Hillary - Trash First Debate

[boutons_deux]

The Bar Gets Lower: Media Reinforce Double Standard For Trump Ahead Of First Debate

NBC's Andrea Mitchell: Trump Can Misstate Facts During The Debate As Long As He Looks “Smooth” And Adopts An "Acceptable New Norm" Of Behavior.The Hill’s Bob Cusack: “The Bar For Hillary Clinton … Is Higher Than Trump.”

Fox’s Charles Krauthammer: If Trump “Just Shows Up Not Foaming At The Mouth … He Wins Automatically.”

CNN Commentator John Phillips: “Expectations For Hillary Are Going to Be Very High In These Debates. The Expectations For Donald Trump, Not As Much.”

The Atlantic’s James Fallows: A Low Bar For Trump And “Expected Perfection From Hillary Clinton” Will Be A “Factor” In Debates.

NY Times’ Yamiche Alcindor: If Trump “Can Even Get Out A Good Sentence :lol And Show Off His Experience :lol,” Then People Will Think “He’s Doing Well.”

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough: Trump “Is Graded On A Curve.”

CNN's Dana Bash: "Expectations Are Higher" For Clinton In The Debates

Fox's Howard Kurtz: Trump Has A “Lower Bar To Clear Certainly In Terms Of Debates” Than Clinton.

Fox’s Melissa Francis: Clintons Have Set The Bar For Trump So Low That If He Isn’t “Frothing At The Mouth” Or "Wearing A Swastika" It Won’t “Look Like A Victory” For Her.

MSNBC's Mike Barnicle: Trump Is The "Continued Beneficiary Of A Huge Double Standard."

Wash. Post Contributor Paul Waldman: “Hillary Clinton Gets Examined In A Very Different Way Than Donald Trump Does.”

Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin: “Trump Is Being Held To A Less High Standard.”

NY Times' Maggie Haberman: "The Bar Has Been Lowered For Trump Repeatedly."

NY Times’ James Poniewozik Slammed Lauer For Questioning Trump On A Curve.

CNN’s Brian Stelter: “It Is True That Trump Is Held To A Different Standard Than Clinton.”

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/09/22/bar-gets-lower-media-reinforce-double-standard-trump-ahead-first-debate/213261?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediamatters%2Fresearch+%28Me dia+Matters+for+America+-+Research%29

[RandomGuy]

One can hope that Trump will be called to the mat for his stupid ideas.


As Hillary Clinton prepares for the the first presidential debate on Monday evening, the Wall Street Journal reports that she’s readying her answers for two Trumps: one, the freewheeling candidate who shuns the teleprompter at some events, and one who sticks to prepared texts at others.

Trump is lost without a teleprompter. He just doesn't have the mental fortitude to be able to spit out more than a paragraph from prepared notes either.

I think we will continue to see the double standard.

Hopefully the media will still be pissed about the birther anouncement thing.

[spurraider21]

i wonder if they'll have a diligent on-site fact checker who steps in repeatedly. knowing the two candidates, there will need to be TON of fact correction

[CosmicCowboy]

So what do you guys think about debate moderators getting involved in the debate Candy Crowley style? Should that be the role of a debate moderator?

[CosmicCowboy]

i wonder if they'll have a diligent on-site fact checker who steps in repeatedly. knowing the two candidates, there will need to be TON of fact correction

You basically are advocating that the moderator be another participant in the debate. Shouldn't it be just between the two candidates?

[boutons_deux]

The moderator(s) should know their stuff and counter, challenge, right on the spot any bullshit.

like Trash lying that he was against the Iraq war

what does Trash have to hide by not releasing his tax returns

Ask Trash to defend Trash University, now going to trial.


like Trash lying that Hillary started Obama birterism.

How is Trash going to force MX to pay for his wall

Ask Trash why he ignores the studies that say stop-and-frisk was really ineffective against crime, but very effective in alienating blacks and browns

etc, etc.

Trash, dickless as ever, has already said he expects to be treated unfairly, and will very probably trash the moderators later like he trashed the pastor in Detroit after she, "nervous mess", interrupted his political bullshit.

[Warlord23]

So what do you guys think about debate moderators getting involved in the debate Candy Crowley style? Should that be the role of a debate moderator?

With an informed voter base, the moderator wouldn't need to step in at all. But this is the American public. A staggeringly high number of people think Obama is a Muslim, Bush planned 9-11, America literally gave Iran nukes, etc. IMO, once a topic has been discussed, before moving on to the next question, the moderator needs to inform the audience of at least the top 3-5 lies uttered on the topic.

[Aztecfan03]

If the moderator is going to lie like Candy Crowley did, they need to keep their mouths shut.

[DarrinS]

If the moderator is going to lie like Candy Crowley did, they need to keep their mouths shut.

this

[FromWayDowntown]

At least we can be sure that if Mr. Trump isn't smiling enough or is too harsh, Reince Priebus will be there to let us know about that.

[spurraider21]

You basically are advocating that the moderator be another participant in the debate. Shouldn't it be just between the two candidates?
There's absolutely no purpose to a debate if they're just going to make shit up as they go along and they let it slide.

If Trump starts saying shit like "there were thousands of muslims cheering at 9/11 in new jersey" and he isn't corrected, it's dangerous. For many people, they don't keep up with politics/news on a daily basis but they'll tune into the debates.

They're allowed to argue policy and have disagreements, naturally. But when it comes to misrepresentation of facts... fuck no.

[Warlord23]

If the moderator is going to lie like Candy Crowley did, they need to keep their mouths shut.

Exhibit A of the conservative bubble where even videos and transcripts aren't enough to overcome the rubbish published by Drudge and Breitbart. I guess you also believe that Planned Parenthood illegaly sold baby parts, the IRS targeted conservative groups only, and there are no-go zones for non-Muslims in Britain, right?

[Reck]

Exhibit A of the conservative bubble where even videos and transcripts aren't enough to overcome the rubbish published by Drudge and Breitbart. I guess you also believe that Planned Parenthood illegaly sold baby parts, the IRS targeted conservative groups only, and there are no-go zones for non-Muslims in Britain, right?

Amazing.

When video proof is not enough. What else do you need to convince people? They are the lost cause.

[ElNono]

Given the intellectual prowess of the candidates, this would be the perfect debate to be moderated by Sports Illustrated swimsuit models, tbh...

[Reck]

Given the intellectual prowess of the candidates, this would be the perfect debate to be moderated by Sports Illustrated swimsuit models, tbh...

Are you calling Hillary a dumbass? :lol

Bitch is smart. Howevr you may dislike her, she plays the game right.

Trump is a flat out clown who will just plow through the debate with force thinking that will be enough. You're gonna have to bring your brain for this, imo.

[ElNono]

Are you calling Hillary a dumbass? :lol

Bitch is smart. Howevr you may dislike her, she plays the game right.

Trump is a flat out clown who will just plow through the debate with force thinking that will be enough. You're gonna have to bring your brain for this, imo.

If she would be anywhere near as smart as you think she is, she would have this election all wrapped up by now, tbh.

Being a cunt and a shitty liar isn't all that smart when you're in the game of politics.

Heck, Barry ran circles around her. She's lucky it's Trump on the other side now.

[Reck]

If she would be anywhere near as smart as you think she is, she would have this election all wrapped up by now, tbh.

Being a cunt and a shitty liar isn't all that smart when you're in the game of politics.

Heck, Barry ran circles around her. She's lucky it's Trump on the other side now.

Political smart and overall smart are two different things.

She could be as dumb as Trump for all we know on a day to day basis but when it comes to politics, she knows a thing or two.

[baseline bum]

If she would be anywhere near as smart as you think she is, she would have this election all wrapped up by now, tbh.

Being a cunt and a shitty liar isn't all that smart when you're in the game of politics.

Heck, Barry ran circles around her. She's lucky it's Trump on the other side now.

She doesn't have it wrapped up because (1) she's evil and everyone knows (2) she looks like she's about to die. I wouldn't blame her intelligence.

[ElNono]

Political smart and overall smart are two different things.

She could be as dumb as Trump for all we know on a day to day basis but when it comes to politics, she knows a thing or two.

I would agree she's seasoned in politics, but her discourse is far from appealing, or as appealing as it could be.

