SAEN confirms Aldridge is on the trading block.

[YGWHI]

I will say this much. If the Spurs really did tell him that it was going to be "his team" in order to get him here, I can understand him being a little bit tweaked. Nobody here thought it would be anyone other than Kawhi's team. I don't really care whether LMA deserves it, or whether he's good enough, or whether he should be more of a team player, or any of that. If that's what they told him to get him here, he's got a legit beef over it. Because I don't think it would have mattered what he did, it was never going to happen.


I really don't think that was case. First, Pop has been on record saying Kawhi's the face of the franchise; Second, he even stated that KL is the Big 1.

Exactly. How LMA could think that when Pop is saying that Kawhi'd be the face of franchise since 2012?


Question: What kind of season do you see Kawhi Leonard having next season? Also, where do you see him in five years?

GP: I think he’s going to be a star. And as time goes on, he’ll be the face of the Spurs I think. At both ends of the court, he is really a special player. And what makes me be so confident about him is that he wants it so badly. He wants to be a good player, I mean a great player. He comes early, he stays late, and he’s coachable, he’s just like a sponge. When you consider he’s only had one year of college and no training camp yet, you can see that he’s going to be something else.




http://www.slamonline.com/nba/gregg-popovich-kawhi-leonard-will-be-face-of-the-spurs/#dGOfBevhVzKlZqd8.97

However, LMA and PATFO, both parts are enough professional to deal with this.
In fact, after that game in Phoenix where LMA told media 'this is Kawhi's team...I just want to help him' ...Pop gave him a lot more plays that month and the next -than Kawhi- to get him comfortable . After these rumors, things can work in the same way.

[TrainOfThought5]

Then who can they conceivably get that is of equal (or better) value?

Blake Griffin could be a strong possibility, but only if the Clippers know he won't re-sign with them. Outside of him, no one is trading a quality, young big man away for a past 30, nearly out of his prime PF that allegedly has a "poor" work ethic and pouts.

I would love to snag Marquesse Chriss (sp.) and picks from Phoenix, but that kid has a ton of upside and LaMarcus wouldn't improve Phoenix that much at all.

Jahlil Okafor.

[J_Paco]

Jahlil Okafor.

Okafor may never become better than Aldridge is right now. Plus, he sucks on defense and has issues with dealing with adversity.


What does 2016 Parker do that Butler can't do on offense?

Don't say anthing that you can't quantify like leadership or knowledge of the system.

Not that I don't believe in leadership, its just you can't quantify it. It's subjective. Leadership shifts anyway. Parker can say he intends on being more of a leader with Duncan gone, but him being a leader isn't going to make him a better defender, and it isn't going to make him more consistent.


You gotta be a complete idiot if you think Jimmy Butler could ever play point guard full-time in the NBA. Parker has better vision, has way better handles, is far more efficient (throughout the entirety of his career) and has much better shot selection as well.

Of course, Butler is better in every other conceivable way especially defense but he has his shortcomings as a player. He's likely reached his ceiling as a player and his 2.4 assist/turnover ratio (Tony was at 2.94 A/TO last season) isn't too impressive.

A non-PG that plays a similar style to Kawhi, needs the ball to be effective, isn't as efficient as Kawhi and needs to be "the man" on the team isn't going to make the team a lot better. They would need improvements at PG, either a good PF prospect or player comparable to Aldridge and possibly other assets (draft picks/overseas prospects) for any trade to be "good" for the franchise.

Ball hog Jimmy ain't the answer, IMO.

Note: I like Butler as a player and he has worked extremely hard to make himself into a elite wing player, but his style of play doesn't mesh with Kawhi.
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[da_suns_fan]

he's laughing cause sunsfan knows parker isn't shit.

tell us more about MVParker's trade value thegreatcunt.

This is true. I wouldnt want Parker for free let alone with that ridiculous contract. Id rather just keep the point guards we got.

And I doubt they would even trade Booker if Kawhi Leonard was involved. They LOVE this kid. Put him on season ticket packages etc.

Yes, Kawhi is an infinitely better player but from a marketing, ticket sales pov I dont think theyd even consider it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The link in the OP reads:

The Express-News has been informed by a league source the Spurs are open to trading the former Longhorn should the right package surface. Those within the Spurs refuted the suggestion, saying no talks have occurred with any team.

Manu4tres edits sources like the hater account.

[MaNu4Tres]

The link in the OP reads:

The Express-News has been informed by a league source the Spurs are open to trading the former Longhorn should the right package surface. Those within the Spurs refuted the suggestion, saying no talks have occurred with any team.

Manu4tres edits sources like the hater account.

It was updated. Jabari fixed it after the fact.

Thanks for chiming in.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was updated. Jabari fixed it after the fact.

Thanks for chiming in.

Link doesn't say that either.

Thanks for chiming in.

[Russo21]

No he is not

[Russo21]

I've said this before to. If you hear rumours about something like this then the trade is already dead or completely fabricated anyway.

[davidbowie]

we should trade LMA for lebron

just my opinioN!

[Canyonero]

we should trade LMA for lebron

just my opinioN!

LeBron Jr?

[TheGreatYacht]

aldridge > kawhi ... imho
Whoever disagrees is a retard, tbqh

[ECOV]

Whoever disagrees is a retard, tbqh
i disagree tbqh

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Trade him for Romo's contract
...

Spurs' goose is good as cooked, need to help the Cowboys as much as possible

[Chillen]

we should trade LMA for lebron

just my opinioN!

Maybe in a parallel universe man, Gilbert would never trade LeBron for Aldridge, even if he wanted out of Cleveland. Keep dreaming! LeBron would only be traded for Curry and Durant together! or else no point in trading him.

[Brazil]

Butler PG ? :lol

[MoSpur02]

http://ferrall.radio.cbssports.com/2016/10/19/san-antonio-sportscaster-macmullan-made-up-a-story/

[MoSpur02]

Apparently Joe Reinagel went on some CBS radio show and pretty much said Jackie MacMullan made the whole trading LaMarcus Aldridge thing yup.

[tonight...you]

Apparently Joe Reinagel went on some CBS radio show and pretty much said Jackie MacMullan made the whole trading LaMarcus Aldridge thing yup.
Color me shocked. And why not? Everybody can just make shit up, off the top off their heads, in public, on national TV no less and face just about zero consequences. Nay, lauded for being a good bullshitter!
Today's Reality...

[Chinook]

"Called the Spurs Organization"

Like it's fucking Pizza Hut.

[SAGirl]

I've said this before to. If you hear rumours about something like this then the trade is already dead or completely fabricated anyway.

I remembered that. The rumor was started by the celtics reporter, her sources are probably within the Celtics. Celtics have probably picked up that phone to talk to RC about Aldridge but didn't come away with him obviously, and they have started rumors about his character to depress his value.

[MaNu4Tres]

Aldridge is about to squash all the rumors on Rome right now... Coming up

[Budkin]

As I said earlier in this thread, the whole thing was obviously total bullshit.

[MaNu4Tres]

I remembered that. The rumor was started by the celtics reporter, her sources are probably within the Celtics. Celtics have probably picked up that phone to talk to RC about Aldridge but didn't come away with him obviously, and they have started rumors about his character to depress his value.

