Preseason Game Thread: Spurs vs Rockets: 10/21/16 @ 7:30 PM CT / 3:30 AM Riga Time

[spursistan]

Glad we play the Dubs 1st game..At least that would make it 20-point blowout instead of 40.

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes :wow

RIP Garbino, Laprovittola, and Anthony

[baseline bum]

Yeah. He looks a lot better than he did in the summer. Now that he knows where to go and where everyone is supposed to be, his IQ is helping him get to the right places. And he's been making his shots. I don't think he's been contesting much, he what he has been doing is that Splitter-esque cutting off of drivers. I definitely think they need to give him some time to get stronger and figure out what he can do at a high enough level to make that his niche. He could probably go out there with the starters in a real game and not embarrass himself, but I don't think he'd help them win this season.

Nice to hear there might be something there for the future at least.

[tonight...you]

Pop- What did Bryn think he was going to do, in the paint? Block something?

[SAGirl]

Well Pop getting a good look at everyone ....

[TheDoctor]

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-07/29/17/enhanced/webdr04/grid-cell-31853-1406670791-16.jpg

[SPURt]

Good thing Nene and Anderson will only play 20 games a piece this year

[bklynspursfan]

Great bounce pass from Kawhi to LMA

[Kawhitstorm]

Dumb'Antoni calling postup plays aka the "least efficient shot in the game"::lol

[Chinook]

Nice to hear there might be something there for the future at least.

I'm hoping there's that chance rather than the team paying $2.4 Million for someone else to develop him.

[TheDoctor]

This is gonna be an awful start of season. Glad James Harden isn't playing tbh

[ace3g]

That snackwards segment is always weird, lol

[r0drig0lac]

dunk by bertans

[r0drig0lac]

it's over

[ace3g]

Bertans dunk!!!

[SAGirl]

McDaniels lol

[jbspurs]

any live stream? please!!

[Obstructed_View]

Nene career night truly.

When you need a big basket in October, Nene is your guy.

[ace3g]

any live stream? please!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WY26wr77WM

[Obstructed_View]

any live stream? please!!

Google Kodi and Sportsdevil.

[SAGirl]

MVP Kiwi

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi significantly less shots and touches but manages two outscore the chucking duo oF Porker and LAdiva

[apalisoc_9]

Dedmon 0 minutes....

[ace3g]

nice hockey assist by Bertans

[TheGreatYacht]

Garbino with his garbage D making Bobby Brown look like Harden

[apalisoc_9]

Lapri 0 minutes so far too..

[Obstructed_View]

They going to automatically blow the whistle this year if you jump the pick? Two calls in a row, one on each team, that looked a bit ticky-tac to me.

[Kawhitstorm]

No one's going to comment on Willie Reed outplaying Dedmon? Dude's averaging 10 and 8 with 2 blocks in 22 minutes so far in the preseason.

I vouched for Willie Reed during the summer when you & Harlem were on the Dedmon bandwagon.:wakeup

[Chinook]

This is going to be hard. I think Forbes has to make in purely on guard depth. You can make a case for Anthony over Livio, but LJC is the only young defender on the roster right now. Dedmon and Simmons should be glad for their guaranteed deals.

[TheGreatYacht]

I vouched for Willie Reed during the summer when you & Harlem were on the Dedmon bandwagon.:wakeup
I don't remember Chinook on the bandwagon tbh

[SAGirl]

Forbes and Garino have gotten the most minutes (Forbes the most) of any camp tryout...

[Chinook]

I vouched for Willie Reed during the summer when you & Harlem were on the Dedmon bandwagon.:wakeup

Indeed. And to be fair, Dedmon took Reed's cookie when they were on their old teams last year. I'm just surprised that the green-grassers on ST aren't more vocal about this.

[Obstructed_View]

Has Dedmon played?

[Chinook]

I don't remember Chinook on the bandwagon tbh

Nah, I was. I was VERY happy when he was released from his QO.

But I liked Ayres a lot, too. So don't mind me. :wakeup

[Obstructed_View]

This is going to be hard. I think Forbes has to make in purely on guard depth. You can make a case for Anthony over Livio, but LJC is the only young defender on the roster right now. Dedmon and Simmons should be glad for their guaranteed deals.

