*** Official Game 2/82: Spurs @ Kings Game Thread ***

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Damn, Cousins is a nightmare matchup.

he's like prime Rasheed but bigger and more dominant in the post.

[Nathan89]

Damn, Cousins is a nightmare matchup.

He was doing the same shit last year vs GSW. He's an absolute beast. He better make the all-star game this year.

[eDizzle20]

The reserve frontline of Dedmon and Lee were great tonight. Dedmon played very good d on Cousins and Lee is such a good finisher around the rim.

[DMX7]

Green, Kawhi, LMA, and Dedmon is going to be a nice defensive 4-some.

LMA is more of an offensive guy.

[Horse]

Not sure what game you were watching, but Cousins beasted and the Spurs were out of position, playing bad defense for most of the game. The Spurs got as many gifts as Sacramento did from the refs.
Get the fuck outta here troll

[Spurtacular]

Now we have to find a PG who is a defender.

Good luck.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pretty good comparison... Dedmon seems to be more athletic than Nazr, though...

Dedmon has a potential to be a PnR threat via lobs.... if only there was a pass first PG on the roster.:depressed

[kaji157]

Damn, Cousins is a nightmare matchup.

He is Blake Griffin kind of nightmare matchup.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Way more athletic and physical.

although I have to say, we didn't hold the Pistons to 78.5 ppg in the Finals solely because of Duncan and Bowen.

[Kawhitstorm]

he's like prime Rasheed but bigger and more dominant in the post.

If Z-Bo & Sheed had a baby...

[Chinook]

He was doing the same shit last year vs GSW. He's an absolute beast. He better make the all-star game this year.

Glad to see he and Kawhi are chummy.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Good luck.

Jimmer's defense is worse than a traffic cone's.

[GSH]

I almost hate to say this, but even though Simmons did some of his old crap, he kept being aggressive and putting pressure on the defense. He got tot he line 4 times, and pitched 3 AST's. He got credited with 2 TO's, but he was probably responsible for at least a couple more. But he played with confidence and he never got hesitant, and he's always a threat to take it to the rim, which keeps defenses honest. On a not-great night, you can still understand why they kept him.

Hard to believe he only put up 2 shots, though, isn't it?

[sasaint]

Get the fuck outta here troll

The first part of his statement is true: Cousins was a beast, and the Spurs' defense was terrible until Kawhi starting his thieving.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If Z-Bo & Sheed had a baby...

Early 2000s Sheed and early 2010s Zbo before he got slow and ineffective again.

[Obstructed_View]

Damning with faint praise. Parker was pitching a perfect game until the 9 minute mark. Anything he did was going to be an improvement. :lol

Yeah, it wasn't intended to be glowing. He did his job and didn't fuck up. Not sure why some of you guys refuse to even acknowledge when he helps the team win.

[Spurtacular]

Jimmer's defense is worse than a traffic cone's.

0/10

[Horse]

The first part of his statement is true: Cousins was a beast, and the Spurs' defense was terrible until Kawhi starting his thieving.
I'I'll give him his due but he didn't shoot 36 on his own and they were generous with him also

[kaji157]

Early 2000s Sheed and early 2010s Zbo before he got slow and ineffective again.

Pretty much a bigger Zack Randolh, very similar game, just bigger.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Some of those rebounds were pretty legit, but Parker's play in the 4th was far better than anything else he did in the game. Not great, but solid, and his effort on defense went way up. As I said earlier, there's clearly something wrong with him physically.

Freezed out in the bedroom. Axelle fat post-baby frigidity syndrome, etc

[PopTheGOAT]

Age is a factor, but there's something physically wrong with him. He lost all of his explosion almost overnight.
Over night? Dude hasn't been able to do shit for 2 years except the occasional spin move (that is predictable and looks exactly the same every time). His game was all quickness and he has none now. I appreciate everything TP has done for the franchise but he's is DONE. I hope he sticks around long enough to show Murray the ropes then...adios

[Kawhitstorm]

Pau will get better (offensively at least). Not sure what Pop was thinking when he decided to have him guard arguably the most skilled bigman in the league in Boogie tbh.

