Montreal bans Pit Bulls

[InRareForm]

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/no-more-new-pit-bulls-montreal-restricts-the-dog-breed-1.3089876

[benefactor]

The original draft of the bylaw named four breeds collectively known as pit bulls, but the amendment passed on Tuesday creates special regulations for three breeds: American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, and the Staffordshire terrier, along with crossbreeds of those dogs or share their physical characteristics.
:lol

So I guess they can just pick and choose which dogs they want to take from people. Fucking stupid.

[benefactor]

These are boxer/lab mixes. Guess you are just fucked if you own one.

http://www.dogbreedplus.com/dog_breeds/images/boxador.jpg

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images28/BoxadorBoxerLabradorRetrieverHybridDogsMixBreedDog PuppyNible4MonthsOld3.jpg

[Avante]

Great idea as far as pit bulls go.


Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed

The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 30-year old problem.1 Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/07/bay-county-animal-hospital-worker.html) and disfiguring (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/01/georgia-pit-bull-owner-is-convicted.html) injuries.
The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many appellate courts (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/legislating-dangerous-dogs-appellate-court-decisions.php) agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style.2 According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.3
Purveyors of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and their family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2015.php), about one citizen every 17 days. Of these deaths, 51% involved a family member and a household pit bull.4 Notably, in the first 8 months of 2011 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php), nearly half of those killed by a pit bull was its owner. One victim was an "avid supporter" of Bad Rap, a recipient of Michael Vick's dogs.

I'm not afraid of dogs generally, but would be very concerned if I looked across the street and saw a pit bull eyeing me. And seeing a pit roaming the streets does get your attention unlike any other dog.



2015 dog bite fatality statistics

34 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2015. Despite being regulated in Military Housing (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/legislating-dangerous-dogs-military-bases.php) areas and over 700 U.S. cities (https://www.scribd.com/doc/56495216/Estimated-U-S-Cities-Counties-States-and-Military-Facilities-with-Breed-Specific-Pit-Bull-Laws), pit bulls contributed to 82% (28) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.6% of the total U.S. dog population.2

[SpursforSix]

Great idea as far as pit bulls go.


Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed

The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 30-year old problem.1 Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/07/bay-county-animal-hospital-worker.html) and disfiguring (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/01/georgia-pit-bull-owner-is-convicted.html) injuries.
The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many appellate courts (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/legislating-dangerous-dogs-appellate-court-decisions.php) agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style.2 According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.3
Purveyors of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and their family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2015.php), about one citizen every 17 days. Of these deaths, 51% involved a family member and a household pit bull.4 Notably, in the first 8 months of 2011 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php), nearly half of those killed by a pit bull was its owner. One victim was an "avid supporter" of Bad Rap, a recipient of Michael Vick's dogs.

I'm not afraid of dogs generally, but would be very concerned if I looked across the street and saw a pit bull eyeing me. And seeing a pit roaming the streets does get your attention unlike any other dog.

I've thought quite a bit about what I would do if a dog attacked me. I think most people would freak out and not think through the correct technique. It's far different if a person attacks another person. Being human, we inherently understand how the body works and how an attacker would...attack. However, a dog...not many of us have had any practice fighting a dog. But the first step would be to realize that a dog is basically just a person coming at you on his hands and feet. Any basic level martial arts student should be able to neutralize an attacking dog.

The problem with the Pit Bull is that the margin for error is very small. If you were off target on trying to execute a spin kick on a Collie, even a glancing blow would be enough to stun the dog and give you an advantage. With a Pit Bull,anything less than a perfectly landed blow...then he has the advantage.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol

So I guess they can just pick and choose which dogs they want to take from people. Fucking stupid.

This is one of the biggest controversies surrounding this law, tbh..the outrage has been pretty severe..

Ontario has a strong anti-pitbull stigma, but Quebec is even worse..one of my good friends has a fucking boxer mix with no pitbull in him(he kind of looks like one, though), and she was approached by Quebec officers while she was just walking in Montreal:lol

[Avante]

I've thought quite a bit about what I would do if a dog attacked me. I think most people would freak out and not think through the correct technique. It's far different if a person attacks another person. Being human, we inherently understand how the body works and how an attacker would...attack. However, a dog...not many of us have had any practice fighting a dog. But the first step would be to realize that a dog is basically just a person coming at you on his hands and feet. Any basic level martial arts student should be able to neutralize an attacking dog.

The problem with the Pit Bull is that the margin for error is very small. If you were off target on trying to execute a spin kick on a Collie, even a glancing blow would be enough to stun the dog and give you an advantage. With a Pit Bull,anything less than a perfectly landed blow...then he has the advantage.

I carry a gravity knife (ya just flick it open) with a six inch blade. And being a big strong guy (just being factual) I don't give a dog much of a chance to be honest. No way I;m trying to wrestle here, I'd kick and swing/stab with my blade, and something is going to land.

What happens is most people can't match the viciousness a dog brings, I don't have that problem. We are usually bigger and stronger.

[SpursforSix]

I carry a gravity knife (ya just flick it open) with a six inch blade. And being a big strong guy (just being factual) I don't give a dog much of a chance to be honest. No way I;m trying to wrestle here, I'd kick and swing/stap with my blade, and something is going to land.

I don't think you could rely on the knife. Dogs are extremely adept at targeting something with their mouths. If they see the knife, that's exactly what they'll go after. And even if you connect, it would take a few seconds for them to feel the pain and back off. A Pit might not back off anyway. If you're strong, taking a dog to the ground might be your best way. While some dogs have powerful jaws and neck muscles, most don't have the leg strength to grapple with a human. And certainly no ability to grip something and hold with their paws.

