Hi, I Cost Hillary the Whitehouse [Archive]

TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 05:48 PM

Hi Donna!

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DMC

11-09-2016, 05:54 PM

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Whassup girl! How cool is det name? LynchClinton.. sounds like prophecy.

Oh hey... darlin'. Bring me that box of cigars I want to show you how I can make one disappear.

TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:00 PM

Just checking in guys!
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TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:03 PM

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Here for the gangbang!

TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:04 PM

Woop woop!

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TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:05 PM

Sorry bout my husband!

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DMC

11-09-2016, 06:07 PM

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Right here niggas!

Spurminator

11-09-2016, 06:10 PM

Can you believe so many people live outside of Manhattan? Who are these people?

http://i.imgur.com/vWFXksW.jpg

TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:13 PM

Tried my best!

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TheSanityAnnex

11-09-2016, 06:14 PM

From Russia with love!

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Pelicans78

11-09-2016, 06:15 PM

Splits

11-09-2016, 06:27 PM

Yo quiero taco bell

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rmt

11-09-2016, 06:37 PM

That'd be Hillary herself.

DMC

12-04-2016, 01:32 PM

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Wassup yall.. hey Donna, hit me up!

Fuck voting yo

Nbadan

12-05-2016, 12:49 AM

Nbadan

12-05-2016, 12:52 AM

But she didn't cost Hillary the WH...

There is really only one person who cost HItlary the WH

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Trainwreck2100

12-05-2016, 01:28 AM

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/4/22/enhanced/webdr13/longform-20944-1433471805-2.jpg

Hey guys lets run a campaign on stupid sjw crap.

spurraider21

12-05-2016, 01:31 AM

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CosmicCowboy

12-05-2016, 08:52 AM

Can you believe so many people live outside of Manhattan? Who are these people?

http://i.imgur.com/vWFXksW.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

hater

12-05-2016, 08:57 AM

Http://shillahitler.jpg

Ya nigas act like she wouldnt have lost if teamed up with Lebron and MJ

Bitch woulda lost regardless she was 99% responsible on her failure

Sportcamper

12-05-2016, 10:37 AM

Jorge Ramos…Donald Trump can’t deport illegal alien criminals…We will make him pay for saying that! :lol

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DMC

12-05-2016, 10:30 PM

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pgardn

12-05-2016, 10:48 PM

Can you believe so many people live outside of Manhattan? Who are these people?

http://i.imgur.com/vWFXksW.jpg

This is good stuff.

Clipper Nation

12-06-2016, 12:47 AM

http://i.imgur.com/FzjrZ9O.jpg

He just straight up ganked that shit from her, tbh.

Biernutz

12-06-2016, 03:22 AM

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Letting the men in Libya die and could care less about it........

DMC

12-06-2016, 08:11 PM

spurraider21

12-06-2016, 08:30 PM

Funny how the libs lament that Carson isn't qualified to be the Sec of HUD but somehow Clinton was qualified to be the Sec of State because she was Bill's wife.

Pretty confident in saying I'd bet Carson won't get anyone killed.she had been a senator for 8 years and had served on the armed services committee. it would be pretty impressive to have someone killed under the authority of the HUD

CosmicCowboy

12-06-2016, 08:37 PM

Ben Carson > Julian Castro

Th'Pusher

12-06-2016, 09:06 PM

Ben Carson > Julian Castro

By what metric?

spurraider21

12-06-2016, 09:41 PM

By what metric?political party, obviously

DMC

12-06-2016, 10:30 PM

she had been a senator for 8 years and had served on the armed services committee. it would be pretty impressive to have someone killed under the authority of the HUD

How does being a senator qualify her for Sec of State?

How does being on the armed services committee relate to foreign affairs?

Aren't you just saying she held an elected position and served on an unrelated committee?

spurraider21

12-06-2016, 11:17 PM

How does being a senator qualify her for Sec of State?

How does being on the armed services committee relate to foreign affairs?

