Kawhi Leonard is the second best player in the world...Anyone who disagrees

[apalisoc_9]

needs to be labeled the ultimate casual fan...

Lebron-Kawhi




Irrelevant fags

[lilbthebasedgod]

There are a few. He could be up there though. He might be no.2

[YGWHI]

:claw

[HarlemHeat37]

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Only 3 players have a Finals MVP + DPOY ^^^

Only 2 players have won MVP and DPOY in the same season..add a 3rd to the list, this season, tbh..

[apalisoc_9]

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Only 3 players have a Finals MVP + DPOY ^^^

Only 2 players have won MVP and DPOY in the same season..add a 3rd to the list, this season, tbh..

Thats four of the five best two way players of all time tbh.

[dabom]

Kawhi is the best player this year. Fuck Lebeta.

[Arcadian]

I see him overtaking Lebron this season.

[ducks]

Right now he is the best let's hope he can lead the team to a title

[TimDunkem]

Best in the world or not, it's amazing how far he's come.

[SuperCam]

a kawhi led team has to get past the second round before you crown him tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

a kawhi led team has to get past the second round before you crown him tbh...

A Kawhi-led team won the Finals already. Meanwhile, a Cum Newton "led" team has never won shit and will never win shit.

[SnakeBoy]

Gotta wait until the playoffs to call him #2 but through 2 games he's looking like he has finally made the leap to greatness.

[Spurtacular]

Kawhi is the best player this year. Fuck Lebeta.

Yet you couldn't own that in your faggoty OP. :lmao

[SuperCam]

nba history littered with regular season media darlings that falter in the playoffs, like those SSOL phoenix teams, tbh. need to see him as a first option get to WCF first for sure.

[Clipper Nation]

nba history littered with regular season media darlings that falter in the playoffs, like those SSOL phoenix teams, tbh. need to see him as a first option get to WCF first for sure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZaUp4bugbk

[skin27]

Kawhi is great at regular season only and choke so bad in the playoffs atleast last year when he was the first option..he needs to carry the team especially in the playoffs!!

[Mikeanaro]

Looking good.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Definitely not the twinkie with the mouthpiece, the mouth breathing harambe, or the pizza face.

[SuperCam]

Kawhi is great at regular season only and choke so bad in the playoffs atleast last year when he was the first option..he needs to carry the team especially in the playoffs!!

very astute post... we saw this last year... kiwi went from above 50% on field goals in reg season to below during the conference semis and let Roberson go off, losing 4-2 despite HCA. He's gotta get this team past the second round if he is to take the next step.

[Clipper Nation]

Kawhi is great at regular season only and choke so bad in the playoffs atleast last year when he was the first option..he needs to carry the team especially in the playoffs!!


very astute post... we saw this last year... kiwi went from above 50% on field goals in reg season to below during the conference semis and let Roberson go off, losing 4-2 despite HCA. He's gotta get this team past the second round if he is to take the next step.
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[PopTheGOAT]

I agree. I think Kawhi is the 2nd best player in the world. I also think LeBron will try to preserve his 31 going on 32 yr old self for the playoffs. That means an easier path for a KL MVP.

Lebron at a full go is still more athletic w better passing ability and vision that Kawhi.
Kawhi plays better defense, has a better jumper, and has youth.

In the end I think Lebron's experience wins out but it won't be long until Kawhi overtakes him.

[Nathan89]

Good thing we didn't trade him for Beal and Ariza.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

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[midnightpulp]

I told you he was the 2nd best player in the world last season.

Wardell has no defensive responsibility. None.

[pgardn]

Best in the world or not, it's amazing how far he's come.

Absolutely amazing. And he deserves it.

Others need to hold with the premature ejaculations though until he leads us to a title. Jordan and Hakeem already... Don't go Paul George on us quite yet.

[Tully365]

Funny, just three days ago, OP predicted the Spurs would suffer an "Embarrassing beatdown" at the hands of the Warriors... I guess he didn't believe too much in Kawhi's ability to lead his team to a win against Golden State.

[-21-]

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Only 3 players have a Finals MVP + DPOY ^^^

Only 2 players have won MVP and DPOY in the same season..add a 3rd to the list, this season, tbh..

Tim should be on there. Still can't get over Camby, Noah and Gasol getting DPOY over him.

[Arcadian]

LeBron will try to preserve his 31 going on 32 yr old self for the playoffs. That means an easier path for a KL MVP.

