Who are we blaming for this L ?

[Silver&Black]

Porker?
FatHead?
Pop?
Amuseddaysleeper?

[dabom]

All the above. :lmao

[100%duncan]

All the above. :lmao

/thread

[raybies]

Amused

[Chris]

Amused

tbh; game thread curse :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Eh, Utah has had our number in years past, they always seem to play us well, and add in the fact that Hill got a huge boner because he was playing us... I figured we would split with Utah in our 2 game series with them. We will win by 10+ in Utah. Cant win em all

[DarrinS]

Damn. There goes that 82-0 season.

[r0drig0lac]

Amused for sure

[BillMc]

Amused
Pop
Simmons
Canada

[dabom]

Eh, Utah has had our number in years past, they always seem to play us well, and add in the fact that Hill got a huge boner because he was playing us... I figured we would split with Utah in our 2 game series with them. We will win by 10+ in Utah. Cant win em all

Actually they don't. And that dalaman guy gets shit on all the time. :lol

[tonight...you]

That fucker better step off from Game Threads... I mean...

[Arcadian]

Utah made their shots.

[Silver&Black]

tbh; game thread curse :lol

Never again, Chris. If he makes another game thread....I'll make one in the fucking Pistons forum and post by myself down there.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Amused should be given aids he's screwed this franchise more than most realize

[apalisoc_9]

Anderson, Porker amd Mills killed the spurs on defense tonight. Really a night we could have used DG.

[ElNono]

Lack of consistency... we talked about this after the 1st game, tbh...

[tonight...you]

Actually they don't. And that dalaman guy gets shit on all the time. :lol
He's still thinking about dem Stockton/Malone days, I guess.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Kawhi is the alpha so you gotta blame him. He was atrocious in 4th. Missed/forced shots, turnovers etc

[Dre_7]

No one. Or maybe the Jazz. It happens in an 82 game season. Move on to the next one.

[Chris]

Never again, Chris. If he makes another game thread....I'll make one in the fucking Pistons forum and post by myself down there.

:lol

[Silver&Black]

Really a night we could have used DG.

True...

[dabom]

Kawhi is the alpha so you gotta blame him. He was atrocious in 4th. Missed/forced shots, turnovers etc

Kinda game over when Porker just hands them the ball in the fourth to kill the run. :lmao

[Darius Bieber]

Definitely start to panic when we lost in Utah by 30.

[tonight...you]

Never again, Chris. If he makes another game thread....I'll make one in the fucking Pistons forum and post by myself down there.
I'll perform voodoo rituals in said thread to offset the shit mojo.
Just lemme know...

[100%duncan]

Anderson, Porker amd Mills killed the spurs on defense tonight. Really a night we could have used DG.

Pop for playing them.

[tonight...you]

Kinda game over when Porker just hands them the ball in the fourth to kill the run. :lmao
He handed them the game long before that, tbh...

[siraulo23]

Eh, Utah has had our number in years past, they always seem to play us well, and add in the fact that Hill got a huge boner because he was playing us... I figured we would split with Utah in our 2 game series with them. We will win by 10+ in Utah. Cant win em all

what?

[Barfunk]

Spurs are the better team, but they took the Jazz too lightly early on and it cost them.

[YGWHI]

POP
weak rotations, poor calling plays

PARKER
other teams are planning to attack him in every possession and Pop still gets him on the court.
Hill defending by Parker=goes supernova...Joe being MIA all game, then defending by Parker=makes shots...

SIMMS
can't hit an ocean 1-7

[100%duncan]

Kawhi is the alpha so you gotta blame him. He was atrocious in 4th. Missed/forced shots, turnovers etc

DXUAyRRkI6k

[SpursforSix]

Blaming a good game from G Hill and timely 3 point shooting from the Jazz. Sometimes you just lose.

[LakerHater]

Manu & Simms

[MAxEric]

Less TP and more Mills
Simmons should come off the bench, Anderson should start at Sg

KL should be in attack mode from the beginning of the game...
next match should use KL on hill earlier in this game and shut down hood!!

[ElNono]

You can put it on Manu, tbh... he hasn't been good on offense the last couple game.

We're gonna lose some games to bottom feeders. Happened in the TD era, will happen now, tbh...

[spurtech09]

Utah was on fire tonight.....Won't be making those shots next game....

[Mikeanaro]

Porker.

[PopTheGOAT]

BLAME DISTRIBUTION:
80% Amused

10% Typical Pop not giving a shit with lineups (and in reality, this is the reasoning for almost half of Spurs losses in every regular season)

5% Sloppy play

5% Jizz going GSW mode

[YGWHI]

Kawhi is the alpha so you gotta blame him. He was atrocious in 4th. Missed/forced shots, turnovers etc
Stop trolling :lmao

Just 1 turnover in the 4th, 2 in the whole game... 'Atrocious' :lol

[ElNono]

Diaw, tbh

[Silver&Black]

1st Q was just too much to overcome. 38 fucking points, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

Good call on the Diaw ElNono. That's why you're a legend.

[tonight...you]

POP
weak rotations, poor calling plays

PARKER
other teams are planning to attack him in every possessions and Pop still get him on the court.
Hill defending by Parker=goes supernova...Joe being MIA all game, then defending by Parker=makes shots...

SIMMS
can't hit an ocean 1-7
Simmons is a pure shooter.
A purely shitty shooter...

[coachmac87]

Jazz hit some tough shots tonight and always give Spurs trouble due to familiar systems

[ElNono]

Good call on the Diaw ElNono. That's why you're a legend.

:tu

[bic50]

Kawhi is the alpha so you gotta blame him. He was atrocious in 4th. Missed/forced shots, turnovers etc
You called kawhi beta in another thread. Make up your mind dummy.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

what?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKYfbLuqyNo

and they have won 3 of the last 8. Not bad for them considering we have been favored in every game.