Aren't you just saying she held an elected position and served on an unrelated committee?having general (which most read people have) and practical (acquired through experience or exposure) knowledge of how the federal government operates, about interactions between executive agencies and congress, etc. the state department does have interaction with the armed services committee and there is overlap between their function. when it comes to being the head of a department or of an entire branch of government, there is no direct "experience" for that. for instance, you can only have true presidential experience if you've been a president. but if you've been around the office and have had interactions with it, you have a much stronger understanding of how it operates and how to effectively administrate from that post

monosylab1k

12-07-2016, 01:26 PM

By what metric?

Inability to keep track of luggage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVL9DSG_M9Y

CosmicCowboy

12-07-2016, 04:27 PM

By what metric?

Intelligence and lack of political ambition. What made Castro qualified? And don't say being Mayor...we have a City Manager that actually runs things...

DMC

12-07-2016, 04:54 PM

having general (which most read people have) and practical (acquired through experience or exposure) knowledge of how the federal government operates, about interactions between executive agencies and congress, etc. the state department does have interaction with the armed services committee and there is overlap between their function. when it comes to being the head of a department or of an entire branch of government, there is no direct "experience" for that. for instance, you can only have true presidential experience if you've been a president. but if you've been around the office and have had interactions with it, you have a much stronger understanding of how it operates and how to effectively administrate from that post

Past Secs of State have at least some foreign affairs experience. What did Hillary have, except Bill's foreign affairs?

Hillary has the weakest resume of any of the Secretaries of State as far back as the 60's I believe. Hell, she didn't even know what a classified document looked like.

DMC

12-07-2016, 04:55 PM

It's funny to watch people try to tear down an elite neurosurgeon. "Oh he had mismatch socks one day!

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 05:14 PM

It's funny to watch people try to tear down an elite neurosurgeon. "Oh he had mismatch socks one day!would you hire a neurosurgeon if you were having computer problems and needed technical support?

nobody here that i know if is tearing down an elite neurosorgeon's medical resume as a neurosurgeon. that doesnt mean he's ready to be a contractor or a chef

CosmicCowboy

12-07-2016, 05:17 PM

would you hire a neurosurgeon if you were having computer problems and needed technical support?

nobody here that i know if is tearing down an elite neurosorgeon's medical resume as a neurosurgeon. that doesnt mean he's ready to be a contractor or a chef

Again...he's replacing Julian Castro...what special qualities did he have?...

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 05:19 PM

DMC

12-07-2016, 05:33 PM

would you hire a neurosurgeon if you were having computer problems and needed technical support?

If I needed someone to be a face for the technical support group to the media and to use rational, logical thought process to make decisions, sure. I'm pretty sure Carson won't be swinging hammers or closing on land deals in Chicago.

nobody here that i know if is tearing down an elite neurosorgeon's medical resume as a neurosurgeon. that doesnt mean he's ready to be a contractor or a chef
Leader is leader. A manager of a produce department can manage a general merchandise department better than a clerk in general merchandise, because he's a manager.

What experience does he need to be able to lead besides leadership?

What's funny is that he could win the presidency and no one would question is qualifications to lead the armed forces.

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 05:38 PM

If I needed someone to be a face for the technical support group to the media and to use rational, logical thought process to make decisions, sure. I'm pretty sure Carson won't be swinging hammers or closing on land deals in Chicago.

Leader is leader. A manager of a produce department can manage a general merchandise department better than a clerk in general merchandise, because he's a manager.

What experience does he need to be able to lead besides leadership?

What's funny is that he could win the presidency and no one would question is qualifications to lead the armed forces.lol "no one would question"

if you have somebody running a hospital, i want more than somebody not only with managerial capacity, but also one who is informed enough in the medical field to make accurate and sensical decisions. i wouldn't hire a former manager of walmart to be the manager of a hospital. this is why health administration is its own degree, for instance. yes, managerial and leadership qualities are important, but its also a pretty good idea to have somebody in charge who is informed in that field. this is why nobody questioned carson's ability to be the director of neurosurgery of his hospital despite not having leadership experience to that point

being a genius in one field doesnt automatically make you right for any field requiring mental capacity. carson is a gifted neurosurgeon who also thinks evolution is a farce and that the earth was created 6,000 years ago. would i want him running education and making decisions as far as what is taught in science classes? fuck no.