Ultimately, my reference was to intellect. The ability to understand and reason your positions, and be able to eloquently express them.

Neither of these guys are anywhere near capable of that. Heck, it's hard to enough to know what their positions on different topics are on a week by week basis.

[cd021]

So what do you guys think about debate moderators getting involved in the debate Candy Crowley style? Should that be the role of a debate moderator?

If Holt has to fact check on the spot, then it takes away from the 90 minute debate. Trump is going to give polifact fits trying to fact check each lie.

[boutons_deux]

Here's What the Moderator Should Ask Clinton and Trump at Their First Debate

For Trump:

- Vladimir Putin, whom you have praised (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-praises-putin-216929) as a "strong leader" and a better one than President Barack Obama, has subjected protesters to forced labor and jail time, cracked down on internet freedom, and targeted the LGBT community. Journalists and political opponents of Putin have been murdered. Is this your definition of strong leadership?

- As president, would you lift US sanctions imposed on Russia following its annexation of Crimea?

- Your charitable organization, the Trump Foundation, recently paid a penalty to the IRS for an illegal five-figure donation to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose office was considering investigating Trump University. And recentWashington Post stories reveal how you've used the foundation for your own personal benefit, such as buying a six-foot-tall portrait of yourself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-clue-to-the-whereabouts-of-the-6-foot-tall-portrait-of-donald-trump/2016/09/14/ae65db82-7a8f-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html), and to cover your own personal financial obligations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-used-258000-from-his-charity-to-settle-legal-problems/2016/09/20/adc88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html), perhaps in violation of federal law. You have called the Clinton Foundation a pay-to-play criminal enterprise that must be shut down. So what will happen to the Trump Foundation if you are elected?

- In January you said you would turn your company—which has deep business relationships with companies and financiers in China, Russia, Turkey, India, and elsewhere—over to your children to run if you were elected president. Previous presidents have put their assets in a blind trust to avoid even the appearance of conflicts of interest. But that's not possible in this instance. So how can you deal with other countries when your family business has its own, and perhaps competing, interests in these nations?

- You owe Deutsche Bank hundreds of millions of dollars (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/donald-trump-and-deutsche-bank) at the same time that US regulators are seeking a $14 billion payment from the bank for its contribution to the financial crisis. How could you pursue the Justice Department's action against Deutsche Bank fairly and dispassionately when you're so indebted to it?

- A policy posted on your website calls for a complete indefinite ban on Muslims entering the United States. How do you tell if someone is a Muslim?

- Numerous terrorism experts have said your extreme rhetoric and proposals regarding Muslims hurt counterterrorism efforts by alienating
Muslims at home and abroad who are necessary to the fight against ISIS, and that they help ISIS recruit supporters by allowing it to argue that the United States is targeting the Muslim religion. Do you really know more about this matter than all these experts?

- You also said you know more about ISIS than the generals. Do you actually believe that? Can you tell us how many troops ISIS has, where its strongholds are, who make up its top command, and what the best locations are to mount military attacks against ISIS targets?

- Why do you keep insisting you were against the war in Iraq when you're on the public record supporting the invasion before the war? Have you been lying about this?

- If elected, you have promised to renegotiate the United States' debt. This is a strategy that's possible in business, but many economists believe it would raise the cost of future borrowing and bring financial ruin to the country and the world economy. Are all the economists wrong?

- You say you want to reach out to African American voters. So why then did you call for a return to stop-and-frisk, a policy that has disproportionately affected African Americans and Latinos and that was ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge?

- You blamed Hillary Clinton for starting the Barack Obama birther conspiracy; virtually every fact-checker has deemed that a lie. You also claimed that you put the matter to rest by forcing the president to release his long-form birth certificate. So why, for years afterward, did you continue to question whether he was born in the United States? And why did you say your investigators in Hawaii found material that supposedly supported your birther claims?

- In recent years, you've repeatedly promoted other conspiracy theories: that Ted Cruz's father played a role in the JFK assassination, that vaccines cause autism, that Obama was a founder of ISIS. Why do you keep making these bizarre claims?

- You've had the vocal support of white supremacists like David Duke and leaders of the alt-right movement, and at times you and your advisers have retweeted their incendiary tweets. You also appeared on Alex Jones' talk show and called him "amazing." Jones is a 9/11 truther who has suggested that the Sandy Hook massacre never happened and that the government is deliberately (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/forget-his-911-truther-tirades-here-are-7-of-alex-jones-most-unhinged-conspiracy-theories/) turning kids gay by sneaking estrogen into juice boxes. Will you take this opportunity to renounce all these folks and say you don't welcome the support of racists and other extremists?

- You have made illegal immigration a top issue. Yet your modeling agency recruited models who worked in the United States without the right immigration papers (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration). Isn't that hypocrisy?

- You often say you hire only the "best people," yet you have gone through multiple campaign managers in less than a year. Did you not hire the "best people"? Why should voters believe that you would do better with important positions in your administration?

- In a 2007 deposition (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/donald-trump-lies-about-dealings-mafia-figures), you said under oath that you have never associated with anyone you knew to be affiliated with organized crime. Yet in the early 1980s you leased property for an Atlantic City casino from two men linked to the Mafia. And in 1999, you told the Associated Press, "I build buildings. I have to deal with the unions, the mob, some of the roughest men you've ever seen in your life." So did you lie during that deposition?

- After the mass shooting in Orlando, you said LGBT Americans should vote for you and that your proposed ban on immigration from certain countries would protect LGBT people. But you have appeared at several events organized by anti-LGBT organizations, declared your support for the North Carolina bathroom bill, and proposed possible Supreme Court nominees who oppose LGBT rights. So why should any LGBT person take you seriously?

- In a 2015 interview, you said (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-dismisses-50-percent-america-deplorables), "The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don't have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry—and it's unfair to them—but cannot carry the other 50 percent." This suggests you share the view that Mitt Romney expressed in 2012: that 47 percent of Americans are freeloaders who won't take responsibility for their own lives. Isn't that insulting to half of Americans?

- You say you're under audit so you can't release your tax returns. That didn't stop Richard Nixon. But would you allow a neutral third party to review your tax forms from the past 10 years and release publicly your income, your income sources, your effective tax rate, and your charitable contributions?

- Hillary and Bill Clinton attended your third wedding (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/17/the-wedding-that-explains-the-election.html). Why did you invite them? Did you like them personally at the time?

- On many occasions you have failed to pay contractors (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/)—often small businesses—who have done work for you and your properties. Earlier this year, before she was working for you, your current campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, said (http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/19/here-s-how-trump-s-new-campaign-manager-attacked-him-cable-news-pundit/212524) of you, "He says he's for the little guy, but he's actually built a lot of his businesses on the backs of the little guy…through not paying contractors after you've built something. The little guys have suffered." How can voters be assured that if elected you will care about working men and women?

- You had to pay a $750,000 fine when the Justice Department charged you with violating Wall Street trading rules. The Securities and Exchange Commission cited your company for issuing inaccurate earnings information. The Federal Election Commission fined you for exceeding the annual limit on campaign contributions. The New York State lobbying commission imposed a $250,000 fine on you for failing to disclose the full extent of your lobbying of state legislators. Should people call you Crooked Donald?

For Clinton:

- You said (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/clinton-us-should-use-military-response-fight-cyberattacks-russia-china-1579187) recently that the United States should consider a "military response" to the hacking conducted by other nations. What do you have in mind? And could the US government ever conclusively identify those responsible for any given attack?

- Is it still possible to defeat ISIS and Syrian President Bashar Assad at the same time? How would your anti-ISIS policy differ from what President Obama has been doing?

- Obama campaigned in 2008 on bridging the partisan divide. Now things are more polarized than ever. Why do you think you can work better and more productively with Republicans in Congress than Obama has?

- You have claimed that you used a private email server for convenience. But a report by the State Department's inspector general found that in 2010 you told an aide who suggested you use a department email that "I don't want any risk of the personal being accessible." Did you use your private server merely for convenience, or were you trying to avoid having to comply with public records laws that might compel you to release information you did not want the public to see?

- Last year, you suggested that Black Lives Matter activists propose clear policy ideas instead of only protesting. In August, a collective of activists released "A Vision for Black Lives," a document outlining policies that could be enacted to help black America. Have you looked at that document? Would you work to enact any of the policy proposals offered by the activists?

