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CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 04:22 PM
No posts about that because it was a car/machete instead of a gun?
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 04:27 PM
"This car just swerved and ran into a whole group of people," said Nicole Kreinbrink, who was walking down the street when she saw the car hit people who had evacuated an academic building during a fire alarm.
"All these people were running and screaming and yelling," she added.
Jacob Bowers, an OSU sophomore, was sitting on a bench about 100 feet away when he noticed people running.
"Then I heard someone yell, 'He's got a knife.' And I saw a guy with a big-ass knife just chasing people around. When I saw that, I grabbed all my stuff and started running," Bowers said.
Bowers said he looked back to see a police officer on the scene. The officer yelled to the suspect, "Drop it and get down or I'll shoot," and then fired on the suspect, Bowers said.
"The man was going insane," he said.
Law enforcement officials told NBC News the suspect's name is Abdul Artan, an 18-year-old student at the university. He was a Somali refugee who left his homeland with his family in 2007, lived in Pakistan and then came to the United States in 2014 as a legal permanent resident of the United States, officials said.
The motive was unknown, but officials said the attack was clearly deliberate and may have been planned in advance.
"This was done on purpose," Stone said.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-dead-after-ohio-state-university-car-knife-attack-n689076
Th'Pusher
11-28-2016, 04:32 PM
No posts about it until we learned he was likely Muslim, tbh. Now we can discuss the need for some extreme vetting!
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 04:33 PM
No posts about it until we learned he was likely Muslim, tbh. Now we can discuss the need for some extreme vetting!
Good subject. You start.
Th'Pusher
11-28-2016, 04:38 PM
Good subject. You start.
Let's establish what vetting process he went through in 2014 which allowed him to become a legal permanent resident. Once that's be established we can figure out how to make it more EXTREME!!!
clambake
11-28-2016, 04:40 PM
somali my ass.
he was from kenya.
RD2191
11-28-2016, 04:45 PM
Luckily he wasn't white or he'd of mowed people down with an assault rifle.
Trill Clinton
11-28-2016, 04:54 PM
People were seriously hurt and the gun nuts are trolling. What a sad world we live in.
I'm praying for a speedy recovery to all the victims of this senseless crime!
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 04:56 PM
Luckily he wasn't white or he'd of mowed people down with an assault rifle.
The allahu akbar crowd has proven to be pretty good with guns as well.
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 04:56 PM
People were seriously hurt and the gun nuts are trolling. What a sad world we live in.
I'm praying for a speedy recovery to all the victims of this senseless crime!
suck a dick, faggot.
Trill Clinton
11-28-2016, 05:00 PM
suck a dick, faggot.
You always have dick on your mind. You're 60 years old with the maturity of an adolescent.
TheSanityAnnex
11-28-2016, 05:03 PM
Not sure how this happened I've been told here we have an excellent vetting process.
Clipper Nation
11-28-2016, 05:59 PM
Not sure how this happened I've been told here we have an excellent vetting process.
The same people saying that are also the idiots who insist that Islam and terrorism aren't linked in any way.
IceColdBrewski
11-28-2016, 06:04 PM
Oh great. Now Obama will coming on TV in the next couple of days to scold us about how great muslim people are.
TheSanityAnnex
11-28-2016, 06:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyX-3KQXEAAsJsw.jpg:large
https://issuu.com/thelantern/docs/082516
TheSanityAnnex
11-28-2016, 06:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png (http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png)
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 06:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png (http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png)
:lmao
DarrinS
11-28-2016, 06:43 PM
Religion of peace
Bender
11-28-2016, 07:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png (http://i.imgur.com/FgNwS1Y.png)
was that for real?
baseline bum
11-28-2016, 07:29 PM
was that for real?
It's real
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clambake
11-28-2016, 07:32 PM
ha
Spurminator
11-28-2016, 07:43 PM
It was reported as a shooter initially. Kaine corrected this in a later tweet, which is what sensible people do.
Bender
11-28-2016, 07:44 PM
It's real
In a big hurry to jump on the anti gun agenda.
maybe he was deeply saddened that the terrorist was killed with a LEOs gun.
It was reported as a shooter initially. Kaine corrected this in a later tweet, which is what sensible people do.
so he tweeted that he was wrong and it wasn't in fact gun violence?
monosylab1k
11-28-2016, 07:48 PM
No posts about that because it was a car/machete instead of a gun?
