An appreciation for the passing of LeBron James

[Killakobe81]

No way I can pay more love and respect than the biggest Lebron dick riders ... (you know who they are) but one thing I give this nigga credit for is his passing. Yes he has great vision just a notch below Magic, Bird, Kidd, Stockton etc. ...but it's not much. But what LeBron has that even Magic did not, is the strength and ability to break all the fundamental traditional laws of passing: Dont leave your feet, dont throw cross court while floating the opposite way ...and he does it while delivering the ball with pin-point accuracy and touch when needed. This nigga is talking about delivering balls with the SEAMS the way his team-mates like it.
He really is Magic 2.0 maybe even 2.5 ...This article talks about what I have been saying for years. His passing is amazing watch him elevate hang then throw a perfect pass in to the shooting pocket of Kyrie, Love etc. Amazing. As a coach it goes against everything I used to teach but as fan it's beautiful.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18159427/why-lebron-james-cooking-more-dishes

"LeBron breaks all the passing rules," said one scout who recently tracked the Cavs. "You're not supposed to leave your feet and pass, and he uses it as a weapon. You're not supposed to pass through traffic. He throws backhanded fastballs that buzz the ears of two defenders. He always knows where everyone is going to be."

James has to be careful with what he says publicly, because it often can be used against him. Those who know him will tell you he believes this style is the way to win a most valuable player award. Whether James will ever win another one is hard to project; he often has to compete with his past résumés.

He is just to damn good ...

[StrengthAndHonor]

I think Lebron has a better court vision than Magic, Bird and Stockton. He's right there with prime Jason Kidd who has been vastly underrated in his career.

[Killakobe81]

I think Lebron has a better court vision than Magic, Bird and Stockton. He's right there with prime Jason Kidd who has been vastly underrated in his career.

I disagree. Bird and Magic and the others had this extra level of anticipation I do see it from James but theirs was better. James physical gifts gives him access to lanes and alleys they could not dream of ...so their vision almost had to be better because neither guy could pull off the passing that James can.

So if you are saying that James is able to see more of the court I would agree ....but when I speak of vision Im combining anticipation and I think those guys did it a bit better but James is close. And like i said he can do things as passer that maybe only Prime Kidd was close to doing ...prime Kidd was never a Lebron level athlete but he was better than even very young Magic and definitely Bird.

[lefty]

Bird and LeBron have better court vision and passing than Magic tbh

[StrengthAndHonor]

I disagree. Bird and Magic and the others had this extra level of anticipation I do see it from James but theirs was better. James physical gifts gives him access to lanes and alleys they could not dream of ...so their vision almost had to be better because neither guy could pull off the passing that James can.

So if you are saying that James is able to see more of the court I would agree ....but when I speak of vision Im combining anticipation and I think those guys did it a bit better but James is close. And like i said he can do things as passer that maybe only Prime Kidd was close to doing ...prime Kidd was never a Lebron level athlete but he was better than even very young Magic and definitely Bird.


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The coaches knowledge has also proliferated, their methods and strategies have evolved. Think of that and you'll be amazed at how Lebron is dominating the passing game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bird and LeBron have better court vision and passing than Magic tbh

Is Magic's vision overrated, tbh?

[UZER]

Don't be a jerk.

RIP LeBron.

[lefty]

Is Magic's vision overrated, tbh?
Yes

[Kawhitstorm]

Is Magic's vision overrated, tbh?

-Magic is the best open court PG b/c he can put a bounce pass on the money to a streaking player from anywhere on the court but LeBron is better in halfcourt sets b/c of the velocity he throws the ball which allows him to beat defensive rotations.

-Nash is the best at executing the PnR b/c he was more of a threat to score than Stockton who didn't really attack on switches.

-Isiah is the best at making something out of nothing b/c he had the ball on a string.

[Killakobe81]

Is Magic's vision overrated, tbh?

Just stop, Harlem.

[HarlemHeat37]

Just stop, Harlem.

Just asking for an opinion from somebody that watched it live, tbh..I wasn't even born yet when Magic was at his peak..

Lefty is like 48 years old, he saw it first hand, I was looking for his opinion..

[Killakobe81]

Just asking for an opinion from somebody that watched it live, tbh..I wasn't even born yet when Magic was at his peak..

Lefty is like 48 years old, he saw it first hand, I was looking for his opinion..