- Why have you repeatedly praised Henry Kissinger, whose underhanded and covert diplomacy led to brutal massacres (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-henry-kissinger-world-order) around the globe, including in Chile, Argentina, East Timor, and Bangladesh?

- With competition falling on the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, some Democrats in Congress are calling for the public option—a policy that you have said you support. But health care reform is a hard sell on Capitol Hill, as you know from your own experience in the 1990s. Would you make the public option a priority as president?

- You've announced steps to distance yourself from the Clinton Foundation should you become president. But was it a mistake for the foundation to accept large donations from foreign individuals and entities while you were in charge of US foreign policy and would soon run for the presidency? Are people wrong to wonder if contributors to the foundation were trying to win favor with you and you might be more amenable to their requests and preferences?

- Would you consider it unseemly for four of the past five presidents to come from two families? What does this say about the United States and its political system?

- It took you more than eight months this year to hold your first press conference. Why did you hide for so long from the reporters who cover you the most? Don't you think the public deserves to have its politicians vigorously questioned by the press?

- As secretary of state, you served as something of a global fracking evangelist (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron). What would you say to Americans whose neighborhoods have suffered drinking-water contamination (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/10/radioactivity-fracking-waste-pennsylvania) and earthquakes (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/03/does-fracking-cause-earthquakes-wastewater-dewatering) as a result of fracking?

- Do you think it's not too late to stop global warming? Can major climate initiatives be undertaken by executive order, or will you need to win the cooperation of Congress?

- You and your husband have earned tens of millions of dollars giving paid speeches, including to various Wall Street and big finance firms. In one case, your husband pocketed $250,000 for speaking to a so-called vulture fund (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo) that has purchased companies, saddled them with debt, and laid off employees to extract the maximum profits. Why should Americans believe you will rein in Wall Street abuses or that you have their economic interests at heart?

- You served in the US Senate for eight years. Donald Trump says the political system is rigged—and that he has benefited by buying influence with lobbyists and contributions. In your time in the Senate, did you see evidence that legislators are indeed influenced by big-money interests and contributors? Can you give examples?

- You attended Donald Trump's third wedding (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/17/the-wedding-that-explains-the-election.html). Why? Did you like him personally? And why do you think he invited you and your husband?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/debate-questions-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL...hardball/softball

nice work motherjones.

[ducks]

Mark Cuban Will Be Trump's Grim Spectre Of Doom From The Front Row Of Next Week's Debate

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mark-cuban-trumps-grim-spectre-130044742.html

[boutons_deux]

LOL...hardball/softball

nice work motherjones.

Trash has told the biggest lies, made the most outlandish, unbelievable, unachievable claims, so of course challenging him appears TO YOU to be hardball

Give your list of hardball questions for Hillary.

[CosmicCowboy]

Mark Cuban Will Be Trump's Grim Spectre Of Doom From The Front Row Of Next Week's Debate

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mark-cuban-trumps-grim-spectre-130044742.html

:lol sweet

More Mark Cuban basketball faces...

http://sportsdaydfw.imgix.net/Mark_Cuban_Insider_Trading_Basketball.jpg?w=1200&h=630&format=jpg&crop=faces&fit=crop

[UNT Eagles 2016]

boutons deux is Jacques Chirac.

[101A]

The debate will only mean something if Trump is completely out of character, and comes across as acceptably competent and stable for the duration.

It could also expose Hillary as more "sick" than we have been led to understand, or allay those fears because she's fine.

Of course if there is any danger that she is actually in danger of physically not making it through the debate, I expect some incident to occur this weekend that gives her reason to bow out; probably Trump being too immature and not worth her time type controversy.

[hater]

Donald vs Shitler round 1.

I wont watch it but will watch highlights. ShillAdolph is aout to get knocked the fuck out :lmao

[hater]

Why am I not surprised tha a degenerate freak like Mark Cuban is a Shitler shill :lmao

[Axl Rose]

Hillary demanding a custom made podium so that Trump doesn't tower over her lol

[RandomGuy]

LOL...hardball/softball

nice work motherjones.

They all seemed pretty hardball to me. I thought it was pretty good.

(edit)

Trumps list is a lot longer, because he has been accumulating stupid statements for a long time. they all seem to blend together, but once you compile them... they add up.

That is part of what Sam Harris was alluding to when he said that Trump was dangerously ignorant, and obviously so.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trash supporters don't want a moderator to call out lies :lol

This is going to be an embarrassment for the Cuckald. This ain't Jeb and the doctor, ferret head.

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q

[ducks]

Trash supporters don't want a moderator to call out lies :lol

This is going to be an embarrassment for the Cuckald. This ain't Jeb and the doctor, ferret head.
should not Clinton be smart enough to call out the lie?

[hater]

Yup n a debate it shud b on the opponent to call out d lies

:lmao Shitler needing an army of guys to debate Trump :lmao

Faggots

[ducks]

Yup n a debate it shud b on the opponent to call out d lies

:lmao Shitler needing an army of guys to debate Trump :lmao

Faggots
she is sick though she needs the breaks
how dare she have to think and stand at the same time

[boutons_deux]

she is sick though she needs the breaks

ducks is sick though he needs the brains

[ducks]

Cuban does not even have the money to go he gets Clinton to get him a seat

[TheGreatYacht]

Cuban does not even have the money to go he gets Clinton to get him a seat
Cuban can own Trump 8 or 10 times

[hater]

Why dont Shitlers camp just hire an army of mexican lesbos to sit on front row? :lmao

[hater]

Get ready to see a lot of this :lmao


http://nbatitlechase.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Mark-Cuban-Death-Stare-At-Cameraman-For-Zooming-In-On-Him-While-Mavs-Are-Losing.jpg

http://www.chaosscenario.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/24/cuban270x336.jpg

http://sportsdaydfw.imgix.net/Mark_Cuban_Insider_Trading_Basketball.jpg?q=50&auto=format&w=600

[RandomGuy]

Why dont Shitlers camp just hire an army of mexican lesbos to sit on front row? :lmao

" :lmao "


If only you were as funny as you think you are.

[CosmicCowboy]

This Cuban attention thing is ridiculous. Just another version of him "dancing with the stars". Dude, if you want to be a player step up the the plate and run for election. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

[ElNono]

This Cuban attention thing is ridiculous. Just another version of him "dancing with the stars". Dude, if you want to be a player step up the the plate and run for election. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

He's going to run the next time around. He's actually learning from Trump, IMO...

[boutons_deux]

The Cuban ploy is brilliant. Dems should put a spotlight on him so Trash can see him clearly, rather than hidden in the darkened seats.

Cuban will grimace, guffaw, laugh, shake his head, etc and Trash's two-bit-punk thin skin will bleed.

I bet anything that Trash, for one reason, or a question, or gotcha by Hillary, will lose it and go full insane, improv, bullshitting Trash, right down to his low bar, before 10Ms of viewers.

[ducks]

I think it would be great if trump in his opening statement says it was nice of you to come to see the debate in person to Cuban
Cuban would be dumbfounded like he is on running his basketball team
no loyalty to his team that actually won a title for him

[TheSanityAnnex]

The Cuban ploy is brilliant. Dems should put a spotlight on him so Trash can see him clearly, rather than hidden in the darkened seats.

Cuban will grimace, guffaw, laugh, shake his head, etc and Trash's two-bit-punk thin skin will bleed.

I bet anything that Trash, for one reason, or a question, or gotcha by Hillary, will lose it and go full insane, improv, bullshitting Trash, right down to his low bar, before 10Ms of viewers.
I'll take the bet. If he doesn't you leave the site and never spam this forum again. If he does go "full insane" pick whatever for me. We got a deal?

[Th'Pusher]

This Cuban attention thing is ridiculous. Just another version of him "dancing with the stars". Dude, if you want to be a player step up the the plate and run for election. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
Like trump hasn't threatened to run for president the last 4 election cycles. :lol

[Reck]

I'll take the bet. If he doesn't you leave the site and never spam this forum again. If he does go "full insane" pick whatever for me. We got a deal?

Just make it simpler.

If Trump mentions or talks about Cuban, bookaki wins and you have to leave.

There is a good chance Trump sees him sitting there and gets baited into a comment.