To be fair, Jackie is one of the most credible sources in the NBA. And she's not one to just make crap up. She's also been one of the few writers in the whole country who has written an article in-depth as this one on the Spurs... This is from last year...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17356380/introducing-team-usa-next-coach-gregg-popovich


There's no way she writes something like this, with off the radar quotes from all of Pops' close circle, without having close ties with the Spurs.

[MaNu4Tres]

As I said earlier in this thread, the whole thing was obviously total bullshit.

Yup, because the Spurs would admit the truth behind it? Of course they will deny everything and make sure everything is covered up.

Truth is, we won't ever know if it's really true until a trade actually does happen. Even if a trade never happens, it doesn't mean it wasn't true. Spurs may never find a taker or an offer worth giving him up. We won't know that.

But but but... Joe Reinagel said differenty..... :lmao

[SAGirl]

To be fair, Jackie is one of the most credible sources in the NBA. And she's not one to just make crap up. She's also been one of the few writers in the whole country who has written an article in-depth as this one on the Spurs... This is from last year...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17356380/introducing-team-usa-next-coach-gregg-popovich


There's no way she writes something like this, with off the radar quotes from all of Pops' close circle, without having close ties with the Spurs.
If you read what I posted closely, I am not saying she made stuff up. I am saying her source put stuff out there to depress Aldridge's character bc the Celtics have picked up the phone to talk to PATFO and RC's prize for Aldridge is unnacceptable to them.

Celtics lately have been trying to fleece several teams so I would not be surprised if this is some hardball by the Celtics. Jackie just got the impression from her source, her source is the one who is making shit up, or exxagerating shit at any rate.

[MaNu4Tres]

If you read what I posted closely, I am not saying she made stuff up. I am saying her source put stuff out there to depress Aldridge's character bc the Celtics have picked up the phone to talk to PATFO and RC's prize for Aldridge is unnacceptable to them.

Celtics lately have been trying to fleece several teams so I would not be surprised if this is some hardball by the Celtics. Jackie just got the impression from her source, her source is the one who is making shit up, or exxagerating shit at any rate.

You said her sources are probably with the Celtics.

I showed you proof she has close sources with the Spurs. No other way she writes an article like that.

[Chinook]

She broke the "story" in the context of the Celtics. And this is the same kind of shit Ainge has been rumored to pull with many trade targets. Could it be from SA? Sure. Is that likely? Nope.

[SupremeGuy]

So really this all comes from that dude's opinion piece right? Lol What the fuck?

[MaNu4Tres]

She broke the "story" in the context of the Celtics. And this is the same kind of shit Ainge has been rumored to pull with many trade targets. Could it be from SA? Sure. Is that likely? Nope.

I never said who said what. Or where she got her story from. I don't know that. You don't know that. None of us know that. I simply pointed out proof that she has close ties with the Spurs. She has credibility and she has ties with the Spurs.

[Chinook]

So really this all comes from that dude's opinion piece right? Lol What the fuck?

That, old-fashioned confirmation bias and a tendency for folks to trade in reason for credibility.

[Chinook]

I never said who said what. Or where she got her story from. I don't know that. You don't know that. None of us know that. I simply pointed out proof that she has close ties with the Spurs. She has credibility and she has ties with the Spurs.

And most other people with ties to the Spurs are denying this, so it stands to reason that her source came from somewhere else and is not completely credible.

[DaBears]

To be fair, Jackie is one of the most credible sources in the NBA. And she's not one to just make crap up. She's also been one of the few writers in the whole country who has written an article in-depth as this one on the Spurs... This is from last year...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17356380/introducing-team-usa-next-coach-gregg-popovich

** They are until they do.. And it looks like she finally did...


There's no way she writes something like this, with off the radar quotes from all of Pops' close circle, without having close ties with the Spurs.

[MaNu4Tres]

And most other people with ties to the Spurs are denying this, so it stands to reason that her source came from somewhere else and is not completely credible.

You honestly think Spurs would admit the truth behind this if it was true? If so, you're wrong.

[SAGirl]

You said her sources are probably with the Celtics.

I showed you proof she has close sources with the Spurs. No other way she writes an article like that.

That doesn't mean her source is from the Spurs. Why would it? Why would the Spurs disparage their own player? Use common sense dude.

[Chinook]

You honestly think Spurs would admit the truth behind this if it was true? If so, you're wrong.

That is not good reasoning. You're acting like they'd tell Jackie but not anyone else. Once you start assuming there are leaks, you have to go with it

[MaNu4Tres]

That is not good reasoning. You're acting like they'd tell Jackie but not anyone else. Once you start assuming there are leaks, you have to go with it

I'm not acting like anything. I'm not saying she got her information from Pop or RC. Hell, she could have gotten her information from anyone in Pops circle, Pops circle isn't just inside the Spurs practice facility. If you read the article she obviously has close ties with not only RC, but his broad circle around the NBA and outside the NBA.

Spurs would never admit the truth behind it even if it was the truth. Most of these outlets, like Joe Reinagel, asked the Spurs or their sources about it AFTER the fact. Of course the sources will deny it. Admitting truth, would put them in the worst situation possible going into the season. From the locker room to the leverage other teams would then have in a trade.

[MaNu4Tres]

That doesn't mean her source is from the Spurs. Why would it? Why would the Spurs disparage their own player? Use common sense dude.

What if it was from someone who has close ties with Pop and RC but they aren't affiliated with the Spurs? From that column, she got quotes from all of his close circle, not all of them are currently employed with the Spurs genius.

[spurs10]

If there is trouble in paradise then Pop and LMA are very good actors. They were quite amiable at the scrimmage and having a good time.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You said her sources are probably with the Celtics.

I showed you proof she has close sources with the Spurs. No other way she writes an article like that.

You mean the article with no quotes from the Spurs organization directly for the interview because he wouldn't talk to her? I'm glad Brown and Gentry would talk with her.

[SAGirl]

What if it was from someone who has close ties with Pop and RC but they aren't affiliated with the Spurs? From that column, she got quotes from all of his close circle, not all of them are currently employed with the Spurs genius.

see this is all your speculation right here.

You want this to be true sooo much that you will stretch the boundaries of what makes sense to fit what you want to be true and you always want to be right.

It doesn't make sense for any of this to come from the Spurs dude. What makes sense is that Ainge and crew (someone within their circle) placed rumors out there to depress Aldridge's value bc they have talked to RC and he's got a steep price. Aldridge is not being shopped so much as he's simply not in Kawhi's untradeable sphere. So RC will listen to offers but you better offer some ransom as far as RC is concerned.

And to the Celtics he's not worth a ransom. Considering Celtics' somewhat open attempts to fleece other organizations recently, and their hardball tactics, it's actually very believable that they have inquired about Aldridge and want him but are not about to give up a ransom when they don't think that highly of him to begin with, so they have chatted behind closed doors about the whole thing, including why they don't think he's worth a ransom.

[Hoops Czar]

And most other people with ties to the Spurs are denying this, so it stands to reason that her source came from somewhere else and is not completely credible.

It's also common practice to deny rumors even if they're true because they can disrupt team chemistry and team morale. The Spurs denied rumors they were shopping Tony Parker back in 2011 but it was later found out they clearly were. Jackie doesn't have a history of making stuff up for the pure sake of public publicity and internet page views. It doesn't mean her sources is less credible because it came from outside the organization.

[MaNu4Tres]

see this is all your speculation right here.

You want this to be true sooo much that you will stretch the boundaries of what makes sense to fit what you want to be true and you always want to be right.

