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loveforthegame
10-07-2005, 12:11 AM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA100705.1D.BKNspurs.popovich.1ce2b8b5.html

Popovich has to choose Spurs' minutes plan

Web Posted: 10/07/2005 12:00 AM CDT
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer

CHARLOTTE AMALIE, U.S. Virgin Islands — Returning to San Antonio a few weeks ago to join the Spurs' informal workouts, Brent Barry walked into the locker room at the team's practice facility and marveled at the nameplates stretching across the top of the stalls.

Tim Duncan. Manu Ginobili. Tony Parker. Bruce Bowen. Michael Finley. Robert Horry. Nick Van Exel. Nazr Mohammed. Fabricio Oberto ...

"When you realize who's on this team this year, and what it could be capable of, it's really impressive," Barry said. "But that's from somebody who's on the team.

"I'd hate to be somebody who's on another ballclub and have to think of some of the combinations that we can put on the floor."

Having assembled the deepest roster in franchise history, the Spurs hope their new talent pool creates more headaches for their opponents than their coach. How well Gregg Popovich massages his roster and, more importantly, how well his players receive their roles will go a long way in determining whether the team wins its second-straight NBA title.

"Everybody knows in the NBA that players don't make a champion," Ginobili said. "A team does."

The Spurs rarely have had chemistry problems while winning three championships in seven seasons. Year to year, whether it be Bowen, Mario Elie, Steve Kerr, Danny Ferry or David Robinson, the team successfully has plugged in players next to Duncan.

Never, however, has Popovich had to manage this much talent.

Of the 13 players with guaranteed contracts, only Sean Marks didn't play regularly last season. Everyone but Marks and Beno Udrih averaged at least 18 minutes for their respective teams. Nine averaged more than 25.

Popovich acknowledged he will have to monitor minutes more than ever to "make sure people are getting enough playing time.

"There will be some nights," he said, "when that will be a real tough thing to do, I think."

Finley figures to have to make the biggest adjustment. Not only is he joining a new team, he also no longer is going to start regularly. The 36.8 minutes he averaged last season with Dallas would have led the Spurs.

"Minutes," Finley said, "aren't important."

Fewer minutes, however, also usually leads to fewer shots, and, for a shooter such as Finley, less time to find his rhythm.

Still, Popovich is confident Finley will make a smooth transition because the veteran swingman signed even after being told he would have to accept a reduced role. Popovich also said he has few worries about Van Exel, who could see the 30-plus minutes he averaged last season cut in half.

"I'm not saying it's going to be easy for Pop," Spurs assistant coach P.J. Carlesimo said, "but the problem is not going to be Pop's problem. The problem is going to be how players accept their roles and how players accept a night where their minutes are not as much as they were. That's everybody — starters and the other guys."

Barry, who figures to lose some time to Finley, doesn't foresee too much trouble because of the way "Pop handles an ego-less team." In other words, Popovich wouldn't have signed Finley, Van Exel and Oberto if he didn't think they could mesh with the holdovers from last season's roster.

It also doesn't hurt that the team's best player — Duncan — is its most unselfish.

"If you have 'X' amount of talent and you're a little weak on the character side, it's much more likely you're going to have problems with people not being satisfied," Popovich said. "But if you have pretty selfless people who have the character to understand why you're doing things, and they can handle that sacrifice, it's easier to dole out minutes."

In recent years, Popovich has employed a 10-man rotation until the final few weeks of the season. The lineup he starts often differs from the one he uses to finishes games, allowing reserves such as Finley, Horry and Van Exel the chance to play important minutes. Keeping Van Exel and Horry fresh for the playoffs will be a priority, perhaps affording others more playing time early in the season.

While the Spurs eventually may thin their roster — team officials will continue to explore trade opportunities for Rasho Nesterovic and possibly Barry to get under the luxury-tax threshold— the coaches already see the value in having a deep roster. In addition to providing security in case of injuries or foul trouble, the extra talent should make for better practices.

On Wednesday, the Spurs gave up more points during their transition defense drills than they usually do, in large part, because the team's offense has become more prolific with Finley and Van Exel.

"You've got guys pushing guys," Carlesimo said. "And that's a good situation."

Although Popovich shouldn't have any problems balancing minutes in tonight's scrimmage, the Spurs won't always have the luxury of playing themselves. As for a lesson in the importance of getting along, they need only look at recent history: After bringing together four likely Hall of Famers two seasons ago, the Los Angeles Lakers lost to Detroit in the NBA Finals.

"It doesn't necessarily mean that those names on your back are going to get you a trophy," Barry said. "There's a lot of work to be done. A lot of things need to come together and fall into place.

"A lot of people are going to have to be willing to sacrifice."

JUUOT
10-07-2005, 08:59 AM
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In addition to providing security in case of injuries or foul trouble, the extra talent should make for better practices.