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu - 1/5fg
Mills - 4/8fg
Dedmon - 0/3fg
Lee - 2/3fg
Anderson - 0/3fg

Bench got outscored 45 to 23

[YGWHI]

Blaming a good game from G Hill and timely 3 point shooting from the Jazz. Sometimes you just lose.

Obviously the Spurs will lose games in the season. But the good game from Hill had to do with our defense, especially Parker/Simms, they were horrible on that end...

[SpursforSix]

Obviously the Spurs will lose games in the season. But the good game from Hill had to do with our defense, especially Parker/Simms, they were horrible on that end...

I agree. Hill was agressive and it exposed some of the Spurs weaknesses. Hopefully, when Green gets back, they'll have better containment.

[MaNu4Tres]

Parker got 32 minutes, Mills got 14.......

Pop's terrible lineups.

Andersons love for the in and out hesitation dribble into two defenders and his own teammate -- its his only move right now on the court.

Manu had a bad game.

Bad defensive rotations (I.E: having two guys running out to the same shooter, leading to the next pass to the wide open shooter).

Just a terrible game all around mostly on Pop, Tony, Anderson, Manu and the defense.

[SupremeGuy]

Porker?
FatHead?
Pop?
Amuseddaysleeper?


All the above. :lmaoPretty much. Fuck. :lol

[100%duncan]

You can put it on Manu, tbh... he hasn't been good on offense the last couple game.

We're gonna lose some games to bottom feeders. Happened in the TD era, will happen now, tbh...

Those turnovers are game-losing, but not blaming him.

[YGWHI]

I agree. Hill was agressive and it exposed some of the Spurs weaknesses. Hopefully, when Green gets back, they'll have better containment.
:tu

I just hope it takes him less than the 3 weeks that the team said

[tonight...you]

You can put it on Manu, tbh... he hasn't been good on offense the last couple game.

We're gonna lose some games to bottom feeders. Happened in the TD era, will happen now, tbh...
He's been throwing passes at opponents feet more than he's been throwing passes to teammates, so far this season.

[noles1983]

this game was just full blown aids

[ElNono]

He's been throwing passes at opponents feet more than he's been throwing passes to teammates, so far this season.

He's been bad on that specifically, passing around, in the last 2 games. Dedmon doesn't have the hands to catch some of those passes, and some of them were plain bad.

His defense has been generally good tough (IIRC, he had 2 steals against Miami, a couple charges today).

Even on a bad night, the Spurs can't have him be the 3rd top scorer, tbh... need more consistent production from Pau, Patty, Simms...

[Ice009]

Well, Simmons doesn't look like he's improved his shooting much. That first game may have been an aberration. He doesn't look close on some of his shots and doesn't seem to be shooting it with any kind of confidence. I had Anderson passing up open threes too. These guys are driving me insane.

This team is looking real soft. I don't like that kind of play. It disgusts me. Soft, soft play. Spurs deserved to lose this one.

[SAGirl]

:pop:

[FkLA]

Amused seriously needs to fuck off. It's not cute or funny for him to keep starting threads.

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054), please pink him ASAP.

[SAGirl]

Amusedslayer (?) with his bad omen too

[ElNono]

Amused seriously needs to fuck off. It's not cute or funny for him to keep starting threads.

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054), please pink him ASAP.

im not a mod, tbh.... ask Deuce

[Trainwreck2100]

Lady Gaga

[FkLA]

Deuce, do us all a favor and pink his ass.

[Splits]

Amused for president.

We needed this loss, can't let 4 straight wins get into our heads.

[SAGirl]

Diaw, tbh
:lol:bobo

[TheGreatYacht]

Lady Gaga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7_ORsn3-fg&feature=share

[100%duncan]

im not a mod, tbh.... ask Deuce

But ur the new owner huh

[ElNono]

But ur the new owner huh

da younghusband said it was an original member of ST, tbh... I'm not one of em...

[313]

POP
weak rotations, poor calling plays

PARKER
other teams are planning to attack him in every possession and Pop still gets him on the court.
Hill defending by Parker=goes supernova...Joe being MIA all game, then defending by Parker=makes shots...

SIMMS
can't hit an ocean 1-7How many PGs in the league can guard Joe Johnson :lol

[100%duncan]

How many PGs in the league can guard Joe Johnson :lol

CoJo would've

[SilverSpur]

The Utah Jazz

[SPURt]

When Bertans doesn't play bad things happen

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Bullshit, no one got injured fuck all the dumb asses thinking that I'm the reason for the loss. Been posting here since some of you were sucking your mother's dick.

I will continue to start game threads whenever, what happens on the court has nothing to do with my posting.


Imagine being a grown man and fearing a Canadian for some bad vibes towards the Spurs. Pathetic :lol

[Splits]

Bullshit, no one got injured fuck all the dumb asses thinking that I'm the reason for the loss. Been posting here since some of you were sucking your mother's dick.

I will continue to start game threads whenever, what happens on the court has nothing to do with my posting.


Imagine being a grown man and fearing a Canadian for some bad vibes towards the Spurs. Pathetic :lol

:tu

[Ditty]

Our terrible in game music, and terrible mixes from the DJ during timeouts? :lol

[FkLA]

Bullshit, no one got injured fuck all the dumb asses thinking that I'm the reason for the loss. Been posting here since some of you were sucking your mother's dick.

I will continue to start game threads whenever, what happens on the court has nothing to do with my posting.


Imagine being a grown man and fearing a Canadian for some bad vibes towards the Spurs. Pathetic :lol

Noone wants you to start threads, faggot. Whether you do or don't send bad vibes is irrelevant. At the very least you starting threads is annoying.