Yeah it's horrible, all 0 people he killed with that high powered non-gun.
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 07:49 PM
If he had just had his safe space prayer zone...
CosmicCowboy
11-28-2016, 07:50 PM
Yeah it's horrible, all 0 people he killed with that high powered non-gun.
Fortunately he sucked as a jihadist.
Will Hunting
11-28-2016, 07:54 PM
Srs question, what started this "safe space" joke? I've been seeing it all over the place and I don't understand why :lol
Spurminator
11-28-2016, 08:04 PM
so he tweeted that he was wrong and it wasn't in fact gun violence?
Yes.
Spurminator
11-28-2016, 08:05 PM
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ElNono
11-28-2016, 08:41 PM
Did Hillary said he's Russian?
spurraider21
11-28-2016, 09:24 PM
It was reported as a shooter initially. Kaine corrected this in a later tweet, which is what sensible people do.tbh i saw thousands of muslims celebrating today's shooter
monosylab1k
11-28-2016, 10:14 PM
Fortunately he sucked as a jihadist.
Fortunately he didn't play "Real Life Jihad" on easy mode with an AR-15.
spurraider21
11-28-2016, 10:20 PM
Fortunately he didn't play "Real Life Jihad" on easy mode with an AR-15.his weapon was a knife. so naturally the only one ending up dead was him. wonder if that'd been the case with the trusty ar-15
:cry but knives are more lethal
monosylab1k
11-28-2016, 10:23 PM
his weapon was a knife. so naturally the only one ending up dead was him. wonder if that'd been the case with the trusty ar-15
:cry but knives are more lethal
:lol
Cue some gun lover posting a news story about a man in Japan mass killing 2 people with a knife.
spurraider21
11-28-2016, 10:24 PM
:lol
Cue some gun lover posting a news story about a man in Japan mass killing 2 people with a knife.in a retirement home for comatose paraplegics
He lost his safe space.
They should protest, that will stop all the nonsense.
Yeah it's horrible, all 0 people he killed with that high powered non-gun.
So if he wounded 8 with a gun instead of a knife, would that be ok?
Trill Clinton
11-28-2016, 11:52 PM
:lol
Cue some gun lover posting a news story about a man in Japan mass killing 2 people with a knife.
in a retirement home for comatose paraplegics
:lol
You she-men getting you talking points from your wives, you balls in jars under her care.
Spurminator
11-28-2016, 11:54 PM
So if he wounded 8 with a gun instead of a knife, would that be ok?
He'd be a pretty terrible shot to wound 8 and kill none.
He'd be a pretty terrible shot to wound 8 and kill none.
If you use a car and a knife and cannot kill anyone (see Paris btw), you're not that efficient.
So you didn't answer the question. Would it be ok if he wounded 8 using a gun instead of a knife? Both are penetrating wounds.
So why did the cops not use a knife to subdue him?
Spurminator
11-29-2016, 12:04 AM
If you use a car and a knife and cannot kill anyone (see Paris btw), you're not that efficient.
So you didn't answer the question. Would it be ok if he wounded 8 using a gun instead of a knife? Both are penetrating wounds.
No, it's not okay. Yes, it's preferable to the likely result if he had a gun.
What's so hard to understand about this?
So why did the cops not use a knife to subdue him?
Because guns shoot bullets which can reach a target from a farther distance than a knife, making the use of a gun a much better way for a trained professional to eliminate a threat.
spurraider21
11-29-2016, 12:26 AM
You she-men getting you talking points from your wives, you balls in jars under her care.be careful. i heard republicans won the election because liberals had been mean on the internet.
monosylab1k
11-29-2016, 01:58 AM
So why did the cops not use a knife to subdue him?
Because it's way easier to kill people with a gun. Were you trying to make my point for me?
be careful. i heard republicans won the election because liberals had been mean on the internet.
Did you vet that by visiting a dozen sites?
Because it's way easier to kill people with a gun. Were you trying to make my point for me?
So your point was that it's easier to kill someone with a gun? Pretty sure that was established a couple hundred years ago.
My point was that the people who hate that the cops and hate guns called the cops with guns when poor mistreated muslim went Trevor mode.
No, it's not okay. Yes, it's preferable to the likely result if he had a gun.
What's so hard to understand about this?
Because guns shoot bullets which can reach a target from a farther distance than a knife, making the use of a gun a much better way for a trained professional to eliminate a threat.