Exactly. Lebron is at that age where he's still in his prime, but only for the playoffs. MVP is a regular season award. Kawhi is 25, just entering his prime. He should win it.

[100%duncan]

Exactly. Lebron is at that age where he's still in his prime, but only for the playoffs. MVP is a regular season award. Kawhi is 25, just entering his prime. He should win it.

Yeah and with kd and curry sharing votes, Kawhi's main competition is a Westbrook who's not going to win that many games.

[dbreiden83080]

Stephen A would still take Melo over him.

[dbreiden83080]

Tim should be on there. Still can't get over Camby, Noah and Gasol getting DPOY over him.

Considering he got the votes for league MVP twice. I never got why he didn't get the DPOY love?

[r0drig0lac]

Best in the world or not, it's amazing how far he's come.

this,the guy is a beast

[jsandiego]

Considering he got the votes for league MVP twice. I never got why he didn't get the DPOY love?
1. We had DRob and Bowen on the team at various times splitting votes.

2. Before advanced stats caught on, and voters were enamored with Blocked Shots statistics.

3. Usually favors a player that is defensive minded only (Wallace, Camby, etc.)

[Ice009]

1. We had DRob and Bowen on the team at various times splitting votes.

2. Before advanced stats caught on, and voters were enamored with Blocked Shots statistics.

3. Usually favors a player that is defensive minded only (Wallace, Camby, etc.)

Camby's award is a joke. He blocked some shots, that's all he did to get that award. His actual defense was very, very average. And what is most funny about that is that in the playoffs he didn't even guard TD. He wasn't good enough. They gave the assignment to Nene.

[bigfan]

After 2 games the only guy Id take over KL is LBJ and even that is a close call. Lets pray he stays healthy.

[TampaDude]

After 2 games the only guy Id take over KL is LBJ and even that is a close call. Lets pray he stays healthy.

^ this

A healthy KL is key for a deep playoff run. :toast

[james evans]

I think Pop's babysitting(resting) will hurt his mvp chances

[james evans]

Camby's award is a joke. He blocked some shots, that's all he did to get that award. His actual defense was very, very average. And what is most funny about that is that in the playoffs he didn't even guard TD. He wasn't good enough. They gave the assignment to Nene.
You want to know whose award was a joke? Marc Gasol

[spursistan]

I told you he was the 2nd best player in the world last season.

Wardell has no defensive responsibility. None.
the power of the PPG man!:lol

Kawhi is probably going to be near 24-25 point per game to take the MVP home from Lebron and the apology-vote already cast for him..

[tim_duncan_fan]

I just want to know how Pop and RC had any idea this could happen, given what Kawhi was in college. Goddamned wizards.

[Dingle Barry]

I just want to know how Pop and RC had any idea this could happen, given what Kawhi was in college. Goddamned wizards.
They have said repeatedly that he's far surpassed their greatest of hopes.

[dabom]

Coach Bud had to convince Pop.

[spursistan]

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NBA has an offense-bias..none of the other MVP contenders is in Kawhi's stratosphere on the defensive end..only Playoffs- nay Finals- Lebron is anywhere near him..:lol

I don't care: if Kawhi averages 23-25 PPG/7 RPG/3-4 APG/ with DPOY-level D, he should get the award with Spurs as a top 2 seed..

[Chinook]

I've been saying that Duncan's absence helps Kawhi because there were so many media heads who assumed that meant the end of the Spurs' glory run. But nope. Just the start of another one.

I drafted Kawhi fourth in my fantasy league. I only had Westbrook slotted ahead of him. Curry and KAT were the other two that moved ahead. I feel like I lucked out. If Kawhi stays healthy, he's going to finish in the top slot for FBB points. Drafted Danny too (of course), so I'm hoping both halves of Wingstop carry me to another title.

[PopTheGOAT]

Spurs got this dude for George freakin Hill :lol
People joke that "we could have had Paul George" :rolleyes That joke isn't even relevant anymore because Kawhi is way better than PG :claw

[lefty]

Kobe tbh

[Kawhitstorm]

I disagree, Kawhi is the best player in the league.:claw

[HankChinaski]

He straight up mugged McLemore of his purse with that 2nd steal. Completely stripped him of the ball and his manhood

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't care: if Kawhi averages 23-25 PPG/7 RPG/3-4 APG/ with DPOY-level D, he should get the award with Spurs as a top 2 seed..