Pop probably gave him an ultimatum that if he want to start then he has to guard the other teams best big-man or sit his ass on the bench. After getting pounded by Cousins in the 1st quarter, it seemed like Pau chose the latter.

It's best if he comes off the bench like Z-Bo is doing this season & not worry about getting bested on by backup centers or getting picked on by backup PGs.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Green, Kawhi, LMA, and Dedmon is going to be a nice defensive 4-some.

.... and then Mills/Enrique bring them all down

[Obstructed_View]

Get the fuck outta here troll

:lmao Fuck you, you little pussy, whining about the refs in game two of the regular season. Idiot.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Spurs haven't had an athletic big in a while. It's weird to see.

Elsie Cow... aka Francisco Elson

[Spurtacular]

Not sure what game you were watching, but Cousins beasted and the Spurs were out of position, playing bad defense for most of the game. The Spurs got as many gifts as Sacramento did from the refs.

Refs know better than to cheat much for those scrubs, tbh.

[sasaint]

Yeah, it wasn't intended to be glowing. He did his job and didn't fuck up. Not sure why some of you guys refuse to even acknowledge when he helps the team win.

I am not one of those guys. The little he did was nothing another player couldn't have done late in this game. I am not a Tony hater. I wish we had a better starter to move him to the bench, but I voted that the Spurs were NOT better without Parker.

[DMX7]

although I have to say, we didn't hold the Pistons to 78.5 ppg in the Finals solely because of Duncan and Bowen.

I guess... Pistons were also never an offensive juggernaut during that Larry Brown era.

[Obstructed_View]

I almost hate to say this, but even though Simmons did some of his old crap, he kept being aggressive and putting pressure on the defense. He got tot he line 4 times, and pitched 3 AST's. He got credited with 2 TO's, but he was probably responsible for at least a couple more. But he played with confidence and he never got hesitant, and he's always a threat to take it to the rim, which keeps defenses honest. On a not-great night, you can still understand why they kept him.

Hard to believe he only put up 2 shots, though, isn't it?

Not his fault. He played free and loose against the Warriors and wasn't asked to do a lot of ball handling. They had him running the point tonight, and to his credit, he took better care of the ball than many of us expected. He still contributed to a win and did what was asked of him.

[Kawhitstorm]

Early 2000s Sheed and early 2010s Zbo before he got slow and ineffective again.

Cousins is a giant version of Barkley & it's funny how they have beef w/ each other.:lol

[TheDoctor]

Damn, Cousins is a nightmare matchup.

He is. He would've done the same against any team in the League. he's just a beast.

[Obstructed_View]

I am not one of those guys. The little he did was nothing another player couldn't have done late in this game. I am not a Tony hater. I wish we had a better starter to move him to the bench, but I voted that the Spurs were NOT better without Parker.

Fair enough. And I agree with you on all points. I think he should be replaced in the starting lineup ASAP, and I agree that he didn't do anything special, but it was better than he's played so far in two games, and he looked like he had a pulse for the first time. In this case, Pop was right to trust him and Anderson to finish out the game. I'm seriously worried about Parker, though. He needs to heal up or retire.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I am not one of those guys. The little he did was nothing another player couldn't have done late in this game. I am not a Tony hater. I wish we had a better starter to move him to the bench, but I voted that the Spurs were NOT better without Parker.

yeah, Jacque Vaughn could have done what Tony did tonight... or better

[GSH]

Fair enough. And I agree with you on all points. I think he should be replaced in the starting lineup ASAP, and I agree that he didn't do anything special, but it was better than he's played so far in two games, and he looked like he had a pulse for the first time. In this case, Pop was right to trust him and Anderson to finish out the game. I'm seriously worried about Parker, though. He needs to heal up or retire.


