I'm sold. Bertans is OG.

[dabom]

That backup PF spot is taken. :hat


That PnR dropoff 3 for Bertans. What Diaw used to do. Shoot that 3. :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy:

[TimDunkem]

Should be the backup SF, tbh.

Trade Kyle.

[dabom]

Should be the backup SF, tbh.

Trade Kyle.

Fathead should be traded tbh. Regardless of position. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Truth.

[BillMc]

That backup PF spot is taken. :hat


That PnR dropoff 3 for Bertans. What Diaw used to do. Shoot that 3. :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy:
:toast

[Play Boban]

LA should be cut and Davis should start.

[dabom]

Patty, Green, Bertans, Kawhi, LMA shooting 3s. :downspin:

Just kidding on the LMA part. And the ball in Kawhi's hand. :claw

[Splits]

He sucks, tbh

[dabom]

He sucks, tbh

Get off my thread pussy. :wakeup

[TimDunkem]

He's good, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Well his career is over





:lol

[dabom]

Well his career is over





:lol

Whose?

All the players I talk about become great. :lol

[dabom]

All the players that I say suck, suck. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Whose?

All the players I talk about become great. :lol
:lol

[dabom]

It's about spotting spots they excel and how to amplify those strengths.

This reminds me of when people kept saying Kawhi sucks and Tony great debates. Don't be a fucking loser again. :lol

[Splits]

I can't believe we've got this stiff on a guaranteed contract. He is sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

[dabom]

I can't believe we've got this stiff on a guaranteed contract. He is sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

I bet you still think Tony Porker is great. :lmao

[Splits]

:lmao Bertans "defense"

:lmao can't guard anyone

[dabom]

I remember people saying Patty sucks after surgery. I held it down all year.

70%TS that 7 game Playoff series. :lmao

I got a great track record. All other scrubs posters. :lol

[dabom]

Add that to the list Splits. :lmao

[Splits]

:lmao can't even shoot in preseason

[dabom]

It's not about this game you stupid fuck. :lol

It's about the future, faggot. :lmao

[Splits]

Add that to the list Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583). :lmao

What, his wide open 3s putting dents into the rim? Got it :lmao

[dabom]

I mean Splits got a Trump track record. :lmao

[dabom]

This is past preseason faggot. :lol

[Aztecfan03]

This reminds me of when people kept saying Kawhi sucks and Tony great debates.

And this reminds me of when people kept saying TOny is the worst player on the planet and Kawhi the best ever debates.

[dabom]

You're never right. Never an even "decent" evaluator of talent. :lol

[dabom]

And this reminds me of when people kept saying TOny is the worst player on the planet and Kawhi the best ever debates.

Did you see the Clips series. :lol

[Splits]

I mean Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583) got a Trump track record. :lmao

Per usual, you're making less sense than Bertrans makes shots. I'm the most anti-Trump poster on this entire site.

But I wouldn't expect a shitposter like you to recognize talent. After all, you're sold on Bert:lolns

[dabom]

Per usual, you're making less sense than Bertrans makes shots. I'm the most anti-Trump poster on this entire site.

But I wouldn't expect a shitposter like you to recognize talent. After all, you're sold on Bert:lolns

I'm not talking about your political views. I'm comparing your basketball IQ to that of Trumps track record per their respective positions. :lmao

Can you make sense of that faggot? Didn't expect a dumbass to understand. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Per usual, you're making less sense than Bertrans makes shots. I'm the most anti-Trump poster on this entire site.

But I wouldn't expect a shitposter like you to recognize talent. After all, you're sold on Bert:lolns
Damn I thought you were just trolling, but you're really just fucking stupid.

[dabom]

:lol

[Splits]

I'm comparing your basketball IQ to that of Trumps track record per their respective positions.

wtf does that even mean?

[dabom]

wtf does that even mean?

Trump being a complete fucking liar and wrong and every fucking subject. :lol

[dabom]

"Cutting taxes big time." for the rich :lol

Yeah that'll help the economy.

[dabom]

Splits I'm smarter than you. No need to get angry. :lol

[Splits]

You're off your meds. Find your caretaker asap

[dabom]

:tu

To anyone else, the wagon is still light. Could need more fans. :downspin:

[dabom]

I could also see Bertans as a backup 3. Do what kawhi used to do and spot up for threes and slash. Some one posted this in another thread.

[SilverSpur]

I really like him. He shoots well and will only get better every game and practice,

[SAGirl]

I like him, but Splits has a point in that he's been hyped up only just bc this is a troll Kyle Anderson thread...
He's living rent free in some of these peeps heads (by the way, you all taught me that phrase).

[TimDunkem]

Please. He's looked better than Kyle in just about every game so far.

[Spurtacular]

Fathead should be traded tbh. Regardless of position. :lol

We'd trade you to another message board if you weren't untradeable, tbh.

[ElNono]

OP is one of the most knowledgeable posters in this place, tbh... my main concern with Bertrans is not his talent, but if his knee is going to hold up...

[spurs10]

OP is one of the most knowledgeable posters in this place, tbh... my main concern with Bertrans is not his talent, but if his knee is going to hold up... Knock on wood. Bertans could end up being a real shot in the arm for this team. He looks like he belongs. Definitely the most promising new addition to the team which many have speculated about. Rightly so apparently. I was mainly concerned about Dedmon walking into the game and left feeling much better about him.

[dabom]

OP is one of the most knowledgeable posters in this place, tbh... my main concern with Bertrans is not his talent, but if his knee is going to hold up...

Legit. :tu

[waisman]

but his defense ...

[cutewizard]

Every additional weapon improves our chances.

Every strength adds to the Whole.

GO SPURS GO!

:claw

[TimDunkem]

but his defense ...
He isn't perfect by a long shot but he looks much better than a lot of us thought he would be. He's better than Fathead on D.

[benfti]

Bertans clearly has the form, those shots he takes are good shots. I can already see what he offers the team and it seems more than Kyle

[SAGirl]

He isn't perfect by a long shot but he looks much better than a lot of us thought he would be. He's better than Fathead on D.

He is not. True story....

[TimDunkem]

Yes, he is. True story.

[From Downtown]

OP is one of the most knowledgeable posters in this place, tbh... my main concern with Bertrans is not his talent, but if his knee is going to hold up...

Exactly
He was a legit player in Europe despite the injuries and being a really good shooter he's a specialist, which is what you need if you want to belong in this League

[dabom]

I like him, but Splits has a point in that he's been hyped up only just bc this is a troll Kyle Anderson thread...
He's living rent free in some of these peeps heads (by the way, you all taught me that phrase).