Kind of feel like the Spurs want to move him and they're doing the opposite of showcasing him at the moment.

[SAGirl]

This is going to be hard. I think Forbes has to make in purely on guard depth. You can make a case for Anthony over Livio, but LJC is the only young defender on the roster right now. Dedmon and Simmons should be glad for their guaranteed deals.

Indeed they are not pulling their weight. I think Simmons would have thrown down a few dunks maybe, but also TO the ball and hogged posessions on the PnR instead of passing. :vomit:

[Kawhitstorm]

Pablo Harden:lmao

[SAGirl]

Prigioni bad flop!

[TheGreatYacht]

POS argies flopping from birth lmfao

[SPURt]

Bertans is crazy, thank goodness

[Hoops Czar]

Didn't even know Prigioni was still playing in the NBA. Has to be pushing 40.

[TheDoctor]

B3RTANS

[SAGirl]

Bertans definite impact player this season!
:flag:

[Obstructed_View]

That trade is getting more historically lopsided by the game.

[Hoops Czar]

POS argies flopping from birth lmfao

They all idolize Messi, tbh. He's the king of flopping.

Crawl, flop, then walk.

[SAGirl]

Bertans for RoY?

[Chinook]

Kind of feel like the Spurs want to move him and they're doing the opposite of showcasing him at the moment.

Who do you think they're showcasing?

[Obstructed_View]

Who do you think they're showcasing?

No, the OPPOSITE of showcasing. They want to trade him but they're afraid if they let him play it will kill his trade value.

[John Petrucci]

Bertans for RoY?

He can do more than just shoot, huh?

But damn he can shoot.

[Chinook]

No, the OPPOSITE of showcasing. They want to trade him but they're afraid if they let him play it will kill his trade value.

All right. I get that. But I still don't know who you're talking about.

[SAGirl]

Anderson/Bertans baby!:flag:

[TheGreatYacht]

Arcidiacono averaged less than 2 points in the summer league on 36%, not surprised he's useless here too

[r0drig0lac]

Bertans for RoY?

Embiid or Murray

[spursistan]

This is going to be hard. I think Forbes has to make in purely on guard depth. You can make a case for Anthony over Livio, but LJC is the only young defender on the roster right now. Dedmon and Simmons should be glad for their guaranteed deals.

More misses than hits for RC Buford since 2013..the pattern seems to be continuing..

[TheGreatYacht]

They all idolize Messi, tbh. He's the king of flopping.

Crawl, flop, then walk.
:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

More misses than hits for RC since 2013..the pattern seems to be continuing..

Hes drunk...as always.

Also Goodbye Arcidiacono..You wont be missed.

Probably the only player that everyone knows has zero chance of making the team. :lol

[Chinook]

Arcidiacono averaged less than 2 points in the summer league on 36%, not surprised he's useless here too

He'll be fine in Austin with worse athletes guarding him.

[SAGirl]

He can do more than just shoot, huh?

But damn he can shoot.
For sure, I had never seen him... just highlights are not enough to get a sense for a guy TBH.

case in point, Simmons, yeah all the dunks then you see him play and tada.. no bbiq

[ace3g]

LJC with the off rebound and pass to Dejounte for layup

[Chinook]

LJC with the off rebound and pass to Dejounte for layup

Then followed that up with an awful hook. #BoomsAndBusts

[SAGirl]

That was a bad whistle on Garino... I think?

[Chinook]

Thing about Forbes is he has no BBIQ at all. That limits the small upside he has.

[raybies]

Bryn with a few rookie mistakes. He'll learn from those. I think he's the most playable day one though. He plays like he belongs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes cornered because Garbino doesn't want to get anywhere near the ball

[jbspurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WY26wr77WM

Thank you!!

[raybies]

wheres nico? has he played>

[timtonymanu]

How has LJC looked all preseason?

[raybies]

bryn making the team.

[raybies]

How has LJC looked all preseason?

its preseason and he's barely playing. answer your question?

