View Full Version : Dewayne Dedmon, the Worst Screener in the NBA
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:06 AM
He sets some of the most useless screens I've ever seen in my 15+ years of following the NBA. He doesn't make ANY contact with the opposing player and rolls way too early. Even Splitter sets better screens. Really surprising as he's a decent rebounder and inside scorer and doesn't seem like the 'soft' type.
Basically, you're better off just isoing your defender from the perimeter than relying on a Dedmon screen.
EDIT: Never said Splitter was poor screener.
spurraider21
10-28-2016, 12:07 AM
"even splitter sets better screens"... splitter's screen game was his biggest asset to the offense you dipshit
Obstructed_View
10-28-2016, 12:08 AM
Since Splitter was the best screener this team has ever seen, I'm guessing that your 15 years of following the NBA were a waste of time.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:08 AM
Not disagreeing there. But Splitter wasn't known for his toughness.
I stopped reading at "even Splitter sets better screens". Yes, because when healthy he's one of the best pick and roll guys in the league. Try again
Dedmon needs to cut down on fouls but played great D and grabbed important boards. Everything you could hope for with that salary.
DarrinS
10-28-2016, 12:09 AM
Good rebounder
TimDunkem
10-28-2016, 12:10 AM
Damn. What a bad take.
lilbthebasedgod
10-28-2016, 12:11 AM
Seriously. He was good out there on defense but his screens were terrible.
Dedmon sets great screens, don't know what you're watching.
spurraider21
10-28-2016, 12:11 AM
thats like saying "even duncan had a better bank shot than him"
kaji157
10-28-2016, 12:12 AM
Since Splitter was the best screener this team has ever seen, I'm guessing that your 15 years of following the NBA were a waste of time.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f6/d0/60/f6d060b26b75ec4362112f957fe20bc1.jpg
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:12 AM
Damn. What a bad take.
Nah, it was a good take. Dude's screens were shit.
spurtech09
10-28-2016, 12:12 AM
Blocks and rebounds...That's all I have to say.....
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:14 AM
thats like saying "even duncan had a better bank shot than him"
You didn't get the point. It's surprising that Splitter was such a good screener as he kind of had a reputation for being soft. E.g. People on here would complain about him laying it up softly instead of dunking it. Dedmon's huge and sets some of the softest screens I've seen.
TimDunkem
10-28-2016, 12:15 AM
Nah, it was a good take. Dude's screens were shit.
Just quit while you're behind.
spurraider21
10-28-2016, 12:16 AM
Nah, it was a good take. Dude's screens were shit.lol calling your own take good
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:16 AM
Just quit while you're behind.
Nice take.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:17 AM
lol calling your own take good
Sure did! :toast
RD2191
10-28-2016, 12:18 AM
OP is a faggot.
TimDunkem
10-28-2016, 12:19 AM
OP is a faggot.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:22 AM
OP is a faggot.
We still doing this on ST? :bang Thought it became a legit Spurs forum.
ulosturedge
10-28-2016, 12:22 AM
You saw that one bad screen for Parker at the end of the game and that was it huh lol. His screens are the least of my worries atm. I'm just glad he is able to be disruptive on defense against bigs and he's a good rebounder. He also showed that he is capable around the rim if you get him the ball on the roll. I was worried for a minute that he was scrub material when he had all those lackluster games in preseason. Turns out he's going to be serviceable.
You picked a bad night to start a Piss On Dedmon thread.
Edit: BTW - they're interviewing Dedmon right now in the postgame. He's a good interview, clearly smart, and says the right things.
We still doing this on ST? :bang Thought it became a legit Spurs forum.
If it was, we wouldn't have threads like this.
Nathan89
10-28-2016, 12:33 AM
:lmao
Make this dude pay the fee to continue posting on here please.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:34 AM
If it was, we wouldn't have threads like this.
lol, threads like these which have actual basketball discussion (as opposed to trolling threads and comments)?
sasaint
10-28-2016, 12:37 AM
You picked a bad night to start a Piss On Dedmon thread.