Yeah, you called that in the game. I thought he was doing it on his own, but I saw you were right. Thought that was strange. Also, the way he was knocking down 3's in the first game, I was surprised that he didn't even take a single one tonight.

[Obstructed_View]

Over night? Dude hasn't been able to do shit for 2 years except the occasional spin move (that is predictable and looks exactly the same every time). His game was all quickness and he has none now. I appreciate everything TP has done for the franchise but he's is DONE. I hope he sticks around long enough to show Murray the ropes then...adios

Yeah, overnight. Note that I didn't say WHEN the night was. It damn sure wasn't last night. :lol I don't think it was two years ago, but it was probably sometime in the middle of last season. We kept waiting for him to get "healthy" and he never did. Even with the summer to recover. I think you're probably right that he's done.

[DarrinS]

He is. He would've done the same against any team in the League. he's just a beast.

Dude can shoot from distance, too. Did he even miss any of those?

[pgardn]

Dedmon already earned the starting spot over Pau.

Not yet.

He makes our second team strong it appears. AND he was in at the end of the game at least forcing Cousins to hit long shots and challenging him physically. These are the nights he is useful. If it is a game that requires some finesse and guile, we will see. The refs don't like Cousins all that much so we can beat on him a bit.

[Obstructed_View]

Dude can shoot from distance, too. Did he even miss any of those?

He shuffled his feet on one in the first quarter and got called for it. I think that one was all net too.

[PopTheGOAT]

Yeah, overnight. Note that I didn't say WHEN the night was. It damn sure wasn't last night. :lol I don't think it was two years ago, but it was probably sometime in the middle of last season. We kept waiting for him to get "healthy" and he never did. Even with the summer to recover. I think you're probably right that he's done.
I feel like he started going downhill at the end of 2014. I remember he left the thunder game 6 at half and everyone was saying that's why we won the game. He still had a little bit left that season but the downward trend started around then imo. That's over 2 years ago (which sounds crazy to me)

[sasaint]

Starting 2-0 on the road with a win over the Dubs is perfect - even if this win was not pretty.

[TheDoctor]

Dude can shoot from distance, too. Did he even miss any of those?

3/5 from deep

[ViceCity86]

TNT crew interviewing the "Portland Tan Guy"

:lmao

[TheDoctor]

Watching LAC/POR recap right now, damn, Blake looks hella ready. Gonna be a nightmare playing against that frontcourt w/ Gasoft and LMA starting.

[GSH]

Starting 2-0 on the road with a win over the Dubs is perfect - even if this win was not pretty.


I like it when the Spurs win ugly. Especially when they do it by holding the other team to 37 points on 29% shooting in the second half. I made a joke at halftime about how the Spurs aren't going to be a top defensive team this year, and then they come out and smother the Kings in the second half.

I guess it would be nice if they won by 29 every night. But with lots of new/young guys on the team, being able to come back on the road the way they did tonight, and then to be able to hang on to the lead in crunch time? That will make them a better team.

[Robz4000]

Watching LAC/POR recap right now, damn, Blake looks hella ready. Gonna be a nightmare playing against that frontcourt w/ Gasoft and LMA starting.

Not any worse than last year where Duncan couldn't do anything. At least Gasol should be able to post up DeMonkey and get him.in foul trouble. Their new bench might be a problem though.

[Obstructed_View]

I feel like he started going downhill at the end of 2014. I remember he left the thunder game 6 at half and everyone was saying that's why we won the game. He still had a little bit left that season but the downward trend started around then imo. That's over 2 years ago (which sounds crazy to me)

I'll take your word for it, but I don't mean when he started going downhill. Maybe I'm remebering it wrong, but he went from "better than anyone else we have" to "face on a milk carton" really fast. The hamstrings or the calves or something that he's fought with has just sapped his explosiveness.