DMC

12-07-2016, 05:41 PM

lol "no one would question"

Bill Clinton, zero military experience. 2 full terms as commander in chief.

Barrack Obama, zero military experience. 2 full terms as commander in chief

So they are qualified to lead the largest military force in the world because they were senators and governors, but HUD is a much more difficult role for a brain surgeon.

But your regression to the fringe is duly noted.

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 05:44 PM

Bill Clinton, zero military experience. 2 full terms as commander in chief.

Barrack Obama, zero military experience. 2 full terms as commander in chief

So they are qualified to lead the largest military force in the world because they were senators and governors, but HUD is a much more difficult role for a brain surgeon.

But your regression to the fringe is duly noted.
i dont know what specific battle strategies were devised by the presidents. they dont micromanage. they make policy decisions, and the generals and other high ranking military officials tend to pursue them.

CosmicCowboy

12-07-2016, 05:49 PM

lol "no one would question"

if you have somebody running a hospital, i want more than somebody not only with managerial capacity, but also one who is informed enough in the medical field to make accurate and sensical decisions. i wouldn't hire a former manager of walmart to be the manager of a hospital. this is why health administration is its own degree, for instance. yes, managerial and leadership qualities are important, but its also a pretty good idea to have somebody in charge who is informed in that field. this is why nobody questioned carson's ability to be the director of neurosurgery of his hospital despite not having leadership experience to that point

being a genius in one field doesnt automatically make you right for any field requiring mental capacity. carson is a gifted neurosurgeon who also thinks evolution is a farce and that the earth was created 6,000 years ago. would i want him running education and making decisions as far as what is taught in science classes? fuck no.

I noticed you completely ducked the question about the lack of experience of the CURRENT head of HUD just because he is a Democrat politician.

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 05:54 PM

I noticed you completely ducked the question about the lack of experience of the CURRENT head of HUD just because he is a Democrat politician.i've never touted or celebrated castro's amazing qualifications. he had been the mayor of a major city and did oversee community investment and housing projects. it's certainly a lot more than carson has ever done

Clipper Nation

12-07-2016, 06:01 PM

Carson is like Flacco in the playoffs. Even with the whole world hating on him and doubting him, he's going to step up and get shit done on the big stage.

CosmicCowboy

12-07-2016, 06:03 PM

i've never touted or celebrated castro's amazing qualifications. he had been the mayor of a major city and did oversee community investment and housing projects. it's certainly a lot more than carson has ever done

Being Mayor in San Antonio is a fluff job. The Mayor doesn't run the City.

DMC

12-07-2016, 06:21 PM

i dont know what specific battle strategies were devised by the presidents. they dont micromanage. they make policy decisions, and the generals and other high ranking military officials tend to pursue them.

You think the HUD secretary doesn't have people who actually run the show? Do you think Hillary was fighting off hajis over in Benghazi?

DMC

12-07-2016, 06:22 PM

Carson is like Flacco in the playoffs. Even with the whole world hating on him and doubting him, he's going to step up and get shit done on the big stage.

Or Donald in the 2016 election.

pgardn

12-07-2016, 06:50 PM

It's funny to watch people try to tear down an elite neurosurgeon. "Oh he had mismatch socks one day!

Or he tried to stab his mother. No it was a friend. His mother spilled it I think.

Was that Ted or Donald who grabbed onto that and the belt buckle? Can't remember.

monosylab1k

12-07-2016, 07:38 PM

Carson is like Flacco in the playoffs. Even with the whole world hating on him and doubting him, he's going to step up and get shit done on the big stage.

Maybe he'll build giant pyramids to store grain in tbh.

DMC

12-07-2016, 07:42 PM

Or he tried to stab his mother. No it was a friend. His mother spilled it I think.

Was that Ted or Donald who grabbed onto that and the belt buckle? Can't remember.

Carson: I thought about bad things as a child: actually attacked my friend. As an adult I have saved many lives.

Hillary: I got people killed in Benghazi as an adult, as I child I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary years before he was known, and my middle name is "Sniper dodger".

