What’s your unpopular opinion (s) on the Spurs team now & from historical perspective

[spursistan]

No essay-posts, just in bullet-points: an opinion that you hold and you might get flak for, but u just happen to believe in regardless, pertaining to both this Spurs team and its current roster or from broader historical perspective...

I’ll begin..

- Danny Green is the 2nd most impactful Spurs player after Kawhi: a 15-20 point playoff game from LDN is more likely to yield a win than Aldridge's 30-35 pts


- Pop would have run Tim Duncan out of town if the latter was your typical assertive black american Superstar..

[dabom]

You're right. :lol

[dabom]

Pop is a mediocre coach.

[Clipper Nation]

Pop is a racist who's uncomfortable around outspoken black players and doesn't want them on his team.

[dabom]

Pop is a racist who's uncomfortable around outspoken black players and doesn't want them on his team.

Stop dude.:lmao

[DAF86]

Tim Duncan isn't fundamental at all. There are many things about his game which are faaar from fundamental.

[skulls138]

Pop is a racist who's uncomfortable around outspoken black players and doesn't want them on his team.Cant argue with the results mr clipper fan. Clippers...so adorable :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Pop is a racist who's uncomfortable around outspoken black players and doesn't want them on his team.

I know I differ considerably with CN politics, but I actually agree with this statement. Loud democrats are usually closet racist.

[dabom]

I know I differ considerably with CN politics, but I actually agree with this statement. Loud democrats are usually closet racist.

I'm tired of unsubstantiated comments like this that are fucking divisive. :lmao

[dabom]

I can just assume by that comment that Bernie Sanders is a closet racist. :lmao

[dabom]

Pretty much any elected Democrat. :lmao

[houston spurs fan]

Pop is a racist who's uncomfortable around outspoken black players and doesn't want them on his team.
Copy and pasted a Harlem take. Come up with your own material troll...

[Brazil]

- Bruce Bowen never received the recognition he deserves both from fans and Pop

[bdictjames]

Kawhi Leonard is becoming Kobe-like and needs to develop his own personality, tbh. Its kinda boring.

[FromWayDowntown]

Tony Parker is the best point guard in the history of this franchise and has put up some monsterously good playoff performances in some really big spots against really good teams through the years;if he'a a Hall of Fame point guard because of team successes, those successes are significantly due to his play.

[SASdynasty!]

Tony Parker is the best point guard in the history of this franchise and has put up some monsterously good playoff performances in some really big spots against really good teams through the years;if he'a a Hall of Fame point guard because of team successes, those successes are significantly due to his play.

[SASdynasty!]

Tony Parker is still a top 3 player on this team because of how much he makes it. Also, it has less to do with how bad our backup PGs are and more to do with the fact that he's still one of the better point guards in the NBA.

[NameLess Scrub]

- Spurs could have won '14 and '13. They had all the tools to repeat.
- Kawhi is amazing. But a team of mostly Kawhiso won't win a title.
- Bruce Bowen was a dirty player who put fellow players health in danger and ST would hate him in another team, not because of his great defense, but because of his antics that are now considered un-Spurslike.

[r0drig0lac]

- Spurs could have won '14 and '13. They had all the tools to repeat.
- Kawhi is amazing. But a team of mostly Kawhiso won't win a title.
- Bruce Bowen was a dirty player who put fellow players health in danger and ST would hate him in another team, not because of his great defense, but because of his antics that are now considered un-Spurslike.

agree

[Clipper Nation]

Copy and pasted a Harlem take. Come up with your own material troll...
Great minds think alike, tbh. Pop is a fantastic coach, but also a racist.

[Captivus]

-Centers have to be black.

[Clipper Nation]

I can just assume by that comment that Bernie Sanders is a closet racist. :lmao
:lol Bernie is actually the perfect example of a Pop-esque racist. He went on some civil rights marches in college so he could look "progressive." But when too many blacks and Latinos started moving into his native Brooklyn for his liking, he packed his shit and moved to all-white Vermont.

White liberals are snakes. They tell black people to their face that they're all about equality and racial justice, but behind the scenes, they really hate black people.

[NameLess Scrub]

Copy and pasted a Harlem take. Come up with your own material troll...

I find interesting that they make a skin color and a behavior one same thing.

But then I think it must be a schtick..

[apalisoc_9]

Tony Parker is still a top 3 player on this team because of how much he makes it. Also, it has less to do with how bad our backup PGs are and more to do with the fact that he's still one of the better point guards in the NBA.