[boutons_deux]

TRUMP WARNS THAT CLINTON WILL RIG DEBATE BY USING FACTS

TOLEDO — At a campaign rally on Friday, Donald Trump warned that Hillary Clinton is scheming to “rig the debate by using facts” in their first televised face-off, on Monday.

“You just watch, folks,” Trump told supporters in Toledo, Ohio. “Crooked Hillary is going to slip in little facts all night long, and that’s how she’s going to try to rig the thing.”

“It’s a disgrace,” he added.

The billionaire drew a sharp contrast between himself and the former Secretary of State by claiming that his debate prep “involved no facts whatsoever.”

“I am taking a pledge not to use facts at the debate,” he said, raising his right hand. “I challenge Crooked Hillary to take that pledge.”

He also warned that unless CNN, which is hosting the debate, promises to forbid the use of facts, he might pull out of Monday’s contest.

“I’m only going to debate if I’m treated fairly, and facts don’t treat me fairly,” he said.

At CNN, a spokesperson assured Trump that the network would do everything in its power to keep the debate “as free of facts as possible.”

“We have a well-established practice at CNN,” the spokesperson said. “If the candidates start straying into facts, data, or other verifiable information, we have instructed the moderators to cut them off.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-warns-that-clinton-will-rig-debate-by-using-facts (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-warns-that-clinton-will-rig-debate-by-using-facts)

[hater]

:lmao needing a cheerleader to help u survive a dbate :lmao

What a disgrace Shitler is

[TheGreatYacht]

Donnie should hire some Colombian coked up Oompa Loompas to sit in the front row :lmao

[Reck]

:lmao needing a cheerleader to help u survive a dbate :lmao

What a disgrace Shitler is

I feel for you bro. Your cluelessness knows no bounds.

Trump's strategy is to let her talk all she wants. :lmao

Great idea, let Hillary look presidential while laying out her policies while Trump stands on a corner scared out of his mind to open his mouth. :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol trump says he should put Gennifer Flowers next to Mark Cuban.:lol

[hater]

Lol trump says he should put Gennifer Flowers next to Mark Cuban.:lol

:lmao its already a done deal

She has agreed to sit next to Cuban according to her assistant :lmao

:lmao Shitler

[hater]

Donnie should hire some Colombian coked up Oompa Loompas to sit in the front row :lmao

Bills humpa lumpa will do just fine instead :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Cuban the Alpha sitting front row to a live massacre :wow

Hillary is going to snatch the corn hair off that man's gigantic cranium

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump
5h5 hours ago
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!

[ducks]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3805768/amp/Trump-threatens-invite-Bill-Clinton-s-mistress-Gennifer-Flowers-debate-Hillary-choose-dopey-billionaire-Mark-Cuban-row.html

[hater]

Shits getting real :lol

[ducks]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e6e3f9e4b0e28b2b5459b0

[hater]

Damn. Thats cold blooded. Wonder if Genitals Flowers will sit close to Bill :lmao

[hater]

Trump went balls deep :lol

[spurraider21]

Trump went balls deep :lol
in ivanka?

[hater]

in ivanka?

Wouldnt u?

[spurraider21]

Wouldnt u?
sure, as long as i'm not her father :lol

[ducks]

Nate silver just tweeted if trump wins debate he will pull ahead

[dbestpro]

Let each side pick the person to ask and counter the questions for the other side. That would be fun.

[spurraider21]

Nate silver just tweeted if trump wins debate he will pull ahead
so you respect nate silver when he says good things about trump only? Sad!

[rasuo214]

TRUMP WARNS THAT CLINTON WILL RIG DEBATE BY USING FACTS

TOLEDO — At a campaign rally on Friday, Donald Trump warned that Hillary Clinton is scheming to “rig the debate by using facts” in their first televised face-off, on Monday.

“You just watch, folks,” Trump told supporters in Toledo, Ohio. “Crooked Hillary is going to slip in little facts all night long, and that’s how she’s going to try to rig the thing.”

“It’s a disgrace,” he added.

The billionaire drew a sharp contrast between himself and the former Secretary of State by claiming that his debate prep “involved no facts whatsoever.”

“I am taking a pledge not to use facts at the debate,” he said, raising his right hand. “I challenge Crooked Hillary to take that pledge.”

He also warned that unless CNN, which is hosting the debate, promises to forbid the use of facts, he might pull out of Monday’s contest.

“I’m only going to debate if I’m treated fairly, and facts don’t treat me fairly,” he said.

At CNN, a spokesperson assured Trump that the network would do everything in its power to keep the debate “as free of facts as possible.”

“We have a well-established practice at CNN,” the spokesperson said. “If the candidates start straying into facts, data, or other verifiable information, we have instructed the moderators to cut them off.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-warns-that-clinton-will-rig-debate-by-using-facts

Why are you posting satire as if it is factual and then trying to hide it?

[rasuo214]

Donald J. Trump
5h5 hours ago
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!

They might need Jerry Springer to moderate this debate.

[pgardn]

Wouldnt u?

So you would hump your daughter? Excellent boya.

Have you been introduced to Avante?

[z0sa]

Why are you posting satire as if it is factual and then trying to hide it?

Boutons is your classic example of the average idiot who demands perfection from certain people/groups while never feeling an obligation to practice the same standard of ethics himself.

When cornered, he will accuse in a blanket statement ANYONE, even forwardly progressive posters, of being neocons.

[hater]

They might need Jerry Springer to moderate this debate.

More like that other dude where Billy nigga Clintler will dance the macarena when he says "you are not the father" :lmao

[Reck]

Mark Cuban already affecting the tiny mind that's Trump. :lol

Hillary is used to be a cuck tress so she doesn't care a random mistress is attending any debates. Backfire :lol

[z0sa]

Mark Cuban already affecting the tiny mind that's Trump. :lol

Hillary is used to be a cuck tress so she doesn't care a random mistress is attending any debates. Backfire :lol

The only reason Cuban cares is because Trump=volatile markets. Hes a punk letting himself be inserted into the debate at all because of the obvious conflict of interest.

Theres so many of those though i guess it dont matter to anyone else.

[boutons_deux]

Trash has invited Hannover Flowers, ready to debate policy! :Lol

[Reck]

Nate silver just tweeted if trump wins debate he will pull ahead

For the short term, yes.

if either of them wins it, they'll get a slight poll bounce but it will be gone and back to normal within a week.

[hater]

:lmao back to normal

Its a virtual dead heat right now

[Reck]

:lmao back to normal

Its a virtual dead heat right now

No its fucking not, you moron. :lol

She has the clear lead in both polls and electoral vote. Not that you know the difference. :lmao

[ducks]

within 2 in pen with 4 man race
the attacks helped trumo

[Reck]

within 2 in pen with 4 man race
the attacks helped trumo

Only 400 people polled. :lol

Not enough of a sample to conclude anything from it. Oh and it's PA. A place Trump can only dream of winning.

[ducks]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ 400 is a small sample but they did give it a a grade poll

[ducks]

Johnson and stein could be losing steam also

[Winehole23]

:lmao back to normal

Its a virtual dead heat right nowyour guy is trailing an obvious crook, why?

[ducks]

No its fucking not, you moron. :lol

She has the clear lead in both polls and electoral vote. Not that you know the difference. :lmao
headline from washington post
Poll: Clinton, Trump in virtual dead heat on eve of first debate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-clinton-trump-in-virtual-dead-heat-on-eve-of-first-debate/2016/09/24/b99c95de-81cb-11e6-8327-f141a7beb626_story.html

[ducks]

your guy is trailing an obvious crook, why?


clinton wants to know why she is not up 50 why?

[Reck]

headline from washington post
Poll: Clinton, Trump in virtual dead heat on eve of first debate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-clinton-trump-in-virtual-dead-heat-on-eve-of-first-debate/2016/09/24/b99c95de-81cb-11e6-8327-f141a7beb626_story.html

Sept 19-21

Following the week where she nearly collapse. There is another Washington Post poll that has her up 6 points that was taken before the 911 memorial. This same poll will have her up 5 or 6 by the time they poll again.