Give the people what they want instead of trying to be cute.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Noone wants you to start threads, faggot. Whether you do or don't send bad vibes is irrelevant. At the very least you starting threads is annoying.

Give the people what they want instead of trying to be cute.


Oh fuck off, been starting threads for nearly 14 years on this forum which included 4 championship runs. Will start as many as I want.

[313]

Bullshit, no one got injured fuck all the dumb asses thinking that I'm the reason for the loss. Been posting here since some of you were sucking your mother's dick.

I will continue to start game threads whenever, what happens on the court has nothing to do with my posting.


Imagine being a grown man and fearing a Canadian for some bad vibes towards the Spurs. Pathetic :lol You are a cancer to the Spurs organizations. Every time you start a game thread, you put our players, and team as a whole at risk.

Do us all a favour and stop making game threads.

Fuck Canada.

[RD2191]

Noone wants you to start threads, faggot. Whether you do or don't send bad vibes is irrelevant. At the very least you starting threads is annoying.

Give the people what they want instead of trying to be cute.

[FkLA]

Oh fuck off, been starting threads for nearly 14 years on this forum which included 4 championship runs. Will start as many as I want.

I don't care if you've been starting them for 50 years. The masses don't want you to start them anymore. Quit being a little emotional bitch and listen to them.

[Blake]

All of the guards sucked badly tonight. George Hill was making them look mediocre. George Hill.

[FkLA]

You are a cancer to the Spurs organizations. Every time you start a game thread, you put our players, and team as a whole at risk.

Do us all a favour and stop making game threads.

Fuck Canada.

:claw

[apalisoc_9]

33 minutes for a top 75 PG is just silly.

Pop doing his best to please Tony...

[Spur|n|Austin]

Pink Amused

[jbspurs]

Pop for allowing Jazz to abuse Parker and not letting Mills finish the game.

[TimDunkem]

Actually they don't. And that dalaman guy gets shit on all the time. :lol
lol Exactly. How can a team have your number if they rarely beat you? What a stupid comment.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Big players make big shots in big games is my mantra. Our alpha let us down.

[TimDunkem]

Big players make big shots in big games is my mantra. Our alpha let us down.
What? He's the only one who showed up in the fourth. lol

[SAGirl]

Starting Simmons TBH....:lol

[SpursBig3s]

Anderson, Porker amd Mills killed the spurs on defense tonight. Really a night we could have used DG.

:bobo agreed. DG out makes our D noticeably worse

[TimDunkem]

Kyle can't close out on anybody. There were several noticeable instances where he was in a situation where he was no more than a few feet away from the three point shooter and, while most players would at least attempt to close out on the attempt, he put in a half-assed to no effort close-out because he's too fucking slow and he knows it.

[alpha_HaZE]

Utah played well tonight and they deserved the W. By the way, George Hill had an inspired performance! Especially down the stretch. Parker was a defensive liability once again.

[Spurtacular]

Just an all around lackluster performace by everyone besides Kawhi, tbh.

[SnakeBoy]

Spurs schedule is to blame for this loss tbh

They gassed

[Obstructed_View]

Not on Amused, since nobody got hurt. You usually don't win when a team shoots 30 three pointers and hits half of them, tbh.

[hooperflash]

Dejuan Blair

[Horse]

I'm all for the blame game but they came out red hot and didn't cool off much. Sun even shines on a dogs ass some days.

[Slippy]

Spurs didnt get enough stops towards the end to grind out a win . Jazz went after Tony.

DG part of the solution when he gets back

[benefactor]

More often than not, the Spurs lose when I don't get a chance to watch...so I think I will need to blame gambit's woman. I spent most of the evening relieving testicular pressure into various points of entry of her body. Not my finest hour, but we all go through dry spells and at some point one has to do what is necessary to break the drought.

[TrainOfThought5]

You are a cancer to the Spurs organizations. Every time you start a game thread, you put our players, and team as a whole at risk.

Do us all a favour and stop making game threads.

Fuck Canada.

:rollin

[Silver&Black]

More often than not, the Spurs lose when I don't get a chance to watch...so I think I will need to blame gambit's woman. I spent most of the evening relieving testicular pressure into various points of entry of her body. Not my finest hour, but we all go through dry spells and at some point one has to do what is necessary to break the drought.

:tu Congrats on the slumpbuster.

[pgardn]

More often than not, the Spurs lose when I don't get a chance to watch...so I think I will need to blame gambit's woman. I spent most of the evening relieving testicular pressure into various points of entry of her body. Not my finest hour, but we all go through dry spells and at some point one has to do what is necessary to break the drought.

Oh Christ you touched that...

Taking one for the team.

[Brian Windhorst]

Pop tbh

The lineup up Parker, Ginibili, Simmons, Anderson, Lee that played for like 5 min in the fourth sealed the deal.

Jazz also just shot well.

[SASdynasty!]

I blame Parker for shooting 60% from the field and having double the assists of anyone else on the team.

[sasaint]

Spurs schedule is to blame for this loss tbh

They gassed

Unclear if you are being facetious. 4 games in - and were gassed? Actually Kawhi has played the most minutes, and he better not be gassed at his age. I didn't think they were gassed - just complacent. That is just as disturbing to me. Oh, and as well as Pop coached in the opener against the Dubs, he was the worst last night. It would have been better to let Becky or Ime coach last. They aren't into sabotaging the Team.

[SASdynasty!]

Kinda game over when Porker just hands them the ball in the fourth to kill the run. :lmao
Oh you mean when Manu wasn't paying attention to the ball coming to him? And make sure you don't mention Kawhi dribbling off his foot out of bounds the next play.

[Canyonero]

I want to open a game thread if ElNono gives me his blessing.

[benefactor]

Oh Christ you touched that...

