LaMarcus Work Ethic - Tim Duncan story

[tmtcsc]

This morning Jason Garrett of Arriosti Sports Therapy shared an interesting story regarding Aldridge on Mike Taylor's radio show. He said Tim and Lamarcus were working out together (doing one on one drills) and Lamarcus was exhausted. LA stopped playing and said something like "Man, I don't know how you do it". Tim said, "If you want to be playing when you're 39, you gotta work. Let's go." LaMarcus said "Nah, I'm done" and walked off the court.

We all know that Tim was/is a gym rat and one of the greatest of all time but I think this reflects poorly on Aldridge. Sometimes the body doesn't follow the mind and you end up being a blowhard. I wonder if he really he wants to be great or if he's willing to work for it.

[GSH]

I think we can all agree that he's no Tim Duncan.
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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Regardless if this is 100% true, which in context probably isn't, it's not fair to hold everyone to Tim Duncan's work ethic standards.

[TheGreatYacht]

Is this your new schtick?

[tmtcsc]

Is this your new schtick?

Yes. The schtick where I refer to Manu as Manure and the bane of the Spurs existence was taken already. I have to choose a player to blame for the Spurs downfall and sadly TP and Manu were quickly snapped up. Hell, some people in here criticize both Manu and Leonard for the Spurs being pretenders and lottery bound. Can you believe that?

The only thing that would have made my thread better is if what I heard wasn't on the public airwaves or readily available by podcast. Then you could doubt it ever happened. Damn it. I'll try harder next time.

[MaNu4Tres]

This morning Jason Garrett of Arriosti Sports Therapy shared an interesting story regarding Aldridge on Mike Taylor's radio show. He said Tim and Lamarcus were working out together (doing one on one drills) and Lamarcus was exhausted. LA stopped playing and said something like "Man, I don't know how you do it". Tim said, "If you want to be playing when you're 39, you gotta work. Let's go." LaMarcus said "Nah, I'm done" and walked off the court.

We all know that Tim was/is a gym rat and one of the greatest of all time but I think this reflects poorly on Aldridge. Sometimes the body doesn't follow the mind and you end up being a blowhard. I wonder if he really he wants to be great or if he's willing to work for it.

You can tell by the way he came into camp.

It's the second straight year he came into camp out of shape. He looks doughy, once again. Last year, he came into camp out of shape and looked like he was playing in sand at the beginning of the year. To his credit, he got leaner as the season progressed. Even if he got leaner as the season progressed, it's not a good look if your " leader" shows no signs of dedication in the off-season.

This story further backs up my theory that Spurs' can't be happy with his work ethic.

I've been pointing this out to people on twitter.

[Mel_13]

Yes. The schtick where I refer to Manu as Manure and the bane of the Spurs existence was taken already.

:lol

[Keepin' it real]

Regardless if this is 100% true, which in context probably isn't, it's not fair to hold everyone to Tim Duncan's work ethic standards.

Exactly.

People are like GASP! he's not as driven or committed as Timmy! Oh noes!

News flash: no one is as driven or committed as Timmy. Everyone will pale in comparison.

[tmtcsc]

When a 39 year old man on 1 leg outworks you, and you want to be the face of the franchise, you got problems.

[tmtcsc]

Exactly.

People are like GASP! he's not as driven or committed as Timmy! Oh noes!

News flash: no one is as driven or committed as Timmy. Everyone will pale in comparison.

Some are just as committed to being great as Tim was. Kawhi Leonard puts in the work and the stories have been well-chronicled. Let's not go overboard with Tim. He was the GOAT for PF's and one of the best ever at any position, but he doesn't own "work ethic". Kobe Bryant's work ethic was legendary.

[MaNu4Tres]

When a 39 year old man on 1 leg outworks you, and you want to be the face of the franchise, you got problems.

If Spurs don't trade him this year, his value will decline even more next year. As he will essentially be a one year rental because he's more than likely opting out and signing a max deal for 37 million per season ( thanks Chinook).

If Spurs hang on to him, will it be smart to give the max to 33/34 year old LaMarcus -- who proved to have poor work ethic in his two first off-seasons with the team?