Slurp slurp. :lol


And this is strictly a Bertans thread. Just cause he is already better fit that fathead makes this a troll thread. :lol

[Solid D]

I'm sold on Bertans, but let's talk about me. :lol

;)

[TimDunkem]

Slurp slurp. :lol


And this is strictly a Bertans thread. Just cause he is already better fit that fathead makes this a troll thread. :lol
She's so protective over him. It's kind of strange.

[apalisoc_9]

Bertans has played better than Anderson so far...but its to early to give him Anderson minutes..

I think they would be competing for minutes this year...specifically, the rare minutes where Pop plays a smaller 4...Its not a lot but thats an added responsibility.

Anderson will keep his backup 3 Job though regardless of what happens or how good Bertans play.

[Chinook]

Anderson's probably been the second-best defensive wing in the preseason after Kawhi, and Bertans is probably tied with Simmons for last for wings who are likely to make the team. So I think if he's going to get consistent minutes, they should come at the four. That works best for his one good defensive skill anyway (rim-protection). You can see the talent there, but he's a bit behind the curve in terms of knowing how to play his role in the NBA. In that way, he's like an anti-LJC. He looks to have real talent but isn't there mentally yet. LJC is there mentally, but his skill level is so low that it almost doesn't matter.

[SAGirl]

Anderson's probably been the second-best defensive wing in the preseason after Kawhi, and Bertans is probably tied with Simmons for last for wings who are likely to make the team. So I think if he's going to get consistent minutes, they should come at the four. That works best for his one good defensive skill anyway (rim-protection). You can see the talent there, but he's a bit behind the curve in terms of knowing how to play his role in the NBA. In that way, he's like an anti-LJC. He looks to have real talent but isn't there mentally yet. LJC is there mentally, but his skill level is so low that it almost doesn't matter.
I agree he's a 4, that's why I see this thread as a troll Anderson thread. He's competing with David Lee and has a good chance to overtake him by the end of the season just bc Lee's style is so cancerous for everyone else playing with him and if the Spurs bench starts off like they did in the Celtics and even Mavs (where despite Lee's numbers being better, everyone else played better with him off the floor). That's where Davis has an inside.

[BillMc]

I agree he's a 4, that's why I see this thread as a troll Anderson thread. He's competing with David Lee and has a good chance to overtake him by the end of the season just bc Lee's style is so cancerous for everyone else playing with him and if the Spurs bench starts off like they did in the Celtics and even Mavs (where despite Lee's numbers being better, everyone else played better with him off the floor). That's where Davis has an inside.

Why is this a troll thread when the OP slotted Davis at the PF?

I guess it did become a discussion on Kyle later though, so my bad... But, many threads become "Kyle" threads these days, sadly. Just like how many threads used to become Parker threads...

[SAGirl]

Why is this a troll thread when the OP slotted Davis at the PF?

I guess it did become a discussion on Kyle later though, so my bad... But, many threads become "Kyle" threads these days, sadly. Just like how many threads used to become Parker threads...

Because he's living rent free on a lot of guys heads and you can't discuss anyone else or anything else without him propping up. I am trying to avoid bringing him up myself bc there are already 200 hate threads about him. I tried to stay within topic discussing Lee and Simmons in respective threads. Sadly Davis is going to be propped up by Kyle haters regardless of merit.

It's going to turn into the new

Bertans? "Still better PG than Parker" troll schtick but sub Kyle in, which basically renders the discussion meaningless.

[dabom]

Bertans propped up to make fathead look bad? Unlike you, I actually have credibility here. Every time I "prop" someone up like you think , it's because I actually think they are good. :lol

Your shitty takes though. :lol

[Brazil]

:lol dat persecution syndrom from SAGirl tbh... hilarious

[Chinook]

I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.

[MI21]

I'm interested to see what he can become. That jumpshot form is immaculate and I think when you have a shooter like that, he can thrive with playing with better players in a more structured system which is obviously what the regular season will be.

At this point in time, I find him more interesting than Anderson and much more interesting than Simmons. It could be a case of I know what those guys bring and Bertans is new, but I am very disappointed in the lack of obvious improvement in both Anderson and Simmons. I'm not sure either of those guys are going to be positives for this iteration of the Spurs.

[John Petrucci]

Said it before, but there will be some awesome highlight dunks this season if he's getting minutes. Really runs the floor and has great hops as well as intensity in his dunks. Looking forward to seeing some Kawhi/Bertans/Simmons fast breaks :toast

[spurs10]

I'm interested to see what he can become. That jumpshot form is immaculate and I think when you have a shooter like that, he can thrive with playing with better players in a more structured system which is obviously what the regular season will be.

At this point in time, I find him more interesting than Anderson and much more interesting than Simmons. It could be a case of I know what those guys bring and Bertans is new, but I am very disappointed in the lack of obvious improvement in both Anderson and Simmons. I'm not sure either of those guys are going to be positives for this iteration of the Spurs. I know he's been waiting in the wings for a long while, but it's not often you get someone new who looks ready to play in the NBA.

[GSH]

I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.


It would be a great play. The thought of using him that way, with his knees, makes me cringe - but it would be nice to have somebody attacking the rim like that. They tried it a few years ago with Danny, but missed connection so much that they quit.

[jyra]

I wonder how good Bertans is at catching lobs. If he's decent at it, a back-door 'oop would be a great corner play to put pressure on the defense. Manu from the top of the key or Anderson from the opposite high post would both be great places to pass from. Again, feeling really optimistic about it being BG2 in a year or so. Even this season with Manu and Lee, there should be some nice displays of passing.

Looks good to me:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKzdyfu58c

[Solid D]

Bertans is Matt's replacement, tbh.

[dabom]

Bertans is Matt's replacement, tbh.

Fathead is not even a Matt replacement. 30% shooting in the playoffs. :lmao

[dabom]

Worse drop off than Matty in the playoffs. :lol

[Solid D]

Fathead is not even a Matt replacement. 30% shooting in the playoffs. :lmao

Off-topic for the thread, but, okie dokie.

[BillMc]

Dude lost a finger, and torn his same ACL twice. Kept playing and by all accounts he worked so hard in rehab he's lost little to no athleticism.

Davis is tough. Type of guy its hard not to root for.

If he becomes a solid rotation player and Kawhi an MVP the Hill trade may go down as one of the worst ever for Indiana. It already might for Kawhi alone.

[tonight...you]

Bertans is the Truth. Boy's getting minutes and will be a solid rotation player by the playoffs. I expect a jump in minutes by the RRT. Solid thread.

