dumb kids here like you, so I mess with you/them.

[clambake]

:wow:wow:wow:wow
Little man, I talked about how pissed off I was about not knowing the situation over there. How anyone can see that as a pedo......huh?????? A pedo goes looking for kids, that is totally different than just maybe one of those girls I thought was 18 was actually 16, even a dummy like you knows that. Stupid the drinking age was 18, ok?

So what we are really seeing is a bunch of dummies like you just talking shit because of their inability to hang with me talking anything.

AND...everybody knows this and everybody knows I'm the last person who would be a sick ass pedo.

Too many dumb kids here like you, so I mess with you/them.

just fucking wow

[TimDunkem]

Little man, I talked about how pissed off I was about not knowing the situation over there. How anyone can see that as a pedo......huh?????? A pedo goes looking for kids, that is totally different than just maybe one of those girls I thought was 18 was actually 16, even a dummy like you knows that. Stupid, the drinking age was 18, ok? So there ya sit on bar stool with a little kid, come on guy, hahaha!!!!!!!

So what we are really seeing is a bunch of dummies like you just talking shit because of their inability to hang with me talking anything.

AND...everybody knows this and everybody knows I'm the last person who would be a sick ass pedo.

Too many dumb kids here like you, so I mess with you/them.
:depressed

[DeadlyDynasty]

Little man, I talked about how pissed off I was about not knowing the situation over there. How anyone can see that as a pedo......huh?????? A pedo goes looking for kids, that is totally different than just maybe one of those girls I thought was 18 was actually 16, even a dummy like you knows that. Stupid, the drinking age was 18, ok? So there ya sit on bar stool with a little kid, come on guy, hahaha!!!!!!!

So what we are really seeing is a bunch of dummies like you just talking shit because of their inability to hang with me talking anything.

AND...everybody knows this and everybody knows I'm the last person who would be a sick ass pedo.

Too many dumb kids here like you, so I mess with you/them.
Anybody know whose jurisdiction is it to prosecute this confession? FBI? Interpol?

[clambake]

Anybody know whose jurisdiction is it to prosecute this confession? FBI? Interpol?

no no no no not yet.

in death......tupac is kicking the shit out of this turd.

[Avante]

Anybody know whose jurisdiction is it to prosecute this confession? FBI? Interpol?

And the age of consent in the Philipines in the early 70's was what?

MANILA, Philippines – The age of consent in the Philippines is 12-years-old. In the eyes of the law, a Filipino can legally engage in consensual sex at the age of 12. Sex with a person below the age of twelve is considered statutory rape

But.....the drinking age was 18, so bars hired underage kids to hustle drinks? Think just a little bit guy, ok?

[Joseph Kony]

paragraph of mental gymnastics and justifications for molesting asian kids

yep, we all know

[Avante]

yep, we all know

Stupid, this all started when I said this...

Many years after my navy days I saw a show on tv talking about the sex slavery thing in the Philipines, something I knew nothing about when I was there in the early 70's. Finding this out really pissed me off, why weren't we told about that sick shit?

Now tell me little guy how does anyone with even half a brain get a pedo out of that? Well?

I;m a big guy, I need a full grown woman, ok? So why acr fucking stupid over this? If I had seen a guy tryin go mess with some kid Im kicking his ass, what don't you get about that?

I would chop a fucking pedo's head clean off, and smile while doing it, ok little guy?

[clambake]

And the age of consent in the Philipines in the early 70's was what?

excellent response.


tell us again how you and your wife laugh about it together.

[DarrinS]

He "passed away"? Like from a disease or something? I thought he was murdered.

[Avante]

What's funny is watching the little people here, and this...."ths Avante knows everything, I'll play up this stupid pedo thing, what else can I do".....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Mom....whatcha listening to son?
little black boy....FUCK THE POLICE.
Mom....ok son.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Stupid, this all started when I said this...

Many years after my navy days I saw a show on tv talking about the sex slavery thing in the Philipines, something I knew nothing about when I was there in the early 70's. Finding this out really pissed me off, why weren't we told about that sick shit?
No one ever told you rape was bad, prior to your crimes?

[Joseph Kony]

paragraph of mental gymnastics and justifications for molesting asian kids



you already told us this

[clambake]

No one ever told you rape was bad, prior to your crimes?

are you kidding, he and his wife still laugh about it.

[Avante]

No one ever told you rape was bad, prior to your crimes?