Whether they admit it or not, the Spurs should be shopping him.

[MaNu4Tres]

Exactly.

People are like GASP! he's not as driven or committed as Timmy! Oh noes!

News flash: no one is as driven or committed as Timmy. Everyone will pale in comparison.

It's inexcusable to not have work ethic when you get paid the max to be the " leader" of a top 5 team with championship aspirations.

A poor work ethic is not the sign of a winner.

[BD24]

Yea because Tim Duncan is totally the type to let the media know about training sessions with a teammate. This seems totally legit :rolleyes

[Chinook]

So the max for LMA would be like 37 per in 2018. So that's one thing. The other thing is that no one should care about LMA's value going down, because the Spurs would gain that value by having him on their roster this season. It's like lamenting that your car isn't as valuable as it was when you bought it two years ago.

[spursistan]

And Harlem was accused of driving a shtick when he said the same thing as early as last pre-season :lol...He is clearly not completely out of shape, but certainly not as toned as Kawhi or sculpted in the Tim/Manu mold..

[MaNu4Tres]

The other thing is that no one should care about LMA's value going down, because the Spurs would gain that value by having him on their roster this season. It's like lamenting that your car isn't as valuable as it was when you bought it two years ago.

Spurs won't get as much value in a deal if they wait til next year. He'll be a one year rental to a lot of teams before he opts out.

[tmtcsc]

Yea because Tim Duncan is totally the type to let the media know about training sessions with a teammate. This seems totally legit :rolleyes

Right, because media, trainers (the guy who told the story) have never "seen" Tim Duncan work out. I guess Tim's legendary work ethic is all hearsay because no one has ever witnessed it. Man, that was a stupid response on your part and not well thought out.

[sasaint]

And Harlem was accused of driving a shtick when he said the same thing as early as last pre-season :lol...He is clearly not completely out of shape, but certainly not as toned as Kawhi or sculpted in the Tim/Manu mold..

Don't leave out Patty.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I live by the motto: don't listen to anything Jason Garrett says.

[tmtcsc]

Spurs won't get as much value in a deal if they wait til next year. He'll be a one year rental to a lot of teams before he opts out.

The good news is that the Spurs have total control of the situation right now. UNLESS he becomes a cancer to the team and starts to have a negative impact, I think the Spurs will not look to trade him. They will definitely listen to offers and would probably move anyone not named Kawhi Leonard if a good offer comes their way.

[BD24]

Right, because media, trainers (the guy who told the story) have never "seen" Tim Duncan work out. I guess Tim's legendary work ethic is all hearsay because no one has ever witnessed it. Man, that was a stupid response on your part and not well thought out.
Whatever you want to think. The story is BS and you know it. Media throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks per par.

[GSH]

When a 39 year old man on 1 leg outworks you, and you want to be the face of the franchise, you got problems.


You've been a good poster here for a long time, and you may have the best avatar in ST history. But don't make such a big deal out of one story. Maybe LMA wanted to look fresh for his HEB commercial that afternoon. Maybe he wanted to get away before Tim insisted that he come over to play video games... again. Maybe he had an erection lasting more than 4 hours, and he had to notify a physician.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Pop would like LMA to do all the things Tim Duncan did. And there's no doubt that Tim's dedication and work ethic were a part of his greatness. But there's a gap between that and saying that the Spurs are looking to trade him. Because whoever they could get in return would not be as good as LMA is, and they almost certainly wouldn't have Timmy's work either.

LMA is a very good player, compared to most of the others in the league. If the Spurs are looking for greatness, they're going to have to draft it.

[Chinook]

Spurs won't get as much value in a deal if they wait til next year. He'll be a one year rental to a lot of teams before he opts out.

Yeah, but that's not a bad thing. They'll get value out of actually having him on the roster instead. They're not losing anything, really. They're just changing the ratio of future value to present value.

[tmtcsc]

Whatever you want to think. The story is BS and you know it. Media throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks per par.

