The most dangerous thing I get about this Election

[dabom]

is that the GOP can nominate this man for president, and at least 40% of voters are still gonna vote for him.

[spurraider21]

less than 2% of trump supporters are under 30. 35% of his supporters are senior citizens

that sort of voter is a dying breed. might take a few more election cycles but they're in decline

[baseline bum]

less than 2% of trump supporters are under 30. 35% of his supporters are senior citizens

that sort of voter is a dying breed. might take a few more election cycles but they're in decline

Wow, you have a source for that 2% stat?

[baseline bum]

Oh ok, here is a source for spurraider21's claim, from realclearpolitics:



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/09/who_are_trumps_supporters.html

In terms of demographics, Trump’s supporters are a bit older, less educated and earn less than the average Republican. Slightly over half are women. About half are between 45 and 64 years of age, with another 34 percent over 65 years old and less than 2 percent younger than 30. One half of his voters have a high school education or less, compared to 19 percent with a college or post-graduate degree. Slightly over a third of his supporters earn less than $50,000 per year, while 11 percent earn over $100,000 per year. Definitely not country club Republicans, but not terribly unusual either.

[DMC]

Any GOP primary winner is going to get a lot of straight ticket support. Party loyalty over common fucking sense is the most dangerous thing humans face. It's how oppressive governments develop.

[DarrinS]

His nomination couldn't have worked out better for Hillary. That's who they wanted to be the nominee. The timing of the released "grab her by the pussy" audio is interesting. Why not release that during the primaries?


"Right now I am petrified that Hillary is almost totally dependent on Republicans nominating Trump," Budowsky sent to Podesta on March 13, 2016. "She has huge endemic political weaknesses that she would be wise to rectify ... even a clown like Ted Cruz would be an even money bet to beat and this scares the hell of out me."

[Will Hunting]

less than 2% of trump supporters are under 30. 35% of his supporters are senior citizens

that sort of voter is a dying breed. might take a few more election cycles but they're in decline
People always say this but ignore the fact that generations have always gotten more conservative as they age. The "greatest generation ever" went from having a top marginal tax rate of 90+% in the 1950s to now supporting a candidate who wants the top marginal rate at 15%.

[DarrinS]

People always say this but ignore the fact that generations have always gotten more conservative as they age. The "greatest generation ever" went from having a top marginal tax rate of 90+% in the 1950s to now supporting a candidate who wants the top marginal rate at 15%.


Lol 90% tax rate. Pretty sure no one actually paid that rate.

[spurraider21]

People always say this but ignore the fact that generations have always gotten more conservative as they age. The "greatest generation ever" went from having a top marginal tax rate of 90+% in the 1950s to now supporting a candidate who wants the top marginal rate at 15%.
And America has gotten more progressive as a whole with time

[baseline bum]

People always say this but ignore the fact that generations have always gotten more conservative as they age. The "greatest generation ever" went from having a top marginal tax rate of 90+% in the 1950s to now supporting a candidate who wants the top marginal rate at 15%.

The greatest generation is mostly dead and those left are in their 90s now, I don't think they're really Trump's base. His base is baby boomers, who have this popular mythology as a generation of weed smoking free love hippies, but they voted Nixon and Reagan.

[Aztecfan03]

Any GOP primary winner is going to get a lot of straight ticket support. Party loyalty over common fucking sense is the most dangerous thing humans face. It's how oppressive governments develop.
and its worse in the democrat party than the republican party.

[clambake]

and its worse in the democrat party than the republican party.

yep

[rmt]

One thing I have to admire about the Democrats is that they are united - they play to win - none of the infighting about rubbish that goes on with the repubs.

[Splits]

One thing I have to admire about the Democrats is that they are united - they play to win - none of the infighting about rubbish that goes on with the repubs.

And they don't nominate lunatics

[Warlord23]

All you elitist Commie libruls are so dumb ... can't you see the brilliance of Mr. Trump from these tremendous policy statements at the debate yesterday:

"If you look at Russia, take a look at Russia and look at what they did this week and she wasn't there, but possibly consulted. We sign a peace treaty and everyone is excited, but what Russia did with Assad and Iran with the dumbest deal I have seen in the history of deal making with $150 billion with the $1.7 billion in cash, enough to fill up this room, but look at that deal"

"Syria is no longer Syria. It's Russia and Iran and Obama made into a powerful nation and a rich nation, very, very quickly"

"Well, the D.C. vs. Heller decision was very strongly -- and she was extremely angry about it. I watched. I mean, she was very, very angry when upheld. And Justice Scalia was so involved. And it was a well-crafted decision. But Hillary was extremely upset, extremely angry. And people that believe in the Second Amendment and believe in it very strongly were very upset with what she had to say"

"Because when I said Japan and Germany, and I'm -- not to single them out, but South Korea, these are very rich, powerful countries. Saudi Arabia, nothing but money. We protect Saudi Arabia. Why aren't they paying? She immediately -- when she heard this, I questioned it, and I questioned NATO. Why aren't the NATO questioned -- why aren't they paying? Because they weren't paying. Since I did this -- this was a year ago -- all of a sudden, they're paying. And I've been given a lot -- a lot of credit for it. All of a sudden, they're starting to pay up."