[Chinook]

How has LJC looked all preseason?

This is his worst game so far. So that should help calibrate him. Much better than the summer league, but his lack of skill is evident.

[TheGreatYacht]

Looks like there's only one Argie on the team that isn't useless.... Lapro

[ace3g]

Pop bringing in Bertans to secure win

[YGWHI]

This is gonna be an awful start of season.

Without doubts.

-Parker 4 TO and needs 13 shots to score 10 points

-Parker having the team-highest USG%

-No Danny

-the idea of Kawhi having more the ball, driving, running plays? only when Patty's on court and Parker's on the bench. Yep, Kawhi will have to wait for 2017-18 season to get more the ball....

-Pau letting scrubs to have their career-high

-Lee...welll...depressing. Also, he needs to understand that he's playing for the Spurs now, refs don't ignore his moving-screens like they did when he was in Bay

-Hopefully, Bertans continues hitting 3's or the Spurs won't have a decent shooter from the perimeter in the first weeks of the season -people don't expect that Forbes makes the team but...who knows-

[TheDoctor]

So Livio is our new Ayres?

[SPURt]

Damn, Forbes trying to stay

[Chinook]

So Livio is our new Ayres?

Looks like Dedmon is :depressed

[raybies]

any doubt bryn making the team now? playing for a spot and he still performs. spells clutch gene if you ask me.

[SAGirl]

Lapro didn't play right? :huh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Murray needs to get stronger to finish those and 1s.

[raybies]

Lapro didn't play right? :huh

I haven't seen him. Probably has a deal with a european team on hold.

[TheDoctor]

Looks like Dedmon is :depressed

Damn, that's a lot of shitty hands :lol

[SAGirl]

any doubt bryn making the team now? playing for a spot and he still performs. spells clutch gene if you ask me.

Yes, in one of those articles he talked about that and said that playing for coach Tom Izzo, he had played in important games and developed mental toughness....

I have liked the kid a lot too. (so different from someone who totally lacks in the mental toughness dept...)

[TheGreatYacht]

So is Forbes starting in Danny's place?

When Kyle was in with the starters, we had 6 points at the 6 minute mark and they looked slow as hell. When Forbes started in the third, Spurs scored 36 in the quarter

[r0drig0lac]

wow forbes

[sasaint]

Looks like Dedmon is :depressed

LJC + Deadman = the Ayres brothers.

[SAGirl]

Forbes my goodness!

[SPURt]

These Rockets announcers being forced on this stream are garbage juice

[TheDoctor]

Murray needs to get stronger to finish those and 1s.

They have him on a Porker diet but he's too young and his metabolism's too aggressive.

[Chinook]

LJC + Deadman = the Ayres brothers.

Stone Bros., tbh.

[raybies]

i want forbes to start vs the warriors period

[TimDunkem]

"Bertans is like a younger Matt Bonner with a little bit of a better game..." :lol

[Chinook]

i want forbes to start vs the warriors period

Who's he gonna guard, Curry or Klay?

[TheGreatYacht]

It's going to be worse in here than when we cut Butler if Forbes doesn't make it :lol

[raybies]

Yes, in one of those articles he talked about that and said that playing for coach Tom Izzo, he had played in important games and developed mental toughness....

I have liked the kid a lot too. (so different from someone who totally lacks in the mental toughness dept...)

yeah he is a literal Neal 2.0 but younger, more talented, and with a better head on his shoulders.

[TheGreatYacht]

Who's he gonna guard, Curry or Klay?
I'll take my chances with him on Klay over Kyle on Durant. Forbes doesn't look cancerous on that end and he's 10x the scorer Kyle is

[sasaint]

Stone Bros., tbh.

That's what I said. :lol

[raybies]

Who's he gonna guard, Curry or Klay?

my thinking is who starts if he doesn't. Simmons? :( At least Forbes can theoretically shoot with the splash brothers. but to answer your question, it would have to be curry and let parker get posted by klay. but then again we already know what happens when you let Parker guard him so maybe you let him try against klay. i would rather them shoot mid range 2s then have a healthy diet of threes

[SAGirl]

I haven't seen him. Probably has a deal with a european team on hold.