BS and I know it? I believe the story. Why would the guy lie? He's not in the media, he's a person who has access to the players because he helps with training and rehab. He's a guest on the sports talk show and witnessed it all himself. He doesn't have an agenda against LaMarcus. It was a side-story / commentary during the guy's segment.

We all know Tim worked his ass off and did so more than most players on the team. "Most players" don't talk about wanting to be the face of a franchise or "the man", and if they do, they earn it by putting in the work. LA is one of the best PF's in the league (regardless of work ethic) but if he is becoming a distraction and cancer to the team because of his selfish desires, he needs to be moved.

[MaNu4Tres]

Yeah, but that's not a bad thing. They'll get value out of actually having him on the roster instead. They're not losing anything, really. They're just changing the ratio of future value to present value.

It is a problem if they don't intend on moving forward with him after next year. They may be forced to let him go for nothing, or settle for much less value than they can get this year.

[Chinook]

It is a problem if they don't intend on moving forward with him after next year. They may be forced to let him go for nothing, or settle for much less value than they can get this year.

No, it's really not. They probably don't intend to go forward with Pau either after 2017. I doubt they're too concerned with moving him for assets in 2018 right now.

[MaNu4Tres]

No, it's really not. They probably don't intend to go forward with Pau either after 2017. I doubt they're too concerned with moving him for assets in 2018 right now.

With Aldridge though you can net back assets to help right now and the future. They'd be foolish to not try to maximize their returns when they can -- ONLY IF they intend on NOT moving forward w/ Aldridge after his current deal.

Pau doesn't have value that's remotely close to Aldridge right now.

[Chinook]

With Aldridge though you can net back assets to help right now and the future. They'd be foolish to not try to maximize their returns when they can -- ONLY IF they intend on NOT moving forward w/ Aldridge after his current deal. Pau doesn't have value that's remotely close to Aldridge right now.I think you're overlooking the obvious here. The Spurs are contenders with Aldridge. That's why they signed him. They didn't sign him because they wanted him on the team in 2018-2019.So long as the Spurs are still a top team in the league, they are getting full value out of Aldridge. He's not some bond sitting a vault somewhere depreciating. He's a tool they're getting great use out of. It's like I said with the car: Of course it loses trade-value as time goes by, but you are using value by driving it. If the Spurs have two 67-win seasons and then he walks, that's almost certainly better than what they were going to get in a trade for him.

[MaNu4Tres]

I think you're overlooking the obvious here. The Spurs are contenders with Aldridge. That's why they signed him. They didn't sign him because they wanted him on the team in 2018-2019.So long as the Spurs are still a top team in the league, they are getting full value out of Aldridge. He's not some bond sitting a vault somewhere depreciating. He's a tool they're getting great use out of. It's like I said with the car: Of course it loses trade-value as time goes by, but you are using value by driving it. If the Spurs have two 67-win seasons and then he walks, that's almost certainly better than what they were going to get in a trade for him.

Yes, I know why they signed him at the time.

They signed him to be part of a championship team and bridge over the Duncan era to the Kawhi era more smoothly and still contend ( that's obvious).

However, time can change things and perceptions they may have can change. Seeing him come into camp for the second straight year looking doughy and out of shape has to irk PATFO to a degree-- even though they'd never admit it publicly. Reading books about successful individuals, leaders, business owners makes me believe LaMarcus' actions, or lack-thereof, in the off-season contradicts why they signed him. Add in the fact that since the Spurs signed him, the Warriors have had internal improvements from all of their core and separated themselves significantly from the rest of the West and that was before adding Durant. Many variables have changed since summer of 15'.

But yes, Spurs still have value with him on the roster by being a top 5 team in the league with him, however they still have a 2nd tier ceiling. IMO

And I'm sure they can remain a top 5- 7 team in the league and have a 2nd tier ceiling without him if the right deal materializes -- all while getting an asset or a pick to help expedite the growth the Spurs need to gain ground on the one tier above them.

Time changes things.

[GSH]

but if he is becoming a distraction and cancer to the team because of his selfish desires, he needs to be moved.


IF he's doing that? He needs to be moved. The good news is, if he is becoming a distraction and a cancer, the Spurs won't hesitate to move him.