Im not that old and I am obviously biased but the fact that we are having this discussion is a credit to both ...
Like I said, LeBron's ability to make passes not even Magic could is largely because of his athleticism and high hoops IQ.
Both are smart but Magic and especially Bird just cannot perform the types of passes talked about in the article.
Because of that it required them to think two steps ahead because they lacked the explosiveness James had.
For example MJ was very smart a basketball savant but he did not have to anticipate to blow by guys because he was quicker and jumped higher than everyone.
The thing that was great about Bird/Magic/Stockton they were slower than the guys they played against but looked fast because they were so smart ....

I have no issue if someone thinks Lebron is a greater passer than Bird/Magic just like Choosing Tom brady over Montana or Elway ...I just disagree from a passing perspective and I saw all 3 play ....

Anyways this thread was about your boy Lebron not magic.

[Killakobe81]

Oh and even in a positive article about James windhorst throws some salt basically saying he gunning for MVP ...

[lefty]

Gfy Harlem :lol

You were Jesse Jackson's classmate tbh :lol

[whitemamba]

Westbrook just passed LeSidekick for 6th all time in triple double, o yeah he did it like 300 or something games quicker. You got to give him props for last years finals performance tbh, that was legend.

[baseline bum]

Magic's the best passer I have ever seen. It seemed like at least once a game I'd see him fire a beisbol pass through traffic to get a teammate an uncontested layup.

[lefty]

Stock and Bird were far better passers tbh

[ambchang]

As a pure passer, it would be either Bird or Magic. Stockton was a little overrated as a passer, he is technically sound, but probably due to his size, he just couldn't see the floor as well as Bird or Magic.

[Clipper Nation]

Is Magic's vision overrated, tbh?
Magic's vision sucked. He couldn't see the risk of getting AIDS from banging other guys unprotected.

[lefty]

Put a solid, taller Rodman on Magic and all he can see is cocks

[mavsfan1000]

lol I read the title differently.

[UZER]

:lol so did I


Don't be a jerk.

RIP LeBron.

[Killakobe81]

lol I read the title differently.

It was a deliberate play on words ...
But my respect for his passing was genuine...

[Killakobe81]

Can a real case be made for Bird over LeBron at this point? Magic someone could still argue rings but with Bird you cannot. I think he is still the slightly better passer and vastly better shooter but James is better at everything else ...

[140]

Larrys skin color is better tbh

[lefty]

Larrys skin color is better tbh

Meister race imo

[hater]

Magic's the best passer I have ever seen. It seemed like at least once a game I'd see him fire a beisbol pass through traffic to get a teammate an uncontested layup.

Never seen Prime Nash play??

[hater]

Larrys skin color is better tbh

Dude looks like a very worn catchers mitt imo

No thanks

[baseline bum]

Never seen Prime Nash play??

Yeah, I remember watching Parker shit all over him for years.

[Seventyniner]

Can a real case be made for Bird over LeBron at this point? Magic someone could still argue rings but with Bird you cannot. I think he is still the slightly better passer and vastly better shooter but James is better at everything else ...

In my eyes LeBron passed Bird with this last title. It was a tossup before that.

As for LeBron's court vision, I think it gets slightly overrated because LeBron is such a great offensive player that he has the attention of multiple defenders at all times. Kidd/Nash/Stockton had to be that good at passing because they weren't going to get double and triple teamed.

The homer in me thinks that Ginobili has better court vision than LeBron though of course LeBron is better at basically everything else.

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, I remember watching Parker shit all over him for years.

Great passers too not as good as these guys

[apalisoc_9]

Dude looks like a very worn catchers mitt imo

No thanks

:lmao

[hater]

Yeah, I remember watching Parker shit all over him for years.

Was referring to you saying Magic making such pass every night.

Nash did 3 of 4 of those per nite

[lefty]

Bird shits on Lebron tbh

[hater]

Bird wouldnt have lasted a week in todays nba tbh. The speed and the softness of it makes Bird a scrub.

Bird would be doing dishes in the chinese league

[DMC]

OP is a faggot

[140]

He's not that bad tbh

[Killakobe81]

In my eyes LeBron passed Bird with this last title. It was a tossup before that.

As for LeBron's court vision, I think it gets slightly overrated because LeBron is such a great offensive player that he has the attention of multiple defenders at all times. Kidd/Nash/Stockton had to be that good at passing because they weren't going to get double and triple teamed.

The homer in me thinks that Ginobili has better court vision than LeBron though of course LeBron is better at basically everything else.

I can't argue with much of that gino does have great vision but I think Bron has better

[baseline bum]

Was referring to you saying Magic making such pass every night.

Nash did 3 of 4 of those per nite

No he didn't :lol

Magic is the only player who consistently made those passes.

[DMC]

Thread title made me think Lebron died.