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Clipper Nation
11-10-2016, 05:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/GU4SxGz.jpg

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 05:25 PM
Silver was one of the few saying Trump had a real chance on election night. He said it only took a polling error of a couple percent to elect Trump, and that's exactly what happened.

Clipper Nation
11-10-2016, 05:30 PM
Silver was one of the few saying Trump had a real chance on election night. He said it only took a polling error of a couple percent to elect Trump, and that's exactly what happened.

He was hedging his bets at the last minute to try to save his reputation, after over a full calendar year of Trump proving all his predictions wrong.

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 05:32 PM
He was hedging his bets at the last minute to try to save his reputation, after over a full calendar year of Trump proving all his predictions wrong.

He has been talking about Clinton's rust belt firewall being fragile as hell for a while now.

Clipper Nation
11-10-2016, 05:36 PM
He has been talking about Clinton's rust belt firewall being fragile as hell for a while now.

Yet he was still writing articles like "Trump Will Have A Hard Time Turning Blue States Red Next November," "Clinton's Leading In Exactly The States She Needs To Win," and "Clinton Probably Finished Off Trump Last Night."

Face it, the guy is just another pundit. He's not Nostradamus. He was also wrong about the 2014 midterms and Brexit. And every time he's wrong, he blames the polls for being "inaccurate" instead of owning up to his own shit predictions.

spurraider21
11-10-2016, 05:40 PM
Of course he's a pundit. Who said otherwise? Do you know what a pundit is?

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 05:44 PM
Yet he was still writing articles like "Trump Will Have A Hard Time Turning Blue States Red Next November," "Clinton's Leading In Exactly The States She Needs To Win," and "Clinton Probably Finished Off Trump Last Night."

Face it, the guy is just another pundit. He's not Nostradamus. He was also wrong about the 2014 midterms and Brexit. And every time he's wrong, he blames the polls for being "inaccurate" instead of owning up to his own shit predictions.

Do you even read the articles you bitch about? The "Clinton's Leading in Exactly The States She Needs to Win" article was about how fragile her firewall was, and how winning New Hampshire was the only thing between her winning and Trump winning in his projection at the time. Go look at that picture a few lines down in that article that shows New Hampshire being her crossover point to 270 and her next best state being a light red Nevada.

TheSanityAnnex
11-10-2016, 05:45 PM
What change in methodology did the LA Times poll use this time around? They were spot on pretty much the entire time.

Clipper Nation
11-10-2016, 06:15 PM
Of course he's a pundit. Who said otherwise? Do you know what a pundit is?

He built his brand off of ridiculing pundits and embracing the data instead. Since he got big, he's turned into the same pundits he used to make fun of.

spurraider21
11-10-2016, 06:20 PM
He built his brand off of ridiculing pundits and embracing the data instead. Since he got big, he's turned into the same pundits he used to make fun of.
What is a pundit

Splits
11-10-2016, 06:22 PM
What change in methodology did the LA Times poll use this time around? They were spot on pretty much the entire time.

:lmao "spot on"

They had Trump +3% and he will end up losing by 1-2%

hater
11-10-2016, 08:54 PM
Silver was one of the few saying Trump had a real chance on election night. He said it only took a polling error of a couple percent to elect Trump, and that's exactly what happened.

Wut? Donald just won Arizona and about to win Michigan which will give him 300+ electoral votes

Thats no polling error :lol

Thats a fucking anihilation by the use of a concrete dildo on Shillary :lmao

DMC
11-10-2016, 08:59 PM
What is a pundit

Philo still fishing for a 6 page argument over semantics.