Edit: BTW - they're interviewing Dedmon right now in the postgame. He's a good interview, clearly smart, and says the right things.
Yeah, that was the first interview of his I have seen. I hope his play will continue to grow into those interviews.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 12:39 AM
You picked a bad night to start a Piss On Dedmon thread.
Edit: BTW - they're interviewing Dedmon right now in the postgame. He's a good interview, clearly smart, and says the right things.
Pissing on one aspect of his game. Dude isn't immune from criticism.
BoricuaCJA
10-28-2016, 12:40 AM
OP is a faggot.
Yep.
Obstructed_View
10-28-2016, 12:45 AM
lol, threads like these which have actual basketball discussion (as opposed to trolling threads and comments)?
Threads like these which have someone making a complete doucheknuckle out of himself by nitpicking a guy who played great and then saying that he had the second worst screens behind the best screener the team has ever had?
Yeah. Gotta vote with the "OP is a faggot" crowd on this one.
SnakeBoy
10-28-2016, 12:58 AM
Screens aren't my big concern with Dedmon, it's his inability to protect the rim that has me concerned. Even DRob could protect the rim better than Dedmon.
100%duncan
10-28-2016, 03:27 AM
Dedmon did fine tbh. We finally have a tough big on the bench the does the dirty work. He did decent covering Cousins
Arcadian
10-28-2016, 03:30 AM
Even DRob could protect the rim better than Dedmon.
:lol
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 04:14 AM
Threads like these which have someone making a complete doucheknuckle out of himself by nitpicking a guy who played great and then saying that he had the second worst screens behind the best screener the team has ever had?
Yeah. Gotta vote with the "OP is a faggot" crowd on this one.
Never said he was the second worst screener. I said he was THE WORST.:rollin Reading comprehension's not your strong point.
Other than his screens, he played great. Kudos to him.
buttsR4rebounding
10-28-2016, 06:02 AM
Let's see if he improves. LMA set the matador screens last year, but has been much better so far this year.
Just watch some JohnRambo vidoes on youtube, where Splitter`s PnR are pure gold to watch
Chinook
10-28-2016, 06:20 AM
I'd trade Pau, Dedmon and Lee in a heartbeat for a Prime Tiago that would give me 76 games and a full post-season. In a goddamned heartbeat, "soft" or no.
Anyway, I actually thought Dedmon screened fine. It's just that people didn't really want to use his screens, so he just kept diving. Had it been someone looking to actually attack instead of pass, they'd've been able to get open lanes.
TrainOfThought5
10-28-2016, 06:33 AM
Since Splitter was the best screener this team has ever seen, I'm guessing that your 15 years of following the NBA were a waste of time.
r0drig0lac
10-28-2016, 06:41 AM
Screens aren't my big concern with Dedmon, it's his inability to protect the rim that has me concerned. Even DRob could protect the rim better than Dedmon.
agree
You didn't get the point. It's surprising that Splitter was such a good screener as he kind of had a reputation for being soft. E.g. People on here would complain about him laying it up softly instead of dunking it. Dedmon's huge and sets some of the softest screens I've seen.
Splitter had a reputation for getting injured easily, which he did. But he wasn't soft by any means. Dude banged with any big man you matched him up against. The reason he rarely dunked it was because he has small hands so he couldn't really go up with just one hand and palm the ball, it was much quicker and easier for him to lay it up. Your Splitter takes are trash
I'd trade Pau, Dedmon and Lee in a heartbeat for a Prime Tiago that would give me 76 games and a full post-season. In a goddamned heartbeat, "soft" or no.
http://i.imgur.com/JSBTl.gif
Spurs fan took Tiago for granted, tbh. Didn't know what we had until it was gone. :cry
Come back home, Tiago. :cry
AFBlue
10-28-2016, 09:20 AM
Is your next thread going to be "Patty Mills is a terrible passer" after a game where he goes 10/10 from 3 and has two steals?