Do you have any clue at all about what I'm even talking about?

[Avante]

I just saw...Straight Out of Compton.

What the hell is going on? Punk ass black guys recording shit music about violence, drugs, sex and....FUCK THE POLICE...and then complain when cops come down heavy on them, are you kidding me? Is that stupdity at the highest level or what?

The...NWA...what a joke. No class at all, none.

Oh hell yes record garbage bullshit so all those simple ass little black kids who think Tolstoy is some street name, and are about as deep as a fucking thimble can grow up thinking getting loaded, having kids they can;'t afford and disrespecting ...THE FUCKING POLICE...is the way to go.

I don't blame the cops at all for doing what they do, if these black thugs can't figure out how to act maybe they need to cool the shit music rapping about shit they can't handle like drugs, pussy and authority. Drugs put the dumdasses in jail, pussy gives them kids they can't raise and the authorities puts them in the grave. Then it's..."what's with the cops'....huh????

I'm no prude. I cuss, love that pussy, have done every drug but heroin, been in more fights than I can remember, been in jail. But I never yelled out....FUCK THE POLICE....and then whine around like a little bitch when they kicked my ass.

I love music and can talk the history of it all, yes even rap and hip hop. This gangsta rap shit simply sucks, it's stupid, and only idiots could dig that garbage.

Ya little shits wanna see/hear some real talent, check out bluegrass and those fiddle players and singers. That takes talent, jumping around like some deranged monkey in heat yelling out about how your sorry ass life sucks, that takes no talent.

Their life sucks because mom alone can't afford to raise them because their dad ran off like a coward. Too weak to man up and do the right thing. That is the fucking problem, not....THE FUCKING POLICE. If a guy has no job they might wanna cool having kids, ya reckon? If they have no intentions of raising a family then why have one?

There is a scene late in the movie that says it all. Dr. Dre just unloaded on his gang, so he jumps in his ride and spins out, he's speeding down the road when the lights come on, he says..."why they always fucking with me"......huh? Breaking the speed limit will do it everything but he ...."why they always fucking with me"....hahaha~~~~~~

One thing I did get from the movie is just how stupid ya look talking like a filthy baboon. Starting right now I'm cleaning that up, it makes ya look retarded.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umUHR1JlT_c

Oh hell yes, every little black kid wearing hand me downs who can't afford to see a dentist needs to hear that shit.

[DJR210]

I just saw...Straight Out of Compton.

What did you think of the actor they chose to play Tupac?

[I. Hustle]

And the age of consent in the Philipines in the early 70's was what?

MANILA, Philippines – The age of consent in the Philippines is 12-years-old. In the eyes of the law, a Filipino can legally engage in consensual sex at the age of 12. Sex with a person below the age of twelve is considered statutory rape

But.....the drinking age was 18, so bars hired underage kids to hustle drinks? Think just a little bit guy, ok?

Olongapo

Trafficking of Women and Children in Olongapo was rampant during the time of the Subic Naval Base located close by. In 1988, the US Naval Investigative Service confirmed the existence of child prostitution in Olongapo City. After the base closure a new child molesters clientele from countries such as Australia and Europe moved in. In Olongapo City, there are believed to be 15,000 prostitutes, almost 8% of the total population. Olongapo special prosecutor Dorentino Z. Floresta states, "Politicians do not want people to know that these things are happening in Olongapo,".

[clambake]

he didn't know he shouldn't rape children.

[Fabbs]

I just saw...Straight Out of Compton.

jumping around like some deranged monkey in heat yelling out about how your sorry ass life sucks, that takes no talent.

Avante
the whole post :toast

[Fabbs]

You Tupacers I kind of like the rhythm to Holla When You Hear Me.

But none of you can tell me who killed the father at the beginning of the vid.

[Avante]

What did you think of the actor they chose to play Tupac?

I had to take a double take, cat looked like him.

I do wonder just how much Hollywood was in the flick as compared to real life. They did RACE which was about the Jesse Owens Story. So there is Owens in that BIG10 100yard dash, in the race we see a guy from USC....huh? And they totally played down the fact Eulace Peacock owned Owens in the 100, (Peacock was injured in 36, so no Olympics)

As ya know I cuss, but...damn~~~ How many times can ya say fucker/mutherfucker in a 2 hour (whatever) period.

My thing is do little kids really need to be listening to that music they recorded?

[DJR210]

I had to take a double take, cat looked like him.