Th'Pusher

12-07-2016, 08:26 PM

Intelligence and lack of political ambition. What made Castro qualified? And don't say being Mayor...we have a City Manager that actually runs things...
Castro was overwhelming confirmed by the senate with bipartisan support. I'd say that makes him qualified.

pgardn

12-07-2016, 10:24 PM

Carson: I thought about bad things as a child: actually attacked my friend. As an adult I have saved many lives.

Hillary: I got people killed in Benghazi as an adult, as I child I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary years before he was known, and my middle name is "Sniper dodger".

So which Republican pounced on the elite neurosurgeon trying to stab a friend? Donald or Ted. I know when I'm angry, I'll pull a kitchen knife on a neighbor just reflexively.

spurraider21

12-07-2016, 10:26 PM

:lmao van jones still trying to cope with things, going through his own version of the 12 step program :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ_FxzMOb3o

DMC

12-07-2016, 11:40 PM

So which Republican pounced on the elite neurosurgeon trying to stab a friend? Donald or Ted. I know when I'm angry, I'll pull a kitchen knife on a neighbor just reflexively.

All is fair in love and war. It's not like Carson destroyed 30K emails after being subpoenaed.

DMC

12-07-2016, 11:47 PM

Castro was overwhelming confirmed by the senate with bipartisan support. I'd say that makes him qualified.

So being selected makes him qualified.

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 12:15 AM

So being selected makes him qualified.

Apparently you don't know the difference between being nominated and being confirmed. To be confirmed overwhelmingly by a republican controlled Senate as an Obama nominee pretty much means the senate found you qualified for the job.

Considering you showed up in this Forum within the last few weeks, I don't know how much you know about the ins and outs of senate confirmations, but if an Obama nominee got confirmed, they were thoroughly vetted and likely qualified.

DMC

12-08-2016, 01:11 AM

Apparently you don't know the difference between being nominated and being confirmed. To be confirmed overwhelmingly by a republican controlled Senate as an Obama nominee pretty much means the senate found you qualified for the job.

Considering you showed up in this Forum within the last few weeks, I don't know how much you know about the ins and outs of senate confirmations, but if an Obama nominee got confirmed, they were thoroughly vetted and likely qualified.

So you're saying that you trust he was qualified because of the vetting process, but you instead said that the confirmation makes him qualified. Confirmation and even vetting aren't qualifications.

So often when you can't phrase your thoughts properly the person on the other side must lack understanding of the subject. That's a nice little mental insulation method you have going on there.

z0sa

12-08-2016, 08:45 AM

z0sa

12-08-2016, 08:48 AM

Castro was overwhelming confirmed by the senate with bipartisan support. I'd say that makes him qualified.

Lol

pgardn

12-08-2016, 08:50 AM

All is fair in love and war. It's not like Carson destroyed 30K emails after being subpoenaed.

Hell no it's not like that.
The doctor just got mad and tried to stab his friend.
It was just a harbinger of things to come as an elite neurosurgeon. Eventually he cut to save lives.
We all have done these things as youngsters... tried to kill our friend.

But we had mommy to admonish us and tell us how wrong it is because it's not good to kill.

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 01:15 PM

So you're saying that you trust he was qualified because of the vetting process, but you instead said that the confirmation makes him qualified. Confirmation and even vetting aren't qualifications.

So often when you can't phrase your thoughts properly the person on the other side must lack understanding of the subject. That's a nice little mental insulation method you have going on there.

Confirmation implies a vetting process. I didn't say he was qualified for being nominated as you suggested. He was confirmed overwhelmingly by republicans and democrats. That speaks to his qualification for the post.

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear ham hands. I should not assume people have the ability to infer.

z0sa

12-08-2016, 01:20 PM

Confirmation implies a vetting process. I didn't say he was qualified for being nominated as you suggested. He was confirmed overwhelmingly by republicans and democrats. That speaks to his qualification for the post.

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear ham hands. I should not assume people have the ability to infer.

I am inferring you are stupid and meant exactly what you said until you got called on it. Bet you voted for Hillary.

DMC

12-08-2016, 01:41 PM

You said it makes him qualified, It doesnt.