Taking one for the team.
At times one's pride has to be swallowed when an offer to swallow is on the table.

[rjv]

schedule. red hot shooting of jazz.

[Fireball]

Pop wanted this loss for sure to keep the team on edge ... whole team got outplayed in the first and fourth quarter - Utah played typical Spurs basketball while Spurs did not.
Simmons for Anderson in the SL was a bad idea and I bet Mills for TP would have similar effects on our bench production. We need a healthy and good DG to be a top team.

[Kikoluna]

No doubt, Kyle worthless Anderson. It was 4 vs 5

[SPURt]

The Jazz out rebounded, out assisted, had less turnovers, and shot better percentages. The Jazz were the better team last night. The Jazz are to blame, I give them credit for the complete game.

[gambit1990]

More often than not, the Spurs lose when I don't get a chance to watch...so I think I will need to blame gambit's woman. I spent most of the evening relieving testicular pressure into various points of entry of her body. Not my finest hour, but we all go through dry spells and at some point one has to do what is necessary to break the drought.

Westbrook will turn 30 at the beginning of that season. No thanks.
doesn't want westbrook :lol

stupid fuck.

[SASdynasty!]

doesn't want westbrook :lol

stupid fuck.
Who would want a guy who couldn't lead his team to the playoffs when Durant got hurt? Who wants a career chucker who can't shoot 45% from the field and throws up over-the-backboard shots at the end of playoff series? Who wants a guy who runs MVPs out of town and can't win a single title no matter how stacked his team is?

I'll take the guy who outplayed Lebron in the Finals over the guy that got raped by him.

[RD2191]

doesn't want westbrook :lol

stupid fuck.

Sasdynasty has mental problems TBH. He's delusional tbh.

[SASdynasty!]

Sasdynasty has mental problems TBH. He's delusional tbh.
Any of the specific points I listed you want to refute?

[Blake]

doesn't want westbrook :lol

stupid fuck.

Westbrook is an awkward dunk landing away from being Derrick Rose.

I'd love to have him but what the Spurs would have to give up to get him. ...just not worth it, imo

[ElNono]

I want to open a game thread if ElNono gives me his blessing.

You don't need anybody's blessing, tbh... go right ahead.

[Clipper Nation]

Who would want a guy who couldn't lead his team to the playoffs when Durant got hurt? Who wants a career chucker who can't shoot 45% from the field and throws up over-the-backboard shots at the end of playoff series? Who wants a guy who runs MVPs out of town and can't win a single title no matter how stacked his team is?
Yeah, he's no Boobie Gibson. That's for sure.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Not on Amused, since nobody got hurt. You usually don't win when a team shoots 30 three pointers and hits half of them, tbh.

:toast

[benefactor]

Westbrook is an awkward dunk landing away from being Derrick Rose.

I'd love to have him but what the Spurs would have to give up to get him. ...just not worth it, imo
Actually, he doesn't want to trade for him. He wants to max him out the same season he turns 30 years old. Great idea, huh?

[dabom]

You don't need anybody's blessing, tbh... go right ahead.

Somehow still getting ElNono's blessing...

[HarlemHeat37]

Nobody to blame, tbh..just a fluky, meaningless early-November game..

FYI, last season, teams that made >15s on 48+% shooting went 57-9..tough to win when a team is raining 3s..

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Nobody to blame, tbh..just a fluky, meaningless early-November game..

FYI, last season, teams that made >15s on 48+% shooting went 57-9..tough to win when a team is raining 3s..

Bu couldn't you say a LOT of those 3's are because Utah was left wide open since the Spurs were going under the screens a lot? Very few of Utah's 3's did they have a hand in their face.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bu couldn't you say a LOT of those 3's are because Utah was left wide open since the Spurs were going under the screens a lot? Very few of Utah's 3's did they have a hand in their face.

Yes, a lot of it was poor defense, but that's generally what you see around the league during the first few weeks..

Still, even on poor defense, you don't expect a team to get that hot on the road..

[gambit1990]

late in the 4th parker turned the ball over when we were down 7.

jazz made a 3.

potential 6 point swing, especially with kawhi shooting 5 of 7 from beyond the arc.

[gambit1990]

Actually, he doesn't want to trade for him. He wants to max him out the same season he turns 30 years old. Great idea, huh?
i never said i wouldn't trade for him.

bitchfactor making shit up :lol

[benefactor]

i never said i wouldn't trade for him.

bitchfactor making shit up :lol
Stop moving the goalposts. You know what I'm talking about. I said that in reference to the thread where I said I didn't want him. That thread was about signing him a few years from now...when he turns 30. You laughed when I said that was a bad idea and it's the reason you laughed again about me not wanting him in this thread. Do you think it's a good idea to sign an athletically reliant 30 yr old PG to a long term max deal?

[GSH]

The lineup up Parker, Ginibili, Simmons, Anderson, Lee that played for like 5 min in the fourth sealed the deal.


That would be a nightmare lineup, but it didn't happen. I don't think it happened ever, but for sure not in the 4th. You can check the play-by-play, but it didn't happen.

The game got lost in the 3rd, when the Spurs had taken a 63-60 lead with 5:25 left. Pop subbed in Manu for Simmons, and Lee for Gasol. Whether some people here want to admit it or not, Aldridge was playing the 4 and Lee was the C. The score didn't get out of hand immediately, but that lineup killed the momentum the Spurs had gained.

Thirty seconds into the 4th, Pop subbed Lee in for Dedmon. Lineup: Mills, Simmons, Manu, Anderson, and Lee. And THAT is the lineup that let the Jazz take a big lead back. Note, again, that Lee is the C in that lineup.