It doesn't make sense for any of this to come from the Spurs dude. What makes sense is that Ainge and crew (someone within their circle) placed rumors out there to depress Aldridge's value bc they have talked to RC and he's got a steep price. Aldridge is not being shopped so much as he's simply not in Kawhi's untradeable sphere. So RC will listen to offers but you better offer some ransom as far as RC is concerned.

And to the Celtics he's not worth a ransom. Considering Celtics' somewhat open attempts to fleece other organizations recently, and their hardball tactics, it's actually very believable that they have inquired about Aldridge and want him but are not about to give up a ransom when they don't think that highly of him to begin with, so they have chatted behind closed doors about the whole thing, including why they don't think he's worth a ransom.



I'm simply saying you can't discredit her. There's proof she has close ties with the Spurs' circle and the Spurs. The only other writers who have written anything as in depth on the Spurs is Johnny Ludden and Buck Harvey. She's not some clown covering the Celtics making shit up on Bleacher Report. To discredit her and saying she's lying and believing Joe Reinagel is naive.

And what you're saying isn't speculation? Implying Ainge and crew devised this plan to make up rumors to sabotage the Spurs and Aldridges' value is a lot more of a stretch. Jackie has ties nationally, including in San Antonio, hard to imagine she'd be willing to ruin her relationships by teaming with Ainge to sabotage the Spurs.

Again I'm not saying Spurs want to trade him because of what she said, I'm simply saying you can't discredit the information just because Joe Reinagel and the local reporters said Spurs denied it.

[MaNu4Tres]

You mean the article with no quotes from the Spurs organization directly for the interview because he wouldn't talk to her? I'm glad Brown and Gentry would talk with her.

Apparently you didn't read the article or the quotes from R.C.

Nice try again.

[SAGirl]

I'm simply saying you can't discredit her. There's proof she has close ties with the Spurs' circle and the Spurs. The only other writers who have written anything as in depth on the Spurs is Johnny Ludden and Buck Harvey. She's not some clown covering the Celtics making shit up on Bleacher Report. To discredit her and saying she's lying and believing Joe Reinagel is naive.

And what you're saying isn't speculation? Implying Ainge and crew devised this plan to make up rumors to sabotage the Spurs and Aldridges' value is a lot more of a stretch. Jackie has ties nationally, including in San Antonio, hard to imagine she'd be willing to ruin her relationships by teaming with Ainge to sabotage the Spurs.

Again I'm not saying Spurs want to trade him because of what she said, I'm simply saying you can't discredit the information just because Joe Reinagel and the local reporters said Spurs denied it.

I am not discrediting her, but I am not spinning that up any further than what she said either, which you are. She made no mention of anyone within the Spurs organization and all of this was in the context of the discussion of trades.

I speculated a likely scenario within the context of trade discussions. It doesn't mean that is right either, but it's more plausible than the Spurs or somewhat close to them disparaging their second best player publicly dude. They are already very hermetic as they are.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm simply saying you can't discredit her. There's proof she has close ties with the Spurs' circle and the Spurs. The only other writers who have written anything as in depth on the Spurs is Johnny Ludden and Buck Harvey. She's not some clown covering the Celtics making shit up on Bleacher Report. To discredit her and saying she's lying and believing Joe Reinagel is naive.

And what you're saying isn't speculation? Implying Ainge and crew devised this plan to make up rumors to sabotage the Spurs and Aldridges' value is a lot more of a stretch. Jackie has ties nationally, including in San Antonio, hard to imagine she'd be willing to ruin her relationships by teaming with Ainge to sabotage the Spurs.

Again I'm not saying Spurs want to trade him because of what she said, I'm simply saying you can't discredit the information just because Joe Reinagel and the local reporters said Spurs denied it.

This is fairly ignorant. She wrote a piece on the new coach of the men's national team for ESPN at ESPN behest. She did an excellent job considering that the Spurs themselves wouldn't talk to her.

The issue here is that you cannot credit her. You are the one editing MYSA piece leaving out salient information and trying as hard as you can to confirm your bias.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Apparently you didn't read the article or the quotes from R.C.

Nice try again.

I read the one blurb from RC too. I read the article when it was written. Now please quote the passage that makes you believe they granted her an interview with Buford. I won't hold my breath.

Either you are monumentally stupid, have some form of mental retardation, or you are trolling.

[Chinook]

I'm not acting like anything. I'm not saying she got her information from Pop or RC. Hell, she could have gotten her information from anyone in Pops circle, Pops circle isn't just inside the Spurs practice facility. If you read the article she obviously has close ties with not only RC, but his broad circle around the NBA and outside the NBA.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that she got good information. And she's far from the only media member who can claim ties to someone or who's written an in-depth piece about the Spurs or members of the organization. For all we know, it was Pop's/RC's friends and families who gave most of that info. Does that make them privy to front-office moves?


Spurs would never admit the truth behind it even if it was the truth. Most of these outlets, like Joe Reinagel, asked the Spurs or their sources about it AFTER the fact. Of course the sources will deny it. Admitting truth, would put them in the worst situation possible going into the season. From the locker room to the leverage other teams would then have in a trade.

This is confirmation bias. There's no reason at all to assume that no one had talked to the Spurs about this outside Jackie and Lowe. It is significantly more likely that sources with something to gain leaked that they had talked to the PATFO about LMA and weren't immediately rebuffed. And Boston could definitely offer enough for me to not hang up the phone on them immediately. That doesn't put Aldridge on the block -- which is the spin of this thread, mind you.

What's going on here is a lot of "putting two and two together" is being passed off as evidence. LMA not being happy with how his first year went is understandable. People combine that with his history to suggest the Spurs promised him that he'd be over Kawhi. They combine that with teams calling the Spurs (assuming they'd want to tank because of GS and Tim retiring), and you get that they were trying to trade him because he's unhappy with not being over Kawhi.

[MaNu4Tres]

This is fairly ignorant. She wrote a piece on the new coach of the men's national team for ESPN at ESPN behest. She did an excellent job considering that the Spurs themselves wouldn't talk to her.

The issue here is that you cannot credit her. You are the one editing MYSA piece leaving out salient information and trying as hard as you can to confirm your bias.

You're wrong in both sentences.

1. In that article she shared in-depth information and quotes from R.C himself --- but of course she didn't get it from R.C herself right?

2. When Jabari Young first came out with the article, what I quoted is all of what he said in the sentence. Go read his Twitter timeline, he made an update a few hours later and added the sentence after what I quoted.

Nice try again.

[Chinook]

It's also common practice to deny rumors even if they're true because they can disrupt team chemistry and team morale. The Spurs denied rumors they were shopping Tony Parker back in 2011 but it was later found out they clearly were. Jackie doesn't have a history of making stuff up for the pure sake of public publicity and internet page views. It doesn't mean her sources is less credible because it came from outside the organization.

Yes it does. It doesn't dismiss them altogether, but it does call the whole thing into question. Folks outside the Spurs organization would only know because of specific events and would likely have agendas.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're wrong in both sentences.

1. In that article she shared in-depth information and quotes from R.C himself --- but of course she didn't get it from R.C herself right?

2. When Jabari Young first came out with the article, what I quoted is all of what he said in the sentence. Go read his Twitter timeline, he made an update a few hours later and added the sentence after what I quoted.

Nice try again.

I asked for quotes. Not your assertions.

[Chinook]

You're wrong in both sentences.

