Marconi Murder -" Time for A tree and a rope"

[Nbadan]

http://www.dailytrib.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/oakley-and-palasciano.jpg

Outrage at Texas judge who said it's 'time for a tree and a rope' for black suspect who 'killed cop
By Daily Mail Reporter
Published: 20:00 EST, 23 November 2016 Updated: 20:27 EST, 23 November 2016



A Texas judge has come under fire for making a racially insensitive comment on Facebook about the suspect arrested in the shooting death of San Antonio police officer Detective Benjamin Marconi.

Burnet County Judge James Oakley of Spicewood wrote on the San Antonio police department's Facebook wall under a mug shot of suspect Otis Tyrone McKane, according to a screenshot, 'Time for a tree and a rope.'

Several people 'liked' the comment, but others were outraged.

'Very inappropriate remark,' wrote on commenter. 'I am as angry as anyone but for you to use FB to Lost my further support.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3966610/Outrage-Texas-judge-said-s-time-tree-rope-black-suspect-killed-cop-ambush.html#ixzz4QtW1ohq1

So much for due process in Texas I suppose....I wonder who Oakley voted for in the last election btw.....

[boutons_deux]

once a slave state, always a slave state. That culture didn't evaporate in 1865 or 1965.

[Thread]

I don't recall Bin Laden getting any of that due process.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://www.dailytrib.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/oakley-and-palasciano.jpg

Outrage at Texas judge who said it's 'time for a tree and a rope' for black suspect who 'killed cop
By Daily Mail Reporter
Published: 20:00 EST, 23 November 2016 Updated: 20:27 EST, 23 November 2016





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3966610/Outrage-Texas-judge-said-s-time-tree-rope-black-suspect-killed-cop-ambush.html#ixzz4QtW1ohq1

So much for due process in Texas I suppose....I wonder who Oakley voted for in the last election btw.....

Doubt he was to be the trial judge.

Due process will stand unless we just drone his ass like the other American citizens we've killed over the last few years.

[Nbadan]

Doubt he was to be the trial judge.

Due process will stand unless we just drone his ass like the other American citizens we've killed over the last few years.

I'm gonna take a couple of controversial stands...

I'm not in favor of re-classifying attacks on Police at terrorists acts.....I think they are despicable acts, as the Marconi murder shows, but a terrorist act should be an attack on the general populous and not specific to any group/individual...

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm gonna take a couple of controversial stands...

I'm not in favor of re-classifying attacks on Police at terrorists acts.....I think they are despicable acts, as the Marconi murder shows, but a terrorist act should be an attack on the general populous and not specific to any group/individual...

I don't think that's particularly controversial. I agree.

[Nbadan]

Also, mandatory death sentence or mandatory minimum sentences could limit the judicial system from running a more reasonable course of action . For instance, see 3 strike laws or mandatory minimum sentences laws....if the DA wants capital murder, then bring the charges and prove it in court on a case by case basis....for instance, what if some 18 year old kid gets drunk and kills a cop sitting on the side of the road, could the kid get life or the death sentence based on the new classification? I support the Marconi family in their loss, especially on this day of being grateful for what we have, but lets not let our hearts lead or heads here...

[Nbadan]

Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Off to eat a yummy meal.

[TeyshaBlue]

:tu

[CosmicCowboy]

Also, mandatory death sentence or mandatory minimum sentences could limit the judicial system from running a more reasonable course of action . For instance, see 3 strike laws or mandatory minimum sentences laws....if the DA wants capital murder, then bring the charges and prove it in court on a case by case basis....for instance, what if some 18 year old kid gets drunk and kills a cop sitting on the side of the road, could the kid get life or the death sentence based on the new classification? I support the Marconi family in their loss, especially on this day of being grateful for what we have, but lets not let our hearts lead or heads here...

By definition your drunk teenager example doesn't qualify as a capital crime.

[DMX7]

I don't recall Bin Laden getting any of that due process.

He wasn't a citizen. He was an enemy combatant of war who tried to resist capture with deadly force.

[Quadzilla99]

He wasn't a citizen. He was an enemy combatant of war who tried to resist capture with deadly force.