I don't see any proof that he's becoming a cancer. Not from some 30 second discussion, led by a Boston Celtics homer reporter. Not from some overheard conversation in a restaurant. Not from some story about him being the first to quit a one-on-one session with Tim. And not from a bunch of speculation on ST.

One thing is for sure: if LMA has a beef with the Spurs, he hasn't taken it public like Jax. And if Pop has a beef with LMA, he hasn't made any sarcastic remarks in interviews about it, the way he has about some other players in the past - not even joking comments, like he does sometimes. So I'm thinking that the only people distracted by this are the ones outside the Spurs locker room.

But, yeah. If he's a cancer and a distraction, the Spurs won't hesitate to move him, even if it means getting less value than they would like.

[Chinook]

Yes, I know why they signed him at the time.

They signed him to be part of a championship team and bridge over the Duncan era to the Kawhi era more smoothly and still contend ( that's obvious).

And Year One was a success. So if they just keep doing that, they are getting full value out of him.


However, time can change things and perceptions they may have can change. Seeing him come into camp for the second straight year looking doughy and out of shape has to irk PATFO to a degree-- even though they'd never admit it publicly. Reading books about successful individuals, leaders, business owners makes me believe LaMarcus' actions, or lack-thereof, in the off-season contradicts why they signed him.

I think you're mapping your projections of him onto them. There is zero indication that LMA's conditioning irks them. You're talking about a team that gave Diaw an extra few days away from the team to pretty much just chill out. A team that just signed a player who's open about not working out. Aldridge has spent his career being a heavy-load player and producing like an All-Star. I haven't seen him look skinny in a decade. I doubt Pop was expecting him to be something he's never been, especially considering how little they are paying him.


Add in the fact that since the Spurs signed him, the Warriors have had internal improvements from all of their core and separated themselves significantly from the rest of the West and that was before adding Durant. Many variables have changed since summer of 15'.

Not really. Their response was to sign Gasol. So it's clear they aren't packing it in.


But yes, Spurs still have value with him on the roster by being a top 5 team in the league with him, however they still have a 2nd tier ceiling. IMO

And you can have your opinion, but that doesn't mean much. Even if the Spurs can't be the Warriors in a fully healthy competition, only a Chicken Little would say they can't be Cleveland. So any little bit that the Warriors lose through injury or strife opens the door for the Spurs. A championship* much better than "assets".


And I'm sure they can remain a top 5- 7 team in the league and have a 2nd tier ceiling without him if the right deal materializes -- all while getting an asset or a pick to help expedite the growth the Spurs need to gain ground on the one tier above them.

The Spurs going from potentially the second-best team in the league to the seventh-best is a huge drop-off, especially for that being "the right deal". You don't waste everyone's time with that (meaning the Spurs players under contract, not posters on ST). You have a top-seven player in his prime. You don't take a step back just because he'll be less valuable if you want to move him the next year.


Time changes things.

Yes, but a 67-win season, a new HoFer and your best player showing immense internal improvement doesn't warrant any change.

[TheDoctor]

...Seeing him come into camp for the second straight year looking doughy and out of shape has to irk PATFO to a degree-- even though they'd never admit it publicly. Reading books about successful individuals, leaders, business owners makes me believe LaMarcus' actions, or lack-thereof, in the off-season contradicts why they signed him. Add in the fact that since the Spurs signed him, the Warriors have had internal improvements from all of their core and separated themselves significantly from the rest of the West and that was before adding Durant. Many variables have changed since summer of 15'.

1) You seem to have made a lot of heavy assumptions out of this shitty rumors tbh. Looking from outside, as a fan, I still can’t think of any believable scenario where LMA would want out of the Spurs already or PATFO being mad at him for just some xtra pounds. To me the dude looks the same! Also the fact that he left a lot of dough on the table leaving Portland to get closer to home, to his family and play for a better franchise it just makes no sense at all for him wanting out.