Oh well, he was fun to watch, I would have taken him but one can't argue with Forbes and they have Murray who is a deserving PG to develop and get opportunities I think.

Not sure if they let someone go to get an invitee they like.

Last season they cut Jimmer and he had his contract guaranteed, so you never know, but I doubt they cut someone. I think it's definitely Forbes.

I personally don't like Simmons, he hasn't been missed int his game for example, and I think he just gets possession from others. It's almost unbelievable but he was using almost 30% of the posessions when he's on the floor. That is excessive, then TO the ball over twice as much as he has assists. He has played selfish. I don't think they cut him but bleh. I like Garino more bc he's less prone to hog the ball and plays within a team context. Better shooter too.

[r0drig0lac]

forbesanity

[ace3g]

Joel Anthony's lefty jumper looking good in 4th

[MaNu4Tres]

In order for Houston to be a top 5 team this year, the west will have to be bad. Houston is going to have to take and make a ton of the three's and score 115 points just to give that defense a chance.

Houston won't make the playoffs. IMO

[Chinook]

There are two guys that I just fundamentally can't see NOT making the team and one whom I still think should. As I said, this is going to be hard. If Danny were healthy, the easy thing in my mind would be moving Simmons and keeping Forbes and Joel. But with him out for the first 10 games or so... This is going to be hard.

[Kawhitstorm]

yeah he is a literal Neal 2.0 but younger, more talented, and with a better head on his shoulders.

Wouldn't say more talented but he plays more within the system than Gary Gunz.

[SAGirl]

http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100 Spurs




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MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


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22
6-13
0-1
0-0
3
4
7
1
0
0
1
2
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12


K. Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450)
18
6-9
2-4
1-2
0
4
4
2
1
0
0
3
+13
15


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874)
20
4-5
0-0
2-2
0
4
4
3
0
2
0
1
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10


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996)
22
3-7
0-1
0-0
0
9
9
4
0
1
1
1
+3
6


T. Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015)
22
5-13
0-0
0-0
0
4
4
3
2
0
4
1
+3
10


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MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Lee (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2772)
8
1-4
0-0
2-2
0
3
3
1
0
1
2
1
+10
4


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426)
20
4-6
2-4
4-4
0
1
1
2
0
1
0
2
+8
14


J. Anthony (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3247)
12
3-3
0-0
2-2
0
5
5
2
0
2
0
0
+0
8


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497)
15
1-5
0-1
4-4
0
0
0
4
2
0
1
1
+1
6


R. Arcidiacono (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991047)
14
1-3
0-1
0-0
0
1
1
6
1
0
1
0
+8
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004)
8
1-2
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
1
0
0
1
0
+10
2


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526)
28
7-11
4-5
1-1
0
1
1
0
0
1
1
1
+6
19


P. Garino (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2982506)
19
3-5
0-1
0-0
0
2
2
1
1
0
1
2
-3
6


L. Jean-Charles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3033028)
11
0-3
0-0
0-0
1
3
4
1
0
1
0
0
+0
0


D. Dedmon (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580913)
Has not entered game

[ace3g]

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983) PF
22
6-13
0-1
0-0
3
4
7
1
0
0
1
2
+11
12


K. Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450) SF
18
6-9
2-4
1-2
0
4
4
2
1
0
0
3
+13
15


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874) SF
20
4-5
0-0
2-2
0
4
4
3
0
2
0
1
+10
10


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996) C
22
3-7
0-1
0-0
0
9
9
4
0
1
1
1
+3
6


T. Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015) PG
22
5-13
0-0
0-0
0
4
4
3
2
0
4
1
+3
10


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MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Lee (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2772) PF
8
1-4
0-0
2-2
0
3
3
1
0
1
2
1
+10
4


L. Jean-Charles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3033028) SF
11
0-3
0-0
0-0
1
3
4
1
0
1
0
0
+0
0


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426) SF
20
4-6
2-4
4-4
0
1
1
2
0
1
0
2
+8
14