If you look at it, Softridge isn't better than Bosh & Pau/Porker aren't better than Wade. So, if the Spurs can win 60+ games then Kawhi should get the MVP like Lebron did in the '11-'12 lockout season when the Heat finished w/ a 46-20 record (62 wins). The Heat only had the 4th best record in the league & LeBron hadn't won a championship yet after choking against the Mavs.

'11-'12 LeBron: 27/8/6/2 (PER: 30.7; WS/48: .298; TS: 60%)

'15-'16 Kawhi : 21/7/3/2 (PER: 26, WS/48: .277, TS%: 616)

Kawhi so far this season: 32/4/4/5 (PER: 40; WS/48: .487; TS: 62%):wow

It fairly conceivable that Kawhi can average something like 26/6/4/3 (PER: 28, WS/48: .29 TS: 60%), which would be better any of LeBron's past two seasons. At the end of the day, it going to come down to wins just like when Kirby stole Choke-P3's MVP in 2008.:lol
If the Spurs finish w/ a better record than the Duds/Cavs then Kawhi should be the unanimous MVP.:wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

He straight up mugged McLemore of his purse with that 2nd steal. Completely stripped him of the ball and his manhood

Only Curry has been mugged that badly on a basketball court but he gets a pass b/c he's light skin.

[spursistan]

If you look at it, Softridge isn't better than Bosh & Pau/Porker aren't better than Wade. So, if the Spurs can win 60+ games then Kawhi should get the MVP like Lebron did in the '11-'12 lockout season when the Heat finished w/ a 46-20 record (62 wins). The Heat only had the 4th best record in the league & LeBron hadn't won a championship yet after choking against the Mavs.

'11-'12 LeBron: 27/8/6/2 (PER: 30.7; WS/48: .298; TS: 60%)

'15-'16 Kawhi : 21/7/3/2 (PER: 26, WS/48: .277, TS%: 616)

Kawhi so far this season: 32/4/4/5 (PER: 40; WS/48: .487; TS: 62%):wow

It fairly conceivable that Kawhi can average something like 26/6/4/3 (PER: 28, WS/48: .29 TS: 60%), which would be better any of LeBron's past two seasons. At the end of the day, it going to come down to wins just like when Kirby stole Choke-P3's MVP in 2008.:lol
If the Spurs finish w/ a better record than the Duds/Cavs then Kawhi should be the unanimous MVP.:wakeup

His window for MVP is this season and next two before other generational talents (Towns/AD) enter their prime or play for contending teams..I'm almost sure Dominoes is out of it even if they win 65-70 games..There will be Curry-fatigue and he will split votes with Durbeta ala Blake/CP3..The Thunder and Rockets are looking like low 40-win teams .No chance for Harden/Westbrick..:lol...It is Lebron and his apology votes...Also Kawhi can't afford these weird injuries, and will need to be suited up for at least 75 games..

[Kawhitstorm]

It is Lebron and his apology votes...Also Kawhi can't afford these weird injuries, and will need to be suited up for at least 75 games..

The best I can compare it to is the 2008 MVP race when CP3 was carrying the Hornets but Kirby got the MVP b/c the Lakers finished with one more win than the Hornets despite having a better supporting cast. That was essentially an apology vote for Kirby after he missed out in 2006 & most of the voters said it came down to the last week of the season.

Pop probably won't give away wins at the end of the season by sitting starters considering they will be in a dog fight w/ the Cripples for HCA.

[BD24]

Man was just looking at the boxscore from last night and noticed he got 5 steals again. This cat is averaging 5 fucking steals a game. I know its only 2 games in, but man.

[Kawhitstorm]

Man was just looking at the boxscore from last night and noticed he got 5 steals again. This cat is averaging 5 fucking steals a game. I know its only 2 games in, but man.

Only player in NBA history w/ back-to-back 30/5 games to start a season.:claw

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[skin27]

i agree his in the top 3 player in the nba but he needs to perform better in the playoffs as the first option and carry the spurs to their 6th championship!!:claw

[daslicer]

One thing I have noticed is that Kawhi is now finally get star treatment by the refs. This is great for his confidence knowing that he can get to the freethrow line is a huge boost mentally on the offensive end. It's helpful that when Kawhi is not shooting well that he can rack up a bunch of points at the freethrow line.

[Spurtacular]

needs to be labeled the ultimate casual fan...

Player fan bragging about second best :lmao

[spursistan]

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[hater]

He is behind Levron, Eestchuck, Durant, griffiths

Hes 5th best in the world and cant carry a team

[Horse]

He is behind Levron, Eestchuck, Durant, griffiths

Hes 5th best in the world and cant carry a team
Man you're dumb Durant and griffin don't even play D.