I agree. Spot on likeness of Tupac in Straight Outta Compton.

[koriwhat]

My thing is do little kids really need to be listening to that music they recorded?

kids only listen, watch, etc what their parents allow... on the flip side of that, some parents work long days or 2 jobs and aren't around to monitor their kids like they'd want.

if you think the music is the problem, maybe you should try and listen to the message instead. without corruption of police, our government, etc there wouldn't be such lyrical masterpieces as FUCK THE POLICE so maybe you shouldn't hate what you don't understand.

[Avante]

kids only listen, watch, etc what their parents allow... on the flip side of that, some parents work long days or 2 jobs and aren't around to monitor their kids like they'd want.

if you think the music is the problem, maybe you should try and listen to the message instead. without corruption of police, our government, etc there wouldn't be such lyrical masterpieces as FUCK THE POLICE so maybe you shouldn't hate what you don't understand.

Speaking of not understanding, where in the hell did you get this idea kids only listen to what their parents allow, that simply isn;t true. And with 70% of black kids there is only one parent around, and mom is too tired to worry about music. Kids listen to what their friends listen to.

I know the music is part of the problem and it doesn't matter what anyone does ya don't send out the message to little black boys to...FUCK THE POLICE...talk about stupid, there it is.

Ranchers out in Wyoming aren't listening to gangsta rap, why?

[Avante]

Lincoln Dukes was one of my best friends and the blackest negro I'd ever seen, he was as black as this lettering. So his eyes and teeth just shined. You couldn't go over to his house and not find drugs and weapons and all kids of liqour, and there was always dead eyed looking black losers there, guys I didn't know. More than once..."what you looking at nig......." Then Lincoln.."chill brah, he don't mean no harm, just weird".

All that garbage rap crap going on, with mirrors and rolled up bils laying around, with kids in the house. Lincoln's wife would just smile with that gold tooth glistening. The smell of a dirty diaper a constant. I could never hang out there long, it was disgusting. Now how do you think his kids are going to turnout and he was one of the few black men who didn't run off like a coward from his responsibilies.

Lincoln moved back to Georgia, where his family lived. Last time I heard of him he was in prison for sales. I can only guess what happened to his kids.

[koriwhat]

...some parents work long days or 2 jobs and aren't around to monitor their kids like they'd want.


Speaking of not understanding, where in the hell did you get this idea kids only listen to what their parents allow, that simply isn;t true.

What don't you understand?


I know the music is part of the problem and it doesn't matter what anyone does ya don't send out the message to little black boys to...FUCK THE POLICE...talk about stupid, there it is.
The problem isn't the message it's the corruption that leads to said message. Stats are out there and video nowadays and yet here you are blaming some rap artist who most likely has dealt with the corruption of our police/government and you can't comprehend his/her message because you have no clue what it's like to be in his/her shoes but trust me when I say there are plenty who can relate. That's your problem!


Ranchers out in Wyoming aren't listening to gangsta rap, why?
When I used to visit Chattanooga every summer as a teenager all I heard was rap music being played. Bunch of white hillbilly kids blasting rap out their confederate covered trucks. Go figure. So again, your argument doesn't hold up. Guess all them white kids had no father either huh? Their mothers were too tired to worry about music I suppose.

When you experience the corruption of our police then maybe you can relate. I can't relate 100% because I am white, because I wasn't brought up in the hood... However, I had no father, a mother who worked all day and night to support her 2 children and as I grew up I had a few situations where unfortunately I had to deal with the police. Those situations proved to me that "Fuck The Police" was exactly the message that needed to be heard.

You want to talk about what's right and what's wrong? That music is the problem etc...? You have no clue. For example, when I was 23 I was arrested in El Paso, coming back from Vegas, and the dude I went with had drugs(.5g of weed & .5g of mushrooms) on him of which I had no clue of. We were booked on a misdemeanor & 4th degree felony charges. The police took my "friend" to jail but before taking me they threw a piece of paper in front of me and wanted me to sign it. 3 cops surrounded me telling me it was necessary to sign on the dotted line.... Well, looking at that dotted line, it had the name of my "friend" and I asked, "You want me to sign his name?". Their response was, "Yes, because we already took him to jail." I told them no and fought the case for 3 yrs and eventually getting off clean because they had lack of evidence. 3 yrs wasted driving almost every month 14 hours just to be rescheduled every time. 3 yrs until I told them about that piece of paper and then bam, the DEA throws the case out.