I said in the preseason that Pop would wind up with Lee on the floor as the C, and it would be a disaster. I don't blame Lee, I blame Pop. I knew it would happen, and I expect it will happen again. And it will be a disaster every time. And it's why I keep saying that the team needs another legitimate big man, even if it means Forbes has to go.

[DrSteffo]

Pop and circumstance

[SASdynasty!]

Yeah, he's no Boobie Gibson. That's for sure.
Hahaha oh yah, Westbrook had Mario Chalmers on him!

[SASdynasty!]

late in the 4th parker turned the ball over when we were down 7.

jazz made a 3.

potential 6 point swing, especially with kawhi shooting 5 of 7 from beyond the arc.
At least Parker was passing it and Manu didn't look up. Kawhi just dribbled it off his foot.

[sasaint]

That would be a nightmare lineup, but it didn't happen. I don't think it happened ever, but for sure not in the 4th. You can check the play-by-play, but it didn't happen.

The game got lost in the 3rd, when the Spurs had taken a 63-60 lead with 5:25 left. Pop subbed in Manu for Simmons, and Lee for Gasol. Whether some people here want to admit it or not, Aldridge was playing the 4 and Lee was the C. The score didn't get out of hand immediately, but that lineup killed the momentum the Spurs had gained.

Thirty seconds into the 4th, Pop subbed Lee in for Dedmon. Lineup: Mills, Simmons, Manu, Anderson, and Lee. And THAT is the lineup that let the Jazz take a big lead back. Note, again, that Lee is the C in that lineup.

I said in the preseason that Pop would wind up with Lee on the floor as the C, and it would be a disaster. I don't blame Lee, I blame Pop. I knew it would happen, and I expect it will happen again. And it will be a disaster every time. And it's why I keep saying that the team needs another legitimate big man, even if it means Forbes has to go.

And that is why I had Deadman as my X-factor this season. 3 legit bigs (LMA, Pau and Deadman) plus Lee would work. But Deadman would have to have a break-out season. And Pop would need to allocate almost all of the minutes at the 5 to those three. But Pop likes short immobile bigs...

[Raven]

david lee's cancerous ways?

[GSH]

david lee's cancerous ways?


Lee is a good guy, IMO, and probably a good teammate. He's smart, and he works hard. He's just too damned short to play the C.

[tonight...you]

Lee is a good guy, IMO, and probably a good teammate. He's smart, and he works hard. He's just too damned short to play the C.

Yeah, he' no cancer, per se. A Cancer is someone that's tearing up the locker room and morale of the team. Someone who's undermining the team, as a whole.
He's just a try-hard player with real limitations and also some talent. Not a cancer. That's lazy hyperbole, tbh.

[Raven]

Yeah, he' no cancer, per se. A Cancer is someone that's tearing up the locker room and morale of the team. Someone who's undermining the team, as a whole.
He's just a try-hard player with real limitations and also some talent. Not a cancer. That's lazy hyperbole, tbh.

nah, a cancer is someone who looks really good but his presence decreases the sum of all parts. In other words, someone that looks good enough that you tend to get back to, but that steadily makes bad things happen, such as, say, scrubs going off early and then not stopping.

[tonight...you]

nah, a cancer is someone who looks really good but his presence decreases the sum of all parts. In other words, someone that looks good enough that you tend to get back to, but that steadily makes bad things happen, such as, say, scrubs going off early and then not stopping.
Huh... interesting. I've never heard that one being identified with that term, but I'll put it in the spank bank, baby. Fo' Sho'.

[SAGirl]

Lee is a good guy, IMO, and probably a good teammate. He's smart, and he works hard. He's just too damned short to play the C.
POP will keep going to him. I don't even know why Dedmon got benched. I think he fouled somebody. If that's what indeed what got him benched, then it was a learning opportunity. He must not have been executing what Pop wanted.

Frankly despite the cliffjumpers, I am still hoping guys turn it around. There was a lot that went wrong in that game. I have had my reservations with Lee from b4 as you know, and they showed up in that game and will again as you state. You are right in that he competes but he had a very bad game on defense. Lyles and all sort of shoiters killed him in the perimeter, and he is not a rim protector...

Very depressed and tired from bashing in and crushing guys at this point TBH.. I am going to have to start a Novena so that guys turn it around... I'd like to see others play too. It was too bad Bertans was injured...

[SAGirl]

nah, a cancer is someone who looks really good but his presence decreases the sum of all parts. In other words, someone that looks good enough that you tend to get back to, but that steadily makes bad things happen, such as, say, scrubs going off early and then not stopping.
:tu Good description... there's more than one type of cancer after all.

[tonight...you]

POP will keep going to him. I don't even know why Dedmon got benched. I think he fouled somebody. If that's what indeed what got him benched, then it was a learning opportunity. He must not have been executing what Pop wanted.

Frankly despite the cliffjumpers, I am still hoping guys turn it around. There was a lot that went wrong in that game. I have had my reservations with Lee from b4 as you know, and they showed up in that game and will again as you state. You are right in that he competes but he had a very bad game on defense. Lyles and all sort of shoiters killed him in the perimeter, and he is not a rim protector...

Very depressed and tired from bashing in and crushing guys at this point TBH.. I am going to have to start a Novena so that guys turn it around... I'd like to see others play too. It was too bad Bertans was injured...
My girl... My Haitian vodou, your Santeria, we get things done with this team, yet.

Time to bathe myself in 180 proof liquor and milk in an act of mischief...

[SAGirl]

My girl... My Haitian vodou, your Santeria, we get things done with this team, yet.

Time to bathe myself in 180 proof liquor and milk in an act of mischief...
That's the spirit!!!!!
:flag:

[GSH]

My girl... My Haitian vodou, your Santeria, we get things done with this team, yet.

Time to bathe myself in 180 proof liquor and milk in an act of mischief...