If it did develop into a ground game, I'd be pretty comfortable knowing that I could probably get the dogs back and either subdue him or break his neck.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not anti-pitbull or anything, but I'm not as supportive as I once was, tbh..

My girlfriend began working at the SPCA last year, she makes the decisions on euthanasia(along with doing it herself), and I've heard some serious horror stories involving the breed, tbh..obviously it's mostly owner-related and the way they were raised, but actually seeing the damage up close and dealing with the results of a poorly raised pitty gives you a different perspective..

Of course the same criteria could be applied to other breeds(shitty owners), but this breed tends to attract some of the trashiest in our society, sadly(although I know plenty o pitts with great owners)..

[SpursforSix]

True story...

A guy is in the park making love to a child when a Pit Bull starts running at them. The guy starts to run away. Another guy in a tree yells at the first guy and says, "man, you can't out run a pit bull". The first guy yells back, "I don't have to. I just need to outrun a child".

[clambake]

True story...

A guy is in the park making love to a child when a Pit Bull starts running at them. The guy starts to run away. Another guy in a tree yells at the first guy and says, "man, you can't out run a pit bull". The first guy yells back, "I don't have to. I just need to outrun a child".

ha

[SpursforSix]

ha

There's nothing funny about it. You shoot sick pedos in the head.

[Avante]

I don't think you could rely on the knife. Dogs are extremely adept at targeting something with their mouths. If they see the knife, that's exactly what they'll go after. And even if you connect, it would take a few seconds for them to feel the pain and back off. A Pit might not back off anyway. If you're strong, taking a dog to the ground might be your best way. While some dogs have powerful jaws and neck muscles, most don't have the leg strength to grapple with a human. And certainly no ability to grip something and hold with their paws.

If it did develop into a ground game, I'd be pretty comfortable knowing that I could probably get the dogs back and either subdue him or break his neck.

Twice in my life (both in the insurance biz) I've been attack by dogs (just muts) both times all it took was a strong kick and there they went welping. Yes, those I was calling on didn't appreciate that but they understood.

You hurt a dog and give them some space to run I think most will.

[SpursforSix]

Twice in my life (both in the insurance niz) I;ve been attack by dogs (just muts) both times all it took was a strong kick and there they went welping. Yes, those I was calling on didn't appreciate that but they understood.

You hurt a dog and give them some space to run I think most will.

I've never been attacked by a dog. But I've practiced what I would do several times. I'll change my approach based on the breed. With most dogs, I'd drop to the ground to get on their level and then get them into a full nelson. My preference is to subdue the animal with minimal damage done.

[Avante]

I've never been attacked by a dog. But I've practiced what I would do several times. I'll change my approach based on the breed. With most dogs, I'd drop to the ground to get on their level and then get them into a full nelson. My preference is to subdue the animal with minimal damage done.

Hmmmm?

wife...what are you doing?
SFS...practicing my moves if attack by a collie. Then I'll be doing my workout for a German Shepherd.
wife....I see, how about a Doberman?
SFS...I go into a Kung Fu stance and.....
wife....ok, ok, have fun dear.:rolleyes

[lefty]

lol one of my friends has 2 pitbulls


Gonna troll him BRB

[SpursforSix]

Hmmmm?

wife...what are you doing?
SFS...practicing my moves if attack by a collie. Then I'll be doing my workout for a German Shepherd.
wife....I see, how about a Doberman?
SFS...I go into a Kung Fu stance and.....
wife....ok, ok, have fun dear.:rolleyes

Sure, it looks and sounds ridiculous until...

SFS and wife on a walk
wife : ahhhh...that dog is about to attack us
SFS : looks like a Pit Weimaraner mix
wife : what? do something!!!
SFS : aplogize
wife : what?
SFS : for making fun of my training.
wife : OK...SORRY!!! now do..
SFS : (executes Superman Punch into jumping dog)
SFS : quick, get me a tourniquet and thermometer stat. I have a dog to save
wife : honey you're the best

[DJR210]

Faggoty ordinance in a faggoty country, it's to be expected.

Chihuahuas are far more aggressive, I've been attacked by the little annoying pricks far more than any other animal.

[Avante]

Sure, it looks and sounds ridiculous until...

SFS and wife on a walk
wife : ahhhh...that dog is about to attack us
SFS : looks like a Pit Weimaraner mix
wife : what? do something!!!
SFS : aplogize
wife : what?
SFS : for making fun of my training.
wife : OK...SORRY!!! now do..
SFS : (executes Superman Punch into jumping dog)
SFS : quick, get me a tourniquet and thermometer stat. I have a dog to save
wife : honey you're the best

Hmmmm?

wife....what a great idea, who would have thought of training to fight dogs?
SFS...I know.
wife...maybe you should open up a dog fighters training camp.
SFS...I might just do that.
wife....have you ever been attack by a dog?
SFS...no, not yet.
wife...so how do you know what will and won't work?
SFS....hmmmm? Good point.
wife....ya might wanna start a few fights with dogs, just to get the feel for it.
SFS....great idea. I think I'll go find as dog to kick.
wife....ya know I love you, right? But, I was just kidding, ok?
SFS:depressed

[SpursforSix]

Hmmmm?

wife....what a great idea, who would have thought of training to fight dogs?
SFS...I know.
wife...maybe you should open up a dog fighters training camp.
SFS...I might just do that.
wife....have you ever been attack by a dog?
SFS...no, not yet.
wife...so how do you know what will and won't work?
SFS....hmmmm? Good point.
wife....ya might wanna start a few fights with dogs, just to get the feel for it.
SFS....great idea. I think I'll go find as dog to kick.
wife....ya know I love you, right? But, I was just kidding, ok?
SFS:depressed

wife....what a great idea, who would have thought of training to fight dogs?
SFS...I know.
wife...maybe you should open up a dog fighters training camp.
SFS...I might just do that.
wife....have you ever been attack by a dog?
SFS...no, not yet.
wife...so how do you know what will and won't work?
SFS....I've developed a computer simulation with complex algorithms that can accurately predict how any breed or mix of breeds will attack based on any given set of circumstances.
wife...you're the best

[leemajors]

I carry a gravity knife (ya just flick it open) with a six inch blade. And being a big strong guy (just being factual) I don't give a dog much of a chance to be honest. No way I;m trying to wrestle here, I'd kick and swing/stab with my blade, and something is going to land.