Pfft facts..you clearly don't know how to argue in today's America

[Thread]

He wasn't a citizen. He was an enemy combatant of war who tried to resist capture with deadly force.

Relax, I was just checkin' assholes.

[Wild Cobra]

Doubt he was to be the trial judge.

Due process will stand unless we just drone his ass like the other American citizens we've killed over the last few years.

I'm confused.

Didn't white people get hung for crimes also?

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm all for due process, then a tree and a rope.

[Thread]

I'm confused.

Didn't white people get hung for crimes also?

Yes, during the Rodney King riots. We were hung from telephone poles in Los Angeles.

[Thread]

I'm all for due process, then a tree and a rope.

In all probability Bin Laden probably did it.

The point is moot now though. Barry lynched him, just like that.

[Nbadan]

In all probability Bin Laden probably did it.

The point is moot now though. Barry lynched him, just like that.

There is zero proof on Bin Laden...be difficult to prove IMO.

[Nbadan]

By definition your drunk teenager example doesn't qualify as a capital crime.

I was attempting to project making the killing of any police officer while on duty a capital crime as some want...

[Spurtacular]

once a slave state, always a slave state. That culture didn't evaporate in 1865 or 1965.

Texas was never a slave state, moron.

[Spurtacular]

I'm all for due process, then a tree and a rope.

Don't care what color he is. He murdered someone in cold blood. Nobody should be shedding a tear for that piece of waste.

[CosmicCowboy]

Texas was never a slave state, moron.

Technically it was. Some owned slaves in east Texas.

[DMC]

Funny how tree and rope became a black thing when historically whites have been hanged at a much much higher clip. In Texas it means vigilante justice, nothing like the Mississippi Burning aspect but a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Dale, OBL got due process. He got what was due.

btw, as someone once said, you'll be hanged, not hung. You're not a tapestry.

[DMC]

In all probability Bin Laden probably did it.

The point is moot now though. Barry lynched him, just like that.

OBL doesn't fall under the Bill of Rights, he's not afforded due process. Plenty in the WTC weren't as well.

[boutons_deux]

Ignorant dickless

Check the Rep of TX Constitution :lol

[Spurtacular]

Technically it was. Some owned slaves in east Texas.

People owned slaves in Massachusetts, too. It was never a slave state though.

[z0sa]

Texas was never a slave state, moron.

It sure fought to defend the institution...

[monosylab1k]

Relax, I was just checkin' assholes.

Except the only asshole you checked was your own, Cub. And now you got shit all over your finger.

[Spurtacular]

It sure fought to defend the institution...

How's that?

[DMC]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/US_Slave_Free_1789-1861.gif

[z0sa]

How's that?

Lol ok

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

Take 30 seconds and educate yourself with a google search. Texas specifically published its rationale, which included confirming solidarity with its "sister slave owning states. Therefore one can safely assert Texas was both a slave state and a member of the confederacy. Ive read primary and secondary sources confirming Texas' direct military involvement, which in the first half of the war was considerable.

[DMC]

Lol ok

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

Take 30 seconds and educate yourself with a google search. Texas specifically published its rationale, which included confirming solidarity with its "sister slave owning states. Therefore one can safely assert Texas was both a slave state and a member of the confederacy. Ive read primary and secondary sources confirming Texas' direct military involvement, which in the first half of the war was considerable.

but I don't remember seeing any Negroes in the old John Wayne movies!

[z0sa]

but I don't remember seeing any Negroes in the old John Wayne movies!

Clearly they were all too busy working the underground railroad to Texas during western times

[Spurtacular]

Lol ok

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

Take 30 seconds and educate yourself with a google search. Texas specifically published its rationale, which included confirming solidarity with its "sister slave owning states. Therefore one can safely assert Texas was both a slave state and a member of the confederacy. Ive read primary and secondary sources confirming Texas' direct military involvement, which in the first half of the war was considerable.

What exactly do you think you've proven? At a three minute glance (yea, I took more than 30 seconds), I see no official stance by Texas there that they were pro slavery.

[z0sa]

What exactly do you think you've proven? I see no official stance by Texas there that they were pro slavery.

Fuck you.

[Spurtacular]

Fuck you.