DMC

12-08-2016, 01:44 PM

Wild Cobra

12-08-2016, 02:39 PM

Hillary cost herself the White House.

I simply cannot believe anyone actually respects her. They must be absolute idiots!

Clipper Nation

12-08-2016, 02:51 PM

Nbadan

12-08-2016, 03:51 PM

There's no chance in hell that Rubio, Jeb, Kasich or even Cruz would have motivated the base or flipped the Rust Belt like Trump did

Yeah, I won't be too sure...Hillary was a flawed candidate, some Progressives were having this same debate during the Democratic Primary...when it came to choosing between Sanders and Clinton....This is why many 'liberals' stayed home...the Democratic Party is at a philosophical point, does it continue the Globalist/Pro-DNC/Pro-Trade/Corporatist/Pro War/Anti-union path its been on since Clinton, or does it go back to its grass roots ...Pride in our country..you know there is a difference between having pride in one's country, and/or what's made here, that not nationalism....whichever party can tap into those feelings best....wins....

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 04:04 PM

I am inferring you are stupid and meant exactly what you said until you got called on it. Bet you voted for Hillary.
I said he was confirmed overwhelmingly by the senate.

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 04:06 PM

Appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy.

There is no appeal to popularity. Castro being confirmed overwhelmingly and in a bipartisan fashion speaks to his qualification for the office.

DMC

12-08-2016, 04:25 PM

There is no appeal to popularity. Castro being confirmed overwhelmingly and in a bipartisan fashion speaks to his qualification for the office.

Sure there is. Saying x number of people feel that way is appeal to popularity. If you say those people are more qualified to feel that way, that's appeal to authority. All this "evidence" and not once do you actually discuss his qualifications.

And "speaks to" is a goalpost move. You originally said it "makes him qualified". What makes a person qualified are their experiences, their resume, not their approval ratings.

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 05:34 PM

What makes a person qualified are their experiences, their resume, not their approval ratings.

All addressed in his senate confirmation hearing:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?319983-1/hud-secretary-confirmation-hearing

It's only an hour. Take a look meat hands.

DMC

12-08-2016, 05:56 PM

All addressed in his senate confirmation hearing:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?319983-1/hud-secretary-confirmation-hearing

It's only an hour. Take a look meat hands.

You said the confirmation makes him qualified.

I'm still waiting for you to explain just how that works.

Or you can keep deflecting to things you didn't say and expect me to instead read into your statement, as if saying "makes him qualified" should be inferred to mean "supports the notion that he's qualified".

Th'Pusher

12-08-2016, 07:12 PM

You said the confirmation makes him qualified.

I'm still waiting for you to explain just how that works.

Or you can keep deflecting to things you didn't say and expect me to instead read into your statement, as if saying "makes him qualified" should be inferred to mean "supports the notion that he's qualified".

Ham hands, the pedantic troll :tu

DMC

12-08-2016, 11:16 PM

Ham hands, the pedantic troll :tu

If it's so pedantic, why do you spend 3 pages hiding from your own words? Just fess up and be done with it.

Th'Pusher

12-09-2016, 12:17 AM

If it's so pedantic, why do you spend 3 pages hiding from your own words? Just fess up and be done with it.

I already apologized for lack of clarity. But let's be honest, As soon as I introduced senate confirmation, most would have understood my point...Obama appointee, republican senate, overwhelming consent, kind of infers qualification.

I was not specific enough and asked too much of you. I accept responsibility. Going forward, I'll know how to interact with old meat hooks.

You drive a dodge, right? You wrap those ham hands around a leather wrapped steering wheel? Skull gear shift?

DMC

12-09-2016, 12:38 AM

I already apologized for lack of clarity. But let's be honest, As soon as I introduced senate confirmation, most would have understood my point...Obama appointee, republican senate, overwhelming consent, kind of infers qualification.

I was not specific enough and asked too much of you. I accept responsibility. Going forward, I'll know how to interact with old meat hooks.

You drive a dodge, right? You wrap those ham hands around a leather wrapped steering wheel? Skull gear shift?

You're still deflecting from your initial faux pas.