:lmao

[spursistan]

Tony Parker is still a top 3 player on this team because of how much he makes it. Also, it has less to do with how bad our backup PGs are and more to do with the fact that he's still one of the better point guards in the NBA.

Opinions with trolling intent isn't the aim of the thread..there is a difference between unpopular and infamous..

[elemento]

Without Duncan, Popovich would have retired ringless 10 years ago. All the "Spurs philosophy" and friendly system would never have worked with any other superstar other than TD.

[spursistan]

- Manu > Parker; but it's Ginobili who benefited more from playing with Prime Duncan (2003-2007) than Parker whose prime (2008-2013) began when TD's decline kicked in. Before you take a dim view of the "TP-led Spurs teams", you should acknowledge that reality. In fact, Parker's prime is starting to get severely underrated because of his last ugly two seasons..

[apalisoc_9]

- Manu > Parker; but it's Ginobili who benefited more from playing with Prime Duncan (2003-2007) than Parker whose prime (2008-2013) began when TD's decline kicked in. Before you take a dim view of the "TP-led Spurs teams", you should acknowledge that reality. In fact, Parker's prime is starting to get severely underrated because of his last ugly two seasons..

I was probably the biggest Tony Parker homer from 2010 to 2012..Shame Rapist stole his First team honours in 2012.

[Brazil]

an opinion that you hold and you might get flak for, but u just happen to believe in regardless


Opinions with trolling intent isn't the aim of the thread..there is a difference between unpopular and infamous..

make up your mind

[Raven]

Manu is the best player ever from a completeness standpoint.

[spursistan]

an opinion that you hold and you might get flak for, but u just happen to believe in regardless



make up your mind
In his particular case, it is fine if he wants to bring a heap of derision on his own head with that take instead of piquing the interest/curiosity of other posters unless you happen to be the only other poster finding that laughably trollish statement intriguing and engagable..:lol

[spursistan]

I was probably the biggest Tony Parker homer from 2010 to 2012..Shame Rapist stole his First team honours in 2012.

I won't deny that TP was a some kind of playoff under-performer, but man his supporting cast in those years (2009-2011) was an embarrassment outside post-prime TD(shot knees+ankle issues)& Manu :lol..If the Spurs had prime Parker transferred to 2003-2007 we almost certainly three-peat at least once in that period..

[spursistan]

- Kawhi has an acute case of tunnel vision-- not for selfish reasons-- that might hinder his development into an above average playmaker-- this is an issue that's maybe related to innate instincts and can't be improved by mechanical repetition. I hope he proves us wrong on this, too..

[Dre_7]

Kyle Anderson is a really good player

[Dre_7]

Signing RJ was the right decision

[spursistan]

All things considered—Duncan falloff and subsequent retirement; Splitter terminal physical breakdown; Cojo (shitty start to the season) and Baynes not improving beyond marginal role players; and Belinelli stinking up the joint ever since— Softridge is still more worth it than not, tbh.

[spursistan]

"Mills is trash"-- RD2191

[spursistan]

- Stephen Jackson is the most criminally overrated Spur player for his overall contribution to the team..

[Horse]

Although he's not the same Parker still puts the pieces in place making the team go. Due to injury we never saw Drob at his very best.

[RD2191]

"Mills is trash"-- RD2191 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690)
:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

- Bruce Bowen is overrated by Spurs fans..great defensive player, no doubt, but played in an era where his offensive flaws were never going to be exposed..also benefited greatly from having prime Tim Duncan and prime Alonzo Mourning behind him to protect the rim

- LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't worth it

- dabom is one of the 5 most intelligent posters in ST history..this one should be obvious, but a lot of people can't admit it, for whatever reason

- Apo is one of the biggest draws in the history of the internet..his name is mentioned more than any poster I've ever seen, not just on ST, but anywhere

[Chinook]

Jeff Ayres was not a horrible player; he was just a mediocre one on a team full of really good players.

[Chinook]

- Bruce Bowen is overrated by Spurs fans..great defensive player, no doubt, but played in an era where his offensive flaws were never going to be exposed..also benefited greatly from having prime Tim Duncan and prime Alonzo Mourning behind him to protect the rim

- LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't worth it

- dabom is one of the 5 most intelligent posters in ST history..this one should be obvious, but a lot of people can't admit it, for whatever reason

- Apo is one of the biggest draws in the history of the internet..his name is mentioned more than any poster I've ever seen, not just on ST, but anywhere

Obviously, Bowen is overrated. I think every Spurs fan knows that by now.

LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.

I agree about Kawhitstorm, though not in history. Dude's one of the best right now, though.

True, he does work. But he goes blue every once in a while, and I can't get a bead on when it's going to happen.