1. In that article she shared in-depth information and quotes from R.C himself --- but of course she didn't get it from R.C herself right?

2. When Jabari Young first came out with the article, what I quoted is all of what he said in the sentence. Go read his Twitter timeline, he made an update a few hours later and added the sentence after what I quoted.

Nice try again.

Fuzzy is being a little harsh for sure. But you did run with this when multiple posters warned you that you were jumping the gun. The primary reason for that is that you conflated being willing to trade someone with having that person on the block. And that just continued what has likely been a string of misinterpretations starting with the Lowe prediction.

It's like people mistaking the warmth at the bottom of a compost heap for evidence of a fire. It's really just the accumulation of a bunch of speculation feeding off itself.

[MaNu4Tres]

Fuzzy is being a little harsh for sure. But you did run with this when multiple posters warned you that you were jumping the gun. The primary reason for that is that you conflated being willing to trade someone with having that person on the block. And that just continued what has likely been a string of misinterpretations starting with the Lowe prediction.

I didn't jump the gun, I simply posted what Jabari posted.

Jabari jumped the gun, and went back and updated the information.

Now I'm just saying you can't totally discredit Jackie.. and apparently I'm wrong for having that opinion instead of the opinion that Ainge and Jackie teammed up to sabotage the Spurs' and Aldridge.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy is being a little harsh for sure. But you did run with this when multiple posters warned you that you were jumping the gun. The primary reason for that is that you conflated being willing to trade someone with having that person on the block. And that just continued what has likely been a string of misinterpretations starting with the Lowe prediction.

It's like people mistaking the warmth at the bottom of a compost heap for evidence of a fire. It's really just the accumulation of a bunch of speculation feeding off itself.

Then there is the tabloid nature of ESPN as he willfully parrots from the echo chamber.

Further this is the unupdated article posted on the 18th:

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

This is the updated article:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

They both differ from the OP's quote.

[Hoops Czar]

Yes it does. It doesn't dismiss them altogether, but it does call the whole thing into question. Folks outside the Spurs organization would only know because of specific events and would likely have agendas.

Really? What would be Jackie's motivation behind creating a fictitious fluff piece centering around the Spurs second best player all while covering another basketball team in an entirely different conference? Just because Jackie's source doesn't have ties to the Spurs organization doesn't mean source of Jackie's source doesn't. I'm not dismissing it but, it's out of character for MacMullan to just make stuff up.

[MaNu4Tres]

Then there is the tabloid nature of ESPN as he willfully parrots from the echo chamber.

Further this is the unupdated article posted on the 18th:

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

This is the updated article:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

They both differ from the OP's quote.


It was updated. When he first came out with the article, what I quoted is all that was written in the paragraph.

Whenever he started getting a lot of feedback, he updated the very first one quickly to add that last sentence then came back and re-wrote the whole article.

I'm not lying or one to troll. Anyone who first read it can attest to it. Whether you believe me or not, that's not my problem.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was updated. When he first came out with the article, what I quoted is all that was written in the paragraph.

Whenever he started getting a lot of feedback, he updated the very first one quickly to add that last sentence then came back and re-wrote the whole article.

I'm not lying or one to troll. Anyone who first read it can attest to it. Whether you believe me or not, that's not my problem.

News sites post UPDATED on the dateline when they are updated. I have shown where mysa does this as well.


With trade rumors surfacing, LaMarcus Aldridge's future with Spurs blurry
By Jabari Young Updated 12:20 pm, Wednesday, October 19, 2016

I just showed the unupdated, original article too and he indeed did edit it. He just didn't alter the portion you have in your OP which remains different.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Really? What would be Jackie's motivation behind creating a fictitious fluff piece centering around the Spurs second best player all while covering another basketball team in an entirely different conference? Just because Jackie's source doesn't have ties to the Spurs organization doesn't mean source of Jackie's source doesn't. I'm not dismissing it but, it's out of character for MacMullan to just make stuff up.

Creating controversy gets clicks. It's what tabloids do. This shouldn't be hard.

[MaNu4Tres]

News sites post UPDATED on the dateline when they are updated. I have shown where mysa does this as well. I just showed the original and the updated article and he indeed did update it. He just didn't update the portion you have in your OP which remains different.

Like I said, when he first wrote the article he didn't have any other sentence written after what I quoted. That's why when you read the thread, nobody ever pointed out that I "misquoted". He made an edit to the original to add that sentence before he made re-wrote the updated article.
So yes, the link of the original has the content with the first edit.

Keep reaching man.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like I said, when he first wrote the article he didn't have any other sentence written after what I quoted. That's why when you read the thread, nobody never pointed out that I "misquoted". He made an edit to the original to add that sentence before he made re-wrote the updated article.

Keep reaching man.

I'll let our audience decide for themselves. And actually alpha_haze and others pointed out portions that you left out too. Shall we revisit that too?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I repeat, those within the Spurs refuted the suggestion. Nothing here, of course the Spurs would trade LMA for the right package.

This post also has the correct quote quoted in it as well.

[dabom]

Manutres is correct on all points of the timeline. :tu

[tonight...you]

Manutres is correct on all points of the timeline. :tu
What about the point of MacMullen not making anything up?

[MaNu4Tres]

I'll let our audience decide for themselves. And actually alpha_haze and others pointed out portions that you left out too. Shall we revisit that too?

You wanted me to quote the whole article? I only posted what Jabari first reported a few minutes after what he first reported. I have no agenda.

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish but it's all based on your assumptions -- which are wrong.

[dabom]

Anyone else saying otherwise wasn't there from the first second of the post.

[coachmac87]

The rumors are real. But nothing is in the works. This will only catch fire again around the trade deadline...let's proceed

[dabom]

What about the point of MacMullen not making anything up?

I think people keep confusing what was originally posted and if anyone agrees with the original source.

[MaNu4Tres]

This post also has the correct quote quoted in it as well.

That was after Jabaris' edit. Like I said, he made an edit 30 minutes to an hour after he first published the article. I posted the OP minutes after he posted it on twitter.

[MaNu4Tres]

Manutres is correct on all points of the timeline. :tu

Thank you dabom.

[tonight...you]

I think people keep confusing what was originally posted and if anyone agrees with the original source.
That may be true, but for many multiple posts throughout this thread has been tres defending her honor to bouy his points. How is that working out for you?

[MaNu4Tres]

That may be true, but for many multiple posts throughout this thread has been tres defending her honor to bouy his points. How is that working out for you?

I'm simply saying you can't discredit her because of her ties and her credibility. I have no agenda. I'm simply being objective.'

And this thread was started because of Jabari saying " SAEN has been informed Spurs are looking to trade Aldridge......". It confirmed and backed up what Jackie was saying coming from Jabari and the SAEN by saying SAEN was informed.

This thread initially had nothing to do with Jackie. That's why I posted what Jabari had initially quoted in his original piece.

[tonight...you]

I'm simply saying you can't discredit her because of her ties and her credibility. I have no agenda. I'm simply being objective.
Well... now she can be discredited. Otherwise why would she be calling the Spurs to apologize?

[MaNu4Tres]

Well... now she can be discredited. Otherwise why would she be calling the Spurs to apologize?

So Joe Reinagel says. The guy always breaking news, right?

That may be true, but there's no way to know the truth of that either.

[tonight...you]

So Joe Reinagel says. The guy always breaking news, right?