2) Neither LaMarcus nor the Spurs can do anything about what the Worriers can or can't do but compete and contend. As of now the Spurs are heavy contenders, top 2 team in the West (per NBA GMs survey (http://www.nba.com/gmsurvey/2016)) and that was the main reason to sign Aldridge, to stay competitive in the foreseeable future.

[Keepin' it real]

Doughy ...

Some gripping analysis here.

[mywastedlife900]

Is this your new schtick?


Yes. The schtick where I refer to Manu as Manure and the bane of the Spurs existence was taken already. I have to choose a player to blame for the Spurs downfall and sadly TP and Manu were quickly snapped up. Hell, some people in here criticize both Manu and Leonard for the Spurs being pretenders and lottery bound. Can you believe that?

The only thing that would have made my thread better is if what I heard wasn't on the public airwaves or readily available by podcast. Then you could doubt it ever happened. Damn it. I'll try harder next time.

TheGreatNot. Owned. Obliterated. Belittled. Lets all laugh at his pathetic photoshop skills and constant attempts at relevance.

[tonight...you]

TheGreatNot. Owned. Obliterated. Belittled. Lets all laugh at his pathetic photoshop skills and constant attempts at relevance.
:wow

[DMC]

If Tim had been working that hard on Amy's twat she wouldn't have bailed. Just sayin'.

[kuato]

Exactly.

People are like GASP! he's not as driven or committed as Timmy! Oh noes!

News flash: no one is as driven or committed as Timmy. Everyone will pale in comparison.

Not even Manu?

[DPG21920]

Spurs won't get as much value in a deal if they wait til next year. He'll be a one year rental to a lot of teams before he opts out.

Let him opt out then. Free's up cap space and that's valuable. He's worth his value on the court at his current deal. By this logic, if the spurs aren't happy with him, they won't sign him and let him walk. If they sign him, then all of this isn't true.

[MaNu4Tres]

Let him opt out then. Free's up cap space and that's valuable. He's worth his value on the court at his current deal. By this logic, if the spurs aren't happy with him, they won't sign him and let him walk. If they sign him, then all of this isn't true.

The space won't be as valuable as you're implying. 22 million in 18' will fetch a role player, not a star. Sure you can combine Parkers and Aldridges' money and fetch a star, but the chances to signing one is very small anyway. It's a long shot and something you shouldn't be willing to bank on.

They'll never admit it, but if they've been disappointed in regards to work ethic, or his character after a year, then they sure won't be willing to pay him 37 million per season with a max deal when he's 33/34 years old. If that is the current case (and I don't know this-- pure speculation), then it makes more sense to get returns now and trade for a package of players who signed contracts before the cap spike plus an asset(s) in the near future. There's more value with players on contracts pre cap spike per dollar. In 18' the price for the same talent will double. Having a player like Crowder, Knight, Butler, or Bradley under contract for their market value of 15' will optimize cap space to add talent as soon as next off-season when Gasol may opt out and Manus' contract is off the books. Plus they'd add an asset in a 1st round pick to help expedite the growth towards the Warriors.

[HarlemHeat37]

Yes. The schtick where I refer to Manu as Manure and the bane of the Spurs existence was taken already.

http://theclownshow.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/KansasFanDunkReaction.gif

[YGWHI]

For same strange reason we never heard rumors questioning Kawhi's work ethic. I wonder why.

After all, if media spread false rumors they could fly about other Spurs' players...not just LMA.

[MoSpur02]

I don't see why that guy from Arosti would lie. He's been involved with the Spurs for some time now and has shared stories about Spurs players injuries and that kind of stuff. There is nothing wrong with him walking off the court depending on how long that workout went. It could have been a long workout and maybe Aldridge was out of it by that time. Maybe it wasn't that long. We don't really know. I don't think everyone on the team has to be a gym rat like Duncan and Leonard. However, for some reason when I see Aldridge, the words "gym rat" don't come to mind. Not seeing he looks lazy. I think he's the type of guy who does just enough. That's not a bad thing, but if you left Portland because you wanted to be the "man" and already complaining (as reports say) about Leonard being the "man" here, then you should out work a 39 year old Duncan. You should work harder than Leonard in the gym if you wanna be the "man."