Why are you thinking about my hands? Right now I drive a Th'Pusher, like I stole it.

CosmicCowboy

12-09-2016, 08:50 AM

Glad to know that when Carson gets confirmed by the Senate that will make him qualified in Pushers world.

Th'Pusher

12-09-2016, 09:33 AM

Glad to know that when Carson gets confirmed by the Senate that will make him qualified in Pushers world.

Sure. When he is approved overwhelmingly by an opposition party controlled senate :lol with bipartisan support as Castro was, I will concede he has been thoroughly vetted and fully qualified for the job.

CosmicCowboy

12-09-2016, 09:48 AM

Sure. When he is approved overwhelmingly by an opposition party controlled senate :lol with bipartisan support as Castro was, I will concede he has been thoroughly vetted and fully qualified for the job.

I'm sure Dr. Carson is devastated that you don't approve.

DMC

12-09-2016, 07:09 PM

Sure. When he is approved overwhelmingly by an opposition party controlled senate :lol with bipartisan support as Castro was, I will concede he has been thoroughly vetted and fully qualified for the job.

When you're approved by a bunch of people who also aren't qualified, that makes you qualified.

Lib through and through.

z0sa

12-09-2016, 07:23 PM

I said he was confirmed overwhelmingly by the senate.

... which makes him qualified. Only it doesnt.

The president elect must be very qualified in your opinion, since 60 million people voted for him.

Wild Cobra

12-09-2016, 07:51 PM

This kind of hits the spot:

http://gramsgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hillary-change-462x330.jpg

ElNono

12-09-2016, 08:10 PM

As much as people want to say Hillary cost herself the White House, Trump won more than she lost. Even despite how hated she is, she would have blown out any other Republican. There's no chance in hell that Rubio, Jeb, Kasich or even Cruz would have motivated the base or flipped the Rust Belt like Trump did. It would have been Obama/Romney II in the best case scenario for Republicans.

tbh, Trump's anti-capitalist, anti-free market undertones is what really gave him the Rust Belt, and that's something the right, more than the left, needs to learn from going forward... once you're past the primaries, you gotta appeal to certain sections of the population which are not your base anymore... plenty of independents to be had.

ElNono

12-09-2016, 08:11 PM

z0sa

12-09-2016, 08:55 PM

Also, besides being a terrible candidate, as it has been remarked a lot of times, the fact that she was from the incumbent party matters too. Especially coming out of 8 years, you get a much larger attack surface...

charisma matters. Trump is a lying racist .00001 percenter but he doesnt look like hes tense and afraid of what you think about him and whether you can tell hes bsing. Hillary looked way more confident vs Bernie tbh......

DMC

12-09-2016, 08:59 PM

It's not hard to stand in one spot sporting a condescending grin. The hard part is illustrating why you deserve to be grinning, what's in your mental wallet?

Wild Cobra

12-09-2016, 10:17 PM

charisma matters. Trump is a lying racist .00001 percenter but he doesnt look like hes tense and afraid of what you think about him and whether you can tell hes bsing. Hillary looked way more confident vs Bernie tbh......

No, the likes of Hillary are the racists. They think that people of color need help because of their color. This is the very definition of racism, thinking one race is superior or inferior to another.

The Donald wants a level playing field. He wants to end favoritism

It is nice he isn't afraid to speak his mind. People should like him for that, and hate those like Hillary who lie through their teeth for votes.

Generally, you get those charismatic people who win elections. Like HS class leaders. They are voter for by popularity, bit intelligence.

How often is the class president the same as the valedictorian? Almost never, and also almost never part of the same clique.

I have been rather calm and relaxed after Trump won. I see no impending liberal givaways in the next for years.

Nbadan

12-09-2016, 11:04 PM

It is nice he isn't afraid to speak his mind.

As the President of the free world he can't just always say things that come to mind...he has to practice discretion....

Wild Cobra

12-09-2016, 11:10 PM

As the President of the free world he can't just always say things that come to mind...he has to practice discretion....

I doubt he would have risen to be as rich as he is if he didn't know how to use discretion when needed.