That may be true, but there's no way to know the truth of that either.
You calling him a liar on her calling the Spurs to apologize? He has a job to protect too. Someone's definitely lying. I'll await her denial on this, should it ever even come up...

[MaNu4Tres]

You calling him a liar on her calling the Spurs to apologize? He has a job to protect too. Someone's definitely lying. I'll await her denial on this, should it ever even come up...

I'm not calling him a liar, but if I'm in the Spurs shoes, I'd say and do anything possible to squash these rumors for the sake of my team.

You don't think there's any possibility that Spurs' brass would lie and say whatever possible to destroy these rumors to start the season?

You think they'd want to keep these rumors around the team to start the year?

You think they'd admit guilt and ruin their lockeroom and any potential trade value with Aldridge?

You don't think there's any possibility the Spurs would lie to local reporters to get them to shut down these rumors down?

Common sense people. Whether there's truth behind the rumors or not, Spurs would never admit it and would probably do everything in their power to squash the rumors. It's common sense.

I could have told you myself they'd squash these rumors -- even if there was some truth behind them. IF there was truth -- I'm not saying there is.

Some people have trouble understanding the thoughts of objective minded people.

[Chinook]

Really? What would be Jackie's motivation behind creating a fictitious fluff piece centering around the Spurs second best player all while covering another basketball team in an entirely different conference? Just because Jackie's source doesn't have ties to the Spurs organization doesn't mean source of Jackie's source doesn't. I'm not dismissing it but, it's out of character for MacMullan to just make stuff up.

She's not her own source. If Ainge told her the Spurs were open to offers, then she's doing her job by reporting it. But that doesn't mean that Ainge understands the situation from the Spurs' perspective.

[Chinook]

The rumors are real. But nothing is in the works. This will only catch fire again around the trade deadline...let's proceed

Thanks, Coach. We'll follow your lead.

[dabom]

The Spurs could also know someone's lying if they have NEVER put anything out there including talking with other GMs. They could confront someone just like how Mark Cuban roasted that sauces dude.

[SAGirl]

That may be true, but for many multiple posts throughout this thread has been tres defending her honor to bouy his points. How is that working out for you?

Well the "rumors" now are that she called the Spurs personally to apologize for apparently spinning speculation out of control.

Why would she apologize, right?

I didn't think she was making stuff up, but her statements didn't come within the context of her reporting anything. It was a vague comment with actually her own personal inflection that she wouldn't take Aldridge for the Celtics based on what she heard. She never said what she heard to begin with or from whom. That statement by itself has spun shit with reporters giving perspectives from the Portland LMA, Lillard, and a lot of extraneous stuff that Jackie Mac never said. That would be the first reason to apologize I am guessing. Her nonspecific careless statements actually left vague shit open for interpretation, instead of her reporting anything clearly and there is no way to clean that up right now.

I do think Spurs have listened to offers for Aldridge, but they listen to offers for a lot of players. That is not the same as actively shopping someone. I doubt they can get fair value for LMA so I would rather they don't trade him.

They also made moves like re-signing Manu (!!!) and getting an aged Pau Gasol that scream the team wants to compete right now. If they wanted to rebuild for a season and really transition to a different era, they would have approached their offseason very differently, starting by making moves on draft day, etc. They clearly didn't want to punt a season IMO.

Heck Manu4tres himself was in favor of getting different guys than Gasol and building a team for the future and Spurs didn't do that, so that also doesn't scream to me that LMA is being shopped. The timing seems terrible for it to actually improve this team.

Now things can change, obviously once the season starts. And this is my guess, that there are a lot of GMs paying attention to the situation to try to fleece RC for LMA.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You wanted me to quote the whole article? I only posted what Jabari first reported a few minutes after what he first reported. I have no agenda.

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish but it's all based on your assumptions -- which are wrong.

Not anymore. I already cited the edited and nonedited articles. The original line is not changed in the update. I wnet ahead and looked on Young's twitter timeline and it only shows the one update on the next day which again I already linked.

[tonight...you]

You don't think there's any possibility that Spurs' brass would lie and say whatever possible to destroy these rumors to start the season?

You think they'd want to keep these rumors around the team to start the year?

You think they'd admit guilt and ruin their lockeroom and any potential trade value with Aldridge?

You don't think there's any possibility the Spurs would lie to local reporters to get them to shut down these rumors down?

Common sense people. Whether there's truth behind the rumors or not, Spurs would never admit it and would probably do everything in their power to squash the rumors. It's common sense.

I could have told you myself they'd squash these rumors -- even if there was some truth behind them. IF there was truth -- I'm not saying there is.

Some people have trouble understanding the thoughts of objective minded people.
Anything is possible. A meteor could strike NYC in the next 30 seconds. They could have done all those things. I don't think they did. And calling out a reporter, publicly, saying that they felt the need to call the team to apologize for a garbage story should bear a response from said reporter, defending herself and her ability to do good reporting. I know I would...

I shall await that response.

[MaNu4Tres]

Not anymore. I already cited the edited and nonedited articles. The original line is not changed in the update. I wnet ahead and looked on Young's twitter timeline and it only shows the one update on the next day which again I already linked.

For the third time, the sentence after the original line (the one I posted) was edited or added on 30 minutes to an hour after he first posted just the line I quoted. The original was edited before the new update was released.

That is the absolute truth. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's not my problem.

[Chinook]

Well the "rumors" now are that she called the Spurs personally to apologize for apparently spinning speculation out of control.

Why would she apologize, right?

I didn't think she was making stuff up, but her statements didn't come within the context of her reporting anything. It was a vague comment with actually her own personal inflection that she wouldn't take Aldridge for the Celtics based on what she heard. She never said what she heard to begin with or from whom. That statement by itself has spun shit with reporters giving perspectives from the Portland LMA, Lillard, and a lot of extraneous stuff that Jackie Mac never said. That would be the first reason to apologize I am guessing. Her nonspecific careless statements actually left vague shit open for interpretation, instead of her reporting anything clearly and there is no way to clean that up right now.

I do think Spurs have listened to offers for Aldridge, but they listen to offers for a lot of players. That is not the same as actively shopping someone. I doubt they can get fair value for LMA so I would rather they don't trade him.

They also made moves like re-signing Manu (!!!) and getting an aged Pau Gasol that scream the team wants to compete right now. If they wanted to rebuild for a season and really transition to a different era, they would have approached their offseason very differently, starting by making moves on draft day, etc. They clearly didn't want to punt a season IMO.

Heck Manu4tres himself was in favor of getting different guys than Gasol and building a team for the future and Spurs didn't do that, so that also doesn't scream to me that LMA is being shopped. The timing seems terrible for it to actually improve this team.

Now things can change, obviously once the season starts. And this is my guess, that there are a lot of GMs paying attention to the situation to try to fleece RC for LMA.

Yeah, for as much value as LMA might lose from being on the team another year, he lost more by not being traded on Draft Night. Even the buyers would want an off-season to bulid around him, just as the Spurs would want one to recover from losing him. I really think that teams called the Spurs once Tim announced he was quitting, because they felt that it was a sign the team was packing it in. A lot of GMs have the same skewed lack of faith as posters on ST.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You wanted me to quote the whole article? I only posted what Jabari first reported a few minutes after what he first reported. I have no agenda.

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish but it's all based on your assumptions -- which are wrong.

These are not assumptions. These are the edited and unedited articles from the mysa website.