The same trained professionals that shoot blacks for no reason??
CosmicCowboy
11-29-2016, 08:08 AM
The same trained professionals that shoot blacks for no reason??
No, statistically that would be other blacks shooting blacks.
pgardn
11-29-2016, 09:22 AM
So your point was that it's easier to kill someone with a gun? Pretty sure that was established a couple hundred years ago.
My point was that the people who hate that the cops and hate guns called the cops with guns when poor mistreated muslim went Trevor mode.
When people are getting attacked and there are bystanders, who are all involved supposed to call exactly?
And the people who called this in hate guns and cops? What?
What is your point again?
monosylab1k
11-29-2016, 11:23 AM
My point was that the people who hate that the cops and hate guns called the cops with guns when poor mistreated muslim went Trevor mode.
What???? Maybe don't let ducks use your account.
CosmicCowboy
11-29-2016, 11:37 AM
Take a good look at the Facebook post of the Ohio State University attacker.
Sure, there's plenty of that familiar jihadist rhetoric. "America, stop interfering with other countries, especially the Muslim Ummah. We are not weak... By Allah, we will not let you sleep unless you give peace to the Muslims. You will not celebrate or enjoy any holiday."
But what comes through most is this whining sense of victimhood, that he's forced to commit these atrocious, barbaric attacks on innocent people out of a righteous sense of self-defense to protect his feelings.
"I am sick and tired of seeing my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters being killed and tortured EVERYWHERE. Seeing my fellow Muslims being tortured, raped and killed in Burma led to a boiling point."
See, Muslims aren't being killed and tortured everywhere. It would be nice if someone close to him had told him that, and if fewer people helped fuel that rage-inducing falsehood. If he ever bothered to read a book or the news about places like Syria and Iraq, he would have learned that Muslims are mostly being killed and tortured by fellow Muslims. Who does he think are the majority of ISIS victims? Who does he think are blowing up mosques from Iraq to Yemen? Who does he think blew up those Muslims in the hospital in Quetta, Pakistan, or the Syrian refugee camp in Jordan, or set off the car bombs in downtown Kabul, Afghanistan, or the minivan filled with explosives in central Baghdad? It's not Westerners! You don't see American communities churning out waves and waves of gleeful suicide bombers!
Burma? Burma? If you're so mad about that, buy a plane ticket and go on a rampage over there. What, you think the students at OSU secretly control the levers of power in Naypyidaw? (That's the Myanmar capital, and don't feel bad, I had to look it up, too.)
He's convinced he and his fellow members of his faith are victims of an aggressive, malevolent West.
He believes this while attending class at Ohio State University. Nobody's oppressing him. No one's imprisoning him without charges, trial, or appeal. Nobody's trying to kill him. No one's closing his mosque, or banning his faith. He's got a better life with more opportunities, freedom, and material abundance than probably 90-some percent of his fellow Muslims around the world. And he still thinks he's a victim of a malevolent America, and that everyone around him is a legitimate target for retribution.
He's convinced that every Muslim around him privately agrees with him, but hides their true views from the non-Muslim world around them. He acknowledges that his fellow believers are carrying out "lone wolf attacks" and even taunts, "every single Muslim who disapproves of my actions is a sleeper cell, waiting for a signal. I am warning you, Oh America."
Is this guy a jihadist? Sure. Even worse, he's a whiny Millennial jihadist, who thinks that everything in life is so uniquely unfair to him, and that he's unjustly victimized everywhere he goes. In an interview with the campus newspaper this summer, he said, "If people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don't know what they're going to think, what's going to happen. But I don't blame them, it's the media that put the picture in their heads."
What, the unfair picture that any pious Muslim could be sympathetic to terrorists, a ticking time bomb, and full of murderous rage against everyone around him? Yeah, you sure showed us, pal! Allow me to float the theory that some people around this guy warily treated him like he was a nascent jihadist because he acted like a nascent jihadist.
Accounts from the scene:
Witnesses said they and dozens of others initially ran toward the car, thinking the driver might be injured in the crash. Student Armand Ghazi had heard the initial screams, so he was one of those who ran to help. But then he saw Artan — whom he described as dazed — jump from the Civic.
"He seemed like a crazed animal," said Ghazi, a 20-year-old material-sciences engineering major from Cincinnati. "He seemed like he was determined. He seemed like he was there for one reason — to do as much damage as he could."