[SuperCam]

3-13 mvp :lmao

too tired to play more than 32 minutes a game :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

3-13 mvp :lmao

too tired to play more than 32 minutes a game :lmao
:rollin

[Clipper Nation]

"MVParker," the "head of the snake," had shooting nights of 4-11, 0-6, 3-11, 5-15 and 4-12 in a playoff series against a Clippers team with a significantly worse defense than this one. Meanwhile, his fluffers are circlejerking over one bad regular-season shooting night for Kawhi in October. Porker stans are truly delusional.

Your offense wasn't even the problem, anyway. You scored 92 against a defense that has only been giving up about 90 points per game. The story of the game was defense: the Clippers played it, the Spurs didn't. And Porker's morbidly obese, non-defense-playing ass was not going to change that; he'd only have made things worse.

[dabom]

"MVParker," the "head of the snake," had shooting nights of 4-11, 0-6, 3-11, 5-15 and 4-12 in a playoff series against a Clippers team with a significantly worse defense than this one. Meanwhile, his fluffers are circlejerking over one bad regular-season shooting night for Kawhi in October. Porker stans are truly delusional.

Your offense wasn't even the problem, anyway. You scored 92 against a defense that has only been giving up about 90 points per game. The story of the game was defense: the Clippers played it, the Spurs didn't. And Porker's morbidly obese, non-defense-playing ass was not going to change that; he'd only have made things worse.

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

He is behind Levron, Eestchuck, Durant, griffiths

Hes 5th best in the world and cant carry a team
Harden and Davis as well tbh. 7th ain't too bad. Should be a second option at best

[SuperCam]

Harden and Davis as well tbh. 7th ain't too bad. Should be a second option at best

7th in the regulr season but closer to 70th in the playoffs since he has tried to lead tbh

[Kawhitstorm]

7th in the regulr season but closer to 70th in the playoffs since he has tried to lead tbh

Nobody asked you about Cum Newton

[SASdynasty!]

a kawhi led team has to get past the second round before you crown him tbh...
Tbh

[SASdynasty!]

A Kawhi-led team won the Finals already. Meanwhile, a Cum Newton "led" team has never won shit and will never win shit.
2014:

All Star - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
All-NBA - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Finals) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)

[SuperCam]

2014:

All Star - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
All-NBA - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Finals) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)


damn nig you killed 'im :toast

[SASdynasty!]

Serious question: how many MVP candidates' career high is 35 points?

[TheGreatYacht]

2014:

All Star - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
All-NBA - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (RS) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in assists (Playoffs) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
Led Spurs in scoring (Finals) - Parker (Yes) Kawhi (No)
SasDynasty going in raw with no Vaseline :wow

[TheGreatYacht]

7th in the regulr season but closer to 70th in the playoffs since he has tried to lead tbh
I don't see how anyone can disagree tbh. Facts

[bic50]

:lol These fraudulent bitches above me.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

I love Kawhi but I don't agree that he is the second best player in the world. I would say he is probably Top 5 and definitely Top 10. If you asked most general managers in the NBA they wouldn't select Lebron first and Kawhi second when starting a team.

[Ice009]

He needs to be better and more consistent on offense in big games (playoffs and matchups against the best teams in the regular season) to be considered as the second best player behind Lebron.

I don't think there's ever been a defensive player (no matter how good they are on defense) that's faltered on offense in the playoffs considered a top two player in the NBA. If there has, please name me one.

He's a great all around player, but that doesn't mean that he's the second best player in the NBA. Offense and scoring is a huge key to winning in the playoffs, probably more so than defense. Since he's now the leader and best player on the team, he has to be much better on offense if we're going to do anything in the playoffs, if not, the Spurs have no chance in winning it all.

[bic50]

I love Kawhi but I don't agree that he is the second best player in the world. I would say he is probably Top 5 and definitely Top 10. If you asked most general managers in the NBA they wouldn't select Lebron first and Kawhi second when starting a team.
I can respect this post.

[TheGreatYacht]

I can respect this post.
No one needs your approval faggot

[bic50]

No one needs your approval faggot
This little twat is mad :lol

[Chillen]

He's in the top 5 for sure.

1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Chris Paul

[TheGreatYacht]

He's in my Top 7 or 8, for sure.

[bic50]

He's in my Top 7 or 8, for sure.
I kinda respect this post.