What happens is most people can't match the viciousness a dog brings, I don't have that problem. We are usually bigger and stronger.

Good luck unlocking that pit jaw you dumb jamoke

[spurraider21]

my gf has a lab/pitbull, but luckily his paperwork just says "lab mix" so if LA passes a local ordinance like this, they could probably keep him, unless they have that vague "similar characteristics" clause.

her dog is a total sweetheart tbh, acts like a big baby :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm not anti-pitbull or anything, but I'm not as supportive as I once was, tbh..

My girlfriend began working at the SPCA last year, she makes the decisions on euthanasia(along with doing it herself), and I've heard some serious horror stories involving the breed, tbh..obviously it's mostly owner-related and the way they were raised, but actually seeing the damage up close and dealing with the results of a poorly raised pitty gives you a different perspective..

Of course the same criteria could be applied to other breeds(shitty owners), but this breed tends to attract some of the trashiest in our society, sadly(although I know plenty o pitts with great owners)..
i agree that its on the owners. but a poorly trained pitbull could be lethal. a poorly trained golden retriever wouldn't. the risk and potential carnage with a pit is significantly higher, even if the fault is on the owner...

[SnakeBoy]

I carry a gravity knife (ya just flick it open) with a six inch blade. And being a big strong guy (just being factual) I don't give a dog much of a chance to be honest. No way I;m trying to wrestle here, I'd kick and swing/stab with my blade, and something is going to land.


Against a pit with bad intentions you would just end up falling on your ass and then you'd be at his mercy. Better technique for you would be to offer up your belly to the pit, then once he has locked on to that chunk of blubber you could use the knife on him.

[Avante]

Good luck unlocking that pit jaw you dumb jamoke

Well with six inchs of steel stuck in his head that might do it, ya reckon ya dumb fuck?

[Avante]

Against a pit with bad intentions you would just end up falling on your ass and then you'd be at his mercy. Better technique for you would be to offer up your belly to the pit, then once he has locked on to that chunk of blubber you could use the knife on him.

Dumb as a rock aren't ya slick? A big strong man with a big knife vs a dog a third his size. Use your head stupid.

[DJR210]

i agree that its on the owners. but a poorly trained pitbull could be lethal. a poorly trained golden retriever wouldn't. the risk and potential carnage with a pit is significantly higher, even if the fault is on the owner...

My pit would escort burglars to the valuables before attacking them, he loves everybody to the point where it's a serious concern for our safety.

[DJR210]

Well with six inchs of steel stuck in his head that might do it, ya reckon ya dumb fuck?

:lol I actually agree, no way a dog should kill a grown man with a knife.. but better get it done quickly because they will shred the fuck out of you quick, and you'll end up bleeding to death even if you do merk the dog

[spurraider21]

My pit would escort burglars to the valuables before attacking them, he loves everybody to the point where it's a serious concern for our safety.
if you aren't home, maybe. pitts are ridiculously protective of owners... before he got to know me my gf's pit used to hate me every time i approached her, but if she wasn't in the room he'd want to play, etc

[Avante]

:lol I actually agree, no way a dog should kill a grown man with a knife.. but better get it done quickly because they will shred the fuck out of you quick, and you'll end up bleeding to death even if you do merk the dog

A pit is going to grab onto an arm or a leg and hold on, you would have plenty of time to stab stab stab.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQm9UdLQbI

[DJR210]

if you aren't home, maybe. pitts are ridiculously protective of owners... before he got to know me my gf's pit used to hate me every time i approached her, but if she wasn't in the room he'd want to play, etc

Yeah, my pit knows I am his master, but when I beat up my sons horse playing w/ them that fool bites me to protect them :lol


A pit is going to grab onto an arm or a leg and hold on, you would have plenty of time to stab stab stab.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQm9UdLQbI

Yeah, he will bite and hold on but when you tug away and he starts shaking his head violently, your arm or whatever will be shredded wide open.. Better hope he doesn't get an artery

[lefty]

:cry pitbulls are the victims
:cry discriminastion
:cry that woofcist

[TDMVPDPOY]

does the dog owner get any charges against them?

down here they put the dog down, and the owner of the dog gets $$ fine or jail terrm, someshit like that...

hence the fkn dogs down here who own pitbulls are usually drug dealers

[InRareForm]

Yes because joe Rogan knows everything

[HarlemHeat37]

i agree that its on the owners. but a poorly trained pitbull could be lethal. a poorly trained golden retriever wouldn't. the risk and potential carnage with a pit is significantly higher, even if the fault is on the owner...

Yep..like I said, I've heard some horror stories since my girl began working there..

Recently, a pit that mauled a woman(it was a big story on the local news here) was brought into her work a few hours after the attack occurred..it was just her and another girl that had to handle him, since he has to be removed from his run..2 120-pound women vs. a crazy dog that just nearly killed somebody:lol..every time she would look at him through the cage, he would jump at the bars and growl..they needed a rabies pole + distraction + tricking him just to get him out and get a muzzle on him..

Obviously, he didn't pass his temperament test and had to be euthanized..I've heard at least 3 of those same stories in the past 6 months, too..