[DAF86]

I won't deny that TP was a some kind of playoff under-performer, but man his supporting cast in those years (2009-2011) was an embarrassment outside post-prime TD(shot knees+ankle issues)& Manu :lol..If the Spurs had prime Parker transferred to 2003-2007 we almost certainly three-peat at least once in that period..

Since when is 2009-2011 the Tony Parker's lead Spurs period?

[spursistan]

LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.


Yeah as I mentioned in my post: Looked at from all different angles, whether it's individual players or singular issues that have arisen ever since we signed him, nothing makes me regret the move even though I have grown to dislike his style of play. Heck, even Marc Gasol vs LMA-- should it have come down to that choice-- we are looking good on that front, too.

[SAGirl]

- Kawhi has an acute case of tunnel vision-- not for selfish reasons-- that might hinder his development into an above average playmaker-- this is an issue that's maybe related to innate instincts and can't be improved by mechanical repetition. I hope he proves us wrong on this, too..
Agreed. Thus why Kawhiso outside of closing out games is not winning basketball.

[lefty]

Tim Duncan never repeated




Kobe did








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[SAGirl]

All things considered—Duncan falloff and subsequent retirement; Splitter terminal physical breakdown; Cojo (shitty start to the season) and Baynes not improving beyond marginal role players; and Belinelli stinking up the joint ever since— Softridge is still more worth it than not, tbh.
Agreed too. You are on fire spursistan! :tu

I'd add that Boris looks done as a player. Lee + Pau = much better than Diaw and DWorst.

[NameLess Scrub]

Obviously, Bowen is overrated. I think every Spurs fan knows that by now.

LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.

I agree about Kawhitstorm, though not in history. Dude's one of the best right now, though.

True, he does work. But he goes blue every once in a while, and I can't get a bead on when it's going to happen.

We need some map or table to identify who's who on this ALT situation.

When Harlem says dabom is intelligent, I think Harlem = dabom.

Now you're interchanging dabom with Kawhistorm.

:downspin:

[NameLess Scrub]

Agreed. Thus why Kawhiso outside of closing out games is not winning basketball.

I'd add offensive droughts to the instances when Kawhiso is good.

[I. Hustle]

Duncan never missed the playoffs, Kobe did
http://i.imgur.com/2PSPjT2.jpg

[NameLess Scrub]

Yeah as I mentioned in my post: Looked at from all different angles, whether it's individual players or singular issues that have arisen ever since we signed him, nothing makes me regret the move even though I have grown to dislike his style of play. Heck, even Marc Gasol vs LMA-- should it have come down to that choice-- we are looking good on that front, too.

I don't dislike his style play, just his commitment and effort.. that's probably what you mean though :lol

[lefty]

Duncan never missed the playoffs, Kobe did
http://i.imgur.com/2PSPjT2.jpg
crofl

lol playff streak argument
By that logic, Blazers are the GOATs

lol going tothe playoffs every year and not repeating

[Joseph Kony]

The 2003 Spurs squad was absolute garbage outside of prime Tim Duncan and his 2003 run is one of the GOAT playoff performances and his Game 6 is the single most dominant game by any player on both sides of the court in NBA history

[Brazil]

In his particular case, it is fine if he wants to bring a heap of derision on his own head with that take instead of piquing the interest/curiosity of other posters unless you happen to be the only other poster finding that laughably trollish statement intriguing and engagable..:lol

:lol well at least he threw out there a real unpopular opinion tbh that was the point of the thread

[Old School 44]

David was an athletic freak, but the Iceman was a more skilled basketball player.

[Brazil]

Tim Duncan never repeated




Kobe did








https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-18-2015/gMWjEX.gif

Lefty did not know the difference between an opinion and a fact :lol

[Brazil]

- Stephen Jackson is the most criminally overrated Spur player for his overall contribution to the team..

+1

[SAGirl]

I do think Spurs could have had the B2B in 2013 and 14 finals... If not for a series of unfortunate events and meltdown.

I don't think that had they won in 2013, the fire wouldn't have been there for 2014, that's bullshit by ppl who want to justify and explain away the painful 2013 game 6 debacle.

[UnWantedTheory]

We all secretly miss Matt Bonner.

[lefty]

Lefty did not know the difference between an opinion and a fact :lol
Facts

Only facts matter



Fuck your opinion clown!

[GSH]

Tony Parker could have done better than Eva Longoria and Erin Barry.