There are time that I just don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I can't say I disagree with you on basketball terms, because I don't even know if you're talking about basketball anymore.

I think it's a shame you missed out on the 60's. I think you like the Spurs. So... rock on?

[timtonymanu]

Of course Shelvin Mack is back to looking like the scrub that he is against Dallas. Scrub couldn't miss yesterday.

[tonight...you]

There are time that I just don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I can't say I disagree with you on basketball terms, because I don't even know if you're talking about basketball anymore.

I think it's a shame you missed out on the 60's. I think you like the Spurs. So... rock on?
I did go through some of dem 70's... Is that Freedom Rock? Hell yeah!
I'm just glad you appreciate something out of me, brother. You're one of my favs to read, amongst others here...
I'm just a free spirit, and much of what I say is a mixture of the literal, allegory and metaphorical. I'm just being me here and this is a good place to be me... imo, tbh.

And, FYI, a fan of our team since '87. I was 12 and alone... sob.

[GSH]

Of course Shelvin Mack is back to looking like the scrub that he is against Dallas. Scrub couldn't miss yesterday.


Utah is shooting 37.5% from the floor, 36% from the 3P line, and 54.5% from the FT line. Because Dallas' defense is that much superior to the Spurs'... or because Utah was just on fire last night?

There's only one right answer.

[tonight...you]

Utah is shooting 37.5% from the floor, 36% from the 3P line, and 54.5% from the FT line. Because Dallas' defense is that much superior to the Spurs'... or because Utah was just on fire last night?

There's only one right answer.
Even though Utah got a metric shit-ton of open looks, they did hit an extraordinary amount of them and also hit some contested shots at an astounding rate. They cooled off in the 2nd half, but the Spurs couldn't overcome their multitude of mistakes and poor play from the various components that were put together on the court.

I, personally, don't take an ounce of anything from this game except that I wouldn't start Simmons, unless upon severe emergency, and my frustration grows with Mr Anderson. There were a few sequences where that old boy was so lost on D, that he was drifting aimlessly and you could tell that even he knew it and was asking assignments, on the court, as he was floating in no man's land and, of course: open shots happened. Ugly, ugly stuff.

[SAGirl]

Utah is shooting 37.5% from the floor, 36% from the 3P line, and 54.5% from the FT line. Because Dallas' defense is that much superior to the Spurs'... or because Utah was just on fire last night?

There's only one right answer.

Regression to the mean... but they did get a lot of good looks. Most of their 30 3pt shots that they attempted were open to fairly wide open. Maybe the heavy collapse in the paint was unnecessary.

[GSH]

And, FYI, a fan of our team since '87. I was 12 and alone... sob.


1979, the Spurs got absolutely fucked by the refs, and lost the Eastern Conference Finals to the Washington Bullets. (Yes, the Spurs were in the Eastern Conference then.) Doug Moe was the coach, and he didn't give a rat fuck about what he was supposed to do, or supposed to say. He got so mouthy about the bad calls that the league handed him the biggest fine ever against a coach at the time - $3,000. The San Antonio fans took up a collection to pay his fine with 300,000 pennies. And I decided that I was a Spurs fan.

I think you would have liked Doug Moe, and paying a fine in pennies. So you're okay in my book. I still don't know what the fuck you're talking about sometimes. :lol

[tonight...you]

1979, the Spurs got absolutely fucked by the refs, and lost the Eastern Conference Finals to the Washington Bullets. (Yes, the Spurs were in the Eastern Conference then.) Doug Moe was the coach, and he didn't give a rat fuck about what he was supposed to do, or supposed to say. He got so mouthy about the bad calls that the league handed him the biggest fine ever against a coach at the time - $3,000. The San Antonio fans took up a collection to pay his fine with 300,000 pennies. And I decided that I was a Spurs fan.

I think you would have liked Doug Moe, and paying a fine in pennies. So you're okay in my book. I still don't know what the fuck you're talking about sometimes. :lol
:bobo my friend. Good story. My first Spurs memories were of Will Anderson lighting it up his rookie year and Terry Cummings with the weird armpits (I know his malady now) doing things, but losing. Then *BOOM* in came DRob and the Ninja and the, then, greatest comeback from in a season. I loved that team, except for Rod and his shit, for obvious reasons. Then came Rodman... And that shitty coach after Tark the Shark and Johnny Crack Hoe... Now here we are. What a journey, eh?

Hit that jive jack, put it in the pocket, til I get back. Going downtown to see the man and I ain't got time to shake your hand.

[GSH]

I, personally, don't take an ounce of anything from this game except that I wouldn't start Simmons, unless upon severe emergency, and my frustration grows with Mr Anderson.



Both Anderson and Simmons are currently suited to come off the bench. Having Danny out to start the season really skews everything. His D is going to change things, when he comes back. If he's hitting 3's like he was in last season's playoffs, it will help keep defenses from collapsing on Tony. But even if he's shooting .350 from 3P, the starting lineup is going to be a lot saltier. And Anderson/Simmons will look a lot better against second unit players. Hopefully Pop can get the guys settled into some more-regular rotations, and we don't have to have some of these discussions.

[tonight...you]

Both Anderson and Simmons are currently suited to come off the bench. Having Danny out to start the season really skews everything. His D is going to change things, when he comes back. If he's hitting 3's like he was in last season's playoffs, it will help keep defenses from collapsing on Tony. But even if he's shooting .350 from 3P, the starting lineup is going to be a lot saltier. And Anderson/Simmons will look a lot better against second unit players. Hopefully Pop can get the guys settled into some more-regular rotations, and we don't have to have some of these discussions.
Poignant.
Honest.
And True.

Zero argument from me. I await Danny's return with bated breath.