[Reck]

ABC News/Wash Post (http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1181a12016Election.pdf)
9/5 - 9/8

642 LV
4.5
46
41
9
2
Clinton +5






ABC News/Wash Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/09/25/National-Politics/Polling/release_446.xml?tid=a_inl)
9/19 - 9/22

651 LV
4.5
46
44
5
1
Clinton +2

[ducks]

996 sample trump within 1 of col
good thing clinton pulled those ads
LOL good call clinton
cbs poll

[boutons_deux]

clinton wants to know why she is not up 50 why?

... because Ms of Trash supporters with IQ of 50 and emotional maturity of 5 year old.

[Reck]

996 sample trump within 1 of col
good thing clinton pulled those ads
LOL good call clinton
cbs poll

Yes, just like Trump is closing in on New York and New Hampshire, amirite? :lmao

[DarrinS]

This admission of bias is stunning.

According to Carole Simpson, if Hillary can't confront Trump, then it's up to Lester to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/09/24/carole-simpson-on-first-debate.cnn

[Reck]

This admission of bias is stunning.

According to Carole Simpson, if Hillary can't confront Trump, then it's up to Lester to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/09/24/carole-simpson-on-first-debate.cnn

Bit unfair. But dude cant just be sitting there doing nothing for an hour and a half.

This goes both side btw. For example if Hillary gets asked about emails and she dismisses it, the moderator should not let it slide. Same with Trump's bullshit.

[boutons_deux]

This admission of bias is stunning.

According to Carole Simpson, if Hillary can't confront Trump, then it's up to Lester to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/09/24/carole-simpson-on-first-debate.cnn

yes, your bias is not stunning, it's expected.

Trash has LIED non-stop since the escalator.

The press enabled Trash.

An ABC Exec gave away the game: "More Trash on TV, means more $$$ for TV."

[ducks]

Wesley Loucks
C is for Clinton whose campaign is sliding. And C’s for the classified emails she’s hiding. C’s for concussion, a bump in December. And C is for can’t, as in “I can’t remember”. C is for closet where servers were hid. And C is for cough that’s affecting her bid. C is for cash as in “pay to play.” Don’t you ‘C’ she is lying in so many ways. HILLARY 4 PRISON!!!

[DarrinS]

Bit unfair. But dude cant just be sitting there doing nothing for an hour and a half.

This goes both side btw. For example if Hillary gets asked about emails and she dismisses it, the moderator should not let it slide. Same with Trump's bullshit.


She said in that interview that no one cares about her emails anymore.

[boutons_deux]

She said in that interview that no one cares about her emails anymore.

Benghazi! :lol

Repug governance! :lol

Repugs are shooting blanks. Just like impeaching Slick Willie, the Repugs got a huge hard on, but couldn't finish.

[hater]

Bit unfair. But dude cant just be sitting there doing nothing for an hour and a half.

This goes both side btw. For example if Hillary gets asked about emails and she dismisses it, the moderator should not let it slide. Same with Trump's bullshit.

Thats all Shillary has been doing when asked about emails. Dismissing

[Reck]

Damn. Thats cold blooded. Wonder if Genitals Flowers will sit close to Bill :lmao


Trump went balls deep :lol

Like usual Trump is all talk, no action.

She's not going.

Trump shooting blanks. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump campaign says media should not be ‘fact-checkers’

On the eve of the first presidential debate, a Trump spokesperson says Trump should not be challenged by the media or moderators

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-no-factcheck-please-56950561d41c#.22c3gbsog

Holy Shit. Trash and his people are shitbags from top to bottom.

[Axl Rose]

Trump campaign says media should not be ‘fact-checkers’

On the eve of the first presidential debate, a Trump spokesperson says Trump should not be challenged by the media or moderators

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-no-factcheck-please-56950561d41c#.22c3gbsog

Holy Shit. Trash and his people are shitbags from top to bottom.



Hillary should be the fact checker, it's a debate. We don't need biased one sided fact checkers. They can call each other out where they see fit

[Spurminator]

Hillary should be the fact checker, it's a debate. We don't need biased one sided fact checkers. They can call each other out where they see fit

A debate is not a fact checking contest. It's absolutely the moderator's job to call out falsehoods presented by either candidate.

[Splits]

Prediction by 11:30 tomorrow night:

hater will claim Trump destroyed her
Reck will claim Clinton destroyed him
ducks will still be unable to type a coherent sentence or embed a tweet

[Reck]

Prediction by 11:30 tomorrow night:

hater will claim Trump destroyed her
Reck will claim Clinton destroyed him
ducks will still be unable to type a coherent sentence or embed a tweet

Nah, I don't speak in those broad retarded terms.

I do think she will win on the issues. She simply outmatches him on substance.

But I bet Reddit and Facebook will claim anihilation by Trump.

[ducks]

The fact checkers are suppose to be neutral but they are liberals
Who even says the fact checkers are right ?

[Splits]

The fact checkers are suppose to be neutral but they are liberals
Who even says the fact checkers are right ?

Yeah, who needs facts when we have FEELINGS!

[ducks]

If people can not figure out the truth by themselves then they are stupid

[Splits]

If people can not figure out the truth by themselves then they are stupid

Here, take a quiz:

Was Obama born in the United States?

Is Obama a Muslim?

Did Saddam have a hand in 9/11?

How many Syrian refugees have committed attacks on US soil?

Can you vote 10 times if voter ID laws are not in effect?

Over the past 20 years, approximately how many cases of voter impersonation have been found?

[Reck]

Very ironic that Trumps supporters are up in arms and crying about fact checks while they call Hillary a liar at the same time. :lol

If you are a truth teller like Trump swears he is, he should welcome that. It will clearly benefit him...

[Axl Rose]

A debate is not a fact checking contest. It's absolutely the moderator's job to call out falsehoods presented by either candidate.
A debate is just one party trying to make his case while the other person tries to make theirs. The best way to beat someone in a debate is to prove them wrong and build up your own case. What better way to do that then call the other party out with facts? If trump is such a liar and Hillary knows so much about the political life of this nation then she should have no problem discerning fact from fiction without a helper.

[Reck]

A debate is just one party trying to make his case while the other person tries to make theirs. The best way to beat someone in a debate is to prove them wrong and build up your own case. What better way to do that then call the other party out with facts? If trump is such a liar and Hillary knows so much about the political life of this nation then she should have no problem discerning fact from fiction without a helper.

You can't talk about the issues while also pointing out every Trump lie.

You either decide to spend the allotted time you have to disprove a lie. Of you can ignore all the lies and focus on the issues.

Cant do both. That's why a moderator is vital.

[Axl Rose]

You can't talk about the issues while also pointing out every Trump lie.

You either decide to spend the allotted time you have to disprove a lie. Of you can ignore all the lies and focus on the issues.

Cant do both. That's why a moderator is vital.
It's 90 minutes, plenty of time to talk about anything you want to talk about and call out lies. If trump is such a liar and Hillary simply calls him out time and time again she wins. You all know that she needs help and that's what it's all about

[ducks]

Republican nominee Donald Trump has taken a 1-point lead over Hillary Clinton in the latest Morning Consult national poll released on Sunday.

The results:

Trump: 39 percent
Clinton: 38 percent
Gary Johnson 9 percent
Jill Stein: 4 percent

[boutons_deux]

No that EVERYBODY knows Trash is pathological liar (we are well past "misstated", "misspoke", "misinformation", etC), I bet Hillary calls him a liar.

[boutons_deux]

Near Absence Of Trump Campaign’s Latest Russia Problem From Sunday Shows Follows A Familiar Pattern

CNN’s Jake Tapper was the only Sunday show host on September 25 to discuss a report that American intelligence officials are probing Russian government ties to a man Trump has identified as a foreign policy adviser, Carter Page.

This latest revelation is yet another missed opportunity by the Sunday political talk shows to feature investigative stories about Trump and his campaign over the past month.

The near blackout of this story from the Sunday shows is turning into a familiar pattern regarding investigative reports on Trump.

Over the past month, the Sunday political talk shows have repeatedly failed to feature new reporting that reflects poorly on Trump.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/09/25/near-absence-trump-campaign-s-latest-russia-problem-sunday-shows-follows-familiar-pattern/213307?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

It's nothing but that Old Liberal Media Bias and Conspiracy Out To Get Repugs!

[boutons_deux]

Hillary Clinton Already Has Donald Trump Completely Rattled Before The Debate\

Donald Trump is already showing signs that Hillary Clinton has him completely rattled before the first presidential debate on Monday night.


Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!
12:08 PM - 24 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/779729180334387200)



30,07430,074 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=779729180334387200) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< :lol

61,47361,473 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=779729180334387200) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< :lol




Trump’s tweet was total insanity. Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with Gennifer Flowers.

Trump is mad at Mark Cuban because he is a billionaire, and he points out that Donald Trump is a fraud.

The Gennifer Flowers threat was just more of Trump flying off the handle and talking out of his backside.

Mike Pence was left to clean up Trump’s mess on Fox News Sunday, “Gennifer Flowers will not be attending the debate tomorrow night.

Donald Trump was using the tweet yesterday really to mock an effort by Hillary Clinton and her campaign to really distract attention from what the American people are going to be focused tomorrow night, which is on the issues, on the choice that we face.

I mean, Hillary Clinton essentially wants to continue the policies of this administration that have weakened America’s place in the world, stifled America’s economy, walked away from our most cherished constitutional principles.”

It only took putting Mark Cuban in the front row at the debate for Trump to lose his mind and say something completely irrational and insane.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/25/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-completely-rattled-debate.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Trash "on the issues" ? :lol

[boutons_deux]

How to Beat Trump in a Debate

He has three weaknesses.

In debate after debate after debate during the Republican primaries, Trump

showed little understanding of or curiosity about public policy,

instigated childish fights with his rivals, and

disappeared from the conversation altogether when it bored him.

He skipped one debate because he didn’t like Fox News’ sass. In another that he did attend,

he bragged about the size of his penis.

Never forget that he bragged about the size of his penis in a debate among candidates vying for the United States presidency.

And never forget that, either in spite or because of all this, he won the Republican nomination :lol

What keeps the Clinton campaign awake at night must be the possibility of Trump passing through this first debate with a calm and poise for which he is not known.

Clinton’s goal will be to induce such behavior—to coax out the real Trump, the one who “won” in the primary by losing the majority of the country.

Here’s how she can do that.

Ask him to explain pretty much anything.

Get him to say something incredibly sexist.

Draw out his childishness.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/09/how_to_beat_trump_in_a_debate.html

[boutons_deux]

Chuck Todd: Trump should have invited a ‘grieving Benghazi mother’ to debate instead of Flowers

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/chuck-todd-trump-should-have-invited-a-grieving-benghazi-mother-to-debate-instead-of-flowers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Benghazi! :lol

[Spurminator]

A debate is just one party trying to make his case while the other person tries to make theirs. The best way to beat someone in a debate is to prove them wrong and build up your own case. What better way to do that then call the other party out with facts? If trump is such a liar and Hillary knows so much about the political life of this nation then she should have no problem discerning fact from fiction without a helper.

And I'm sure she will, but the journalism plays a role in presenting reality to its audience. If we have to rely on the two candidates alone, the media isn't doing its duty.

[boutons_deux]

"journalism plays a role"

... in misrepresenting, if necessary, the race as close, to keep viewership up, which keeps ad $$$ up. BigCorp $$$ count more, for TV, than any candidate.

[Reck]

Republican nominee Donald Trump has taken a 1-point lead over Hillary Clinton in the latest Morning Consult national poll released on Sunday.

The results:

Trump: 39 percent
Clinton: 38 percent
Gary Johnson 9 percent
Jill Stein: 4 percent

Also did I missed the part where the morning consult has a republican bias? :lmao

[Axl Rose]

And I'm sure she will, but the journalism plays a role in presenting reality to its audience. If we have to rely on the two candidates alone, the media isn't doing its duty.
So it's the medias duty to spin it? Media people are subjective, we don't need em for a 1 on 1 debate. Let people decide themselves what to think

[ElNono]

Betting odds, from BetFair and PredictIt

https://electionbettingodds.com/

[Reck]

Betting odds, from BetFair and PredictIt

https://electionbettingodds.com/

What does 0.1 amount to?

Gary and that looney bitch couldn't win with Trump or Hillary dropping out.

[Spurminator]

So it's the medias duty to spin it? Media people are subjective, we don't need em for a 1 on 1 debate. Let people decide themselves what to think

No it's the media's duty to remove spin.

[ducks]

The results in Colorado:

Trump: 42 percent;
Clinton: 41 percent;
Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson: 13 percent;
Green Party nominee Jill Stein: 3 percent.
The results in Pennsylvania:

Clinton: 45 percent;
Trump: 44 percent;
Johnson: 6 percent;
Stein: 3 percent.

Cnn poll

[ducks]

Bloomberg Poll: Trump, Clinton Tied as First Debate Looms
46 each two way trump up 2 4 way

[Axl Rose]

No it's the media's duty to remove spin.
Its the medias duty to report, not to hold hillarys hand at the debate

[ducks]

Ahead of Debate, Trump Endorsed by US Immigration Officers
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ahead-debate-trump-endorsed-u-immigration-officers-100639011.html

Crane said the endorsement was conducted by a vote of the union's membership and that Clinton received only 5 percent of the vote.:wow

[Spurminator]

Its the medias duty to report, not to hold hillarys hand at the debate

Why do you keep assuming that fact-checking only benefits Hillary?

[ducks]

poll said 46 percent says mod will help Clinton
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/voters_see_debate_moderators_giving_clinton_a_help ing_hand

[Axl Rose]

Why do you keep assuming that fact-checking only benefits Hillary?
Because they won't fact check her, establishment and media are all in for Clinton. I'd love for them to call her out but they won't. They don't even touch her decades ling
war on women.

[DarrinS]

Clinton camp asks Lester Holt to fact-check Trump tonight

lol


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-lester-holt-fact-check-trump-228663

[Spurminator]

Because they won't fact check her, establishment and media are all in for Clinton. I'd love for them to call her out but they won't.

Then they're not doing their job.

[Axl Rose]

Then they're not doing their job.
Nope. Sad!

[Spurminator]

Clinton camp asks Lester Holt to fact-check Trump tonight

lol


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-lester-holt-fact-check-trump-228663

He should fact-check both of them.

This all stems from Matt Lauer's rightly-criticized interview with Trump a few weeks ago.

[CosmicCowboy]

i doubt the moderators directly personally fact check either one.

What I expect to happen when one tells a whopper is the moderator will redirect to the other one and ask them if they want to respond to the statement.

[Spurminator]

I disagree, I think Holt will overcompensate if anything after the feedback on Lauer. He may even refer directly to those interviews.

[DarrinS]

He should fact-check both of them.

This all stems from Matt Lauer's rightly-criticized interview with Trump a few weeks ago.


Yeah, people were criticizing Jimmy Fallon for not "pressing Trump". I don't know why people think lare night talk shows should be Meet The Press.

[boutons_deux]

Clinton To Press Trump To Spell Out Policy Plans In U.S. Presidential Debate

Democrat Hillary Clinton will press Republican Donald Trump to provide more specifics on his policies in their presidential debate on Monday,

Clinton would challenge Trump at the debate “to reveal what his plans are. You know, for example, he has not revealed any plan whatsoever to defeat ISIS (Islamic State) militants.”

http://www.nationalmemo.com/clinton-press-trump-spell-policy-plans-u-s-presidential-debate/

[boutons_deux]

I reviewed every Republican primary debate. Here are Trump’s 7 key moves.


1) Catchphrases: Trump speaks in memorable but meaningless three-word slogans

2) Mythmaking: Trump turns tough policy questions into simple stories

3) The Gish Gallop: Trump’s endless parade of falsehoods

4) Drama: How Trump riled up antagonists

5) Running commentary: Trump lets the voters peek behind the curtain

6) Filibusters: Trump runs out the clock before he has to give details

7) Egomania: Trump only cares when the conversation is about him


http://www.vox.com/2016/9/26/13036258/donald-trump-debate-win-lies-preparation

[boutons_deux]

5 Ways Hillary Clinton Can Mock Thin-Skinned Trump to Make Him Go Bonkers at Tonight's Debate

The size of various things seems to be a sore spot for Trump.