Nbadan

12-09-2016, 11:13 PM

I doubt he would have risen to be as rich as he is if he didn't know how to use discretion when needed.

Really? Is it so hard to stay rich when you start off with money?

Wild Cobra

12-09-2016, 11:16 PM

Really? Is it so hard to stay rich when you start off with money?

I see him as a polemicist. Intentionally saying things the way he does.

I love seeing the libtards go so off kilter when he does it.

I'm starting to like the guy!

DMC

12-10-2016, 12:40 AM

I've seen very few real examples of racism in my lifetime. What I have seen though is bigotry and ignorance and intolerance, but real racism is something you rarely encounter IRL.

DMC

12-10-2016, 12:42 AM

Really? Is it so hard to stay rich when you start off with money?

It's not hard to stay wealthy. It's easy not to however.

DMC

12-10-2016, 12:43 AM

I see him as a polemicist. Intentionally saying things the way he does.

I love seeing the libtards go so off kilter when he does it.

I'm starting to like the guy!

Until you find out that's who he really is and you realize we have a raging nutjob as POTUS. That's when the blood drains from your head and you do some deep couch sittin'

Wild Cobra

12-10-2016, 12:58 AM

Until you find out that's who he really is and you realize we have a raging nutjob as POTUS. That's when the blood drains from your head and you do some deep couch sittin'

I didn't want him as president, but the though oh Hillary scared the bejesus out of me.

I have hope that he will be a good president. That hope comes with a great deal of skepticism, but at least I am confident he will not try to steal out of my wallet, or my children's. I suspect he will start to reduce money used to subsidize other people, and force them to take charge of their own lives.

I see these as promising things. Think about how much less money will come from the government coffers if we stop subsidizing illegal aliens for starters.

rmt

12-10-2016, 03:00 AM

I didn't want him as president, but the though oh Hillary scared the bejesus out of me.

I have hope that he will be a good president. That hope comes with a great deal of skepticism, but at least I am confident he will not try to steal out of my wallet, or my children's. I suspect he will start to reduce money used to subsidize other people, and force them to take charge of their own lives.

I see these as promising things. Think about how much less money will come from the government coffers if we stop subsidizing illegal aliens for starters.

In the sense that he is not an ideologue nor is he a true Republican, I hope that he will put the country first - not party, not donors and not any crazy ideas.

Wild Cobra

12-10-2016, 03:31 AM

In the sense that he is not an ideologue nor is he a true Republican, I hope that he will put the country first - not party, not donors and not any crazy ideas.

I have a feeling he will.

z0sa

12-10-2016, 03:43 AM

No, the likes of Hillary are the racists. They think that people of color need help because of their color. This is the very definition of racism, thinking one race is superior or inferior to another.

The Donald wants a level playing field. He wants to end favoritism

It is nice he isn't afraid to speak his mind. People should like him for that, and hate those like Hillary who lie through their teeth for votes.

Generally, you get those charismatic people who win elections. Like HS class leaders. They are voter for by popularity, bit intelligence.

How often is the class president the same as the valedictorian? Almost never, and also almost never part of the same clique.

I have been rather calm and relaxed after Trump won. I see no impending liberal givaways in the next for years.

Actually, my class president was. Really cool guy too. I resent that statement.

As for minorities - it is about money. Only money. If blacks suddenly owned white wealth, youd have a lot of new black cops and disproportionate white killings in a decade or two at most.

DMC

12-10-2016, 11:59 AM

Actually, my class president was. Really cool guy too. I resent that statement.

As for minorities - it is about money. Only money. If blacks suddenly owned white wealth, youd have a lot of new black cops and disproportionate white killings in a decade or two at most.

I doubt that. The money doesn't create a different history for blacks in the US nor does it bridge the population gap. Until folks acknowledge the cultural differences between sections of the US, they won't be able to peacefully co-exist. You aren't going to buy the culture out of folks.

z0sa

12-10-2016, 12:31 PM

I doubt that. The money doesn't create a different history for blacks in the US nor does it bridge the population gap. Until folks acknowledge the cultural differences between sections of the US, they won't be able to peacefully co-exist. You aren't going to buy the culture out of folks.