[tonight...you]

I kinda respect this post.

bic50 throwing down a little bit of awesome tonight...you, I mean tonight.

[alpha_HaZE]

needs to be labeled the ultimate casual fan...

Lebron-Kawhi




Irrelevant fags

Hey, how about saying this; At certain nights Kawhi can be the best player on the floor. He did it against Lebron's Heat and Steph's n KD's Warriors. He can also be the 3rd best player on the floor, like the clippers this past game or OKC last playoffs.

And that's pretty much it. If we are going to win it all, it will be a team effort. Kawhi being the second best nba player is truly irrelevant, other than Spurs Porn of course.

[TheGreatYacht]

I kinda respect this post.
:lol

[313]

"MVParker," the "head of the snake," had shooting nights of 4-11, 0-6, 3-11, 5-15 and 4-12 in a playoff series against a Clippers team with a significantly worse defense than this one. Meanwhile, his fluffers are circlejerking over one bad regular-season shooting night for Kawhi in October. Porker stans are truly delusional.I didn't know old and washed up Parker, playing against a prime top 5 PG ever, was the bar we were setting for Kawhi. TO make it even worse, Kawhi was a lottery pick, and Parker was barely a first round pick, they should hardly be held to the same standards. But if you must...

How about Parker at 24. 30-6 to close out PHO, 21-5-5 and +20 to close out Utah. Also had a 14 assist game that series. At 24 he had great series against top 10 PGs like Nash, and D Will while Kawhi allows the Matt Barnes, Dion Waiters, and Andre Robertsons of the league to enforce their will upon him :lmao Of course, can't forget the FMVP against the Cavs.

"Booby Gibson :lol" Go back and watch the tape dickheads. Lebron was guarding him just as much that series and it didn't matter. Well deserved FMVP imho.


Your offense wasn't even the problem, anyway. You scored 92 against a defense that has only been giving up about 90 points per game. The story of the game was defense: the Clippers played it, the Spurs didn't. And Porker's morbidly obese, non-defense-playing ass was not going to change that; he'd only have made things worse.
"You scored 92 against a defense that has only been giving up about 90 points per game."

:lmao are you dumb? We were scoring 100+ pretty much every game except the Utah loss, so if their defense held us to basically 90 I think they did something right.

"And Porker's morbidly obese, non-defense-playing ass was not going to change that; he'd only have made things worse."

Our two most played lineups, have our two best +/- and they both include Tony :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

I didn't know old and washed up Parker, playing against a prime top 5 PG ever, was the bar we were setting for Kawhi. TO make it even worse, Kawhi was a lottery pick, and Parker was barely a first round pick, they should hardly be held to the same standards. But if you must...

How about Parker at 24. 30-6 to close out PHO, 21-5-5 and +20 to close out Utah. Also had a 14 assist game that series. At 24 he had great series against top 10 PGs like Nash, and D Will while Kawhi allows the Matt Barnes, Dion Waiters, and Andre Robertsons of the league to enforce their will upon him :lmao Of course, can't forget the FMVP against the Cavs.

"Booby Gibson :lol" Go back and watch the tape dickheads. Lebron was guarding him just as much that series and it didn't matter. Well deserved FMVP imho.


"You scored 92 against a defense that has only been giving up about 90 points per game."

:lmao are you dumb? We were scoring 100+ pretty much every game except the Utah loss, so if their defense held us to basically 90 I think they did something right.

"And Porker's morbidly obese, non-defense-playing ass was not going to change that; he'd only have made things worse."

Our two most played lineups, have our two best +/- and they both include Tony :lmao
Regulating CuckerNation per usual :wow

[phxspurfan]

stop making threads

[SuperCam]

Hey, how about saying this; At certain nights Kawhi can be the best player on the floor. He did it against Lebron's Heat and Steph's n KD's Warriors. He can also be the 3rd best player on the floor, like the clippers this past game or OKC last playoffs.

And that's pretty much it. If we are going to win it all, it will be a team effort. Kawhi being the second best nba player is truly irrelevant, other than Spurs Porn of course.


Kiwistans constantly trying to sneak this one by :lmao

http://i.imgur.com/XTB8AV6.png

[alpha_HaZE]

Kiwistans constantly trying to sneak this one by :lmao

http://i.imgur.com/XTB8AV6.png

at certain nights, Yes, never said Kawhi had a better series than Lebron.

Peace,

[apalisoc_9]

Called it before media caught up.