1. Mention his tiny fingers. Chances of a resulting Trump meltdown: 4 out of 5.

2. Imply that he may have a micropenis. Chances of a resulting Trump meltdown: 5 out of 5.

3. Suggest he doesn’t have the brains to be president. Chances of a resulting Trump meltdown: 4 out of 5.

4. Hint that he's secretly poor. Chances of a resulting Trump meltdown: off the chart.

5. Note that to know Donald Trump is not to love Donald Trump. Chances of a resulting Trump meltdown: 3 out of 5.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/5-things-hillary-clinton-can-mock-about-thin-skinned-trump-make-him-go-bonkers

and of course, "why do you want to fuck your daughter?

or

"As a child rapist, when did you stop fucking your daughter(s)?"

[boutons_deux]

Media Rocked By New Poll Of Voters Demanding That Moderators Fact Check Debates

Voters are demanding that the debate moderators fact check the candidates during the debate according to a new poll.


Voters want fact checks during the debates. Nearly half of Trump supporters want debate moderators to fact-check the candidates.

The American people want to be informed.

Fact checking isn’t a matter of partisan politics but of the media doing their job of vetting the presidential candidates.

The corporate media are setting themselves up for a giant public backlash if they continue to insist on keeping fact checking out of the debates.

There is no point in having journalists moderate the presidential debates if they aren’t going to fact check.

Voters are fed up with a do-nothing Congress, and a government that doesn’t get things done.

This attitude has spilled over to the media, and the networks are playing with fire if they continue to insist that moderators do not fact check at the debates.

The media has been warned.

Voters are angry, and they are going to take out their rage on the press if they screw up these debates.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/media-rocked-poll-voters-demanding-moderators-fact-check-debates.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

The corporate media don't want to destroy Trash with fact-checking, because they need Trash un-destroyed and "apparently" in a race hyped by corporate media as "close", "competitive", to keep people following the media, aka, ad $$$.

[Spurminator]

Yeah, people were criticizing Jimmy Fallon for not "pressing Trump". I don't know why people think lare night talk shows should be Meet The Press.

A late night show is different from a news show or a debate. Fallon has no obligation to conduct a policy discussion with Trump, his show is strictly entertainment.

(Though I agree with criticisms that he's an ass-kisser.)

[CosmicCowboy]

Fallon is an equal opportunity ass kisser. He did it with Hillary too. I don't see why people are surprised. These late night entertainment shows would never get any guests if they knew they were going to be ambushed. It is expected that they will be softball appearances.

[florige]

A late night show is different from a news show or a debate. Fallon has no obligation to conduct a policy discussion with Trump, his show is strictly entertainment.

(Though I agree with criticisms that he's an ass-kisser.)


He has to be. Especially this early in his late night career. Letterman was able to grill Trump because Letterman had been on the air forever. He was already established. Matt Lauer oth had every right to get called out/

[johnsmith]

I can't fucking believe this is really happening.

No question Trump straight up calls her a bitch tonight right?

[johnsmith]

And then goes up in the polls?

[Axl Rose]

I can't fucking believe this is really happening.

No question Trump straight up calls her a bitch tonight right?
My money is on bringing up Epstein and all of bills sex crimes, followed by the intimidation and silencing of those same women by hilldog

[Axl Rose]

And yes he will go up in the polls. Bigly

[boutons_deux]

Even RNC Chair Reince Priebus Can’t Sell Trump As Qualified And Ready For Debate

With more than a hint of desperation, RNC Chair Reince Priebus tried to sell

Trump as ready for presidential debate because he has been through season finales of The Apprentice. :lol

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/rnc-chair-reince-priebus-sell-trump-qualified-ready-debate.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol Trash is leading the Repug establishment down his rabbit hole :lol

Trash is gonna tell Hillary "You're fired" ?

[boutons_deux]

Low bar for the bar-lowering Trash
"If Trump ‘doesn’t belch in her face’ he will win"

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/the-view-host-slams-the-debate-expectations-game-if-trump-doesnt-belch-in-her-face-he-will-win/

Low expectations for Trash. If he meets or slightly exceeds them, he will be seen as winner

High expectations for Hillary. If she even slightly fails to meet them, she will be seen as loser.

Total bogus set up by the corporate media.

They can't have Hillary win, take a bigger poll lead, and lose viewers. Corporate media has to fabricate, sustain a close race for ad $$$.

[Spurminator]

Bloomberg TV to fact check debate on-screenhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/09/bloomberg-to-fact-check-debate-on-screen-228670

So, if you have Bloomberg TV...

[CosmicCowboy]

Low bar for the bar-lowering Trash
"If Trump ‘doesn’t belch in her face’ he will win"

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/the-view-host-slams-the-debate-expectations-game-if-trump-doesnt-belch-in-her-face-he-will-win/

Low expectations for Trash. If he meets or slightly exceeds them, he will be seen as winner

High expectations for Hillary. If she even slightly fails to meet them, she will be seen as loser.

Total bogus set up by the corporate media.

They can't have Hillary win, take a bigger poll lead, and lose viewers. Corporate media has to fabricate, sustain a close race for ad $$$.



Damn boo.

Already making excuses before they even start...:lol

[boutons_deux]

Damn boo.

Already making excuses before they even start...:lol

nope, just describing how the media "grades Trash on a curve", but demands 4.0 from Hillary.

[CosmicCowboy]

Excuses. :lmao

[pgardn]

nope, just describing how the media "grades Trash on a curve", but demands 4.0 from Hillary.

Nah they just don't have time to consider all the lying Trump does. The usual tactic is just avoiding the question or rephrasing the question. (Hillary's tactic) Trump lies so blatantly its difficult to know when to stop the debate and just say this is not true. And he lies on very trivial stuff, it's a nightmare for the moderator. It's very odd.

Hillary will win with substance, but that's not what matters here.

[boutons_deux]

"lefty" MSNBC objectives for each :

http://images.dailykos.com/images/304345/story_image/Screen_Shot_2016-09-26_at_1.00.05_PM.png?1474920047

:lol

We’re wondering if one contestant can communicate her policy ideas more clearly and with more jokes, and

we’re wondering if the other contestant can chill out on the constant lying and bother to formulate any ideas at all.

In the spirit of MSNBC:


Clinton's tasks tonight:

1. Unify Quantum Mechanics & Relativity. 2. All answers in Shakespeare quotes. 3. Smile constantly but look real.



Trump's tasks tonight.

1. Show up. 2. Don't projectile vomit. 3. Breathe.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/26/1574403/-MSNBC-is-a-case-study-in-how-concocted-media-expectations-are-gaming-the-debate?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[SnakeBoy]

So what time is this event and what channel?

Fucking Boo sucks at making an event thread. Hope he is banned from ever making game threads up top.

[Reck]

So what time is this event and what channel?

Fucking Boo sucks at making an event thread. Hope he is banned from ever making game threads up top.

Seriously?

Pretty much every news channel has been covering pre debate shit all day.

cant miss it.

Amd what's with calling boutons boo? It's gay as fuck.

[SnakeBoy]

Seriously?

Pretty much every news channel has been covering pre debate shit all day.

cant miss it.

Amd what's with calling boutons boo? It's gay as fuck.

Just turned on the tv for the 1st time since Friday. Got it set to record now.

I think CC started that nickname. Pretty sure it's meant to sound gay as fuck.

[InRareForm]

trump is not prepared for speech via CNN

[Reck]

trump is not prepared for speech via CNN

What do you mean? His intro speech?

[CosmicCowboy]

What do you mean? His intro speech?

there are no intro statements. Hillary won the toss and gets the first question.

[Reck]

there are no intro statements.

Yes, they each get 15 minutes to make their pitch before the questions.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes, they each get 15 minutes to make their pitch before the questions.

do not.

[InRareForm]

i meant to say debate, my bad

[ducks]

Head of Commission on Presidential Debates: It’s not the moderator’s job to fact-check
https://www.yahoo.com/news/debates-not-moderator-job-to-fact-check-200917785.html

[CosmicCowboy]

the format is six 15 minute segments

question...candidate one two minutes

candidate two 2 minute response

then ten minute open debate on that topic

that gives either one plenty of time to fact check themselves

then the next segment

[InRareForm]

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[pgardn]

And yes he will go up in the polls. Bigly

Wont change minds IMO...

[InRareForm]

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[RD2191]

Trump is a moron.

[baseline bum]

First Reagan mention, take a shot.

[InRareForm]

LOL borrowed from his father

[RD2191]

First Reagan mention, take a shot.