[Avante]

Yeah, my pit knows I am his master, but when I beat up my sons horse playing w/ them that fool bites me to protect them :lol



Yeah, he will bite and hold on but when you tug away and he starts shaking his head violently, your arm or whatever will be shredded wide open.. Better hope he doesn't get an artery

You have a kinife in your free hand, how many stabs can any dog take before there they lay dead?

[SpursforSix]

You have a kinife in your free hand, how many stabs can any dog take before there they lay dead?

Probably more than the amount of neck bits that a human can take.

[Avante]

Probably more than the amount of neck bits that a human can take.

I have a hard time imagining a dog winning vs a 270 pound athletic strong man who can be vicious himself.


Barbarian vs a pit, I got the Barbarian.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIFrle4OQ8

Jimmy Hart vs a pit, I got the pit.

[SpursforSix]

I have a hard time imagining a dog winning vs a 270 pound athletic strong man who can be vicious himself.



That's exactly why I think the knife is a bad choice. You're tying up one of your hands when you're probably better off grappling with the dog.

[baseline bum]

What happens is most people can't match the viciousness a dog brings, I don't have that problem

Those poor 14 year old filipanas

[DJR210]

You have a kinife in your free hand, how many stabs can any dog take before there they lay dead?

:lol, so you walk around with a knife out, blade opened just ready for potential dog attacks?

Come on guy, if you were out walking and a loose pit saw your gay pedo ass and charged you, that dog will be there in a flash biting and ripping your ass while you fumble around in a mixture of trying to pull your knife and fight off the dog

[DJR210]

Those poor 14 year old filipanas

:lmao tbh

"The ferociousness of a rabid pit on that preteen gook pussy"- Pvt. Avante

[baseline bum]

I had a pit jump a fence and try to come at me one time when I was a teen walking through an alley to go play basketball at the park. I hit him with the ball and then charged him full speed and he turned around and ran off.

[Avante]

That's exactly why I think the knife is a bad choice. You're tying up one of your hands when you're probably better off grappling with the dog.

Couldn't be more wrong if ya tried. A big man with a six inch steel blade would be far more deadly than a wrestler.

[Avante]

Those poor 14 year old filipanas

The minute you walk in the bar here they come running....BUY ME DRINK~~~~~~ Nobody sits all alone, ok stupid?

[Avante]

:lol, so you walk around with a knife out, blade opened just ready for potential dog attacks?

Come on guy, if you were out walking and a loose pit saw your gay pedo ass and charged you, that dog will be there in a flash biting and ripping your ass while you fumble around in a mixture of trying to pull your knife and fight off the dog

Did ya miss the part about I carry a gravity knife? Ya just..flick..it open, ok stupid? If I can't get that blade out in a split second then I need to be chewed up. I carry the knife for protection, ok? I know how to use it and pity a poor dog attacking me.

Fumble around, hahahaha~~~~~~~~

Believe it or not, if I had time to get a read on the pit, if a small one I might just kick it's ass instead of using my knife, I love dogs (always had a couple)

[Avante]

These guys vs a dog?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3xQLnq7nzM


A pit would destroy the little cat in the hat.

[baseline bum]

The minute you walk in the bar here they come running....BUY ME DRINK~~~~~~ Nobody sits all alone, ok stupid?

So you spike their juice box and then take them upstairs?

[JMarkJohns]

Grew up around pit bulls my entire life. Never been bit. We are talking 6-10 dogs with multiple owners. Some pure (most, actually), others mixed.

Want to know what dogs I have been bit by?

German Shepherd
Chow
Collie
Spaniel

All regarded as family friendly.

People like Avante are full of shit because they don't want to take responsibility for themselves, which is why he's a fat fuck 260+ with a history of overseas sex trade participation.

[Avante]

So you spike their juice box and then take them upstairs?

Stupid, what about....THEY COME RUNNING TO YOU, THEY MAKE THEIR LIVING HUSTLING DRINKS AND FUCKING..don't you get? Stupid, when they ask you...."we go fucky sucky"...if you tell them..."no"...what does your dumb ass thinks happens?

[HI-FI]

:cry pitbulls are the victims
:cry discriminastion
:cry that woofcist
:lol

[Avante]

Grew up around pit bulls my entire life. Never been bit. We are talking 6-10 dogs with multiple owners. Some pure (most, actually), others mixed.

Want to know what dogs I have been bit by?

German Shepherd
Chow
Collie
Spaniel

All regarded as family friendly.

People like Avante are full of shit because they don't want to take responsibility for themselves, which is why he's a fat fuck 260+ with a history of overseas sex trade participation.

Nothing to take responsibity for stupid, and nothing fat on me so wrong as usual.

And, do I really have to post those WELL KNOWN ststs proving the pit bull being by far the most dangerous/vicious dog?


How about some reality ya dumb fuck.


Top 10 Most Dangerous Dog Breeds Based On Their Fatalities

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Some dog breeds have more potential to cause injuries to a victim than other breeds and this is exactly why we call them “dangerous”. Based on the number of accidents caused by different dog breeds in US and Canada, I have compiled the list of top 10 most dangerous dog breeds.
According to the research from Animal people (http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/) in US and Canada – right from the period September 1882 to 31 December 2012 — Pitbulls and Rottweilers have topped the dangerous dog breeds list because they are supposed to be causing more dog fatalities and injuries.
Check out the table below for detailed statistics


Breed

Bodily harm

Child Victims

Adult Victims

Deaths

Maiming

% of dog population



Pit bull

2235

911

806

233

1268

4.4



Rottweiler

495

278

131

81

277

2.2



Husky

71

44

5

24

20

0.05



German shepherd

96

60

28

14

59

2.3



Chow

55

36

16

7

37

0.01%




No 1: Pitbulls

If you are someone, who is familiar with almost all the dog breeds, then I am sure, seeing a “Pitbull” in the list of “top 10 most dangerous dogs” must be a big surprise. When compared to other dog breeds, death rates caused by Pitpulls are far higher. Due to its aggressive nature, some state governments have even banned breeding of Pitbulls.