[ceperez]

How tall is Bertans anyway? He looks taller than Dedmon.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/spurs/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/10172016_spurs_practice_sobhani0318.jpg?itok=UnSyD qVX

[BillMc]

How tall is Bertans anyway? He looks taller than Dedmon.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/spurs/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/10172016_spurs_practice_sobhani0318.jpg?itok=UnSyD qVX

A true 6'10"

Guy's had a 2 to 3 inch growth spurt since being drafted.

[SAGirl]

^ It's going to have to be on Pops bottom line bc Lee will lose minutes and Pops is loyal to his vets. Lee has individually been effective, but his game is very cancerous to others.

Can't tell much based on preseason though. It's too early.

[BackHome]

Lee is a decent player he will get most minutes until Bertans learns the defense and offense system.

[spursistan]

Shame that Bertans had such shitty luck with his health..I would have loved to get him a couple years earlier in our program..

[Solid D]

I'm interested to see what he can become. That jumpshot form is immaculate and I think when you have a shooter like that, he can thrive with playing with better players in a more structured system which is obviously what the regular season will be.

At this point in time, I find him more interesting than Anderson and much more interesting than Simmons. It could be a case of I know what those guys bring and Bertans is new, but I am very disappointed in the lack of obvious improvement in both Anderson and Simmons. I'm not sure either of those guys are going to be positives for this iteration of the Spurs.

Bertans should be able to stick with the Spurs as a stretch 4 but he's going to have to get better results from the arc than he has so far in preseason. He's only shooting .312 on 3-Pt shots as compared with his overall FG rate of .407.

I just think the Spurs are experimenting with Anderson and he's really struggling to score. Although he has the 4th most minutes in pre-season and his rebounding and steals (1.6/gm) have been decent, his scoring is tepid.

[Chinook]

Bertans should be able to stick with the Spurs as a stretch 4 but he's going to have to get better results from the arc than he has so far in preseason. He's only shooting .312 on 3-Pt shots as compared with his overall FG rate of .407.

I just think the Spurs are experimenting with Anderson and he's really struggling to score. Although he has the 4th most minutes in pre-season and his rebounding and steals (1.6/gm) have been decent, his scoring is tepid.

Not to start the SAG Mill turning again, but I really think that Anderson and Bertans fit together well off the bench. I thought they really started to hit their stride during garbage time. Davis seems like a heady guy, and that will help find him minutes. The problem is that he can't defend at all. I'm not sure that he can even guard the other team's tenth-best player right now, and that's bad for his prospects of unseating Lee or Kyle.

[Solid D]

Not to start the SAG Mill turning again, but I really think that Anderson and Bertans fit together well off the bench. I thought they really started to hit their stride during garbage time. Davis seems like a heady guy, and that will help find him minutes. The problem is that he can't defend at all. I'm not sure that he can even guard the other team's tenth-best player right now, and that's bad for his prospects of unseating Lee or Kyle.

Yeah, Kyle and Davis have developed some chemistry in working together. Defensively, Davis is below par - especially troubling after having played professionally for as long as he has.

[SAGirl]

Not to start the SAG Mill turning again, but I really think that Anderson and Bertans fit together well off the bench. I thought they really started to hit their stride during garbage time. Davis seems like a heady guy, and that will help find him minutes. The problem is that he can't defend at all. I'm not sure that he can even guard the other team's tenth-best player right now, and that's bad for his prospects of unseating Lee or Kyle.

I totally want to avoid discussing Kyle here so I will do my best...

As for Bertans himself, I didn't want to throw sand on anyone who is getting enthusiastic about him bc in general ppl throw sand and dirt and rocks too much here. I didn't even want to come down with hard criticism on Lee bc brooklynfan and others look forward to seeing him help the team and I think he can, provided the right situation, which is not the situation in the bench.

Lee himself is not a defensive guy of any kind. His biggest value is rebounding. Originally, Dedmon started preseason so BAD, like really, really bad, to the point LJC looked better than Dedmon bad, so I thought, damn Pop is going to have to play a lot of really small ball with Lee, it doesn't look good.

But now that Dedmon is looking better, it's going to be on Pop to find out how to fit in Lee, and him with Dedmon ain't it.

It's too bad Bertans has been so poor defensively, he can't stay in front of anybody and for all of his quick feet, he doesn't use them well. His value has been in rim protection so far, but he's not beyond redemption. He has tools physically to be better and Lee is really no defensive player himself.

Anyways, it will be something to keep an eye on.

Here is the only mention I guess I will make on Kyle only bc it's relevant: he likes to shoot from the midrange, and hes' a guy that whether ppl criticize or not, likes to get to the rim for himself or to pass. He doesn't live on the jumpshot. I don't think he's gotten quality looks for himself playing with Lee, he's been better in lineups without him.

For Simmons, the same. He likes to get to the rim all the time. He needs spacing to do his thing. HIm playing with 2 non space providing bigs will turn him into the train-wreck he's looked at times.

Manu is not shooting much more efficiently than Anderson himself. Again his time with Lee has seen him try to get into the paint for contested bad floaters and stuff of that nature.

I have seen enough to not like Lee and how he influences the quality of others' shots and what they like to do. Either he starts hitting jumpshots or this will be Celtics 2015 and he will be benched.

I have seen Pop stagger Pau and LMA, so it's possible Pop is willing to work around Lee more than last season sticking with Tim/LMA though at times the second unit needed a rim protector.

[cutewizard]

This guy is a certified bomber!!!

[spurs10]

It's hard to assess a player's defense in a scrimmage, but Bertans was relatively active today. He is lacking the upper body strength to take on some bigs, but it's unlikely he'll often be guarding big 5's. He has the heights to play the 4 that's for sure. Looked taller than Kawhi.

On the other hand, his offense was unstoppable. Just as cutewizard said "a certified bomber." :toast

[gambit1990]

thegreatcunt on bertans a few months ago:

All of them are scrubs
me in early july:

bertans will be in the rotation.
thegreatcunt recently:

Bertans looks great.

Deserves to be in the second unit

[ceperez]

I totally want to avoid discussing Kyle here so I will do my best...

As for Bertans himself, I didn't want to throw sand on anyone who is getting enthusiastic about him bc in general ppl throw sand and dirt and rocks too much here. I didn't even want to come down with hard criticism on Lee bc brooklynfan and others look forward to seeing him help the team and I think he can, provided the right situation, which is not the situation in the bench.

Lee himself is not a defensive guy of any kind. His biggest value is rebounding. Originally, Dedmon started preseason so BAD, like really, really bad, to the point LJC looked better than Dedmon bad, so I thought, damn Pop is going to have to play a lot of really small ball with Lee, it doesn't look good.