:wakeup this ain't coffee

[DMX7]

Hillary's attacks are so petty!!!

[dabom]

Hillary already got this. :lol

[InRareForm]

trump is sniffling a lot

[dabom]

Trupm "more tax cuts for the rich" :lmao

[dabom]

trump is sniffling a lot

Dude did a line before going out...

[baseline bum]

Clinton should be blaming her husband here too

[dabom]

Lestor owning trump already. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Is this orange cuck providing any plans yet?

[boutons_deux]

Trupm "more tax cuts for the rich" :lmao

+$4B for his own family by abolishing estate taxes.

[FkLA]

:lol what's up with the Donald's sniffles?

[InRareForm]

if this was boxing, first round is hillary 10 trump 9

[TheGreatYacht]

Donald is already sniffling and getting thirsty. This stage is too big for him

[boutons_deux]

I heard the journalists being charged $200 for WiFi access, but it's down.

[RD2191]

How long before Trump fukin loses it? I give it 10 minutes.

[RD2191]

I heard the journalists being charged $200 for WiFi access, but it's down.

Is it Trump brand wifi by any chance?

[dabom]

Donald "No specifics" Trump. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Donald "No specifics" Trump. :lol

con man don't need no steenkin' specifics, only con job and snake oil

[FkLA]

The Don pulling up his sleeves :wow

[HarlemHeat37]

Man, you have to admire Trump and his campaign, tbh..

He's staying in his lane, appealing to his target demographic..it won't be enough to win, unfortunately, but have to show him love for staying true to his followers by dumbing shit down, etc:lol

Hillary is just so unlikable..she's such a snake and stereotype..looking at her makes me sick..

[baseline bum]

Donald I know you live in your own reality :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

"That's about all you've done":lmao back to back..

[benefactor]

Trump is already shook.

[baseline bum]

Yeah all the tax cuts Bush gave created so many jobs Donald :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Hillary needs to start interrupting this faggot back

[InRareForm]

trump is just using strong adjectives and hoping it sticks with his audience. there is no substance here

[dabom]

Hillary owning Trump. No doubt.

[hater]

:lmao what a massacre :lmao

Trump is obliterating her :lol

[hater]

I called this shit months ago. Gonna go bump ma thread :lmao

[Thebesteva]

Lmao trump shook as hell

[HarlemHeat37]

trump is just using strong adjectives and hoping it sticks with his audience. there is no substance here

That's his style and it has done well, tbh..he shouldn't change, his only chance is being the "non-politician" vs. Hillary the stereotype and snake..

[benefactor]

Jesus this is a fucking trainwreck:lol

[baseline bum]

Hillary is like 70. She has been fighting ISIS her entire adult life? :lmao

[InRareForm]

poor lester lol

[RD2191]

Trump melting down like a school girl.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hillary is obviously dominating with words, but her body language looks horrible..she looks weak and overpowered by Trump..

This is probably good for her in today's society, though, as everybody loves victims:lol

[dabom]

The wealthy are gonna create these jobs. :lol

[dabom]

Hillary is obviously dominating with words, but her body language looks horrible..she looks weak and overpowered by Trump..

This is probably good for her in today's society, though, as everybody loves victims:lol

Are you a body expert? Come on dude. :lmao

[ducks]

Lester needs some balls

[baseline bum]

Trumped up trickle down :lol

That's a great name

[HarlemHeat37]

Are you a body expert? Come on dude. :lmao

Trump's demographic loves this, that's the point..he's speaking over all her points, making jokes, taking shots, and she's standing there looking weak..to many of us, she looks civilized and is acting maturely, but Trump's demographic loves what he's doing, that's why he has gotten this far..he's staying in his lane..

It won't be enough for him to win, but still..

[hater]

:lmao Shillary started to studder :lmao

[vy65]

God damn she is so fucking shrill and unlikeable.

There's little to no substance being discussed in this trainwreck

[dabom]

Trump owning himself. :lmao

Can't even talk straight. :lmao

[hater]

Trump's demographic loves this, that's the point..he's speaking over all her points, making jokes, taking shots, and she's standing there looking weak..to many of us, she looks civilized and is acting maturely, but Trump's demographic loves what he's doing, that's why he has gotten this far..he's staying in his lane..

It won't be enough for him to win, but still..

A rock looks more civilized that Shitler. Shes a robot and will lose because of it

[hater]

God damn she is so fucking shrill and unlikeable.

There's little to no substance being discussed in this trainwreck

Trump running circles around her. Just wait till he calls her little Shillary :lmao

[dabom]

Trump's demographic loves this, that's the point..he's speaking over all her points, making jokes, taking shots, and she's standing there looking weak..to many of us, she looks civilized and is acting maturely, but Trump's demographic loves what he's doing, that's why he has gotten this far..he's staying in his lane..

It won't be enough for him to win, but still..

She's mature. There is a difference. Not "acting" to "look" civil. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Honestly, how can anybody pass on 4 years of entertainment via Trump?:lmao

You can't make this shit up, he's like a wrestling character..

[vy65]

What power does the executive have to "bring jobs back?"

[benefactor]

Honestly, how can anybody pass on 4 years of entertainment via Trump?:lmao

You can't make this shit up, he's like a wrestling character..
:lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

Damn, Trump with the 33,000 deleted emails truth bomb. :lol

[dabom]

Bringing up the emails. :lol

[Uriel]

Hillary has this image of being a corporate-friendly neoliberal. But if you listen to her policies, they’re SO PROGRESSIVE.

[hater]

"Youve been fighting ISIS all your adult life"

:wow :wow :wow


:lmao wow

[Thebesteva]

Honestly, how can anybody pass on 4 years of entertainment via Trump?:lmao

You can't make this shit up, he's like a wrestling character..


Well we saw what 8 years of a president who you just wanna grab a beer with did to this country...

[HarlemHeat37]

Man, this is like watching Vince McMahon:lmao

I understand not voting based on comedy or entertainment, but when the alternative is Hillary, might as well go with the comedic choice..

[TheGreatYacht]

It's over :lmao

Taxes talk got him shook :lmao

[baseline bum]

Honestly, how can anybody pass on 4 years of entertainment via Trump?:lmao

You can't make this shit up, he's like a wrestling character..

Because it would guarantee an almost complete Republican control of the nation.

[dabom]

Hillary going in. :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Well we saw what 8 years of a president who you just wanna grab a beer with did to this country...

I wouldn't want to grab a beer with Trump, he's a racist, narcissistic, stereotypical trust fund baby type..

However, he's extremely entertaining..this is the first debate I've ever looked forward to watching, just to see him speak:lol

[Spurminator]

This is all such bullshit. My low expectations were too high.

[Uriel]

Hillary: "Trump tried to profit off the housing crisis."
Trump: "That's called business."
Hillary: "Trump does not pay any income tax."
Trump: "That makes me smart."

[dabom]

Hillary: "Trump tried to profit off the housing crisis."
Trump: "That's called business."
Hillary: "Trump does not pay any income tax."
Trump: "That makes me smart."

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

She has his nuts in a vice over the tax returns and he looks stupid trying cover for it.

[vy65]

The economy is doing bad but I made $694 million and I didn't think I could make that kinda cash 15 years ago

[TheGreatYacht]

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[hater]

This is all such bullshit. My low expectations were too high.

Same here. I thought Hillary had at least a fighting chance

[StrengthAndHonor]

Man, this is like watching Vince McMahon:lmao

I understand not voting based on comedy or entertainment, but when the alternative is Hillary, might as well go with the comedic choice..
I can't stand her lying face.

[pgardn]

God damn she is so fucking shrill and unlikeable.

There's little to no substance being discussed in this trainwreck

She is.

But he is such a Fckn liar. It's astounding.
How many times is he gonna say' "believe me"

[RD2191]

Hillary going in. :wow

[boutons_deux]

Damn, Trump with the 33,000 deleted emails truth bomb. :lol

desperation

will he bring up Benghazi?

[RD2191]

Trump admitting he stiffed some poor guy because he didn't do a good job. :lmao

[benefactor]

Damn...Hillary hitting him with some body shots tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

I want to change the channel every time Trump is on the verge of answering a serious question:lol

He needs to stick to the talking points in his game plan + attacking her..Hillary just bodied him, unfortunately..