Want more stats proving you are 100% WRONG?



The Breeds Most Likely to Kill


As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls. In recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:
"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998 (http://www.spurstalk.com/images/pdf/breeds-causing-DBRFs.pdf). JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)


Want more?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBbD02hb7MM


Educate yourself son, ok?


http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php

[baseline bum]

What's more dangerous to a 14 year-old: a pit bull or Avante on shore leave?

[DMC]

I don't think you could rely on the knife. Dogs are extremely adept at targeting something with their mouths..
So is Avante

[DMC]

People want pit bulls for the very reason they are being banned; because they are overpowered killing machines. "No they are very friendly killing machines". When you see someone with a pit bull with a fucking logging chain on it's neck, walking it like they can control it, you have to consider which animal is more intelligent, the dog or the owner. Get two pit bulls together and you got something, because they feed off each other's rage and aggression.

Useless animals for pets, serve no purpose other than being intimidating. "you don't understand dogs"... I don't need to. Never heard of a couple labs killing a kid, has probably happened but pretty rare. I've heard of plenty pit bull attacks.

[DMC]

Grew up around pit bulls my entire life. Never been bit. We are talking 6-10 dogs with multiple owners. Some pure (most, actually), others mixed.

Want to know what dogs I have been bit by?

German Shepherd
Chow
Collie
Spaniel

All regarded as family friendly.

People like Avante are full of shit because they don't want to take responsibility for themselves, which is why he's a fat fuck 260+ with a history of overseas sex trade participation.
lol You don't get bit by a pit bull, you get mauled.

[Avante]

What's more dangerous to a 14 year-old: a pit bull or Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) on shore leave?

Are you just retarded? Retard do you really think ALL those hookers and bars had been there all those years because of Avante?

Retard, ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL....us sailors had pussy over there, ok retard? And, if you would have turned her down she would have got pissed off?

No 14 year olds hustling drinks in any bar I was ever in, ok retard?

Do you people really not get this at all? We were put in a different world over there, ok? Hell, where I came from you had to be 21 to be in a bar so who in the fuck is thinking of kids being in bars, well? And, don't you dummies know the girls were there to hustle drinks? Do you dumb fucks really believe bars hired little kids to hustle drinks with the drinking age at 18?

How many 100% idiots do we have here?

[Avante]

Any parent who has kids and pit bulls need their ass kicked, talk about fucking stupidity, there it is.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Chows are motherfuckers

[Avante]

The thing about a pit bull is they are going to grab and hold, that would give a guy with a knife/weapon plenty of time/distance to stab/bang away.

[Chucho]

What's more dangerous to a 14 year-old: a pit bull or Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) on shore leave?

:lol Even though your Politics make you slightly abhorrent, this was the winner in this thread.

[benefactor]

Avante with the Google bads. Dogbite.org has been debunked here repeatedly.

[Avante]

:lol Even though your Politics make you slightly abhorrent, this was the winner in this thread.

You really are a 100% moron, aren't ya amigo?

[Avante]

Avante with the Google bads. Dogbite.org has been debunked here repeatedly.

Dude, you have any idea just how many places talk about the viciousness that is the pit bull? Ya want me to post article after article talking about the dangerous pit bull....well?

One of a ton.


http://www.city-journal.org/html/scared-pit-bulls-you%E2%80%99d-better-be-11995.html


Dude, you really don't have any clue do ya?

Lets say the pit was no different from any other dog except that incrediable jaw strength, wouldn't the fact if one of these dogs does bite you it can be far worst than just a normal dog bite, be enought to not want them around? An animal in your home that really could kill you, that isn't scarey?

A few days ago the water company came out to turn the water off on a neighbor, the shut off is on my property right by the fence. I thought both my dogs wre in the house, well I was wrong, my little mut wasn't, yep, Joey went after these guys, but all it took was..JOEY!!!!!!! anf he back offed. Now what I'd owned a pit bull? And if Joey would have grabbed a pant leg, it wouldn't have ne much to yank himoff, what if a pit had a pant leg?

[benefactor]

Don't bother. I've been down this road before and I'm sure as hell not doing it with a dumbass that fails at Google. I stick with statements from the educated people at organizations like the ATTS, CDC and AVMA that state that pitbulls are no more dangerous to humans than any other dog.

[Avante]

Don't bother. I've been down this road before and I'm sure as hell not doing it with a dumbass that fails at Google. I stick with statements from the educated people at organizations like the ATTS, CDC and AVMA that state that pitbulls are no more dangerous to humans than any other dog.

So all those stats are wrong?

Only about a 1000 similiar.....


POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DOG BREEDS

This is a list of dog breeds that have a history of being potentially dangerous to people, especially children. Daxton’s Friends for Canine Education and Awareness understands that any dog has the ability to bite or inflict serious harm to humans. This list consists of several dog breeds that have a higher than average number of recorded human fatalities. Please use extreme caution if you choose to bring one of these breeds into your home. Rental communities and homeowners insurance may restrict many of the dog breeds on this list due to the likelihood of a serious incident.
Pit Bulls, Mastiff, and Rottweiler lead in fatalities and are listed first. The rest of the breeds are listed in alphabetical order:
Pit Bull Terrier Family


So all of that is wrong, right?. I challenge you to find anything about dangerous/vicious dogs where the pit bull doesn't top the list.......come on.

[Avante]

I own two dogs, one is bigger than most pits, I have no doubts I could kick my big dog and it would ease off and run. The little one would be so easy to just toss 10 feet.