[Obstructed_View]

I like it when the Spurs win ugly. Especially when they do it by holding the other team to 37 points on 29% shooting in the second half. I made a joke at halftime about how the Spurs aren't going to be a top defensive team this year, and then they come out and smother the Kings in the second half.

I guess it would be nice if they won by 29 every night. But with lots of new/young guys on the team, being able to come back on the road the way they did tonight, and then to be able to hang on to the lead in crunch time? That will make them a better team.

They got stout really quick, which was nice because nobody's jumper showed up in the second half. They weren't going to outscore anyone.

[SpurPadre]

Back from the game. A few thoughts: Really nice arena. I had a sign that read "New Arena, Same Results" that was taken away by security but I still had a good time. I'm loving Dedmon. Watching him live, his athleticism stands out being that we haven't had an athletic big in a while. I'm a little worried about TP but he showed signs of life when it mattered the most and he seems to accept his role. Same goes for Pau but he's 36 having to learn the most complex system he's ever had to learn. We just have to be patient with him. He'll come through. Lee is also better than advertised and should have played more minutes. Manu amazes me with his level of play at 39. Also, we clearly miss LDN on both ends and can't wait to see how much better he'll make the SL. Not the best of games, but the Kings played hard and would've beaten most teams tonight so it was still an impressive win.

[Obstructed_View]

Not any worse than last year where Duncan couldn't do anything. At least Gasol should be able to post up DeMonkey and get him.in foul trouble. Their new bench might be a problem though.

Yeah, but Duncan had what basically turned out to be the injury that ended his career. "Not any worse than last year" means the Spurs get bounced in the conference semis.

[TheDoctor]

Back from the game. A few thoughts: Really nice arena. I had a sign that read "New Arena, Same Results" that was taken away by security but I still had a good time. I'm loving Dedmon. Watching him live, his athleticism stands out being that we haven't had an athletic big in a while. I'm a little worried about TP but he showed signs of life when it mattered the most and he seems to accept his role. Same goes for Pau but he's 36 having to learn the most complex system he's ever had to learn. We just have to be patient with him. He'll come through. Lee is also better than advertised and should have played more minutes. Manu amazes me with his level of play at 39. Also, we clearly miss LDN on both ends and can't wait to see how much better he'll make the SL. Not the best of games, but the Kings played hard and would've beaten most teams tonight so it was still an impressive win.

Thanks for the input :tu

[playbonner15]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwRQUivXFw

[SpurPadre]

Thanks for the input :tu

Yeah, it's been a great week, man. Watching our Spurs live twice in a week has been a special treat I won't forget. Here's hoping for a very surprising season and that we defy huge odds.

[Robz4000]

Yeah, but Duncan had what basically turned out to be the injury that ended his career. "Not any worse than last year" means the Spurs get bounced in the conference semis.

By that I mean Gasol instead of Duncan. Now the Spurs also have Lee and Dedmon in the mix. While Lee won't be an upgrade on D against them he can help in the rebounding battle and drawing fouls.

[DenialTwist]

Parker and Gasol in the starting lineup is basically 3 on 5. Parker just flat out sucks man. Pau needs to come off the bench and Dedmon should be starting. I'd rather see Bertans out there instead of Anderson. God help the Spurs this season, Kawhi has to do too much because Pop and the Spurs FO want to maintain Parker's legacy by keeping him as a starter at the expense of the team.

[sasaint]

I like it when the Spurs win ugly. Especially when they do it by holding the other team to 37 points on 29% shooting in the second half. I made a joke at halftime about how the Spurs aren't going to be a top defensive team this year, and then they come out and smother the Kings in the second half.

I guess it would be nice if they won by 29 every night. But with lots of new/young guys on the team, being able to come back on the road the way they did tonight, and then to be able to hang on to the lead in crunch time? That will make them a better team.

Compared to last October, November and early December, they will probably need to win quite a few more close ones. Building a little character is always a good thing - but especially when you have had a lot of turnover of personnel and add a bunch of new/young guys. Of course ST will have a lot more meltdowns...