[dabom]

- Bruce Bowen is overrated by Spurs fans..great defensive player, no doubt, but played in an era where his offensive flaws were never going to be exposed..also benefited greatly from having prime Tim Duncan and prime Alonzo Mourning behind him to protect the rim

- LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't worth it

- dabom is one of the 5 most intelligent posters in ST history..this one should be obvious, but a lot of people can't admit it, for whatever reason

- Apo is one of the biggest draws in the history of the internet..his name is mentioned more than any poster I've ever seen, not just on ST, but anywhere

Top 5 to a top 5. Respect. :tu

[GSH]

Top 5 to a top 5. Respect. :tu


http://i.imgur.com/6hMpxOQ.gif

[diego]

Since when is 2009-2011 the Tony Parker's lead Spurs period?

Made the same post but my phone did something to it... It became tonys team 2012-14 and he had a fantastic run of wcf and B2b finals but 09 was still Timmy and 10-11 was manu's brief period as team leader, unfortunately for the spurs dirk broke manu's nose in the 10 playoffs and grant Hill broke his arm right before the 2011 playoffs. 12 onward manu's role steadily diminished

Parker missed a third of the season 2010 and got benched for Hill in the playoffs, how on earth was it his team?

[dabom]

GSH delete that shit dude. Obscenity gets blocked in here. I mean no one wants to see that shit.

[tonight...you]

Sennheiser HD598's should be the Spurs headphones of choice, prior to games. Those things are great.

[rastaspur]

http://i.imgur.com/6hMpxOQ.gif

:lol

[Arcadian]

Spurs could have won '14 and '13. They had all the tools to repeat.


I do think Spurs could have had the B2B in 2013 and 14 finals... If not for a series of unfortunate events and meltdown.

Absolutely. That shouldn't even be controversial. They were 1 rebound or 1 free throw away from winning the '13 Finals. It was one of the most unlikely events in sports history that they lost at that point. For all intents and purposes, they did repeat as champions...minus one rebound. (Well, at least we can say they repeated as Western conference champs, which is actually a notable accomplishment in its own right. :lol)


The 2003 Spurs squad was absolute garbage outside of prime Tim Duncan and his 2003 run is one of the GOAT playoff performances and his Game 6 is the single most dominant game by any player on both sides of the court in NBA history

That's actually a popular opinion. I agree that it was a relatively weak title team, and that '03 Duncan had one of the best playoff runs of all time. But I wouldn't say it was total garbage. They had some good role players: a solid backup PG (Claxton), a solid backup center (Willis), two solid X-factors (Jackson and Ginobili), a defensive specialist to shut down the opposing team's best wing player (Bowen), and a group of shooting specialists (Kerr, Smith, Ferry). That's exactly what Prime Duncan needed around him to win a title. And they did.

[TD 21]

- Kawhi has an acute case of tunnel vision-- not for selfish reasons-- that might hinder his development into an above average playmaker-- this is an issue that's maybe related to innate instincts and can't be improved by mechanical repetition. I hope he proves us wrong on this, too..


Yeah as I mentioned in my post: Looked at from all different angles, whether it's individual players or singular issues that have arisen ever since we signed him, nothing makes me regret the move even though I have grown to dislike his style of play. Heck, even Marc Gasol vs LMA-- should it have come down to that choice-- we are looking good on that front, too.

:tu

Only an irrational person or insecure troll would disagree.

Had the '12-'15 Spurs been younger, I'd understand not wanting to break that up for anything short of a truly elite player. I could even understand not pursuing Aldridge if San Antonio were more of a destination city. Neither were the case, so you'd have to be out of your mind to turn down a top 15-20 player, especially when what was lost in the process was so minimal.

The decline of this team isn't about Aldridge, it's about long overdue and inevitable aging.

[TrainOfThought5]

- Manu > Parker; but it's Ginobili who benefited more from playing with Prime Duncan (2003-2007) than Parker whose prime (2008-2013) began when TD's decline kicked in. Before you take a dim view of the "TP-led Spurs teams", you should acknowledge that reality. In fact, Parker's prime is starting to get severely underrated because of his last ugly two seasons..

If he wouldve won Finals MVP in '13, he woyld be seen as a truly equal member of the big 3. But hes seen as the lesser of the 3

[spursistan]

- Stephen Jackson is the most criminally overrated Spur player for his overall contribution to the team..
Patty Mills is getting up there in the ranking of most overrated Spurs players ever (for his ability)..

[spursgu]

I guess OP needed a new player to hate on since Aldridge has been on fire lately.

[dabom]

Regular season meltdowns. Faggot spursfans. :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Had the Spurs won the 2013 title they would not have won the 2014 title.

2014 team was on a mission.