But now that Dedmon is looking better, it's going to be on Pop to find out how to fit in Lee, and him with Dedmon ain't it.

It's too bad Bertans has been so poor defensively, he can't stay in front of anybody and for all of his quick feet, he doesn't use them well. His value has been in rim protection so far, but he's not beyond redemption. He has tools physically to be better and Lee is really no defensive player himself.

Anyways, it will be something to keep an eye on.

Here is the only mention I guess I will make on Kyle only bc it's relevant: he likes to shoot from the midrange, and hes' a guy that whether ppl criticize or not, likes to get to the rim for himself or to pass. He doesn't live on the jumpshot. I don't think he's gotten quality looks for himself playing with Lee, he's been better in lineups without him.

For Simmons, the same. He likes to get to the rim all the time. He needs spacing to do his thing. HIm playing with 2 non space providing bigs will turn him into the train-wreck he's looked at times.

Manu is not shooting much more efficiently than Anderson himself. Again his time with Lee has seen him try to get into the paint for contested bad floaters and stuff of that nature.

I have seen enough to not like Lee and how he influences the quality of others' shots and what they like to do. Either he starts hitting jumpshots or this will be Celtics 2015 and he will be benched.

I have seen Pop stagger Pau and LMA, so it's possible Pop is willing to work around Lee more than last season sticking with Tim/LMA though at times the second unit needed a rim protector.

The only thing going for Lee is that he has a big body. Something Dedmon, LJC and Bertans lack.

[kobyz]

Doesn't play practical enough for my taste, play too cute a lot, and anyway I'm not going to put my eggs in a non ten fingers hands guy...

[dabom]

!st 8 mins. Bertans OG. :hat

[ceperez]

Doesn't play practical enough for my taste, play too cute a lot, and anyway I'm not going to put my eggs in a non ten fingers hands guy...

He's like the 11th man in the roster!

Pecking order Kawhi - Aldridge - Pau - Parker - Manu - Green - Mills - Anderson - Dedmon - Simmons - Bertans - Lee - Murray - LJC

[BillMc]

Wished we signed him to a longer contract. He'll be expensive if he finds any real production at all.

[Chinook]

Wished we signed him to a longer contract. He'll be expensive if he finds any real production at all.

The Arenas rule will likely protect the Spurs.

[ulosturedge]

He's got a solid stroke and sneaky athleticism. He looks like he's going to pan out in the NBA. I see some basketball IQ as well. I think after all is said and done it is going to look like we fleeced the Pacers on that trade.

[BD24]

I'm a fan. Shame he isn't better on the defensive end. Luckily he has the athleticism to be decent though. Needs to bulk up so he can fair better against fours.

[BillMc]

He's got a solid stroke and sneaky athleticism. He looks like he's going to pan out in the NBA. I see some basketball IQ as well. I think after all is said and done it is going to look like we fleeced the Pacers on that trade.

Agree completely. I think we're already in "fleece territory" with Kawhi alone.

[GSH]

The Arenas rule will likely protect the Spurs.


That's what everybody said about Boban last season.

[Robz4000]

Dude lost a finger, and torn his same ACL twice. Kept playing and by all accounts he worked so hard in rehab he's lost little to no athleticism.

Davis is tough. Type of guy its hard not to root for.

If he becomes a solid rotation player and Kawhi an MVP the Hill trade may go down as one of the worst ever for Indiana. It already might for Kawhi alone.

Shit, it's already one of the worst trades in league history much less Indiana history. Bertans becoming something in the NBA is just icing on the cake.

[Chinook]

That's what everybody said about Boban last season.

Two-years deals a much more stable than one-year deals, since you don't have to keep cap space or an exception to match. And Boban wasn't expensive, really. He was just too expensive for what the team needed.

[BillMc]

PTR with some nice vines and tweets of Bertans from the Houston game. (As this as become the default "Church" of DB thread. :lol)

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/10/21/13361880/spurs-finish-preseason-with-win-over-rockets-bryn-forbes-davis-bertans

[From Downtown]

I'm so excited about this guy

[r0drig0lac]

and the comparison with Bonner looks more ridiculous every day

[Fireball]

last nights game was the first I watched this season ... I like his shooting ... nice pump fake ... attacked the rim once ... and has length on defense ... I like him a lot

[Chinook]

and the comparison with Bonner looks more ridiculous every day

Yeah, let's see if he can not do it in games that count before we anoint him Matty 2.0.

[Drom John]

Arenas rule adjustment is supposedly one of the issues being discussed for the new CBA, though I believe the focus is to detox the poison pill offers.

[baseline bum]

That's what everybody said about Boban last season.

That was a different scenario, the Spurs needed capspace to sign Gasol.

[baseline bum]

Agree completely. I think we're already in "fleece territory" with Kawhi alone.

We were in the fleece territory back in 2012. By 2016 we're nearing the McHale & Parish for Joe Barry Carroll level of trade rape.

[sexinthatsx]

Bertan's 3 point shooting stroke looks so effortless and perfect. I'm sold.

[sexinthatsx]

Plus, he'll create matchup problems for other teams. I can see it already.

[TrainOfThought5]

We were in the fleece territory back in 2012. By 2016 we're nearing the McHale & Parish for Joe Barry Carroll level of trade rape.

If he puts some muscle on his body and flashes starter potential, we could have a Herschel Walker situation on our hands.

[spurs10]

With 82 games a head of us I think Bertans will be getting more PT than your average NBA rookie. He's not a starter so it'll be within reason. I'm also stoked that we have other threats on the offense this year. Welcome Lauro and Forbes!

[ceperez]

Bertan's 3 point shooting stroke looks so effortless and perfect. I'm sold.

Not only effortless. Did you notice his range!

[SAGirl]

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[Nathan89]

Bertans is the best "pf" to play against Draymond. You can't post up Draymond so stretching the floor is the best thing to do. And on defense it isn't very difficult to guard him and his length/vertical defense would be a huge advantage. Of course we don't truly have the guard talent to take advantage of that but Bertans would help neutralize Draymond's impact. GSW so stacked though they can just move Draymond to center to again take some advantage of his strengths.

[benefactor]

788097891789266944
Pop loving a gunner? Never heard of such.

[GSH]

Two-years deals a much more stable than one-year deals, since you don't have to keep cap space or an exception to match. And Boban wasn't expensive, really. He was just too expensive for what the team needed.

That was a different scenario, the Spurs needed capspace to sign Gasol.