[MaNu4Tres]

If Spurs don't trade him this year, his value will decline even more next year. As he will essentially be a one year rental because he's more than likely opting out and signing a max deal for 37 million per season ( thanks Chinook).

If Spurs hang on to him, will it be smart to give the max to 33/34 year old LaMarcus -- who proved to have poor work ethic in his two first off-seasons with the team?

Whether they admit it or not, the Spurs should be shopping him.


Spurs won't get as much value in a deal if they wait til next year. He'll be a one year rental to a lot of teams before he opts out.



It is a problem if they don't intend on moving forward with him after next year. They may be forced to let him go for nothing, or settle for much less value than they can get this year.



With Aldridge though you can net back assets to help right now and the future. They'd be foolish to not try to maximize their returns when they can -- ONLY IF they intend on NOT moving forward w/ Aldridge after his current deal.

Pau doesn't have value that's remotely close to Aldridge right now.

If only they traded him a year ago...

[RD2191]

If Spurs don't trade him this year, his value will decline even more next year. As he will essentially be a one year rental because he's more than likely opting out and signing a max deal for 37 million per season ( thanks Chinook).

If Spurs hang on to him, will it be smart to give the max to 33/34 year old LaMarcus -- who proved to have poor work ethic in his two first off-seasons with the team?

Whether they admit it or not, the Spurs should be shopping him.


It is a problem if they don't intend on moving forward with him after next year. They may be forced to let him go for nothing, or settle for much less value than they can get this year.


With Aldridge though you can net back assets to help right now and the future. They'd be foolish to not try to maximize their returns when they can -- ONLY IF they intend on NOT moving forward w/ Aldridge after his current deal.

Pau doesn't have value that's remotely close to Aldridge right now.

Truth bombs.

[Proxy]

If only they traded him a year ago...

props, nostradamus shit

[TimDunkem]

Lol I didn't want to believe M4T was right, but he was. LMA doesn't have it and it would've been better to drop his ass last year.

:depressed

[skulls138]

It's a pity, I want him to do well. He's got good size and talent and good defensively. Unfortunately he doesn't have it attitudinally. He doesn't want to bang down low and he seems to be sensitive to criticism. Seems to be fixable but he has to be a team player.

[playbonner15]

It might also have something to do with his existing heart condition. Better for LMA to retire or just go somewhere where he can relax/or pad his stats

[RD2191]

It's a pity, I want him to do well. He's got good size and talent and good defensively. Unfortunately he doesn't have it attitudinally. He doesn't want to bang down low and he seems to be sensitive to criticism. Seems to be fixable but he has to be a team player.

He doesn't want to earn it. He wants to win but he wants it the easy way.

[tholdren]

He doesn't want to earn it. He wants to win but he wants it the easy way.

Oh hi lebron, durant, wade, etc etc etc... you can win or you can win with integrity. Something thata majority of this era doesnt understand. #cheatcode

[tmtcsc]

He doesn't want to earn it. He wants to win but he wants it the easy way.

https://media.giphy.com/media/7zrQ7wu4HIR3y/giphy.gif

[therealtruth]

He can't really gain it at this stage. It's one of those things you have or don't have. His sorry playoff performance should have motivated him to work even harder to improve his game. Not complaining about how he fits the team.

[Taking it to the Hole]

The thing is it seems like he doesn't want to improve his game. He thinks he has reached the peak of his development but what is going to happen as he gets older. Players that stay in the league alter their game. I don't see him doing this. He just wants to make as much money as he can, work as little as possible, and then hang it up. Even as a teammate, I don't know how he meshed with the team. Going forward, I hope he approaches next season with something to prove to his doubters but he seems content in his situation. It is just laziness. Pure and simple. Why work when you don't have to?

[rasuo214]

Too lazy to stay in shape and too lazy or too dumb to learn the offense. In his 2nd year and he still isn't sure when to pass or shot. Meanwhile you have other guys who learn it right away (at least the basics). He needs a team that will cater to him.