You haven't proven anything, dude. We're having a discussion; and you haven't proven a damn thing. What do you think you've proven; that there were racialists in Texas? That wasn't being argued.

[z0sa]

You haven't proven anything, dude. We're having a discussion; and you haven't proven a damn thing. What do you think you've proven; that there were racialists in Texas? That wasn't being argued.

Public declaration of solidarity with sister slave owning states, secession into confederacy with 100 percent slave owning states, public declaration of inferior origin and lack of establishing figures that are black.

Holy fuck.

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

...An inferior and dependant race, and in that condition only...

What condition is that, hint, it is related to black people, and usually gets cited as the primary cause of the civil war. Answer: it is the thing you have proven you know fuck all about, slavery in the South.

Already found records of slaves living as such in Texas during the civil war if youd like to continue second grade history.

[monosylab1k]

www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/amp/In-Texas-history-of-slavery-unique-but-not-5879057.php


Texas applied for statehood just 16 years before the Civil War and was admitted to the Union in 1845 as a slave state.

[Spurtacular]

Public declaration of solidarity with sister slave owning states, secession into confederacy with 100 percent slave owning states, public declaration of inferior origin and lack of establishing figures that are black.

Holy fuck.

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

...An inferior and dependant race, and in that condition only...

What condition is that, hint, it is related to black people, and usually gets cited as the primary cause of the civil war. Answer: it is the thing you have proven you know fuck all about, slavery in the South.

Already found records of slaves living as such in Texas during the civil war if youd like to continue second grade history.

The term sister slave owning states is suspiciously not presented in any specific context. It would seem that that term very well could have been used as a matter of fact representation of their designation rather than some sort of outright endorsement of slavery as you are asserting.

As for the quote, you act as though this argument is about whether or not Texans were racialists or not; nay, the argument regarded the Texan stance on slavery. Frankly, there's never been a country in the history of the world that did not favor a dominant race either. Modern America has attempted to defy the natural trend, but that is of little to no bearing on the argument at hand.

And I would not doubt that there were possibly pockets of slavery or isolated occurrences within Texas. But the point again is what their official stance was regarding slavery; they were not out in front advocating on it, as they were not a slave state and there was no significant push for it.

[Thread]

Except the only asshole you checked was your own, Cub. And now you got shit all over your finger.

2?

[DMC]

Clearly they were all too busy working the underground railroad to Texas during western times

Later renamed "subway" which in turn spawned many sandwich shops. That's why I see so many black people working there. Makes sense.

[boutons_deux]

once a slave state, always a slave state. That culture didn't evaporate in 1865 or 1965.

[boutons_deux]

TX slave holders were most wealthy, slaves were 25%+ of TX population



https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/yps01

... buy all y'all shitkickers keep trying, in your unlimited un-schooled ignorance, to spin TX as some kind of knitter loving paradise.

Also, after Emancipation, TX passed 1000s of state FELONY laws to go after the knitters.

[Winehole23]

Frankly, there's never been a country in the history of the world that did not favor a dominant race either. Modern America has attempted to defy the natural trend, but that is of little to no bearing on the argument at hand. in your opinion, was the attempt to reverse the natural trend desirable, prudent and wholesome?


And I would not doubt that there were possibly pockets of slavery or isolated occurrences within Texas. But the point again is what their official stance was regarding slavery; they were not out in front advocating on it, as they were not a slave state and there was no significant push for it.Where did you get this bilge that Texas was not a slave state and did not identify as such? Are you reciting your Jr High History by heart? Avuncular Texas history from your own family?

[Spurtacular]

in your opinion, was the attempt to reverse the natural trend desirable, prudent and wholesome?

I think there are benefits to multiculturalism. Though, I think it's somewhat mythological that we're a melting pot in some respects. We still see great divisions among race lines in this country. And I think homogenous countries have some inherent advantages. Desirable from that standpoint? No. Prudent? To who? It happens when people who want cheap labor and don't give a sh** about the longterm outlook of a country. Wholesome? It can be. It has been for some. It's healthy for people to look beyond skin color. Not all "cultures" do that though, and therein lays the problems.

[Spurtacular]

N/M