Then we'll have brand new, all industrial, with bleach alternative discussions to bear down upon.
I expect tons and tons of emoticons from dabom, my brother from many other a mother.

[sasaint]

Both Anderson and Simmons are currently suited to come off the bench. Having Danny out to start the season really skews everything. His D is going to change things, when he comes back. If he's hitting 3's like he was in last season's playoffs, it will help keep defenses from collapsing on Tony. But even if he's shooting .350 from 3P, the starting lineup is going to be a lot saltier. And Anderson/Simmons will look a lot better against second unit players. Hopefully Pop can get the guys settled into some more-regular rotations, and we don't have to have some of these discussions.

All good points. I still don't really know about the timetable for Danny's return, or I'd circle the date on my calendar. And that also means I don't have any idea how long it might take him to get into game shape. I just hope he returns quickly and returns to good Danny-form equally quickly.

[GSH]

All good points. I still don't really know about the timetable for Danny's return, or I'd circle the date on my calendar. And that also means I don't have any idea how long it might take him to get into game shape. I just hope he returns quickly and returns to good Danny-form equally quickly.


Until he comes back, we're going to be watching guys not as good as him in the SL. People can get as freaky as they want about it, but the bottom line is that Pop would field the best lineup if the players were all available.

But I suppose I'm second-guessing Pop, too, because I think the experiments with Lee as a small-ball C are doomed. I actually like Lee on the floor with a legit big man. But I'm pretty well convinced that he's not going to hold down the middle on his own. I understand why he wants to do it with the current roster. But that's why I think they would be better off with another big, even if it means losing Forbes.

I guess I should take my own advice and go apply for Pop's job. It looks easy enough from where I sit.

[sasaint]

Until he comes back, we're going to be watching guys not as good as him in the SL. People can get as freaky as they want about it, but the bottom line is that Pop would field the best lineup if the players were all available.

But I suppose I'm second-guessing Pop, too, because I think the experiments with Lee as a small-ball C are doomed. I actually like Lee on the floor with a legit big man. But I'm pretty well convinced that he's not going to hold down the middle on his own. I understand why he wants to do it with the current roster. But that's why I think they would be better off with another big, even if it means losing Forbes.

I guess I should take my own advice and go apply for Pop's job. It looks easy enough from where I sit.

Plenty easy until Ime tugs on my coat sleeve to stir me out of a mesmerized stupor, asking incredulously, "Don't you want to call a time-out after that run?!"

[SAGirl]

Actually I am watching some sections of the game again. Lee was horrific on defense. There were a lot of screens set on him and he's a big, he is going to get caught in every screen and not go over or under... The Spurs were zoning and it didn't work.. they were also were switching on every screen and that left plenty of mismatches. The heavy collapses in the paint were over a guard attacking a mismatch very often. The Spurs defense was terrible. LMA ended up in the perimeter plenty of times too.

There was a lot of experimentation in the game and it wasn't just lineups... the defense was a weird scheme, but coach Snyder attacked everything Pop threw out there.

The kind of game that guys will watch and learn from, hopefully Pop too.

[SAGirl]

Poignant.
Honest.
And True.

Zero argument from me. I await Danny's return with bated breath.

Then we'll have brand new, all industrial, with bleach alternative discussions to bear down upon.
I expect tons and tons of emoticons from dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543), my brother from many other a mother.

I suspect Danny will have no effect on Tony, but he will improve them defensively and that is a start. Tony will have to catch a rhythm on his own. I have that Novena going as you know. lol
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kd8mYttW4WA/hqdefault.jpg

[spurs10]

Well 5 games in 7 nights isn't a picnic.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody to blame, tbh..just a fluky, meaningless early-November game..

FYI, last season, teams that made >15s on 48+% shooting went 57-9..tough to win when a team is raining 3s..

Thank you. I had no idea how to look that up, but I knew it didn't happen often. 66 out of 1300 games is pretty rare.

[Fireball]

the game was as "meaningless" as the Warriors game to start the season ... there the Spurs shot like the Jazz did ... both things are not sustainable in a 7 game series I guess

[Horse]

the game was as "meaningless" as the Warriors game to start the season ... there the Spurs shot like the Jazz did ... both things are not sustainable in a 7 game series I guess

Completely disagree against GS we played well but not amazing. Every bum on the jazz couldn't miss tues night.

[Silver&Black]

Who we blaming this time?

Clippers hot shooting?
Fatigue?
MVPatty?
LMA?
Griffin?
Amuseddaysleeper?

[SASdynasty!]

Blame Parker, 0 pts, 0 ast

[ElNono]

Who we blaming this time?

Clippers hot shooting?
Fatigue?
MVPatty?
LMA?
Griffin?
Amuseddaysleeper?

piss poor effort on defense tbh... they set a new record for most points allowed in a half in the Popovich era... disgusting.

[spurtech09]

Can't win them all...this Spurs team is still learning......hey look on the bright side...Warriors lost to the Lakers......

[spurs10]

piss poor effort on defense tbh... they set a new record for most points allowed in a half in the Popovich era... disgusting. I didn't know it was the record, but I'm not surprised. "Disgusting" indeed.

[YGWHI]

LMA for looking so bad in his matchup with Blake, especially in the first half when Clips won the game. Kawhi and Patty so inefficient 1-7/3-13...

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[SASdynasty!]

piss poor effort on defense tbh... they set a new record for most points allowed in a half in the Popovich era... disgusting.
WTF...Parker sits out and we start breaking Popovich era records? Lol.

[SAGirl]

For once I see ElNono eye to eye... I was complaining about the bad defense in the game thread and it started from there. TD is missed.

[Hoops Czar]

LMA for looking so bad in his matchup with Blake, especially in the first half when Clips won the game. Kawhi and Patty so inefficient 1-7/3-13...