Then there is the tabloid nature of ESPN as he willfully parrots from the echo chamber.

Further this is the unupdated article posted on the 18th:

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

This is the updated article:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php

They both differ from the OP's quote.

So now you are saying that there is a third update not listed on his website and not logged as updated on their dateline which is their normal protocol and not listed on twitter? That is what you are claiming right?

[dabom]

Fuzzy being a faggot again. What doesn't he understand? :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

They could have done all those things. I don't think they did..

Okay well, thank you for clarifying that you understand how they could do those things. That's my point. Your opinion is subjective. All I'm saying is the truth isn't conclusive. We will never know unless a trade actually happens down the line. But even if it doesn't happen, it doesn't mean these rumors weren't true either.

[Spur|n|Austin]

According to LaMarcus he's happy with the spurs - "We made history last year. I'm winning" - Jim Rome show

[tonight...you]

Okay well, thank you for clarifying that you understand how they could do those things. That's my point. Your opinion is subjective. All I'm saying is it's not conclusive with what exactly happened.
No prob, bud. Ain't looking very good though that it did happen, when specifically talking about the Spurs intention to shop LMA right now, but like you said, objective minds will keep that thought train open, despite evidence and the entire thought process not really working out for it to be.

[MaNu4Tres]

No prob, bud. Ain't looking very good though that it did happen, when specifically talking about the Spurs intention to shop LMA right now, but like you said, objective minds will keep that thought train open, despite evidence and the entire thought process not really working out for it to be.

Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?

[tonight...you]

Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?
Why would you repeat a question I already directly answered? Do you think MacMullan didn't rip this idea off of Lowe's Crazy Predictions article?

[MaNu4Tres]

Fuzzy being a faggot again. What doesn't he understand? :lmao

He doesn't understand much, apparently.

[Hoops Czar]

Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?

Apparently they did. Joe Reinagel said so. Case closed! :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

Why would you repeat a question I already directly answered? Do you think MacMullan didn't rip this idea off of Lowe's Crazy Predictions article?

Based off her history no.

I believe she heard of something or a story, but the something was probably not that big of a problem as she may have implied. I don't think she just makes crap up.

Truth is, we won't ever know.

[MaNu4Tres]

Apparently they did. Joe Reinagel said so. Case closed! :lol

No shit. :lol

[tonight...you]

Based off her history no.

I believe she heard of something or a story, but the something was probably not that big of a problem as she may have implied. I don't think she just makes crap up.

Truth is, we won't ever know.

That is true bud. No point in shoving our shit into each other's throats, I guess. You're good peeps. :tu

[Leetonidas]

Such a weird rumor tbh. Odd that it got this big before being extinguished

[HarlemHeat37]

According to LaMarcus he's happy with the spurs - "We made history last year. I'm winning" - Jim Rome show

:lol what a fucking loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..

[gambit1990]

:lol what a fucking loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..
67 wins.

pales in comparison to a larry o brien trophy but helping to set a franchise record is making history.

[Hoops Czar]

:lol what a fucking loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..

By "We", he meant "He" made history last year. First time he's ever made it past a game 5 of the WC semis.

[HarlemHeat37]

67 wins.

pales in comparison to a larry o brien trophy but helping to set a franchise record is making history.

Loser's mentality, my nigga..

Maybe if the Spurs were the Suns or some other shitty franchise, RS wins would mean something..

[dbreiden83080]

They are not trading him this year. He's too good and we obviously need him to be even remotely competitive in the west.

[Capt Bringdown]

Soft as.

[tonight...you]

Soft as...
okay... I got this... uh... Soft as... that rabbit fur you use to rub yourself with?
No? Shit... okay... I got this...

Uh... give me another second...

[Proxy]

Then, you have LMA saying this is Kawhi Leonard's team:



"I definitely could’ve been that guy here. But going home and being close to family and being on such a talented team, that was hard to turn down.

I’ve always enjoyed being the guy. I think working so hard in Portland to earn the right to have it be my team and to have my own team over the years and try to play at a high level, that was hard-earned. So I take pride in that. I cherish those years. I don’t want to be that guy. This team is so stacked that they really don’t need me to be that guy here.

This is more Kawhi’s team and we all kind of fit in around him and try to make him better and try to make his life a little bit easier. I think if I was trying to be that guy still, then I should’ve not came. But I’m OK with trying to help Kawhi be great every night."

/thread

[james evans]

Not entirely surprised... I think it's just not brought up more often because it's so uncharacteristic of the Spurs.

Aldridge only has 2-3 years left in his prime. In the next 3 years, the league will be dominated by the Warriors and to a smaller extent, the Cavs. The Spurs then still have to deal with Parker occupying the starting PG spot (against a conference full of elite point guards he can't defend). And the Spur have to deal with Ginobili's retirement.

Better to just trade Aldridge now while he's still in his prime and try to get a younger core around Kawhi.
How many years do you think Durant and Lebron have left to play at this level? This is Druant's 10th season and Lebron's 14th. Sometimes people have to be reminded that players get older

[Chinook]

How many years do you think Durant and Lebron have left to play at this level? This is Druant's 10th season and Lebron's 14th. Sometimes people have to be reminded that players get older

Not to mention that the Spurs have a lot of young guys who can get better and will have cap space for a move or two.

[Juan]

Jabari Young is fuckin idiot. I can't believe the SAEN would run a story based on McMullen's comments. Fuckin shameful tbh

[tmtcsc]

Jabari Young is fuckin idiot.

https://media.giphy.com/media/ap6wcjRyi8HoA/giphy.gif

[TheDoctor]

Jabari Young is fuckin idiot. I can't believe the SAEN would run a story based on McMullen's comments. Fuckin shameful tbh

Yeah, he looked like an opportunistic rat and really bad. I mean, Chris Sauces Broussard bad.

[313]

Trading Aldridge would make no sense :lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

Jabari Young is fuckin idiot. I can't believe the SAEN would run a story based on McMullen's comments. Fuckin shameful tbh

[jeebus]

Jabari Young is fuckin idiot. I can't believe the SAEN would run a story based on McMullen's comments. Fuckin shameful tbh

I was happy when the cumbucket left for Philly; I guess he came crawling back when they realized he was a faggot. Of course SAEN would take him back; this is a company that still employs the autistic Jeff Mcdonald.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I was happy when the cumbucket left for Philly; I guess he came crawling back when they realized he was a faggot. Of course SAEN would take him back; this is a company that still employs the autistic Jeff Mcdonald.

Dude didn't appreciate me telling him it was a shame he ran with a story from a rumor



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[jeebus]

Dude didn't appreciate me telling him it was a shame he ran with a story from a rumor



789536099768991744

twitter is down for me due to that big cyber attack going on today. what did he say imo?

[Spur|n|Austin]

twitter is down for me due to that big cyber attack going on today. what did he say imo?

Weird, I embedded it in my above post, guess the cyber attack is messing with that too. Here's a screenshot:

https://s12.postimg.org/fqgm8u97h/Screen_Shot_2016_10_21_at_2_31_48_PM.png

[DMC]

Signing a rookie or new to the NBA guy who can fit into the system isn't easy. Signing an all star near his prime and expecting him to sacrifice contract negotiating leverage like stats is simply wishful thinking. The luster wore off when Tim retired. Who wants to be taught by a guy who never talks, and hasn't been around as long as you and has 1 All Star game under his belt?

