How long until

[Axl Rose]

Night of the long knives? Surely the clinton pizza gate cabal won't get off so easily, along with all the other traitors in our establishment. Trump strikes me as extremely vengeful and has made numerous references to 9/11 and going so far to say he wants to investigate it, which may explain his hatred for the bush family. He also knows about the Clintons and the Epstein business, banning Epstein from mar a lago long before he was ever charged with a crime.

[SpursforSix]

Night of the long knives? Surely the clinton pizza gate cabal won't get off so easily, along with all the other traitors in our establishment. Trump strikes me as extremely vengeful and has made numerous references to 9/11 and going so far to say he wants to investigate it, which may explain his hatred for the bush family. He also knows about the Clintons and the Epstein business, banning Epstein from mar a lago long before he was ever charged with a crime.

They'll shut down the internet before pizzagate gets fully exposed. If it's true.

[pgardn]

The mid afternoon tickling with feathers comes a fortnight and a dead chicken before night of the long knives.

[DisAsTerBot]

Lol not m>s

[Winehole23]

Trump isn't purging the right wing and establishment Republicans, he's too busy appointing them to his own administration.

[Winehole23]

Prime target of Operation Hummingbird: the SA.

Would have thought the original poster would be be pro-Brownshirts, but go figure.

[Winehole23]

Maybe he meant Kristallnacht.

[DMC]

Trump is going to fill the cabinet with workers (I think) and surround himself with people far more capable than him of making rational decisions regarding world policy, and he's going to cruise through 4 years. I don't see him shaking things up too much, maybe just a little.

[boutons_deux]

Trump is going to fill the cabinet with workers (I think) and surround himself with people far more capable than him of making rational decisions regarding world policy, and he's going to cruise through 4 years. I don't see him shaking things up too much, maybe just a little.

:lol you stupid fuck, NOTHING good for the 95% will come from Trash's WH, esp when he signs all the crap coming from the Repug Congress.

[rmt]

:lol you stupid fuck, NOTHING good for the 95% will come from Trash's WH, esp when he signs all the crap coming from the Repug Congress.

So what say you about these Carrier jobs - is that not a good thing?

[Th'Pusher]

So what say you about these Carrier jobs - is that not a good thing?
Depend on the terms of the deal. How many of your tax dollars are you willing to give away to keep those jobs in Indianapolis?

[TeyshaBlue]

How many tax dollars are we willing to spend when those jobs are gone?

Horse apiece?

[rmt]

Depend on the terms of the deal. How many of your tax dollars are you willing to give away to keep those jobs in Indianapolis?

What are those jobs worth going way into the future - not counting the emotional satisfaction/health that comes from providing for one's self and family - cost for ACA/Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment benefits, possible loss of tax revenue (property, sales, income), etc? Or it's possible that the deal is partly from the state of Indiana (Pence). Or maybe it's a deal with Carrier's parent company which deals with defense contracts - both of which would limit involvement of my tax dollars.

[DMC]

:lol you stupid fuck, NOTHING good for the 95% will come from Trash's WH, esp when he signs all the crap coming from the Repug Congress.

Embrace the suck...

[Winehole23]

What are those jobs worth going way into the future - not counting the emotional satisfaction/health that comes from providing for one's self and family - cost for ACA/Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment benefits, possible loss of tax revenue (property, sales, income), etc? Or it's possible that the deal is partly from the state of Indiana (Pence). Or maybe it's a deal with Carrier's parent company which deals with defense contracts - both of which would limit involvement of my tax dollars.so much for the government not picking winners and losers in the marketplace

[rmt]

so much for the government not picking winners and losers in the marketplace

What, you mean like Obamacare? As far as we know now, the losers seem to be the Mexicans who would have had those jobs.

[Winehole23]

I never supported Obamacare, btw.

I don't think the USG (or the USG in waiting) should dictate business plans either, regardless of who benefits.

[rmt]

I never supported Obamacare, btw.

I don't think the USG (or the USG in waiting) should dictate business plans either, regardless of who benefits.

Hasn't the USG been affecting that with their trade deals and/or tax codes?

[ElNono]

I never supported Obamacare, btw.

I don't think the USG (or the USG in waiting) should dictate business plans either, regardless of who benefits.

Protectionism is the new free market... just don't call it socialism...

[Th'Pusher]

How many tax dollars are we willing to spend when those jobs are gone?

Horse apiece?

Seems it would be prudent to quantify both costs and make and informed decision based on the actual data.

Again, we need to know the terms of the deal.

This carrier deal seems a PR stunt to me tbh.

[clambake]

i would guess a thousand families would disagree.

[boutons_deux]

i would guess a thousand families would disagree.

It's a PR stunt, has nothing to do with 1000 jobs, about which Trash doesn't GAF.

Let's see how many jobs Trash "brings back" in the next 4 years.

(probably) spending taxpayer (probably blue state) $Ms to save redstate jobs that hadn't "left" yet is much easier than repatriating "gone" jobs.