You may not have been intentionally trolling, but this thread makes no sense. The only player on the Spurs without an apparent weakness is the guy with legitimate MVP consideration.
Dedmon, poor screener or not, is a very valuable asset to this team for the unique things he does bring...mobility on defense and shot-blocking. You should try focusing on that.
bigfan
10-28-2016, 09:30 AM
Dedmon is still relatively young and will get better with Spurs coaching over the year. He seems to be a guy who could develop into an enforcer type center (like Willis) and it would not surprise me to see him as our starting center for the long term.
TampaDude
10-28-2016, 09:47 AM
OP is a faggot.
Indeed.
Boomersgold
10-28-2016, 09:53 AM
Is your next thread going to be "Patty Mills is a terrible passer" after a game where he goes 10/10 from 3 and has two steals?
You may not have been intentionally trolling, but this thread makes no sense. The only player on the Spurs without an apparent weakness is the guy with legitimate MVP consideration.
Dedmon, poor screener or not, is a very valuable asset to this team for the unique things he does bring...mobility on defense and shot-blocking. You should try focusing on that.
Terrible strawman. No, calling out a player's weakness, which he could improve upon, is not trolling. Never said he wasn't a valuable asset to this team. If Patty, as the point guard, averages 0 assists per game, but scores 10-15 points per game (more realistic), someone should create a thread criticising his selfishness/lack of creating for his teammates.
NameLess Scrub
10-28-2016, 11:29 AM
Splitter had a reputation for getting injured easily, which he did. But he wasn't soft by any means. Dude banged with any big man you matched him up against. The reason he rarely dunked it was because he has small hands so he couldn't really go up with just one hand and palm the ball, it was much quicker and easier for him to lay it up. Your Splitter takes are trash
That's interesting about his hands (no sarcasm). I'm not too far from being able to palm the ball, and I'm not even 6' tall.
How come a 7 footer cannot palm the ball?
Seventyniner
10-28-2016, 12:55 PM
How come a 7 footer cannot palm the ball?
Small hands obv
NameLess Scrub
10-28-2016, 01:39 PM
Small hands obv
Hehehe.. :rolleyes
How come a 7 footer has hands so small he can't palm the ball?
Hehehe.. :rolleyes
How come a 7 footer has hands so small he can't palm the ball?
There's "palming the ball"... then there's palming the ball with control. He doesn't have micro-hands, but they are small for a 7-footer. For whatever reason he just couldnt palm the ball with control. It's why whenever he dunked with one hand, he would more or less guide the ball in. It was also rare. Like the time he got stuffed by Bron.
NameLess Scrub
10-28-2016, 10:59 PM
There's "palming the ball"... then there's palming the ball with control. He doesn't have micro-hands, but they are small for a 7-footer. For whatever reason he just couldnt palm the ball with control. It's why whenever he dunked with one hand, he would more or less guide the ball in. It was also rare. Like the time he got stuffed by Bron.
Thanks
FuzzyLumpkins
10-29-2016, 03:22 PM
If the defense hedges and the ball handler doesn't go strongside or if the defender goes under/over the screen enough then the answer is not to just stand there. You cannot move and make contact either.
BillMc
10-29-2016, 03:35 PM
Even Tony could seduce teammates' wives better than Dedmon.
TD 21
10-29-2016, 05:05 PM
He's not even the worst screen setter on the team, that distinction belongs to Aldridge.
I know Dedmon's incorrectly listed as 7-0, but at 6-10 barefoot, he isn't even that in shoes. You wouldn't call someone 5-10 a "6-footer", so why would you do the equivalent with someone a foot taller? I see this all the time when people refer to tall basketball players and it doesn't make any sense.
Stabula
10-29-2016, 06:18 PM
Boban "The Giant" Marjanovic was a much worse screener.
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