On top of that, there was a guy there who killed a kid drunk driving and got 10 yrs probation with no time served but they wanted to throw me in prison for 3 yrs minimum on a first offense. Talk about corruption first hand!

So yes, FUCK THE POLICE!

As well, you sit here and tell us stories about your hayday back in the navy and how you're pissed now that the government didn't inform you young lads about those bars and yet you want us all to believe in our police and turn a blind eye to their corruption?

[Avante]

What don't you understand?


The problem isn't the message it's the corruption that leads to said message. Stats are out there and video nowadays and yet here you are blaming some rap artist who most likely has dealt with the corruption of our police/government and you can't comprehend his/her message because you have no clue what it's like to be in his/her shoes but trust me when I say there are plenty who can relate. That's your problem!


When I used to visit Chattanooga every summer as a teenager all I heard was rap music being played. Bunch of white hillbilly kids blasting rap out their confederate covered trucks. Go figure. So again, your argument doesn't hold up. Guess all them white kids had no father either huh? Their mothers were too tired to worry about music I suppose.

When you experience the corruption of our police then maybe you can relate. I can't relate 100% because I am white, because I wasn't brought up in the hood... However, I had no father, a mother who worked all day and night to support her 2 children and as I grew up I had a few situations where unfortunately I had to deal with the police. Those situations proved to me that "Fuck The Police" was exactly the message that needed to be heard.

You want to talk about what's right and what's wrong? That music is the problem etc...? You have no clue. For example, when I was 23 I was arrested in El Paso, coming back from Vegas, and the dude I went with had drugs(.5g of weed & .5g of mushrooms) on him of which I had no clue of. We were booked on a misdemeanor & 4th degree felony charges. The police took my "friend" to jail but before taking me they threw a piece of paper in front of me and wanted me to sign it. 3 cops surrounded me telling me it was necessary to sign on the dotted line.... Well, looking at that dotted line, it had the name of my "friend" and I asked, "You want me to sign his name?". Their response was, "Yes, because we already took him to jail." I told them no and fought the case for 3 yrs and eventually getting off clean because they had lack of evidence. 3 yrs wasted driving almost every month 14 hours just to be rescheduled every time. 3 yrs until I told them about that piece of paper and then bam, the DEA throws the case out.

On top of that, there was a guy there who killed a kid drunk driving and got 10 yrs probation with no time served but they wanted to throw me in prison for 3 yrs minimum on a first offense. Talk about corruption first hand!

So yes, FUCK THE POLICE!

As well, you sit here and tell us stories about your hayday back in the navy and how you're pissed now that the government didn't inform you young lads about those bars and yet you want us all to believe in our police and turn a blind eye to their corruption?


When did Wyoming become part of the south like Tennessee?

Do me a favor, read this.

https://web.stanford.edu/class/e297c/poverty_prejudice/mediarace/negative.htm

[koriwhat]

When did Wyoming become part of the south like Tennessee?

Didn't say it was but there sure are ranchers out in Chattanowhere. You try to dodge the real issue here; you can't relate and therefore you hate. So be it.

[Avante]

Didn't say it was but there sure are ranchers out in Chattanowhere. You try to dodge the real issue here; you can't relate and therefore you hate. So be it.

There is the problem, you're too damn lazy to take the time and read about what I;m talking about.

And, I have been around a lot of black guys, my best friend Stan is black. I've been to The Jungle on invite, read all that Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison stuff. Read SATCHMO by Louis Armstrong, a must read for anyone into the black existance in America. Read about all there is out there to read about this.

Trust me, I get it. I don't have to jump into the fire to know it's hot, ok?

[koriwhat]

There is the problem, you're too damn lazy to take the time and read about what I;m talking about.

I'm not lazy... I just don't care. Another white dude writes about how rap is destroying the youth. lol

How about when it was Marilyn Manson destroying white youth? No father having whiteys and their mother's who don't care about music.

[Avante]

I'm not lazy... I just don't care. Another white dude writes about how rap is destroying the youth. lol

How about when it was Marilyn Manson destroying white youth? No father having whiteys and their mother's who don't care about music.

Then why waste my time with your drivel. I have spent the time, I;ve read all the books, I;ve studied black music, could teach a class in it. I know the impact it makes. I don't..."I just don't care". Ok then why bug those who do care?

The last thing little no father in the home, being raised in povery black kids needs to hear is some rapper....FUCK THE POLICE.