Plus the Spurs don't need to pay max wages to anyone not giving them a legit shot to win. LMA is a good acquisition, but for SA he's not going to be the guy who gets them there. For some team that has star power already, Aldridge would be a good pick up.

[jeebus]

Weird, I embedded it in my above post, guess the cyber attack is messing with that too. Here's a screenshot:

https://s12.postimg.org/fqgm8u97h/Screen_Shot_2016_10_21_at_2_31_48_PM.png

That's a faggot way of defending himself. So he spoke to the dyke and read info off of Lowe's article; such a cuck.

[tonight...you]

That's a faggot way of defending himself. So he spoke to the dyke and read info off of Lowe's article; such a cuck.
Probably didn't even speak to her. Today's Journalism...

[024]

How many years do you think Durant and Lebron have left to play at this level? This is Druant's 10th season and Lebron's 14th. Sometimes people have to be reminded that players get older
Right.. you're talking about after 3 years. I'm talking about the next 3 years. The Warriors core is still young. Curry and Durant are 28. Thompson and Green are 26, which is only one year older than Leonard. I'm pretty sure all 4 of those players will be right in their primes in the next 3 years. Spurs can try to get younger now, wait it out a few years and maybe get back into contention as the Warriors dominance winds down.

Of course Spurs can always stay in the hunt by keeping Aldridge and pray the Warriors suffer a couple of severe injuries.

[Arcadian]

Loser's mentality, my nigga..

Maybe if the Spurs were the Suns or some other shitty franchise, RS wins would mean something..

Wanting to win games is a loser's mentality?

[kaji157]

The only trade that i would like that involves Aldridge is unreal because it also involves Parker.

Aldridge and Parker for Westbrook and Illyasova works by the numbers, and Illyasova is an expiring contract.

It can only happen if Okc season goes south early and WB demands being traded. Which would put OKC in tank now mode, or trade for veterans. If they choose the latter we might squeeze in.

Unreal to say the least.

[J_Paco]

Signing a rookie or new to the NBA guy who can fit into the system isn't easy. Signing an all star near his prime and expecting him to sacrifice contract negotiating leverage like stats is simply wishful thinking. The luster wore off when Tim retired. Who wants to be taught by a guy who never talks, and hasn't been around as long as you and has 1 All Star game under his belt?

Plus the Spurs don't need to pay max wages to anyone not giving them a legit shot to win. LMA is a good acquisition, but for SA he's not going to be the guy who gets them there. For some team that has star power already, Aldridge would be a good pick up.

LaMarcus is a veteran there is practically nothing for him to still be "taught." I doubt Timmy's decision to retire had very little to do with this rumor circulating. Especially when Duncan was 38 years old at the time of Aldridge's signing, so at best they had two seasons (which ended up being one) to play together.

LaMarcus has had limted (team) success on his Portland teams, so he probably saw the Spurs as an opportunity to really start competing for championships. No one could have foreseen the (Spurs) collapse of this past postseason, the Warriors becoming a historically great team and then signing the 2nd/3rd best player in the entire league.

He likely doesn't have a better chance of winning anywhere else except *Oklahoma City, Golden State and Cleveland. And him going to any of those cities isn't currently financially feasible.

* If they don't give up too many assets to obtain him.

[toki9]

FWIW, and interesting post from reddit:

"[–]That_Vandal_Randall 9 points 1 day ago
As someone who used to work for the spurs in a media capacity, one thing not a lot of people are saying is that teams often will feed their own beat reporters disinformation as a way of causing other teams in the league to ante up and kick tires.
In this case, we have the Celtics and their draft picks. Somebody seen as a team source (trust me, these teams know EXACTLY who their sources are, "anonymous" or not, at all times) tells Ms. McMullen, a Celtics reporter, that the Spurs are considering moving away from Aldridge, and she reports this. It's her job, and no one is breaking any rules anywhere. This news causes other teams around the league to perk their ears up. They assume the Spurs have told SOMEBODY on the Celtics and are testing the waters on what LA might fetch from that pile of picks and players Boston has. From there, other teams start quietly discussing what THEY could trade, potentially as a better offer. Eventually, one of these trade packages will either get leaked or offered outright, and from there business in proper can be done. It's manipulation. 100%."

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/58k17h/q_about_jackie_macmullan/

[Obstructed_View]

Sounds more like a common tactic for Danny Ainge. He feeds Lowe a story, who couches it as a "crazy prediction". McMullan follows up with reports that he's on the block and then says the Celtics wouldn't want him because of some vague reference to "What I heard the other day". With no details, no source, and no facts, she has placed a wedge between a player and his team, and simultaneously knocks his trade value down a notch or two so that Danny can swoop in to rescue the poor Spurs and their problem all-star with no charges of tampering.

If the reports of the McMullan apology are true, then Pop didn't bite, and doesn't appreciate tactics like that used on him. But he's a cold-war guy. Maybe the whole thing came from him and none of the fingers are pointed his way.

The truth is that if Lamarcus weren't such a baby, he wouldn't be targeted for stuff like this.

[T Park]

:lol what a fucking loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..



Franchise record in wins and home wins. But hate > facts. Par for the course here in the sludge that this place has become.

[HarlemHeat37]

Franchise record in wins and home wins. But hate > facts. Par for the course here in the sludge that this place has become.

Celebrating RS wins while playing for the most successful franchise in pro sports during the past 20 years is pretty sad:lol

Poor Tim, this is where his torch went, sadly..

[toki9]

Here is Mike Monroe commenting about the Aldridge trade rumor thing ( http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2670626-spurs-insider-meet-san-antonios-next-european-phenom-davis-bertans# ) :

"Mike Monroe2d Ago
this one was so bogus my only reference to it for The Rivard Report was to mention that there had been a specious trade rumor re. LaMarcus that was, well, specious. Spurs have had zero conversations with anyone about LaMarcus. Do they listen if teams want to talk trade about any of their players? Of course. But there is nothing going on with LaMarcus that merits a rumor like the one that surfaced.


Mike Monroe
Mike Monroe2d Ago
I"ve heard from several sources that Jackie did apologize to Spurs officials."

[RD2191]

:lmao this thread

[Chris]

Harlem's avatar :lol

[Spurs9]

http://i.imgur.com/qZykYAY.png

[spursistan]

http://i.imgur.com/qZykYAY.png
Do it GM Doc !

[sasaint]

Do it GM Doc !

Unless Blake has indicated that he will not resign, the Clippers would not agree to this trade, imho. But I sure would!

[Chillen]

http://i.imgur.com/qZykYAY.png

If I was the Spurs GM, I would do that trade! Only downside is Griffin is injury prone and Aldridge is better offensively. That is actually a trade that benefits both teams.

[TheDoctor]

http://i.imgur.com/qZykYAY.png

Damn that would be amazing :wow

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvpoR2AWEAEMb0L.jpg

ESPN knows who is the face of the Spurs..:downspin:

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Not knocking the OP, but this tweet and the thread following it was the stupidest thread for this season thus far. Have you guys fuckin forgot that LMA was the Spurs best player in the 2nd half of the season last year and the PLAYOFFS. This was absolute Bullshit. He and Kawhi play perfectly together, demonstrated by last year's performance. Now that Durant is no longer in OKC, the Spurs are top dog out West, even over GS. Barbosa, killed the Spurs last year. Bogut, shutdown the Spurs inside game last year. Barnes, A MUCH BETTER defender than Durant. Speight, better than any big off the bench they have now. Ezeli better all-a-round player than Zaza, no joke and he was their bench C.