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 09:03 PM
Wut? Donald just won Arizona and about to win Michigan which will give him 300+ electoral votes

Thats no polling error :lol

Thats a fucking anihilation by the use of a concrete dildo on Shillary :lmao

:lol annihilation when he didn't win the popular vote

hater
11-10-2016, 10:29 PM
:lol annihilation when he didn't win the popular vote

306 - 228 is not a concrete dildo anihilation? Come on now

And Shiltler is not sure to win popular vote. Not convincingly at least

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 10:33 PM
306 - 228 is not a concrete dildo anihilation? Come on now

And Shiltler is not sure to win popular vote. Not convincingly at least

No, winning the election by an expected -1.5 points isn't annihilation. Annihilation would be like Reagan shitting on Mondale in every state but Minnesota or FDR over Hoover. Annihilation would be when the vast majority of the country says one candidate was way better.

hater
11-10-2016, 10:38 PM
Disagree. it was a beatdown. Especially given the fact the corporate media called it for Shitler by 100 points.

It was not close.

HI-FI
11-10-2016, 10:43 PM
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Th'Pusher
11-10-2016, 10:48 PM
He built his brand off of ridiculing pundits and embracing the data instead. Since he got big, he's turned into the same pundits he used to make fun of.

What's Up Godord? Where have you been the last few months?You seemed to have disappeared.

baseline bum
11-10-2016, 10:54 PM
Disagree. it was a beatdown. Especially given the fact the corporate media called it for Shitler by 100 points.

It was not close.

How about that -2 point beatdown the Spurs put on the Rockets last night?

spursistan
11-10-2016, 11:06 PM
He built his brand off of ridiculing pundits and embracing the data instead. Since he got big, he's turned into the same pundits he used to make fun of.

Dude is coming off like a passionate partisan shill instead of a disinterested neutral statistician :lol..

InRareForm
11-10-2016, 11:10 PM
yeah like he was the only one thinking trump had a chance in the beginning. give me a break

He was 100 to 1 when it all began.

Silver gave thorough ways how trump could win. 32% is significant.

RandomGuy
11-11-2016, 01:35 AM
Do you even read the articles you bitch about?

C'mon, you and I both know the answer to that.

RandomGuy
11-11-2016, 01:38 AM
yeah like he was the only one thinking trump had a chance in the beginning. give me a break

He was 100 to 1 when it all began.

Silver gave thorough ways how trump could win. 32% is significant.

Eyup. 1's and 2's get rolled all the time on single dice.

To the OP:
His brand definitely took a hit. He did couch a lot of his language appropriately in ways that people with unsophisticated viewpoints will find weasel-y and people who know what the fuck they are talking about will recognize as good probabilistic language.

spankadelphia
11-11-2016, 08:59 AM
https://i.redd.it/ijb62qcfjtux.jpg

:rollin

Will Hunting
11-11-2016, 09:11 AM
Yeah all the pollsters got it wrong, but Silver got it a lot less wrong than everyone else, this election doesn't hurt his credibility at all.

Regarding the popular vote argument, it's somewhat misguided since Trump wasn't campaigning at all to win the popular vote. If he had spent time and money in states like CA or NY the popular vote would have been a diff story. The bottom line is that Trump and Hilary were campaigning to win 270 electoral votes and he did a better job than she did.

in2deep
11-11-2016, 09:48 AM
https://i.redd.it/ijb62qcfjtux.jpg

:rollin


:lol

Nbadan
11-12-2016, 04:12 AM
Yeah all the pollsters got it wrong, but Silver got it a lot less wrong than everyone else, this election doesn't hurt his credibility at all.

Regarding the popular vote argument, it's somewhat misguided since Trump wasn't campaigning at all to win the popular vote. If he had spent time and money in states like CA or NY the popular vote would have been a diff story. The bottom line is that Trump and Hilary were campaigning to win 270 electoral votes and he did a better job than she did.

With a little help from Comey perhaps...remember that all it took was a 1% turn in the electorate to turn this election....

rmt
11-12-2016, 04:29 AM
With a little help from Comey perhaps...remember that all it took was a 1% turn in the electorate to turn this election....

With a lot of help - more money, better ground game, better data operation, media, establishment, corporations, academia on her side.

DMX7
11-12-2016, 11:24 AM
Nate Silver isn't a pollster. He's doing analysis of the polls and putting them into his projection models.