J. Anthony (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3247) C
12
3-3
0-0
2-2
0
5
5
2
0
2
0
0
+0
8


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497) PG
15
1-5
0-1
4-4
0
0
0
4
2
0
1
1
+1
6


R. Arcidiacono (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991047) PG
14
1-3
0-1
0-0
0
1
1
6
1
0
1
0
+8
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004) PG
8
1-2
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
1
0
0
1
0
+10
2


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526) SG
28
7-11
4-5
1-1
0
1
1
0
0
1
1
1
+6
19


P. Garino (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2982506) SG
19
3-5
0-1
0-0
0
2
2
1
1
0
1
2
-3
6


D. Dedmon (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580913) C
Has not entered game


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272) SG
Has not entered game


J. Simmons (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2579466) SG
Has not entered game


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988) SG
Has not entered game


N. Laprovittola (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2968338) G
Has not entered game


TEAM

45-89
8-18
16-17
5
43
48
31
7
9
13
15

114

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes with glimpses of Ferrari :depressed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSR-g5UN_2c&feature=share

[GSH]

Watching Bertans really makes me wish the Spurs had gone harder after Bourousis. He would have been a legit backup big, and he and Bertans already know each other's game. I read some of his comments, and it really sounded like he was interested in coming here.

[SPURt]

789655034858381312

[MaNu4Tres]

LJC is miles behind everyone that got invited to camp, excluding Arci. Arci is miles behind from a ability stand point. Just not enough of it to play at this level.

[SAGirl]

Arci with 6 assists. He's very underrated. He kept feeding the hot hands.

[TheDoctor]

789657083469828096

[SAGirl]

789655034858381312


:tu The SA Express News guys have been pimping him all preseason.

[Splits]

lol anyone thinking Bryn Forbes is making the roster

[raybies]

Oh well, he was fun to watch, I would have taken him but one can't argue with Forbes and they have Murray who is a deserving PG to develop and get opportunities I think.

Not sure if they let someone go to get an invitee they like.

Last season they cut Jimmer and he had his contract guaranteed, so you never know, but I doubt they cut someone. I think it's definitely Forbes.

I personally don't like Simmons, he hasn't been missed int his game for example, and I think he just gets possession from others. It's almost unbelievable but he was using almost 30% of the posessions when he's on the floor. That is excessive, then TO the ball over twice as much as he has assists. He has played selfish. I don't think they cut him but bleh. I like Garino more bc he's less prone to hog the ball and plays within a team context. Better shooter too.

I think the only reason Simmons still has a spot is because PATFO still thinks he can be a playmaker which would be a huge value, but the fact is he has shown little in two years. Still TO prone, shaky dribbles, just a little more developed in a role.

As for Livio, I dunno. I would rather have Anthony. At least he's a rim protector with experience. LJC is almost unplayable right now with very low upside. How much better can he get? When can you use him? Is he only here because he did you a favor? If the last question is yes, than you cut him and let him have his money and you improve your team. I sincerely doubt anyone would even claim him off the waiver wire.

[sasaint]

Oh well, he was fun to watch, I would have taken him but one can't argue with Forbes and they have Murray who is a deserving PG to develop and get opportunities I think.

Not sure if they let someone go to get an invitee they like.

Last season they cut Jimmer and he had his contract guaranteed, so you never know, but I doubt they cut someone. I think it's definitely Forbes.

I personally don't like Simmons, he hasn't been missed int his game for example, and I think he just gets possession from others. It's almost unbelievable but he was using almost 30% of the posessions when he's on the floor. That is excessive, then TO the ball over twice as much as he has assists. He has played selfish. I don't think they cut him but bleh. I like Garino more bc he's less prone to hog the ball and plays within a team context. Better shooter too.

I think you may be surprised by Pop's decision about Simmons. Everything you just said is true, and PATFO knows it better than we. From the first SL game it was clear that Murray made Simmons expendable. And now some other guys are starting to show something. One way or another, I think Simmons is probably gone.

[SAGirl]

LJC is miles behind everyone that got invited to camp, excluding Arci. Arci is miles behind from a ability stand point. Just not enough of it to play at this level.