"You've got guys pushing guys," Carlesimo said. "And that's a good situation."



sorry but i was in a : "i told you" mood

rainy day up here, started on the wrong foot...

Rick Von Braun
10-07-2005, 09:17 AM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/images/2005-2006/1007spurs_oberto_ap.jpg

(Andres Leighton / Special to the Express-News)
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich (left) jokes with Fabricio Oberto, one of several new players in search of minutes this season.

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Of the 13 players with guaranteed contracts, only Sean Marks didn't play regularly last season. Everyone but Marks and Beno Udrih averaged at least 18 minutes for their respective teams. Nine averaged more than 25.

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While the Spurs eventually may thin their roster — team officials will continue to explore trade opportunities for Rasho Nesterovic and possibly Barry to get under the luxury-tax threshold— the coaches already see the value in having a deep roster. In addition to providing security in case of injuries or foul trouble, the extra talent should make for better practices.

mathbzh
10-07-2005, 09:33 AM
Give Tony less minutes! He will be even quicker on the floor.
The French coach did it during the euro. With some success.

ploto
10-07-2005, 10:01 AM
The starters will get outscored by the reserves- if Finley, Horry, and NVE get hot!

angel_luv
10-07-2005, 10:07 AM
While the Spurs eventually may thin their roster — team officials will continue to explore trade opportunities for Rasho Nesterovic and possibly Barry to get under the luxury-tax threshold— the coaches already see the value in having a deep roster. In addition to providing security in case of injuries or foul trouble, the extra talent should make for better practices.


Just say no already Pop! Boosh! :depressed

Bruno
10-07-2005, 10:47 AM
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/morestories.asp?id=3328&NAV=1

Was TAW almost traded to San Antonio for Rasho Nesterovic? We understand the Spurs indeed tried to make a deal involving those names, but Cuban explains, "The Spurs don't have the money for contracts like [Rasho's], and we didn't want [that contract] either."

If nobody want Rasho, just keep him because he is so great. :spin

Taladro
10-07-2005, 01:18 PM
What do you think of an 11 men rotation with minutes sheared as follows?

PG
----TP 30 min
----NVE 18 min

SG + SF
----Bruce 30 min
----Manu 29 min
----Finley 22 min
----B. B. 15 min

PF + C
----TD 30 min
----Nazr 20 min
----R H 18 min
----F O 18 min
----Rasho 10 min

To me it looks like a reasonable amount of minutes for all the players that I think are going to play during regular season. The starters would still have minutes close to what they played last season and the new guys would get enough time to learn the system.
Beno and Marks would have to pick up the injury time that will always come around.
Well, what do you think?

slayermin
10-07-2005, 01:53 PM
What do you think of an 11 men rotation with minutes sheared as follows?

PG
----TP 30 min
----NVE 18 min

SG + SF
----Bruce 30 min
----Manu 29 min
----Finley 22 min
----B. B. 15 min

PF + C
----TD 30 min
----Nazr 20 min
----R H 18 min
----F O 18 min
----Rasho 10 min

I think Finley needs to play 25-30 minutes per game.

Give Oberto some of Rasho's minutes. Fabricio should play 20-22 minutes per game.

wildbill2u
10-07-2005, 03:43 PM
What do you think of an 11 men rotation with minutes sheared as follows?...
To me it looks like a reasonable amount of minutes for all the players that I think are going to play during regular season. The starters would still have minutes close to what they played last season and the new guys would get enough time to learn the system.
Beno and Marks would have to pick up the injury time that will always come around.
Well, what do you think?

Beno won't play this year?

Taladro
10-07-2005, 04:10 PM
Beno won't play this year?
What ever time he plays is going to come out from the SG and SF minutes. If he plays it will mean less minutes for Manu and/or Barry. Finley will need the 22 min to stay sharp and learn the system. He could take some minutes from Bruce when the opposing team does not have a dominant SG or SF :spin

thispego
10-07-2005, 04:16 PM
the box scores for this team are gonna be insane!! what will the odds for vbookies turnout like? anyone on this time has the chance to be scoring leader on any given night

TheWriter
10-07-2005, 04:21 PM
I think you play Horry very very limited minutes. Keep him rested for a strong playoff run.

Gummi
10-07-2005, 07:38 PM
If this roster is kept throughout the regular season, we'll see alot of blowout games this season. That means resting for our starters which means less minutes averaged by guys like Duncan, Manu, and Parker. Duncan's not going to drop to 30 minutes a night like someone said and Parker's won't drop to 30 either, Manu's probably going to stay the same around 30 and the rest is up for grabs.

We have the luxury of resting certain players against certain teams. Why play Duncan 38 minutes against the Bobcats? You know. Those games will give the reserves some big minutes.

1Parker1
10-07-2005, 09:03 PM
Do you guys think we'll still manage either the #1 or #2 spot in the defensive categories this year?