795077754647670789

Anybody's wet dream of trading LMA for BG is out the window with tonight's performance.

[DMC]

Every time some team goes off on SA, and they all do at times, it's the end of the world and Spurs are done.

Truth is Spurs are a 2nd round team still. Getting them to the WCF will require injury somewhere and health somewhere else. As long as Parker is starting at PG and Manu is still the best bench player, Spurs aren't going anywhere. Kawhi is great, no doubt, but he's fighting both his own tortoise shell mentality and his team's wobbly, newly born legs. You cannot expect the team to have a beautiful game style so early in their remodel.

[Mikeanaro]

piss poor effort on defense tbh... they set a new record for most points allowed in a half in the Popovich era... disgusting.
Its disgusting, but we are shifting eras and Clips core (at least 7 players) have been playing more than two seasons together but still cant get to the WCF... no biggie.

[ElNono]

WTF...Parker sits out and we start breaking Popovich era records? Lol.

Look, I hope Tony heals up, and comes back and plays well, but we all know he ain't changing a thing about this team's defense...

[venitian navigator]

first of all looks that we have no point guard that can play defense...it all starts from there imho. i'm a little disappointed with Laprovittola in that sense...too easy to pass through him with a first step...(same thing with Mills, also if he gives effeort...and, as we all know, the same problem is with Parker). As pointed out at the beginning of the season, we need a point guard that can play defense...
I liked, instead, some things i've seen from Kyle...on offense it's clear his advantage just 'cause of his lenght when he plays the point. That's a walking miss match waiting to heppen whenever he plays point guard on offense. I frankly think that, once Green is back, it could be an idea to give a chance at a KA-Green-Kiwi back court...

[dabom]

first of all looks that we have no point guard that can play defense...it all starts from there imho. i'm a little disappointed with Laprovittola in that sense...too easy to pass through him with a first step...(same thing with Mills, also if he gives effeort...and, as we all know, the same problem is with Parker). As pointed out at the beginning of the season, we need a point guard that can play defense...
I liked, instead, some things i've seen from Kyle...on offense it's clear his advantage just 'cause of his lenght when he plays the point. That's a walking miss match waiting to heppen whenever he plays point guard on offense. I frankly think that, once Green is back, it could be an idea to give a chance at a KA-Green-Kiwi back court...

:lmao

[hsxvvd]

20+ years as a Spurs fan and I dont think I've seen a more useless player than Kyle Anderson. He can't defend. He can't shoot, and constantly dribbles into traffic and destroys the offense. Bonner could at least shoot.

Ok... maybe Keith Bogans. Maybe.

[venitian navigator]

you can laugh as much as you want, but Kyle in college was a point guard...and considering that his main disadvantage playing the point is that he is unable to guard a faster point guard, we should at least consider that none of the other players in this roster looks able to guard the good point guards. Non Parker, no Mills, no Lapro, no Murray...not enough lateral quickness from any of them. So if we have, in any case, to rely on a shooting guard or a forward (like Danny or Leonard) to defend the opposite point guard, maybe we should try something different...Kile playing the point at 6.9 gives him advantage over any other point guard not named Bob Simmons.

[K...]

There are no "defensive pg specialists" in the league. I mean you can name some guys who are ok, but they aren't the answer. Danny Green is the answer. With patty, you just have to hope he gets as much as he gives.


But lol at the kids here who say "we need cp3" as if this was the video game forum.


kyle is big speed cone. But he's got long arms so he can at least kind of funnel guys. If mills gets abused by our playoffs teams then kyle needs a shot as starting pg. Although honestly i know that a desperate move given kyles passive play.

[Splits]

I'm going with Bertans. God this guy sucks.

[wildbill2u]

I can't think of anything more destructive than an ongoing thread about who was individually responsible for a loss. This is a team game. What any team has is some individuals who are stars and other players who are in a supportive role. It is correct to say that the stars have better skill sets (Duh!) and the rest have lesser skills (Duh!). We all believe that this team has the player composite to win over 50 games, make the playoffs, and hopefully advance far into the championship competition.

But that just assumes that this team with a lot of new players, many untested, is going to be among the league elites because of their individual skill sets. It remains to be seen that the new revamped Spurs can make it work with all the new players, aging players, and some really good players with great skill sets. And we know they all want to win and will try to bring their best every night.

But on any given night, any one or two individuals may not play up to our expectations or their average stats, or the team as a whole may not play up to their skill levels in a blowout, but that is going to happen about 30 times per year. I don't see any point in trying to assess "blame" for a loss thirty times per year. ?

[r0drig0lac]

There are no "defensive pg specialists" in the league. I mean you can name some guys who are ok, but they aren't the answer. Danny Green is the answer. With patty, you just have to hope he gets as much as he gives.


But lol at the kids here who say "we need cp3" as if this was the video game forum.


kyle is big speed cone. But he's got long arms so he can at least kind of funnel guys. If mills gets abused by our playoffs teams then kyle needs a shot as starting pg. Although honestly i know that a desperate move given kyles passive play.

Pop might have tried Kyle / Kawhi / Bertans / Dedmon / Gasol when the game was already lost, just to avoid the disadvantage in pick and roll (Mills in Blake? Wtf), Mills was not well, and our pg is Kawhi anyway

[Silver&Black]

I can't think of anything more destructive than an ongoing thread about who was individually responsible for a loss.You're missing the entire point of the thread. It's not about blaming an individual player....it's about blaming an individual poster.

[Brazil]

20+ years as a Spurs fan and I dont think I've seen a more useless player than Kyle Anderson. He can't defend. He can't shoot, and constantly dribbles into traffic and destroys the offense. Bonner could at least shoot.

Ok... maybe Keith Bogans. Maybe.

:lol tbh... ya bogans is pretty accurate comparaison