There's never enough cap space. And if Bertans keeps knocking down 3's, and defending the rim the way he has been, he's going to be at least as sought after as Hedo was at his peak. If the Spurs are making a play at another big name next offseason, the amount Bertans could get under the Arenas Provision could still be tough to match, if some team gets him to sign an offer sheet early. If Gasol hadn't signed here, the Spurs would have had enough space to match for Boban. But they only get 3 days to match, and they had to wait to see what Gasol was going to do.

And don't they have to have the non-taxpayer MLE available to take advantage of the Arenas Provision? (They won't have Early Bird on Bertans.) The Spurs could still wind up making a deal before the deadline that would throw them into the tax.

I'm just saying - if Bertans plays as well as we're hoping, there's no guarantee that the Spurs won't be forced to let him get away.

[objective]

I could be wrong, but I thought that he would be an Early Bird player and possible to be matched using only a designated Early Bird Exception. They wouldn't have to save caproom or the mle for him.

Only hang up is if teams get scared off of an offer, the Early Bird Exception limits their own offer to him to a minimum two years at about the league average salary. So if Bertans wanted more, they might have to sign him to a one year at crap money to get his full bird rights to go over the cap.

[SAGirl]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2670626-spurs-insider-meet-san-antonios-next-european-phenom-davis-bertans

Mike Monroe writing for bleacher report now..
anyways, not that I am a fan of his or anything.. but this article on Bertans featured a lot of interviews about him, so it is a good one. The stuff is nothing new, it's been on interviews recently given by teammates and Pop, but he compiled in a nice article...
Pop:


The poor guy had the two ACL (tears), back-to-back, basically, so he's been rehabbing for a couple of years,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said after he wowed the crowd at the open scrimmage. “It looks like he is healthy and is doing exactly what we thought he could do when we drafted him. He's been very, very good. “We've watched him play for several years now, so he's not a surprise, other than maybe he's a bit more athletic than we have been expecting. His speed and quickness are better than one might think than from watching film of him. The guys that have gone over to watch him have always been impressed with him. For people like myself, who have only seen him on film for the most part because he's been so injured, that was nice, a small surprise. But he's had a really good camp. He's done well.”



Bertans himself:

“On this team, you just have to take the role that comes to you. If I don’t get any touches, I don’t get any touches. The way the ball moves here, it’s easy to get the touches and get wide-open looks. Whatever Coach Pop gives me, I’m fine with that.”
“I think it’s getting easier and easier, trying to get the feel for the system and moving around the court,” Bertans said. “I wasn’t used to being under the rim and in the paint so much. I’m just getting used to the system, that I have to be in the position where I have to be and then just find open spots on the court offensively.”

Manu:

Matty had a great career, with championships, played 10 years on one team,” said Ginobili, now the Spurs’ oldest player, at 39. “It’s not a bad comparison. For sure, [Bertans] has the potential to do more, because of his athleticism, because of his size, his quick release. He’s going to need a little time to adjust. “He’s going to play. Pop likes his game. Opponents are going to have to respect his shot.”

[LittleCriminal]

Bertans kinda reminds me of Andrei Gennadyevich Kirilenko... Just sayin.

[Chinook]

There's never enough cap space. And if Bertans keeps knocking down 3's, and defending the rim the way he has been, he's going to be at least as sought after as Hedo was at his peak. If the Spurs are making a play at another big name next offseason, the amount Bertans could get under the Arenas Provision could still be tough to match, if some team gets him to sign an offer sheet early. If Gasol hadn't signed here, the Spurs would have had enough space to match for Boban. But they only get 3 days to match, and they had to wait to see what Gasol was going to do.

And don't they have to have the non-taxpayer MLE available to take advantage of the Arenas Provision? (They won't have Early Bird on Bertans.) The Spurs could still wind up making a deal before the deadline that would throw them into the tax.

I'm just saying - if Bertans plays as well as we're hoping, there's no guarantee that the Spurs won't be forced to let him get away.

They don't need cap space to match a two-year deal. Had Boban been coming off a second season, the Spurs would've been able to keep him. No one is going to force the Spurs to get rid of Bertans.

[Chinook]

I could be wrong, but I thought that he would be an Early Bird player and possible to be matched using only a designated Early Bird Exception. They wouldn't have to save caproom or the mle for him.

Only hang up is if teams get scared off of an offer, the Early Bird Exception limits their own offer to him to a minimum two years at about the league average salary. So if Bertans wanted more, they might have to sign him to a one year at crap money to get his full bird rights to go over the cap.

That's assuming they don't have cap space, which they will in 2018 almost certainly. But if Bertans did want more, then he'd have to sign an offer sheet.

And here's where things do get messy. The new CBA is going to allow restricted free agency to take place during the moratorium, meaning the offer sheets will have to be matched before teams can actually sign other guys. This will indirectly take out scenarios where the Spurs use their space before essentially giving Bertans a bigger deal by allowing some team to make an offer that they (the Spurs) can't. We'll have to see how they handle the cap implications, but I could see the owners using this as some small way of limiting player movement.

The benefit is that poison pills are supposedly a thing of the past, so it's not all bad.

[SAGirl]

Interesting, that makes it easier to resign and keep your guys (eliminating the poison pill aspect) but it increases the difficulty of forming a super team by arranging contracts in a specific way. And it is risky to let go rotation guys to go in pursuit of unknowns. Right?

[Biernutz]

I saw Davis at the Miami game and he reminds me of KD in size and shooting
style. Very smooth shooter, will be a asset to the second team. Just hope his
knees hold up.....

[ceperez]

I saw Davis at the Miami game and he reminds me of KD in size and shooting
style. Very smooth shooter, will be a asset to the second team. Just hope his
knees hold up.....

He's got talent for sure. The problem is obviously his knees.

[raybies]

I think hes starter potential. He's got a similar game to Klay Thompson on offense. Obviously no where near the defender Klay is but he's got something special about him, or as some would say, that it factor. Elite role player ceiling. Still very athletic despite the acl tears but man if he holds up he could be special.

[ceperez]

I think hes starter potential. He's got a similar game to Klay Thompson on offense. Obviously no where near the defender Klay is but he's got something special about him, or as some would say, that it factor. Elite role player ceiling. Still very athletic despite the acl tears but man if he holds up he could be special.

If you mean by camping out on the 3 point line. Well that's where Klay has been very effective.

Klay is also pretty decent attacking the rim. I don't think Bertans has that kind of savvy yet. If he's more deliberate attacking the rim like Kyle Anderson, then he'll be much more effective. What I've seen is like he wants to use his athleticism to get to the ring. Not happening in the NBA.