[gospursgojas]

This morning Jason Garrett of Arriosti Sports Therapy shared an interesting story regarding Aldridge on Mike Taylor's radio show. He said Tim and Lamarcus were working out together (doing one on one drills) and Lamarcus was exhausted. LA stopped playing and said something like "Man, I don't know how you do it". Tim said, "If you want to be playing when you're 39, you gotta work. Let's go." LaMarcus said "Nah, I'm done" and walked off the court. He then quickly un-followed @Tim Duncan on Twitter and followed long time spurs sponsor, @Taco Cabana.

We all know that Tim was/is a gym rat and one of the greatest of all time but I think this reflects poorly on Aldridge. Sometimes the body doesn't follow the mind and you end up being a blowhard. I wonder if he really he wants to be great or if he's willing to work for it.

Should have seent it then

[gambit1990]

Yes. The schtick where I refer to Manu as Manure and the bane of the Spurs existence was taken already.

http://theclownshow.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/KansasFanDunkReaction.gif
:lmao

[jag]

This thread is not a good look for Chinook, tbh

[tmtcsc]

IF he's doing that? He needs to be moved. The good news is, if he is becoming a distraction and a cancer, the Spurs won't hesitate to move him.

I don't see any proof that he's becoming a cancer.

1. Not from some 30 second discussion, led by a Boston Celtics homer reporter.
2. Not from some overheard conversation in a restaurant.
3. Not from some story about him being the first to quit a one-on-one session with Tim.
4. And not from a bunch of speculation on ST.


Ouch. Looks like most of those occurrences may have been accurate.



One thing is for sure: if LMA has a beef with the Spurs, he hasn't taken it public like Jax.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCUI8MJfMnc




And if Pop has a beef with LMA, he hasn't made any sarcastic remarks in interviews about it, the way he has about some other players in the past - not even joking comments, like he does sometimes.

:lol :lol He wasn't being sarcastic or joking at the end of the year. After Leonard went down, Aldridge fucking quit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMsPOFRMZk



But, yeah. If he's a cancer and a distraction, the Spurs won't hesitate to move him, even if it means getting less value than they would like.

Sometimes its easier to be cynical than realistic. I'm constantly doubting. In fact, I'm already prepared for him to be on the roster and actually have a good year. If CP3 does come here, its almost a lock.

[tmtcsc]

This thread is not a good look for Chinook, tbh

Not a good look for a lot of people.

[dbreiden83080]

Yea because Tim Duncan is totally the type to let the media know about training sessions with a teammate. This seems totally legit :rolleyes

He didn't do an interview and relay the story. It's a story from somebody that might know that is around the team. Seems legit to me.

[cutewizard]

tamad

[hater]

Whatever you want to think. The story is BS and you know it. Media throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks per par.

ElKingFailer2?

[pgardn]

He doesn't want to earn it. He wants to win but he wants it the easy way.

I just removed this poster from my ignore list.
Exactly.

Even though you got an awfully talented GS team, no laying down.

Sean continues to tell the story of playing Duncan in video games and crushing poor Timmy. Tim still wanted to play everytime and continued to lose. Tim eventually beat him. Dogged determination. Pound the Fckn Rock.

[Ice009]

I can't believe that I didn't even post in this thread when it first came up. I wonder what I was thinking not commenting. This thread should have blown up at the time. I guess a lot of us didn't want to believe it or pay much attention to. it also doesn't seem made up because the guy that said it claims he saw it first hand.

[UZER]

Jason Garret from Arosti just retold this story in May too.

[dbreiden83080]

When a 39 year old man on 1 leg outworks you, and you want to be the face of the franchise, you got problems.

It's true. And Tim had that all time level of great mental toughness. The kind that bird, magic, Jordan had. Very rare to have that.

[tholdren]

I just removed this poster from my ignore list.
Exactly.

Even though you got an awfully talented GS team, no laying down.

Sean continues to tell the story of playing Duncan in video games and crushing poor Timmy. Tim still wanted to play everytime and continued to lose. Tim eventually beat him. Dogged determination. Pound the Fckn Rock.

Irony. Post about being soft, and you use ignore.... you are the durant of spurstalk