[timtonymanu]

I've liked what I've seen these first 2 games, tbh. Spurs are going to have lows throughout the season but they look better already than last year's playoff team. And LDN and Bertans haven't even been in the mix. I'm excited for this team.

[apalisoc_9]

opposing teams have zero respect with Parker and Anderson..

Makes it really tough to start the game offensively. Hopefully, once Green is back...the starters get a little bit more room to operate

[Darius Bieber]

I've liked what I've seen these first 2 games, tbh. Spurs are going to have lows throughout the season but they look better already than last year's playoff team. And LDN and Bertans haven't even been in the mix. I'm excited for this team.

I really am curious how Bertans mixes in. He was wet in garbage time against the Dubs. I think we'll see what Bertans can contribute during the Rodeo Road Trip and when Pop starts resting guys, giving Bertans a start perhaps against a Nets-like team.

[Obstructed_View]

By that I mean Gasol instead of Duncan. Now the Spurs also have Lee and Dedmon in the mix. While Lee won't be an upgrade on D against them he can help in the rebounding battle and drawing fouls.

And I think Gasol will start to figure stuff out as the rest of the team does. He's not ever going to be a shut-down defender, but he can block shots and be in the right place. If they teach him Rasho-type positioning, he'll make plays just with his length.

[Obstructed_View]

I really am curious how Bertans mixes in. He was wet in garbage time against the Dubs. I think we'll see what Bertans can contribute during the Rodeo Road Trip and when Pop starts resting guys, giving Bertans a start perhaps against a Nets-like team.

Bertans will crack the rotation before then, IMHO.

[From Downtown]

The SL was pretty bad tonight Kawhi aside, LMA and Pau were awful on both sides of the floor, even tho Aldridge hit some timely shots in the 4th
Parker was totally unable to male shots, passed a couple of wide open shots and struggled against Lawson most of the game, but at least he didn't force anything, it seems to me he's starting to accept his role
Kyle is just too timid right now, and that makes the spacing of the SL SO bad, I guess that will improve once Green's back, I liked his D tho

The bench was the difference again tonight, Mills had a couple of huge threes
Simmons showed his ballhandling skills are not there yet, but played hard and brought a lot of energy
Lee and Dedmon were FANTASTIC and worked well together despite having no outside shot, their offensive rebounding was key for the win and Dedmon also did alright on Cousins
Manu didn't shot well, but I liked him a lot both both on offense and defense and the team plays much better with him on the court, not just because of his playmaking but also for his smart off the ball movement

[SAGirl]

I missed this game... my life is not just responding to trolling, TBH

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv1KrIEXEAAFEgj?format=jpg&name=large

[Horse]

:lmao Fuck you, you little pussy, whining about the refs in game two of the regular season. Idiot.
While you cry about nonsense and suck off the kings. Fucking faggot

[Fireball]

Man, that was an ugly game ... Kings were on a 2b2 and ran out of gas in the 4th. Atrocious 1st half by the Spurs and thankfully Kawhi was more aggressive again in the 2nd half after he was the only one scoring in the 1st quarter. Dedmon is a worker ... now I would like him to sub in early for Gasol (an early Manu sub would be nice as well) so we have less Dedmon/Lee together. Gasol sucks right now, but I do not know why anybody thought he would be better against Boogie.

[boutons_deux]

43 pts by the bench

[DarrinS]

Is anyone in the NBA working as hard as KL on both ends of the floor? Five steals -- ridiculous.

[TheDoctor]

Is anyone in the NBA working as hard as KL on both ends of the floor? Five steals -- ridiculous.

And not just the steals, he was everywhere. Rebounding, deflecting, working the passing lanes... E V E R Y W H E R E :claw

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I like it when the Spurs win ugly. Especially when they do it by holding the other team to 37 points on 29% shooting in the second half. I made a joke at halftime about how the Spurs aren't going to be a top defensive team this year, and then they come out and smother the Kings in the second half.