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“The move is intended to address the challenges we continue to face in a rapidly changing HVAC industry, with the continued migration of the HVAC industry to Mexico, including our suppliers and competitors, and ongoing cost and pricing pressures driven, in part, by new regulatory requirements.”

Earlier this month, another Indianapolis company, Rexnord Bearings, announced they were also pulling business out of the state and moving hundreds of jobs to Mexico (http://fox59.com/2016/11/14/rexnord-officially-decides-to-move-375-jobs-to-mexico-says-union-president/).

According to United Steel Workers Union President Chuck Jones, the manufacturing company cited the wage difference as the reason they are moving.

In Indianapolis, workers were making $25 per hour, plus benefits.

The workers in Mexico will be making $2.50-$3 per hour, plus benefits.

The move is tentatively set to begin in April and be done by June 2017."

http://fox59.com/2016/11/24/will-carrier-stay-in-indianapolis-donald-trump-tweets-hes-working-on-a-plan-making-progress/

All y'all's venerated BigCorp and its capitalists pushed globalization in the 70s, 80s, to pit US workers against foreign workers, knowing that US workers would always lose out and the capitalists would make out.

[rmt]

It's a PR stunt, has nothing to do with 1000 jobs, about which Trash doesn't GAF.

Let's see how many jobs Trash "brings back" in the next 4 years.

(probably) spending taxpayer (probably blue state) $Ms to save redstate jobs that hadn't "left" yet is much easier than repatriating "gone" jobs.


===========

“The move is intended to address the challenges we continue to face in a rapidly changing HVAC industry, with the continued migration of the HVAC industry to Mexico, including our suppliers and competitors, and ongoing cost and pricing pressures driven, in part, by new regulatory requirements.”

Earlier this month, another Indianapolis company, Rexnord Bearings, announced they were also pulling business out of the state and moving hundreds of jobs to Mexico (http://fox59.com/2016/11/14/rexnord-officially-decides-to-move-375-jobs-to-mexico-says-union-president/).

According to United Steel Workers Union President Chuck Jones, the manufacturing company cited the wage difference as the reason they are moving.

In Indianapolis, workers were making $25 per hour, plus benefits.

The workers in Mexico will be making $2.50-$3 per hour, plus benefits.

The move is tentatively set to begin in April and be done by June 2017."

http://fox59.com/2016/11/24/will-carrier-stay-in-indianapolis-donald-trump-tweets-hes-working-on-a-plan-making-progress/

All y'all's venerated BigCorp and its capitalists pushed globalization in the 70s, 80s, to pit US workers against foreign workers, knowing that US workers would always lose out and the capitalists would make out.



In all likelihood (in this case), it's a red state (Indiana) that's involved - not any blue state.

And wasn't it Clinton who signed NAFTA?

Man, some just have to find something to complain about. Can't we just be happy for these 1000 people (with what we know now)?

[clambake]

well, boo, if its a pr stunt......i hope he pulls off a lot more.

you can call it whatever you want.

[Nbadan]

This could get good tbh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSSwXvsEX_c

[Nbadan]

Tweet...

[Nbadan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeG1BT8rP4

[TeyshaBlue]

Seems it would be prudent to quantify both costs and make and informed decision based on the actual data.

Again, we need to know the terms of the deal.

This carrier deal seems a PR stunt to me tbh.

Agreed. Terms would be nice.

[Winehole23]

Tax subsidies and attaching conditions to Federal contracting are legit. Whether it's affordable writ large is another thing. It certainly doesn't comport with traditional notions of free-market enterprise, but maybe that isn't so important to Republicans now that they have the power.

Whether it's proper for the President to single out companies who don't bow to his policy preferences is of arguable propriety. Not hard to imagine what Trumpistas and titans of business would call Obama if he did the same.

[Winehole23]

In due time, the titans of business will have something to say about this. Using the power of the presidency to boss them around is bound to ruffle a few feathers

[Winehole23]

Hasn't the USG been affecting that with their trade deals and/or tax codes?Tax code and duly enacted treaty law are different than the President singling out companies and using the prestige of his office to get them to knuckle under

[Nbadan]

In due time, the titans of business will have something to say about this. Using the power of the presidency to boss them around is bound to ruffle a few feathers

:bobo

[Winehole23]

And if you do what the president wants, you can put ykur logo all over his press op. Trump just did an ad for Carrier.

[DMC]

And if you do what the president wants, you can put ykur logo all over his press op. Trump just did an ad for Carrier.

Better than becoming a lawyer for Trayvon.

[Winehole23]

that backfired just like this will.

[Axl Rose]

Clintons, podesta, and many DC insiders going down for pedophilia, just watch

[DMC]

that backfired just like this will.

More predictions.

[Winehole23]

as a one off, it's a Potemkin Village, not a policy.

as a policy, it's totally unsustainable.

[boutons_deux]

as a one off, it's a Potemkin Village, not a policy.

as a policy, it's totally unsustainable.

Trash's supporters are so easily conned, so ignorant of the Don The Con's games. :lol

Rexnord up next. More fodder for his "I'm The Greatest" victory tour? "All y'all clap and holler real loud, I'm The Best"