"Let me tell you, Mosul is so sad. We had Mosul. But when she left, when she took everybody out, we lost Mosul. Now we're fighting again to get Mosul. The problem with Mosul and what they wanted to do is they wanted to get the leaders of ISIS who they felt were in Mosul."

"But who's going to get Mosul, really? We'll take Mosul eventually. But the way -- if you look at what's happening, much tougher than they thought. Much, much tougher. Much more dangerous. Going to be more deaths that they thought. But the leaders that we wanted to get are all gone because they're smart. They say, what do we need this for? So Mosul is going to be a wonderful thing. And Iran should write us a letter of thank you"

"No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet. No, you're the puppet."

[Will Hunting]

And America has gotten more progressive as a whole with time

This is a complete myth people love to use. Yeah, with respect to overplayed wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion, the country is as liberal as ever.

Meanwhile, taxes on the rich are at an 80 year low, we've done nothing but privatize shit that used to be government operated, inflation adjusted minimum wage is at its lowest point since pre-great depression, the Democratic party at some point became as much in love with free trade as the Republican party was, labor unions are dead, etc., the list goes on. From an economic perspective, this country is at its most conservative point since before the New Deal was passed.

[spurraider21]

This is a complete myth people love to use. Yeah, with respect to overplayed wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion, the country is as liberal as ever.

Meanwhile, taxes on the rich are at an 80 year low, we've done nothing but privatize shit that used to be government operated, inflation adjusted minimum wage is at its lowest point since pre-great depression, the Democratic party at some point became as much in love with free trade as the Republican party was, labor unions are dead, etc., the list goes on. From an economic perspective, this country is at its most conservative point since before the New Deal was passed.
at least socially, then

[Will Hunting]

at least socially, then

So on the issues that matter least it's gotten progressive while it's shifted to the right on everything else. OK then.

[spurraider21]

So on the issues that matter least it's gotten progressive while it's shifted to the right on everything else. OK then.
well they matter the least to white/asian men, so sure its fine for you to say that

[Will Hunting]

well they matter the least to white/asian men, so sure its fine for you to say that

Gay marriage is something that doesn't have any impact on over 90% of the American population, you'd be hard pressed to find another issue so insignificant get discussed so much.

[Will Hunting]

The easiest way to spot a turncoat corporatist democratic is usually by finding whichever ones talk about gay marriage the most to distract from the corporate overlords who control them.

[baseline bum]

So on the issues that matter least it's gotten progressive while it's shifted to the right on everything else. OK then.

Yeah pretty much, Bill Clinton shifted the party pretty far to the right in response to how fucking popular Reagan was. It makes me sick as fuck voting for a center right candidate like Hillary, but center right is preferable to the far right House bought by the Kochs being in power. This is far and away the worst election I have ever seen.

[ducks]

Voting for someone who lied to FBI and congress is crazy

[FuzzyLumpkins]

People always say this but ignore the fact that generations have always gotten more conservative as they age. The "greatest generation ever" went from having a top marginal tax rate of 90+% in the 1950s to now supporting a candidate who wants the top marginal rate at 15%.

Pew has debunked this notion.


For party affiliation among the general public, the line shows the percent in 2011 identifying or leaning Democratic, minus the percent identifying or leaning Republican. The higher the line on the graph, the larger the Democratic advantage.

With the possible exception of the Millennial generation, the voting tendency and partisan leanings vary a great deal within generations, as well as across generations.
Voters who came of age during the Eisenhower presidency – the younger half of the Silent generation – have been significantly more supportive of Republican candidates than average in recent elections. On the other hand, older Silents have voted less Republican, especially in 2008. In addition, in 2011 about equal numbers of Silents identify as Democrats and Republicans; for the adult population as a whole in 2011, Democratic affiliation surpasses Republican affiliation by about seven percentage points.

Older Baby Boomers, who came of age during Richard Nixon’s presidency, are more Democratic in their voting. But younger Boomers have been significantly more Republican than average in their party affiliation and voting preferences. The younger half of the Boomer generation came of age during a period of disillusionment with Democrat Jimmy Carter and during the beginning of the popular presidency of Republican Ronald Reagan. In this regard, younger Boomers have more in common with the older portion of Generation X, whose formative political experiences occurred during the later Reagan presidency and the early years of George H. W. Bush, than with older Boomers.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/09/the-politics-of-american-generations-how-age-affects-attitudes-and-voting-behavior/