What pit bull owner could be that confident in being able to handle a bad dog situation?

[benefactor]

Yawn

[spurraider21]

the problem with pitbulls is when people train them to be vicious... and then they abandon them. and then some unwitting family adopts one from a shelter thats been predisposed to violence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZVChD-I5_s

on the flipside, my gf got her pitt when he was only a few months old, and he's completely harmless

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ shelter dogs go through thorough testing, tbh..in our city shelter, if they show even the slightest negative reaction, they get euthanized(partly due to overcrowding, too)..

It's actually unfair, tbh, as many good dogs can be reactionary in stressed settings(my dog has some social issues, for example)..

[Avante]

Yawn

Facts do tend to do that to those who refuse to deal in the real world.

Oh hell yes, own an animal that can rip ya to shreds if it wants to, talk about stupid, there it is. ESPECIALLY...if ya have kids.

[Blake]

Facts do tend to do that to those who refuse to deal in the real world.

Oh hell yes, own an animal that can rip ya to shreds if it wants to, talk about stupid, there it is. ESPECIALLY...if ya have kids.

What's your stance on German shepherds

[JMarkJohns]

lol You don't get bit by a pit bull, you get mauled.

Lol, you missed my point.

[TheSanityAnnex]

the problem with pitbulls is when people train them to be vicious... and then they abandon them. and then some unwitting family adopts one from a shelter thats been predisposed to violence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZVChD-I5_s

on the flipside, my gf got her pitt when he was only a few months old, and he's completely harmless

I suggest you watch the documentary on the rehabilitation of Mike Vick's fighting dogs. If I remember correctly something like 29 out of 31 were fully rehabilitated, leaving only 2 that could not be adopted. Some even became certified therapy dogs.

http://www.championsdocumentary.com/the-dogs/

I love me some pits. Gotten all of mine through a rescue that specializes in bully breeds. Tons of temperament testing done to each dog before they'll pull them out of a shelter and offer out for adoption. Pits are some of the highest ranking dogs from the ATTS temperament testing.

Here are some pics of mine all grown up now
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/pack4_zpsnsswhzwr.jpg
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/pack2_zpspkeaawf4.jpg

Got a kitten a few weeks ago and wasn't sure how the dogs would be since they'd never seen one before.
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/pack_zpsusjc5onb.jpg
She's already part of the pack

[DJR210]

:lol @ the cat chillin w/ two vicious monsters

[DMC]

Lol, you missed my point.
Your anecdote

[DMC]

Lol "Pits are friendly...thats obviously why I wanted one"

Reminds me of the pot crowd talking about all the uses of pot but they just want to get high.

[benefactor]

Facts do tend to do that to those who refuse to deal in the real world.

Oh hell yes, own an animal that can rip ya to shreds if it wants to, talk about stupid, there it is. ESPECIALLY...if ya have kids.


Yawn

[I. Hustle]

Dude, you have any idea just how many places talk about the viciousness that is the pit bull? Ya want me to post article after article talking about the dangerous pit bull....well?

One of a ton.


http://www.city-journal.org/html/scared-pit-bulls-you%E2%80%99d-better-be-11995.html


Dude, you really don't have any clue do ya?

Lets say the pit was no different from any other dog except that incrediable jaw strength, wouldn't the fact if one of these dogs does bite you it can be far worst than just a normal dog bite, be enought to not want them around? An animal in your home that really could kill you, that isn't scarey?

A few days ago the water company came out to turn the water off on a neighbor, the shut off is on my property right by the fence. I thought both my dogs wre in the house, well I was wrong, my little mut wasn't, yep, Joey went after these guys, but all it took was..JOEY!!!!!!! anf he back offed. Now what I'd owned a pit bull? And if Joey would have grabbed a pant leg, it wouldn't have ne much to yank himoff, what if a pit had a pant leg?

I back offed this post because it was tp.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lol "Pits are friendly...thats obviously why I wanted one"

Reminds me of the pot crowd talking about all the uses of pot but they just want to get high.

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

browse through the list

[clambake]

Dude, you have any idea just how many places talk about the viciousness that is the pit bull? Ya want me to post article after article talking about the dangerous pit bull....well?

One of a ton.


http://www.city-journal.org/html/scared-pit-bulls-you%E2%80%99d-better-be-11995.html


Dude, yank himoff

[Avante]

This from a site about the 10 most dangerous dog breeds.

Guess who is number 1?

https://assets.hubstatic.com/x/s.gif




1) Pit Bulls
Talk about ferocious dogs and pit bulls are one of the top breeds that come to mind. Of course, much hype has been created by the media and Hollywood about their ferociousness The pit bulls have their origins in the United States and weigh between 30-55 lbs.`This breed is the result of interbreeding between a breed of bulldogs and terriers. The result is a pit bull terrier that has the athleticism and strength of the bulldog and gameness of a terrier. Though the locking of their jaws has been proven a myth, it still has one of the most ferocious bites. Most times these dogs were bred for dog fighting. Though these dogs are bred as normal pets nowadays, they are still a breed you need to watch out for.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've always had dogs, I love dogs and cats. I never owned a dog where if they got out on the street I feared for the public/other dogs. What pit bull owner can say that?

Old guy walking his dogs and here comes a pit bull. That's fear. Kid out with his poddle and there sits a lost pit bull, that's fear.

Anyone here who doesn't get the realities of the pit bull situation are refusing to deal with how it really is.


This says it all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg8Sw319J60


You need one of these killers ya keep it in a cage.

Come on people, do we really need this shit...........................WHY???????????????

You own a pit bull, because.....................? All dogs will love you if treated right, so why own a pit bull?