The bright spot for the Warriors last year was their bench and they completely gutted for that pussy player chucking player in Durant. And it's showing tonight.

Spurs are showing they are the best team out West tonight. Thanks Durant, thanks for leaving OKC and forcing GS to gut their bench for your soft defense chucking shooting ass. Kawhi still owning your ass as usual.

[TheDoctor]

Bump cause I like controversy tbh

[timtonymanu]

Really wish they found a trade for this career loser

[RD2191]

Get this sack of shit outta here.

[Robz4000]

Just salary dump him at this point.

[Chinook]

Just salary dump him at this point.

Team really obviously needs him. The DeRozan-led team wouldn't even make the playoffs. Spurs are an elite team when he plays well and a below-average team when he plays poorly. That's evidence of his value, not of his worthlessness.

[Chinook]

Honestly, it's pretty stupid to be pissed about LMA after a loss to the Rockets when he pretty much beat them by himself to give the Spurs the WCSF win in 2017

[Shakril]

Team really obviously needs him. The DeRozan-led team wouldn't even make the playoffs. Spurs are an elite team when he plays well and a below-average team when he plays poorly. That's evidence of his value, not of his worthlessness.

I disagree. I still need to see a game, were LMA was the reason spurs won this season. If seen it from DDR, Rudy and the Bench. But not from LMA.

[RD2191]

Honestly, it's pretty stupid to be pissed about LMA after a loss to the Rockets when he pretty much beat them by himself to give the Spurs the WCSF win in 2017

He's a scrub. Fuck him.

[Chinook]

I disagree. I still need to see a game, were LMA was the reason spurs won this season. If seen it from DDR, Rudy and the Bench. But not from LMA.

I assume you missed the whole homestand then?

[DAF86]

Honestly, it's pretty stupid to be pissed about LMA after a loss to the Rockets when he pretty much beat them by himself to give the Spurs the WCSF win in 2017

Still trying to sell the idea that Aldridge won that game when hang over Harden couldn't lead the Rockets offense for more than 80 pts. :lol

[DAF86]

A Richard Jefferson led Spurs would have won that game vs drunk Harden. :lol

[Shakril]

I assume you missed the whole homestand then?

I watched every game, in none of those LMA was the gamechanger. Yes he made his 20 some points, but also gave up much on defense.

[Chinook]

I watched every game, in none of those LMA was the gamechanger. Yes he made his 20 some points, but also gave up much on defense.

... I see you're not trying to be serious then.

[Chinook]

Still trying to sell the idea that Aldridge won that game when hang over Harden couldn't lead the Rockets offense for more than 80 pts. :lol

It's not "clinging" to the idea. It was right back then, and nothing that happens subsequently alters that. Aldridge could have become the worst player in the league starting with the Warriors series that year, and he still would have won the Houston series.

[Shakril]

... I see you're not trying to be serious then.


I doubt that you know what the word "serious" means. Otherwise you wouldn't have used it and gave an argument to help your case. LMA is a liabilty on defense, and slows down the offense. Today it was very apparent. He may once was an allstar, but not anymore.

[RC_Drunkford]

Team really obviously needs him. The DeRozan-led team wouldn't even make the playoffs. Spurs are an elite team when he plays well and a below-average team when he plays poorly. That's evidence of his value, not of his worthlessness.

The problem is people here are used to Tim Duncan who's the best player ever at that position, so they expect Aldridge to be Tim which is unrealistic. He's actually undervalued

[DAF86]

It's not "clinging" to the idea. It was right back then, and nothing that happens subsequently alters that. Aldridge could have become the worst player in the league starting with the Warriors series that year, and he still would have won the Houston series.

No, that's the thing: he didn't win shit. What won that game was the Rockets offense being absolutely pathetic. Aldridge could have sit that game and the Spurs would have still won by double digits.

[timtonymanu]

No, that's the thing: he didn't win shit. What won that game was the Rockets offense being absolutely pathetic. Aldridge could have sit that game and the Spurs would have still won by double digits.

Basically the other team has to melt down for LMA to take over. Got it.

[SAGirl]

Bump cause I like controversy tbh
We missed you. Merry Xmas

[Prime BEEF]

Pop won’t trade LMA but he should. Think this trade would improve both teams.

LMA, Mills, Forbes, Toronto pick to Boston for

Rozier, Hayward, Morris, Sacramento pick

[Slippy]

I doubt that you know what the word "serious" means. Otherwise you wouldn't have used it and gave an argument to help your case. LMA is a liabilty on defense, and slows down the offense. [/B]Today it was very apparent. He may once was an allstar, but not anymore.

So you still not being serious

[rogcl1]

I disagree. I still need to see a game, were LMA was the reason spurs won this season. If seen it from DDR, Rudy and the Bench. But not from LMA.

Moron.

[rogcl1]

Lets keep it real. They chose LMA over Klaw

don't get it twisted.

Sure, twist up another one.

[Prime BEEF]

LMA, Mills, Belinelli, both 1st rd picks to New York for

Knox, Porzingis, Kanter (1yr left@$18M), Hezonja (1yr left@$6.5M)

Get 2 good young talents and the kanter/hezonja expiring contracts would allow the spurs to go after a good free agent this summer. I’d go after Vucevic.

Next year’s lineup:
Murray/Forbes/White
DeRozan/Walker
Knox/Gay
Porzingis/Bertans
Vucevic/Poetlt/Gasol

[HarlemHeat37]

^^Why would the Knicks even listen to that offer?:lol

[Dex]

^^Why would the Knicks even listen to that offer?:lol

They wouldn't.

[vy65]

Should also ask for Prime Ewing, Houston, and Starks while you’re at it

[r0drig0lac]

Should also ask for Prime Ewing, Houston, and Starks while you’re at it

2018 Pearl Monroe would probably start on pg for us tbh

[phxspurfan]

I disagree. I still need to see a game, were LMA was the reason spurs won this season. If seen it from DDR, Rudy and the Bench. But not from LMA.

He literally went right after Jokic just this last game. Not sure your eyes are screwed in right

[phxspurfan]

Should also ask for Prime Ewing, Houston, and Starks while you’re at it

Ewing/Houston maybe. But Starks is untouchable :wakeup

[gambit1990]

if porzingis could still play like he used to and was willing to sign an extension then i'd trade anyone on the roster for him.

[Ignazzz]

if porzingis could still play like he used to and was willing to sign an extension then i'd trade anyone on the roster for him.

nobody calls spurs for Trade with KP involved
why are You dreamer?
please Guys stop to make impissible scenarios
any Lillards Davis Kps or even Carrolls ;) possible for spurs
never ever ;)
watching& reading spurstalk for ages and all time same shit.

[Shakril]

He literally went right after Jokic just this last game. Not sure your eyes are screwed in right

Maybe you should check the Date i have written it. It was before the Denver Game. Maybe your eyes need some examination. :rolleyes

[phxspurfan]

Maybe you should check the Date i have written it. It was before the Denver Game. Maybe your eyes need some examination. :rolleyes

No one gives a shit about random alt/gnsf post dates. Go cry on reddit if you want more attention.

[Shakril]

No one gives a shit about random alt/gnsf post dates. Go cry on reddit if you want more attention.

If you are to lazy to use your brain, then please dont respond to my posts and grow up.