I guess it would be nice if they won by 29 every night. But with lots of new/young guys on the team, being able to come back on the road the way they did tonight, and then to be able to hang on to the lead in crunch time? That will make them a better team.

This was one of those regular season playoff games. Kings came to play and they were opening up in their new house. Probably every team in the league outside of the Spurs/Cavs and possibly the Clips would have gotten beaten tonight.

[spursistan]

Someone needs to stick a helium tank line feed up his ass and turn it on and let that baloon head float to china.
Holyfuck :lmao

[xellos88330]

What corny motherfucker made this year's commercials

Relish da Corn man.... relish da corn.

[TampaDude]

2 down, 80 to go, bitches!

KL = MVP

GO SPURS GO!!!!!

[DarrinS]

And not just the steals, he was everywhere. Rebounding, deflecting, working the passing lanes... E V E R Y W H E R E :claw

:bobo :claw

[CGD]

Anyone have Dedmon highlight? Just reading about his great game. Nate Duncan was very complimentary on his podcast this morning too.

[BatManu20]

Boogie showing Kawhi love after the game.


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[raybies]

Is your feed shit? Mine has been buffering nonstop all game. Completely unwatchable tbh. :pctoss

I don't have dish any more I live in Boerne. I got gvtc now.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Boogie showing Kawhi love after the game.


791909866478579713

:lol that's awesome, love that accidental F bomb to describe how good Kawhi is. Flashes of Kobe, love it.

[peacemaker885]

Gotta give Dave Joerger props on getting this Kings playing to their potential. Not quite there yet but they could be another team to give Dubs issues.

[raybies]

Gotta give Dave Joerger props on getting this Kings playing to their potential. Not quite there yet but they could be another team to give Dubs issues.

Yeah, maybe it takes new arena, new coach, new logo to inspire a change of culture this year. Lol

Anyways they definitely have the talent. They don't need to overachiever to make the playoffs imo but if they do they could be scary. Much more ready than other trans that are fringe playoff teams like okc, Houston, Minnesota, pelicans.... I think they could easily be better. I'm impressed by them.

[all blacks]

Anyone have Dedmon highlight? Just reading about his great game. Nate Duncan was very complimentary on his podcast this morning too.
Dedmon+Lee

https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/videos/10153954044391981/

[BillMc]

What was the general consensus on the new HEB commercials?

[TheDoctor]

What was the general consensus on the new HEB commercials?

Last nite they released the first batch (3). I don't know what about the general consensus is, but I really liked Fluent! Much more than Origami and Farmers Market.

[Chinook]

What was the general consensus on the new HEB commercials?

I hated the acting in the farmers one. The Origami was pretty funny. Kawhi's role has the straight man/loveable oaf is continuing despite his star status, which I fascinating. The Spanish one was funny. It's cool to have two international stars who speak the same language but from different countries.

[BillMc]

Last nite they released the first batch (3). I don't know what about the general consensus is, but I really liked Fluent! Much more than Origami and Farmers Market.


I hated the acting in the farmers one. The Origami was pretty funny. Kawhi's role has the straight man/loveable oaf is continuing despite his star status, which I fascinating. The Spanish one was funny. It's cool to have two international stars who speak the same language but from different countries.

Thanks guys. I just reviewed them on youtube. Like you I think the Spanish one was the gem. Thought the other two were a bit forced. Still, like that our guys can laugh at themselves.

[Proxy]

Kyle is a better defender and a better rebounder. He's also 16 years younger, and it's game fucking two of the season. If this were the conference finals, I'd agree with you.

haha good point. Thinking illogically there, I wanted to see Pau and Kyle have great games. Was watching it with the Sac announcers and they did a good job of making me feel like SA was losing the entire game.

[CGD]

Dedmon+Lee

https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/videos/10153954044391981/

Thx!

[SuperCam]

wrong board whoops