Is he starter potential? Maybe, I like the configuration of Parker, Leonard, Bertans, Aldridge and Pau.

[SAGirl]

Just to note, but I am sure guys know, he has been a 4 every time we have seen him. I think that is where he has advantages too. His ballhandling is inadequate for a perimeter player but solid for big. There are just things that he's able to do bc he's a big. Played as a wing he would lose some advantages he has when he puts the ball on the floor and his perimeter defense exposed.

He needs help improving finishes in the paint, outside of a dunk, he won't be finishing inside. He has no floaters or hook shots, etc. Needs to add something for when they run him off the line. He's been dishing but that may not be there all the time.

To me it's very clear that he's so much better as a 4 for himself and opening opportunities for others that despite ppl wanting him as a SF, I doubt he's ever a 3 except garbage time lineups. And it's no matter bc a 4 is all he's played for Pop.

[DJR210]

Unloaded the contents of my bowel when I saw him go into the lane and rise up for Statue of Liberty dunk a couple games back.. I think it was the opposite knee, but still he landed funny

[Chinook]

He needs help improving finishes in the paint, outside of a dunk, he won't be finishing inside. He has no floaters or hook shots, etc. Needs to add something for when they run him off the line. He's been dishing but that may not be there all the time.

Eh,

He has a very good one-dribble pull-up. You're right that he's not a great finisher, in the paint, but he has a counter to being run off the line, especially if he's a four and is being run off by clumsier guys.

[SAGirl]

Eh,

He has a very good one-dribble pull-up. You're right that he's not a great finisher, in the paint, but he has a counter to being run off the line, especially if he's a four and is being run off by clumsier guys.

He can only do the one dribble pull up over a hard close out (a fly by), but I have seen that hmmm about 20%, not the most common close out on him I have seen. They have closed out to him where they have given him no room to shoot many times, so he has to dribble drive. I have noticed very nice passing out of those situations myself, but outside of the dunk attempts nothing else has gone in. It's an area to develop for sure.

He was camped at the 3 in Europe and over 70% of his shots were from the 3 pt line, I think he just didn't develop some finishes in the paint bc it wasn't called for by his prior coaches. It goes right with him saying he's been surprised the system has him playing in the paint so much.

[ceperez]

He can only do the one dribble pull up over a hard close out (a fly by), but I have seen that hmmm about 20%, not the most common close out on him I have seen. They have closed out to him where they have given him no room to shoot many times, so he has to dribble drive. I have noticed very nice passing out of those situations myself, but outside of the dunk attempts nothing else has gone in. It's an area to develop for sure.

He was camped at the 3 in Europe and over 70% of his shots were from the 3 pt line, I think he just didn't develop some finishes in the paint bc it wasn't called for by his prior coaches. It goes right with him saying he's been surprised the system has him playing in the paint so much.

There's consensus here that he can't finish in traffic. That's true and with his questionable knees he shouldn't be trying to do that.

I say, let him camp on the 3 and don't even bother to get leave the line and take the shot. I think 1-10 times it could possibly be blocked, but those are good odds.

[cd98]

Dude needs to put on more muscle so he can guard bigs. He's going to get pushed around a lot this year. He's going to need two more years to carve out a role.

[SAGirl]

Dude needs to put on more muscle so he can guard bigs. He's going to get pushed around a lot this year. He's going to need two more years to carve out a role.
I am hoping he plays this season, sink or swim.
Have you seen Lee/Dedmon?
Lee is not this impactful defensive player either and he's smaller. In fact Lee seems smaller than KA TBH. Bertans is notoriously taller than the 2. He truly is a legit 6'10"

I do worry about his knee. He has never played a season this long. Will he play 82 games? 60? Even that is around twice what he played in Europe in a single season I think and the NBA is more physical, so durability is a big question. But I think he needs to play bc the bench is so much better with him than without him, it's undeniable.

[Raven]

clearly you never saw diaw play

[cd98]

I am hoping he plays this season, sink or swim.
Have you seen Lee/Dedmon?
Lee is not this impactful defensive player either and he's smaller. In fact Lee seems smaller than KA TBH. Bertans is notoriously taller than the 2. He truly is a legit 6'10"

I do worry about his knee. He has never played a season this long. Will he play 82 games? 60? Even that is around twice what he played in Europe in a single season I think and the NBA is more physical, so durability is a big question. But I think he needs to play bc the bench is so much better with him than without him, it's undeniable.

I went to the Houston game. He'll get minutes as a stretch 4, but he was pushed around on the block. He's a better athlete than I realized, seeing him in person. But painfully skinny, he will need to bulk up. Same with Murray, though Bertans is more NBA ready, but don't expect an all-star performance from Betrans, especially when teams guard him on the three.

[SAGirl]

I went to the Houston game. He'll get minutes as a stretch 4, but he was pushed around on the block. He's a better athlete than I realized, seeing him in person. But painfully skinny, he will need to bulk up. Same with Murray, though Bertans is more NBA ready, but don't expect an all-star performance from Betrans, especially when teams guard him on the three.
I am not. I am actually more realistic about him than it would seem.
Thanks for sharing your input. Much appreciated. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

Dude is looking like a typical RC euro bust. :lol

27 minutes and 2 rebounds. Continues to not even try and crash the boards despite being 6'10

He will have one of those Austin Daye hot games once a month and faggot OP will bump this but this dude is waaaaay to inconsistent. Let's hope OP doesn't make a Rudy Gay is OG thread...

[cjw]

His defense is horrible. Literally losing guys over and over on rotations and getting eaten alive by his man all night. Fans can't like what they've seen from Bertans and Murray. Forbes has been nice but this is lesser competition (though he won't draw toughest defenders) and White has shown flashes.

[Blackjack]

Isn't Bertans playing with his NT?

Haven't seen the games, but he may just be out there staying in shape and not trying to do anything stupid - maybe even at the staff's advice?

At least, hoping that's the case reading these comments.

[Mr. Body]

Bertans needs to do something besides shoot. Not only does he look soft, he can't find ways to impact a game other than wander around the arc and start launching wayward missiles.

[JuneJive]

Dude is getting ready for Euro. Nothing to be worried about.

[Ice009]

Isn't Bertans playing with his NT?

Haven't seen the games, but he may just be out there staying in shape and not trying to do anything stupid - maybe even at the staff's advice?

At least, hoping that's the case reading these comments.