Agreed in that his ballhandling is probably not robust enough and he's kind of undersized and not a great athelete to compensate for being small, but boy he knows how to play. It will be fun to watch him in Austin and he will make everyone sent there for reps better. Good luck to him!

[timtonymanu]

I'm excited for the season to start now. I really don't know what to expect this year, but it's great to see Spurs basketball again.

[Kawhitstorm]

There are two guys that I just fundamentally can't see NOT making the team and one whom I still think should. As I said, this is going to be hard. If Danny were healthy, the easy thing in my mind would be moving Simmons and keeping Forbes and Joel. But with him out for the first 10 games or so... This is going to be hard.

Without Danny the team needs someone like Simmons who has size & athleticism to not get murdered on defense (Forbes would get posted up every time down the floor). If Garino wasn't so gun shy & a rookie, he could have been thrown into the fire.

[TheDoctor]

While still very raw, one thing I've noticed is that Garino is an above average finisher once he gets to the paint.

[TheGreatYacht]

Gasol, Aldridge, Bertans, Leonard, Parker

or

Gasol, Aldridge, Leonard, Forbes, Parker

[TheDoctor]

I'm excited for the season to start now. I really don't know what to expect this year, but it's great to see Spurs basketball again.

[GSH]

I'm excited for the season to start now. I really don't know what to expect this year, but it's great to see Spurs basketball again.


In the past, no matter how lousy the preseason looked, I always knew that Timmy was going to be on the floor to start the regular season, and everything was going to be all right. I'm a whole lot less excited than I'd like to be. Shit just got real for me tonight.

[Robz4000]

I'm settled on Forbes taking the final spot.

[Kawhitstorm]

I personally don't like Simmons, he hasn't been missed int his game for example, and I think he just gets possession from others. It's almost unbelievable but he was using almost 30% of the posessions when he's on the floor. That is excessive, then TO the ball over twice as much as he has assists. He has played selfish. I don't think they cut him but bleh. I like Garino more bc he's less prone to hog the ball and plays within a team context. Better shooter too.

Simmons is the scrub version of WestBrick.:lol

[raybies]

Without Danny the team needs someone like Simmons who has size & athleticism to not get murdered on defense (Forbes would get posted up every time down the floor). If Garino wasn't so gun shy & a rookie, he could have been thrown into the fire.

He's an Izzo guy. He'll have heart playing D. I mean look at him now. He's not a great defender but he's scrappy and moves his feet pretty well. And i think other teams posting him up would be at our advantage since we have size on our side. Playing the 2 game is one of our strong suits imo. The more we make teams slow down an offense is tilting in our favor.

[Kawhitstorm]

Worriers getting stomped by the Glazers.:wow

[TheDoctor]

Worriers getting stomped by the Glazers.:wow

Sad thing is that we know how that game is gonna end

[raybies]

and now we wait

[SAGirl]

I think the only reason Simmons still has a spot is because PATFO still thinks he can be a playmaker which would be a huge value, but the fact is he has shown little in two years. Still TO prone, shaky dribbles, just a little more developed in a role.

As for Livio, I dunno. I would rather have Anthony. At least he's a rim protector with experience. LJC is almost unplayable right now with very low upside. How much better can he get? When can you use him? Is he only here because he did you a favor? If the last question is yes, than you cut him and let him have his money and you improve your team. I sincerely doubt anyone would even claim him off the waiver wire.

I agree with you about Pop's hope, which is why it has been so shocking that he has been so selfish. That is why him using 28.5% of the possessions (to be more accurate and not exaggerate) is such a shocker. You really want to give that dude the ball? Then it really is over 2/1 in TO to assist ratio. I have been enamored with Laprovittola bc he gets the ball away from Simmons hands and gets others involved. Simmons has been that awful and bad as a playmaker and ballhandler. I don't know but he's been a ball stopper.

Anyways, they don't have much in wing depth and Pop has pimped Simmons up a lot, so even with all my criticism I think they keep him and no matter what I hope for the best for him, but he's going to have to scale back his own usage and look to play more team ball.