Oh hell yes, ya own a dog KNOWN to be aggressive so let's just parade them around, fucking idiots.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJsVxaPlYc


There's a young (early 20's) Mexican guy who walks his pit around here, yep, his pants hanging half way off his ass, stupid ass tats everywhere, that funky walk, shades, real obvious what's going on there.


Pit bulls are like Islam, all dogs will bite and all religions have violence just not on that level.

[Avante]

6-2 275pounds of mean with a....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GosT33WDT74

...vs a dog?

[benefactor]

Yawn

[DJR210]

The real problem..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXlqY7LaiYg

Need to ban these mf's

[DJR210]

As you can see the pit bull is no match for the chihuahuas ferocity..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjba0DeTUpo

[DJR210]

Even as a pup, this chihuahua is already showing alarming signs of it's aggressive nature


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7_N0Aozqc

[pgardn]

6-2 275pounds of mean with a....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GosT33WDT74

...vs a dog?

Yep the videos with the dog control fellas... they all had gravity knives.
~~~sheesh~~~~ yep, yep

[pgardn]

6-2 275pounds of mean with a....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GosT33WDT74

...vs a dog?

You have no clue as to the purpose of that knife either. You think stealth is important when you get mauled by a pit bull? Do you understand the gravity part?

Make no mistake about it, a pit bull would maul that slow, uncoordinated, fatass if the animal was intent on doing so. You would be more likely to slash yourself with that knife which might leave you unconscious and bleeding to death very early into a piece by piece butchering.

[DMC]

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

browse through the list
What's the point? People don't pick that breed because of their calm demeanor. They do so for the same reason people drive huge 4x4s or duallys and never get off road or haul anything. They like how they look and their rep. If you'd feel like a faggot walking a chihuahua then you'd feel more macho walking a pit bull.

It's not even the dog's fault. The type of thug mentality drawn toward these things is enough to paint them all with a broad brush and be done with it. It's the same reason straight men don't wear rainbow colored items... oddly you can admire a real rainbow but want nothing to do with the symbol. Pit bulls are symbols of "I'm a badass" when in reality a good part of the time the owner is a chickenshit.

[Avante]

The real problem..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXlqY7LaiYg

Need to ban these mf's


It's all about the damage a pit bull can deliver, obviously a whole lesser situation with a tiny little dog. Ya don't hunt wild bore with Chihuahua's for a reason.

[DJR210]

It's all about the damage a pit bull can deliver, obviously a whole lesser situation with a tiny little dog. Ya don't hunt wild bore with Chihuahua's for a reason.

It's obviously sarcasm you stupid ass mother fucker

[HarlemHeat37]

It's obviously sarcasm you stupid ass mother fucker

:lol

[Blake]

It's obviously sarcasm you stupid ass mother fucker

:lol

[Avante]

It's obviously sarcasm you stupid ass mother fucker

Well no shit ya dumb mutherfucker, ya reckon? I played along so I could add my cute....ya don't hunt wild boar....


My God we have some idiots here.

[Avante]

Stat after stat after stat proves the pit bull is the Islam of the dog world. How anyone could even debate this???

[johnsmith]

You're a fucking clown.

[Avante]

You're a fucking clown.


That coming from an idiot?

Dude, show me a stat proving that pit bulls aren't dangerous, ok stupid?

[DJR210]

Well no shit ya dumb mutherfucker, ya reckon? I played along so I could add my cute....ya don't hunt wild boar....


My God we have some idiots here.

Don't try and play if off you dumb ass bastard

[benefactor]

That coming from an idiot?

Dude, show me a stat proving that pit bulls aren't dangerous, ok stupid?
No one wants to discuss it with you because you don't have a fully functioning brain.

[DJR210]

No one wants to discuss it with you because you don't have a fully functioning brain.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/a/a3/Truthbomb.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130721185303

[Avante]

Don't try and play if off you dumb ass bastard

I shouldn't have to try and play it off stupid, do you really think I thought anyone would be banning a tiny little dog? Come on guy, you really this stupid?

The obvious really isn't your thing is it dummy?

[Avante]

No one wants to discuss it with you because you don't have a fully functioning brain.

Ya mean that brain that can take all of you totally to school on a multitude of topics, this being another one?

[DJR210]

I shouldn't have to try and play it off stupid, do you really think I thought anyone would be banning a tiny little dog? Come on guy, you really this stupid?

The obvious really isn't your thing is it dummy?

When you have to explain everything that means you aren't funny homie.. stick to raping young girls

[Avante]

When you have to explain everything that means you aren't funny homie.. stick to raping young girls

When you can't tell you are being worked slick, you are stupid. And, ya don't rape professional hookers of legal age ok dummy?

Stupid, do you honestly believe there ya sat drinking with some kid? You really that damn dumb?

[DJR210]

When you can't tell you are being worked slick, you are stupid.

The irony

[Avante]

The irony

Too late for that little guy, you got worked and it was funny.

I took your troll and played it against ya ya dumb fuck. And...it was soooooooooooooooo obvious.

[DJR210]

Too late for that little guy, you got worked and it was funny.

I took your troll and played it against ya ya dumb fuck. And...it was soooooooooooooooo obvious.

Oh ok

[Avante]

Oh ok

Dude, do you really believe we saw guys sitting at the bar drinking with little girls, answer the question.

You really think the other sailors would be ok watching a guy messing around with little kids, well? AND....who is into flat chested, inexperienced, dumb/boring ass kids in a room full of full grown women who know how to fuck....well?

Do you think at all?

[DJR210]

Getting worked per par :lol ^

The irony

[Avante]

Getting worked per par :lol ^

The irony

Little guy the minute you starting talking that same old...rape kids....you were mine, and too damn stupid to see it. And ya get worked time after time after time...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I own you half pint, ok?