He shouldn't be out there at all if that's the way he's playing because there is no point to that. I find it absurd that the staff would be telling him to play like that.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I miss Bonner

[Blackjack]

He shouldn't be out there at all if that's the way he's playing because there is no point to that. I find it absurd that the staff would be telling him to play like that.

There's always objectives in SL or competition like it. It can be working on weaknesses, conditioning or rehab, working on sets and terminology or some combination of, so I take things with a grain of salt.

I'm not a big fan of people playing not to get hurt - usually ends badly. Hate to think he's not progressing, hoping he's just not showing his best or will look much better when he's allowed to play his role off of much better talent when it actually means something.

[Walter Donovan]

Bertans needs to do something besides shoot. Not only does he look soft, he can't find ways to impact a game other than wander around the arc and start launching wayward missiles.

Needs to lift some weights too tbh.

[duncan2k5]

I dont get u guys...judging players based on SL...Bertans played pretty good last year...even played good defense...I think because he is a euro, ppl judge his defense harder by default... He has played good position defense last year. Moved feet well...contested shots really well...he had a couple rookie lapses that were due to him not being accustomed to player tendencies, but all that is fixed with experience

[FkLA]

Bertans is a role player. He's a sharpshooter that plays off of stars and in return he provides great spacing for them. He can occasionally go by his man and playmake when the defender closes hard. His skillset works best on the first team. Not really the type of skillset that will dominate Summer League unless he just goes apeshit from deep.

He'll be fine. I'm more worried about Murray who's supposed to have the skillset to create for himself and others but has looked like dog shit against inferior competition.

[TD 21]

Why do people always say (insert tall player) is a sub par rebounder? One, they're going up against people their size and two, you don't rebound with the top of your head, which is why length is generally more important than height.

Bertans is 6'10'' in shoes, with a 6'10''.25 wingspan. Murray is 6'5'' in shoes, with a 6'9.5'' wingspan. Anderson is 6'8.5'' in shoes, with a 7'2.75'' wingspan. That's one reason they're good rebounders and he's not. The other is, though they're all string beans, the difference is, they don't have to contend with bigs (generally, in the latter's case). He lacks both the strength to box most out and the length to corral the ball.

Also, the fact that he was the 42nd pick and is a legit NBA player already ensures he's not a bust.

[dabom]

Dude is looking like a typical RC euro bust. :lol

27 minutes and 2 rebounds. Continues to not even try and crash the boards despite being 6'10

He will have one of those Austin Daye hot games once a month and faggot OP will bump this but this dude is waaaaay to inconsistent. Let's hope OP doesn't make a Rudy Gay is OG thread...

Pinked. :lmao

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Why do people always say (insert tall player) is a sub par rebounder? One, they're going up against people their size and two, you don't rebound with the top of your head, which is why length is generally more important than height.

Bertans is 6'10'' in shoes, with a 6'10''.25 wingspan. Murray is 6'5'' in shoes, with a 6'9.5'' wingspan. Anderson is 6'8.5'' in shoes, with a 7'2.75'' wingspan. That's one reason they're good rebounders and he's not. The other is, though they're all string beans, the difference is, they don't have to contend with bigs (generally, in the latter's case). He lacks both the strength to box most out and the length to corral the ball.

Also, the fact that he was the 42nd pick and is a legit NBA player already ensures he's not a bust.


Can Bertans get off the floor? Leaping ability and getting in position for rebounds can make up for lack of reach. I'm not sure what his vertical is rated at, but I've seen him try to tomahawk dunk a couple of times.

If he's got t-rex arms he needs to learn to position, and get stronger. Charles Barkley proved you can still rebound as a small big, you just have to know what you're doing out there. And Dennis Rodman, as much as I disliked parts of his game, knew how to get in position to rebound the ball. Bertans game is mostly that of a chucker right now. He's a 'B+' outside shooter, no post or true inside game to speak of, a 'C-' defender, and a 'D-' rebounder. He needs to work on his game if he's going to be anything beyond a situational rotation player.

[TD 21]

Can Bertans get off the floor? Leaping ability and getting in position for rebounds can make up for lack of reach. I'm not sure what his vertical is rated at, but I've seen him try to tomahawk dunk a couple of times.

If he's got t-rex arms he needs to learn to position, and get stronger. Charles Barkley proved you can still rebound as a small big, you just have to know what you're doing out there. And Dennis Rodman, as much as I disliked parts of his game, knew how to get in position to rebound the ball. Bertans game is mostly that of a chucker right now. He's a 'B+' outside shooter, no post or true inside game to speak of, a 'C-' defender, and a 'D-' rebounder. He needs to work on his game if he's going to be anything beyond a situational rotation player.

He can, but he's not a freak athlete and even then his lack of length prohibits him. Besides, even the freaks can't rely on out jumping for rebounds consistently.

Barkley had a strong base and Rodman was an exception to the rule.

To a much lesser degree, so is Lauvergne and on the other end of the spectrum, so is Aldridge. The latter is only .25 inches taller than the former, but has a 7.25 advantage in wingspan, yet his career rebound percentage is 1 percent worse.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hope this dude stops stinking it up in the SL....

[duncan2k5]

Once again...it is summer league...Bertans was one of the better rookies last year in the actual NBA...not summer league...as a rookie in the actual NBA...relax...he even frustrated Zbo in the playoffs...who was killing EVERYONE on the roster

[jermaine]

Hope this dude stops stinking it up in the SL....

Hate to disappoint but in my lonely opinion, he's not!! I feel he's showing his naked ass... Him an the #Babyfacekilla Forbes... They're both streeking down the court. Forbes is on another level though.

[hater]

If this scrub is not going Dirk Nowitzki in the summer league :lmao

What a damn scrub

[james evans]

i'm amazed at people that put stock in sumemr league games. Kyle Fucking anderson was summer league mvp. Think about that.

[TheGreatYacht]

If this scrub is not going Dirk Nowitzki in the summer league :lmao

What a damn scrub
Truth bomb. Posters are going at Forbes harder yet he isn't the one shooting 1/8 every other game and getting 2 rebounds despite being 6'10

[TimDunkem]

Yeah his rebounding is fucking atrocious. He could at least put in more effort on that end. I remember he wouldn't even attempt to rebound in the first two games of the Utah SL. He literally watched the ball hit the ground in front of him and waited for someone else to grab it.

[JoeShmoe]

In case the connection hasn't been made yet...

https://imgur.com/gallery/wbPH7

(Well, I had an image to share, but clearly don't know how to include an image in a post, and cannot delete my own posts?)

[Mr. Body]

i'm amazed at people that put stock in sumemr league games. Kyle Fucking anderson was summer league mvp. Think about that.
Bertans couldn't even impact any random SL game. Think about that.