Edit: with Livio hard to say. He was drafted for some reasons and they have to evaluate where he has gone with what they wanted to see, but once he was drafted he was entitled to that contract.

[raybies]

I agree with you about Pop's hope, which is why it has been so shocking that he has been so selfish. That is why him using 28.5% of the possessions (to be more accurate and not exaggerate) is such a shocker. You really want to give that dude the ball? Then it really is over 2/1 in TO to assist ratio. I have been enamored with Laprovittola bc he gets the ball away from Simmons hands and gets others involved. Simmons has been that awful and bad as a playmaker and ballhandler. I don't know but he's been a ball stopper.

Anyways, they don't have much in wing depth and Pop has pimped Simmons up a lot, so even with all my criticism I think they keep him and no matter what I hope for the best for him, but he's going to have to scale back his own usage and look to play more team ball.

Edit: with Livio hard to say. He was drafted for some reasons and they have to evaluate where he has gone with what they wanted to see, but once he was drafted he was entitled to that contract.
its the kiss of death. i remember when he said Dejuan Blair was the future or something or other.

[SAGirl]

I think you may be surprised by Pop's decision about Simmons. Everything you just said is true, and PATFO knows it better than we. From the first SL game it was clear that Murray made Simmons expendable. And now some other guys are starting to show something. One way or another, I think Simmons is probably gone.

:tu I agree. The question is when. They gave him an opportunity to clean things up. This may just be the limits of his talent right now.

Considering how Boston is basically throwing away one of RJ Hunger or James Young, Simmons is not tradeable by himself. He's likely going to be moved back in the rotation and from there he will have to use his opportunities wisely. It just so happens that with Danny's injury they can't spare wings right now. But Garino or someone else remains as a possible call up midseason if he's not working out.

[SAGirl]

its the kiss of death. i remember when he said Dejuan Blair was the future or something or other.

:lol Wow. Dejuan must have gotten complacent lol

[tonight...you]

:lol Wow. Dejuan must have gotten complacent lol
Nah... Dejuan was destined to be nothing more than Malik Rose-Lite, maybe with better hands. Yes, I know that's before your fandom, but it's real.

[From Downtown]

Rumours spreading around that Laprovittola is heading to Europe, so I guess Forbes has a big chance of making the roster
Arci got waived (you probably know already) and will stay in Austin, I hope Garino does as well cause I like him and he might have a future on this team

[Kawhitstorm]

Rumours spreading around that Laprovittola is heading to Europe, so I guess Forbes has a big chance of making the roster
Arci got waived (you probably know already) and will stay in Austin, I hope Garino does as well cause I like him and he might have a future on this team

Leprosy was probably not interested in being a 3rd string PG ala De Colo so I guess Forbes will be his Gary Neal.

[Chinook]

Rumours spreading around that Laprovittola is heading to Europe, so I guess Forbes has a big chance of making the roster
Arci got waived (you probably know already) and will stay in Austin, I hope Garino does as well cause I like him and he might have a future on this team

I do think his time with the Spurs helped his stock. I think he could hang in the NBA. With him gone, it's now Bryn vs Joel.

[MaNu4Tres]

Rumours spreading around that Laprovittola is heading to Europe, so I guess Forbes has a big chance of making the roster
Arci got waived (you probably know already) and will stay in Austin, I hope Garino does as well cause I like him and he might have a future on this team

Maybe he's heading back for a year then exploring a role with the Spurs again next summer. I think Garino will be in Austin this year.

[TrainOfThought5]

its the kiss of death. i remember when he said Dejuan Blair was the future or something or other.

LOL "Centerpiece"

LOL "George hill is my favorite player"

[raybies]

LOL "Centerpiece"

LOL "George hill is my favorite player"
:lol

[BillMc]

Oh snap! That's Larry Blamire's wife!
:lol

[BillMc]

789657083469828096

Missed the game so am very grateful for the update.

[SpurPadre]

Leprosy was probably not interested in being a 3rd string PG ala De Colo so I guess Forbes will be his Gary Neal.

Hopefully Forbes can guard shoeless players, tbh.