Don't call me a pedo....grrrrrrrrrr~~~~ And here ya come, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Will your dumb ass ever figure it out?

[140]

:lol old dumbass fat pedo getting owned as per par

[DJR210]

:lol old dumbass fat pedo getting owned as per par

<insert copy and paste pedo rape defense here>

[Blake]

Ya mean that brain that can take all of you totally to school on a multitude of topics, this being another one?

No, he's talking about the brain that thinks "everyone was doing it" is a good excuse

[Avante]

:lol old dumbass fat pedo getting owned as per par

How's that? Having the same dummies STILL totally ignoring my stance on sick ass pedos is being owned, huh?


To have the same dummies following me around like you has somebody owned and it's not Avante.

[johnsmith]

Little guy the minute you starting talking that same old...rape kids....you were mine, and too damn stupid to see it. And ya get worked time after time after time...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lol....ok pal....so the moment someone makes fun of you because you admitted to having sex with an underage girl, you win? The planet you live on must be crazy.

Clown.

[johnsmith]

How's that? Having the same dummies STILL totally ignoring my stance on sick ass pedos is being owned, huh?


To have the same dummies following me around like you has somebody owned and it's not Avante.

It doesn't matter your stance.....you admitted to violating an underage girl.

[Avante]

Lol....ok pal....so the moment someone makes fun of you because you admitted to having sex with an underage girl, you win? The planet you live on must be crazy.

Clown.

When you talk about how disgusted you were once ya found out about the sex slavery thing over there, and dummies take that as..."you pedo"....why I have no isea, yep, ya start poking fun at that stupidity. How does my disgust for that sick shit tuen into..."you pedo"...well?

[johnsmith]

When you talk about how disgusted you were once ya found out about the sex slavery thing over there, and dummies take that as..."you pedo"....why I have no isea, yep, ya start poking fun at that stupidity. How does my disgust for that sick shit tuen into..."you pedo"...well?

Bruh....you came on the Internet, logged on to spurstalk and then told everyone that you fucked an underage sex slave when you were a young man....it doesn't really matter what you say after.


I know avante, suck one dick and you're a cocksucker your whole life....well, same rule applies to having sex with children.

[Avante]

It doesn't matter your stance.....you admitted to violating an underage girl.

No I didn't, so where did you ever get that? Show me. Stupid, where did you ever get this stupid...underage...thing from, well?

I said this...

"Once I found out about that sick shit over there it pissed me off, why weren't we told about that shit?"


Now yell me stupid how does that become anything other than a guy who was in a shitty situation and didn't know it, well?

Dude, I would beat the fuck out of any guy messing with kids, ya don't play that sick shit if I;m around. Now what about that don't you understand?

[Avante]

Bruh....you came on the Internet, logged on to spurstalk and then told everyone that you fucked an underage sex slave when you were a young man....it doesn't really matter what you say after.


I know avante, suck one dick and you're a cocksucker your whole life....well, same rule applies to having sex with children.

No I didn't so why lie? I never said anything at all about underage anything, so why make shit up?

Stupid, underage over there would be...11...ok? And, me being a big guy I was into full grown women ok stupid?

Show me where I ever said I had sex with underage girls, ok?

[clambake]

Bruh....you came on the Internet, logged on to spurstalk and then told everyone that you fucked an underage sex slave when you were a young man....it doesn't really matter what you say after.


I know avante, suck one dick and you're a cocksucker your whole life....well, same rule applies to having sex with children.
boom!

[johnsmith]

No I didn't, so where did you ever get that? Show me. Stupid, where did you ever get this stupid...underage...thing from, well?

I said this...

"Once I found out about that sick shit over there it pissed me off, why weren't we told about that shit?"


Now yell me stupid how does that become anything other than a guy who was in a shitty situation and didn't know it, well?

Dude, I would beat the fuck out of any guy messing with kids, ya don't play that sick shit if I;m around. Now what about that don't you understand?

I'm not going back to find the post avante, but everyone here knows that you fucked an underage girl. Furthermore, the fact that you continuously boast how much you hate that type just makes you look more guilty. And the fact that you think when others laugh at you as you somehow owning them, just makes you seem more delusional.

Now go ahead and tell me that since I won't look for the post that you have proven me wrong and that you're "owning me".

Clown.

[johnsmith]

No I didn't so why lie? I never said anything at all about underage anything, so why make shit up?

Stupid, underage over there would be...11...ok? And, me being a big guy I was into full grown women ok stupid?

Show me where I ever said I had sex with underage girls, ok?

(Sigh)....same old shit, different day. Does Groundhog Day the movie really resonate with you?

[Blake]

To be fair, Avante just isn't sure if he did or didn't.

But everyone was doing it so it was OK. And it's legal over there. ..

[Avante]

I'm not going back to find the post avante, but everyone here knows that you fucked an underage girl. Furthermore, the fact that you continuously boast how much you hate that type just makes you look more guilty. And the fact that you think when others laugh at you as you somehow owning them, just makes you seem more delusional.

Now go ahead and tell me that since I won't look for the post that you have proven me wrong and that you're "owning me".

Clown.

There is no post where I talk about being with underage kids, the reason being I never said I was. All I said was I didn't know about the sex slavery thing over there.

So why the lies?

And watching guys like you simply lying about this stuff means that yes I own you dumb fucks. You can't hang with me talking anytjhing so ya make shit up, hahahaha~~~~~~ Yep, you are owned and I'm the one doing the laughing.

[Avante]

(Sigh)....same old shit, different day. Does Groundhog Day the movie really resonate with you?

Come on guy, show me anywhere I ever mentioned having sex with underage girls. Put up or shut up, ok fucker?

There is no human walking the face of the earth that needs a bullet in the brain anymore than a sick ass pedo, now what about that don't you understand?