Sure, thered be superficial and incredibly distracting differences of cultural nuance. But without the income to pay a fine, make bail, hire an experienced attorney, buy property in better testing school districts, white people would soon become perhaps even easier targets post-2008 working class blacks have unfortunately become. Additionally, after two decades of such a hypothetical transfer of wealth one assumes that largely disproportionate representation of blacks would be at least beginning to occur within many of the nation's branches of law enforcement since it would be mostly black neighborhoods, black school districts, and black businesses that needed protection. Jm2c

DMC

12-10-2016, 12:46 PM

Sure, thered be superficial and incredibly distracting differences of cultural nuance. But without the income to pay a fine, make bail, hire an experienced attorney, buy property in better testing school districts, white people would soon become perhaps even easier targets post-2008 working class blacks have unfortunately become. Additionally, after two decades of such a hypothetical transfer of wealth one assumes that largely disproportionate representation of blacks would be at least beginning to occur within many of the nation's branches of law enforcement since it would be mostly black neighborhoods, black school districts, and black businesses that needed protection. Jm2c

Not true. There's not enough blacks to have the "mostly" aspect you mention. They are 12% or so of the population. You'd have chaos when the overwhelmingly large majority of your populace is poor. 64% or so of the US is white. Imagine having a poverty level of 64%. You'd have Africa where ~50% of the population is poor. Right now USA has about 13% or so at the poverty level, so flip that to 65% and see what happens. While it's true that blacks have a larger poor percentage than whites (almost double), it doesn't make up for the population gap.

It's not as easy as putting the shoe on the other foot, and it's not as if all whites are wealthy. There are just more wealthy whites than wealthy blacks, but there are also more poor whites than poor blacks.

The goal, I think, is to get the black poverty level in line with whites, and not by creating more poor whites but by creating a culture that inspires and promotes success from within a cultural group instead of applying outside pressure that doesn't really do anything but create a wider wall between groups.

z0sa

12-10-2016, 12:55 PM

Not true. There's not enough blacks to have the "mostly" aspect you mention. They are 12% or so of the population. You'd have chaos when the overwhelmingly large majority of your populace is poor. 64% or so of the US is white. Imagine having a poverty level of 64%. You'd have Africa where ~50% of the population is poor. Right now USA has about 13% or so at the poverty level, so flip that to 65% and see what happens. While it's true that blacks have a larger poor percentage than whites (almost double), it doesn't make up for the population gap.

It's not as easy as putting the shoe on the other foot, and it's not as if all whites are wealthy. There are just more wealthy whites than wealthy blacks, but there are also more poor whites than poor blacks.

If all white wealth - 64% of the nation's gross assets, using your numbers - were transfered to 13% of the population, that portion of the population would on average have much higher wealth per household. If the hypothetical question is an evenly distributed percentage of wealth per some unit of measurement rather than a x for y transfer, yeah I see your point.

FWIW, I purposely intended the scenario to be extreme for the sake of highlighting my opinion that wealth is much more important for your rights in this country than any other single factor.

CosmicCowboy

12-10-2016, 01:58 PM

:lol

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15337427_1163756057074504_949099152900399795_n.png ?oh=c9fa4355dab817718588f05161748a54&oe=58B73B35

DMC

12-10-2016, 03:33 PM

If all white wealth - 64% of the nation's gross assets, using your numbers - were transfered to 13% of the population, that portion of the population would on average have much higher wealth per household. If the hypothetical question is an evenly distributed percentage of wealth per some unit of measurement rather than a x for y transfer, yeah I see your point.

FWIW, I purposely intended the scenario to be extreme for the sake of highlighting my opinion that wealth is much more important for your rights in this country than any other single factor.

Of course. Your ability to defend your rights has always been the reason we still have any.

spurraider21

12-10-2016, 03:42 PM

:lol

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15337427_1163756057074504_949099152900399795_n.png ?oh=c9fa4355dab817718588f05161748a54&oe=58B73B35
:lmao

still though, fake news is a thing... people are spreading a video of a mall in egypt and saying "look at all these muslims in sweden attacking a christmas tree"