[BillMc]

Did I miss something? Is Danny going to be out for a while?

[raybies]

Did I miss something? Is Danny going to be out for a while?

3 weeks

[BillMc]

3 weeks

Well, Hell's Bells....

[GSH]

Well, Hell's Bells....


Yeah, and then some.

[raybies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCbnj23_AAE

Here BillMc

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCbnj23_AAE

Here BillMc (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16431)

Cheers bro! Many thanks!:toast

[gambit1990]

parker's statline :lol

[ceperez]

:tu The SA Express News guys have been pimping him all preseason.

Definitely looks like he needs to be in the roster. Of course Laprovittola should also be in the roster.

Who's going to get cut then?

[ceperez]

He's an Izzo guy. He'll have heart playing D. I mean look at him now. He's not a great defender but he's scrappy and moves his feet pretty well. And i think other teams posting him up would be at our advantage since we have size on our side. Playing the 2 game is one of our strong suits imo. The more we make teams slow down an offense is tilting in our favor.

Simmons is needed because Spurs don't have athletic wings outside of Danny and Kawhi. He fills a need. That's plain and simple.

Forbes and Laprovitolla are liabilities in defense just like Parker and Mills.

[ceperez]

Arci with 6 assists. He's very underrated. He kept feeding the hot hands.

With Forbes and Bertans on the court, you only need players who can look to setup other players. That's what Arci did, unfortunately Laprovitolla is so much better. Honestly, Spurs will need to cut someone and it could be a big.

The only thing that should be in the minds of PATFO is how to beat GSW. To do that, you need your own 3 point shooters and good passers.

[ceperez]

Rumours spreading around that Laprovittola is heading to Europe, so I guess Forbes has a big chance of making the roster
Arci got waived (you probably know already) and will stay in Austin, I hope Garino does as well cause I like him and he might have a future on this team

Laprovitolla has De Colo level talent, I'm not surprised that he wants to play rather than be backup. But given the kind of money mediocre NBA players can make and given that he comes from this side of the hemisphere. We shall see if rumors are true.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yacwjQkeVfk

[kaji157]

Simmons is needed because Spurs don't have athletic wings outside of Danny and Kawhi. He fills a need. That's plain and simple.

Forbes and Laprovitolla are liabilities in defense just like Parker and Mills.

Same as Simmons.
If you ask me i´d Cut Simmons and LJC and add Lapro, Forbes and Garino.
They´d be payed chips so if an interesting player is bought out you can cut any of those and make a spot.

Simmons doesn´t seem to be understanding what the team needs from him other than running in transition, and LJC might be one of the worst players an NBA team ever signed.

[Rito3d30]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yacwjQkeVfk

reminds me of Neal
with more quickness and hustle on D(better but not enough though)

[Ice009]

reminds me of Neal
with more quickness and hustle on D(better but not enough though)

What do you mean better but not enough? If he's better than Neal, then he should be in the NBA as Neal is an NBA level player.

[ceperez]

Same as Simmons.
If you ask me i´d Cut Simmons and LJC and add Lapro, Forbes and Garino.
They´d be payed chips so if an interesting player is bought out you can cut any of those and make a spot.

Simmons doesn´t seem to be understanding what the team needs from him other than running in transition, and LJC might be one of the worst players an NBA team ever signed.

Well I don't know about Garino. He still needs a year or so to be ready.

I want both Lapro and Forbes in the team. I don't know though who to cut.... shall we cut the first round draft pick? LJC? LJC is in a guaranteed contract. Thats $2.3m that he's guaranteed.

Shall we cut Simmons who did a decent job last season?

[chasky]

Pato was waived today.

[TheGreatYacht]

kaji157 (Spurs fan from Argentina) would keep Garino and Lapro..

I'm guessing there's no bias there

[TimDunkem]

lol anyone thinking Bryn Forbes is making the roster
Wrong again, retard.

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[kaji157]

kaji157 (Spurs fan from Argentina) would keep Garino and Lapro..

I'm guessing there's no bias there

Of course there is.
I don´t get where are you from? Belgium?