[dabom]

Bertans couldn't even impact any random SL game. Think about that.

Bertans is OG and he gives zero fucks about what you think. :lol

BillMc (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16431)

[kaji157]

Average euroleague player at best when he was there, he was not going to be a star here if he wasn't in Europe.
Some people here have crazy expectations for whatever hobo PATFO comes up with.

[BD24]

Sure lets judge the guy on his summer league play not his good games against legit NBA competition this past year. Act like somebody ST, for fucks sake. Excited for DJ and Bertrand to make you all eat shit this year

[spursistan]

Since this thread was made; Bertans role has gradually diminished to become a human victory cigar the following season..

Recommendations: Pink the faggot OP..

[TheGreatYacht]

This scrub shouldn't see a minute of important basketball...

[Mr. Body]

He was fucking terrible tonight.

[TheGreatYacht]

This scrub shouldn't see a minute of important basketball...

[SpurPadre]

He's an athletic version of Bonner, tbh.

[Ice009]

I told you guys that he should be included in trades during the draft and free agency, but not many people here were willing to trade him at all. Same as Murray. I said to include both in trade packages, but most people around here overrated the FUCK out of them.

He's worse than I thought. I thought his stock was decent enough back then to use as a sweetener in a trade, but not anymore.

[SAGirl]

I told you guys that he should be included in trades during the draft and free agency, but not many people here were willing to trade him at all. Same as Murray. I said to include both in trade packages, but most people around here overrated the FUCK out of them.

He's worse than I thought. I thought his stock was decent enough back then to use as a sweetener in a trade, but not anymore.
The awful takes were rather of the nature of lets give up Danny and Kyle for free... maybe ask for some cheetos for Danny. You hold on to Murray at all costs and Bertans, and let's sign JSimms "empty calories" to a mega deal, and pick up some name in FA. Turns out Danny and Kyle have been winning games while Davis unfortunately is not doing well, and Murray has had a good flash here or there, but not enough (pads stats in garbage time a lot), while JSimms has been in a 7 game losing streak.

I don't hate any of the these guys, it's just that the trolls are awful with their bad takes around here. They are really keen to make up threads saying they "called it" when they hit on something, but hide under the bed with their bad troll takes most of the time.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He's an athletic version of Bonner, tbh.

If only he could rebound and defend like Bonner.

[ducks]

i'm amazed at people that put stock in sumemr league games. Kyle Fucking anderson was summer league mvp. Think about that.

[tholdren]

The awful takes were rather of the nature of lets give up Danny and Kyle for free... maybe ask for some cheetos for Danny. You hold on to Murray at all costs and Bertans, and let's sign JSimms "empty calories" to a mega deal, and pick up some name in FA. Turns out Danny and Kyle have been winning games while Davis unfortunately is not doing well, and Murray has had a good flash here or there, but not enough (pads stats in garbage time a lot), while JSimms has been in a 7 game losing streak.

I don't hate any of the these guys, it's just that the trolls are awful with their bad takes around here. They are really keen to make up threads saying they "called it" when they hit on something, but hide under the bed with their bad troll takes most of the time.

Lol

[Spurtacular]

Fathead should be traded tbh. Regardless of position. :lol


We'd trade you to another message board if you weren't untradeable, tbh.

I literally lol'd when I went back over this. :lol

SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524)

[dabom]

I literally lol'd when I went back over this. :lol

SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524)

I got a No-Trade clase. Only OG posters got it, faggot. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

I got a No-Trade clase.

You'd need one.

[Gagnrath]

DaBoom remind me a lot of Mello.... Lots of hype.... Lits of noise.... Never done much given lits of chances.... And now a no trade clause to.... But just makes everything around him worse.

[dabom]

DaBoom remind me a lot of Mello.... Lots of hype.... Lits of noise.... Never done much given lits of chances.... And now a no trade clause to.... But just makes everything around him worse.

Not that I agree but that was funny. :lol

[SAGirl]

He should get chances now that Rudy is out.

Hopefully he makes the best of them. He has been playing well lately.

[DJR210]

I got a No-Trade clase. Only OG posters got it, faggot. :lmao

You're not OG, you just never log out or do anything else

[TD 21]

If Gay is re-signed, watch some intelligent team come with an expensive offer sheet and pry Bertans away from these archaic idiots, who continue to watch this team labor offensively while a genuine weapon remains stapled to the bench.

[spurs10]

Sup.. :lol Hola! :hat

[BD24]

Where are all of the faggots that were doubting Berty tbh?

[Pavlov]

The trade talk makes zero sense unless there is some money angle I am missing.

[GAustex]

If Spurs could get a slasher/passer that can set Davis up nicely seems Bertrans could do some damage

[DAF86]

Remember when it was anounced that Bertans was signed for 5 millions per year for the next 4 seasons, and folks were actually bitching about it? :lol

[BD24]

Remember when it was anounced that Bertans was signed for 5 millions per year for the next 4 seasons, and folks were actually bitching about it? :lol
:lol, dumb assess wanted to keep Anderson instead

[BD24]

Sure lets judge the guy on his summer league play not his good games against legit NBA competition this past year. Act like somebody ST, for fucks sake. Excited for DJ and Bertans to make you all eat shit
:wakeup

[BD24]

If this scrub is not going Dirk Nowitzki in the summer league :lmao

What a damn scrub
Called dat shit?

[BD24]

This scrub shouldn't see a minute of important basketball...
https://media.giphy.com/media/aSTJbOerwCKqc/giphy.gif

[Play Boban]

Remember when it was anounced that Bertans was signed for 5 millions per year for the next 4 seasons, and folks were actually bitching about it? :lol
The IQ of the average poster on this forum is under 50 tbh, so I’m not surprised.

[phxspurfan]

Fast becoming my fave Spur of this retardedly constructed new age roster. Bert is legit

[r0drig0lac]

Remember when it was anounced that Bertans was signed for 5 millions per year for the next 4 seasons, and folks were actually bitching about it? :lol

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[jermaine]

If he's traded for Terry, I might stop watching the Spurs just for being stupid... Why would you trade a big like him but keep a midget like Forbes an we're already Guard heavy!?!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1089982919374979072

[BillMc]

https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1089982919374979072

Prayers to Davis and Anna.

[ceperez]

https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1089982919374979072

I just realized that Bertans shooting could be affected if he has to get up at night to calm the baby!!

[jermaine]

I just realized that Bertans shooting could be affected if he has to get up at night to calm the baby!!

More so you dont know your child health!!! Moeye cant calm that kinda stress.