Tanner Sereno, a junior studying welding engineering, also saw Artan jump from the car, swinging and slashing wildly with the knife. When another student walked to the car to help, Sereno said, "the attacker tried to grab his backpack and slash the kid from behind."
Artan took off straight down 19th Avenue, still wielding his blade, but he didn't get far. OSU Police Officer Alan Horujko — a 28-year-old who has been with the department since January 2015 — confronted Artan and shot and killed him there, west of College Road and near an alley, just a minute later at 9:53 a.m.
You may hear, "well, he didn't kill anyone." Not for lack of trying.
Of the 11 people who were hurt, two were not transported by paramedics but sought medical care on their own later.
Of five transported to Wexner, two had stab wounds, two were hit by the car and one had a laceration, Thomas said.
Two more went to OhioHealth Riverside Methodist Hospital, both hit by the car. One had orthopedic injuries and the other had a skull fracture and appeared to be in stable condition, Thomas said. At OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, two people were treated for lacerations, and another went later with injuries from the car. All are expected to survive.
It's nice to know we can skip over the "was this workplace violence?" or "what on earth could be his true motive?" questions. One of the most maddening factors of life in the Obama era was that as soon as something like this happened, we were forced to argue that we had just seen an actual jihadist attack, instead of having to rule out every other conceivable motive.
(from the national review)
Spurminator
11-29-2016, 12:20 PM
The same trained professionals that shoot blacks for no reason??
That's your red herring, don't project it onto me.
spurraider21
11-29-2016, 04:49 PM
Did you vet that by visiting a dozen sites?what's your list of reliable sources?
What???? Maybe don't let ducks use your account.Trevor, from GTA V. Surely you have driven into a crowd, jumped out and stabbed people.
Without the gun stopping him, he could have done real damage.
If students were armed, maybe his tirade never happens.
what's your list of reliable sources?
I am still waiting for yours.
Thread
11-30-2016, 11:09 AM
Trevor, from GTA V. Surely you have driven into a crowd, jumped out and stabbed people.
Without the gun stopping him, he could have done real damage.
If students were armed, maybe his tirade never happens.
Yep, now everyone who got cut will have those scars on their body till the day they die.
spurraider21
11-30-2016, 12:25 PM
I am still waiting for yours.i answered your question the best i could, ie i dont have a pre-selected list
what's your list?
i answered your question the best i could, ie i dont have a pre-selected list
what's your list?
Well if I had one I wouldn't need yours. You're the one that scoffed at a source.
CosmicCowboy
11-30-2016, 08:16 PM
They all have their slant. Best to just keep hitting links till you find the original quote and make up your own mind.
spurraider21
11-30-2016, 09:29 PM
Well if I had one I wouldn't need yours. You're the one that scoffed at a source.
here's you scoffing at infowars. so what's your list?
I don't listen to or read Infotards.
I just know that Stein has no reason to want a recount. Hillary wants it, but doesn't want to be seen as someone desperate. Jill loves desperation, she's lost everything she's ever tried to win so she's the face of it.
DarrinS
11-30-2016, 09:37 PM
Did they ever figure out a motive in this case?
here's you scoffing at infowars. so what's your list? There's a difference between saying I don't read it and dismissing your message because you did.
spurraider21
12-01-2016, 01:41 AM
There's a difference between saying I don't read it and dismissing your message because you did.calling them Infotards wasn't you scoffing? oh. so whats your list of trustworthy news sources?
calling them Infotards wasn't you scoffing? oh. so whats your list of trustworthy news sources?
Not unless you don't know the definition of "scoff".
I didn't speak to someone in a dismissive way. I denied reading the site. I can dismiss the site without scoffing at the person who said it. You scoffed at the poster because of the site. Big difference, you should know that context matters.
I told you I don't have a list. So not only are you lacking the ability to discriminate contexts, you also have shitty recall.
spurraider21
12-01-2016, 04:54 AM
Not unless you don't know the definition of "scoff".
I didn't speak to someone in a dismissive way. I denied reading the site. I can dismiss the site without scoffing at the person who said it. You scoffed at the poster because of the site. Big difference, you should know that context matters.
I told you I don't have a list. So not only are you lacking the ability to discriminate contexts, you also have shitty recall.so where did you read the news yesterday?
so where did you read the news yesterday?
Here
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