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AFBlue
12-02-2016, 08:40 PM
Question: Just how big of a deal do you think this Taiwan phone call is? Personally I think a congratulatory phone call isn't a big deal, but I could be pursuaded otherwise. We headed for WWIII?

DMC
12-02-2016, 08:52 PM
Probably a scammer called him. Wonder if they said they worked for Microsoft Windows.

Axl Rose
12-02-2016, 09:33 PM
If China will go to war over a phone call then we were already headed for trouble

Th'Pusher
12-02-2016, 09:38 PM
Just another gaff. Get used to it. There will be many more.

America voted the rich version of white trash as its president.

monosylab1k
12-02-2016, 09:52 PM
The fact that accepting a phone call from Taiwan is considered some huge mistake really shows the problems with the establishment, not Trump. It's fucking stupid this is even an issue at all.

hater
12-02-2016, 09:53 PM
Historic mistake tbh :lmao

He just prooved hes an idiot. Russia Iran and China are probably exstatic high fiving and laughing they ass off :lmao

DMC
12-02-2016, 10:15 PM
Funny how other countries tout their customs and protocol but ignore the fuck out of ours when they visit here.

in2deep
12-02-2016, 10:18 PM
The fact that accepting a phone call from Taiwan is considered some huge mistake really shows the problems with the establishment, not Trump. It's fucking stupid this is even an issue at all.

actually it was a mutually agrred call:
Trump reportedly agreed to the call, which was arranged by his Taiwan-friendly campaign staff after his aides briefed him on issues regarding Taiwan and the situation in the Taiwan Strait, sources said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2016/12/03/2003660473

DMC
12-02-2016, 10:19 PM
This is how Trump sets the stage for dealing with China on a business front: "I don't give a fuck, I'll go elsewhere"

IceColdBrewski
12-02-2016, 10:20 PM
Yes, I couldn't help but notice all the libs pissing in their pants and angry at Trump on twitter for taking a phone call. Apparently we're supposed to let China dictate who our Pres should and shouldn't talk to. Sheesh, the Democrat party is truly the party of liberal pussies now. Fuck China and their feelings. They'll get over it.

boutons_deux
12-02-2016, 10:21 PM
Trash and his fucking ignorant staff violated a US policy in force since 1979.

hater
12-02-2016, 10:25 PM
Yes, I couldn't help but notice all the libs pissing in their pants and angry at Trump on twitter for taking a phone call. Apparently we're supposed to let China dictate who our Pres should and shouldn't talk to. Sheesh, the Democrat party is truly the party of liberal pussies now. Fuck China and their feelings. They'll get over it.

Except Trump will not speak to Taiwan again. Thus proving you wrong.

hater
12-02-2016, 10:26 PM
Shit my bad. Meant to quote DMC

DMC
12-02-2016, 10:27 PM
Yes, I couldn't help but notice all the libs pissing in their pants and angry at Trump on twitter for taking a phone call. Apparently we're supposed to let China dictate who our Pres should and shouldn't talk to. Sheesh, the Democrat party is truly the party of liberal pussies now. Fuck China and their feelings. They'll get over it.

As long as old Henry keeps smoothing it over.. won't be a problem.

DMC
12-02-2016, 10:28 PM
Shit my bad. Meant to quote DMC

Thus proving you wrong.. lol

hater
12-02-2016, 10:30 PM
Thus proving you wrong.. lol

My point stands. Trump will "apologize" the way he usually does by denying and deflecting.

Then he will proceed to never talk to Taiwan again :lol

DMC
12-02-2016, 10:32 PM
My point stands. Trump will "apologize" the way he usually does by denying and deflecting.

Then he will proceed to never talk to Taiwan again :lol

Again, prognostication isn't proof of anything.

AFBlue
12-02-2016, 11:26 PM
Trash and his fucking ignorant staff violated a US policy in force since 1979.

And?

AFBlue
12-02-2016, 11:28 PM
This is how Trump sets the stage for dealing with China on a business front: "I don't give a fuck, I'll go elsewhere"

I feel like he set the stage by calling them "Gyna" tbqh.

AFBlue
12-02-2016, 11:32 PM
This is how Trump sets the stage for dealing with China on a business front: "I don't give a fuck, I'll go elsewhere"

Might have also set the stage by continually referencing the $500B trade deficit with them and talking tough about reversing that trend through what some have suggested would be a trade war.

But yeah, let's flip out over a congratulatory phone call. :lmao media

Trill Clinton
12-02-2016, 11:47 PM
taiwan was like, i bet he doesn't know he's not supposed to talk to us directly. watch thishttp://i67.tinypic.com/sb54zo.jpg

Axl Rose
12-02-2016, 11:52 PM
Just another gaff. Get used to it. There will be many more.

America voted the rich version of white trash as its president.
Fuck off n!gger were tired of hearing your shit, it doesn't take a special talent to spout off slurs

Axl Rose
12-02-2016, 11:54 PM
taiwan was like, i bet he doesn't know he's not supposed to talk to us directly. watch thishttp://i67.tinypic.com/sb54zo.jpgthats the problem, being chinas bitch to where they control what we do and whom we speak to. Trump
aint nobodies punk and that's a good thing. What's china doing to do, steal our jobs and rip us off on trade? Steal technology? They already do all of this

hater
12-03-2016, 12:31 AM
thats the problem, being chinas bitch to where they control what we do and whom we speak to. Trump
aint nobodies punk and that's a good thing. What's china doing to do, steal our jobs and rip us off on trade? Steal technology? They already do all of this

Well China will join into the game and do something inflamatory against US interests.

Like striking a military deal with Phillipinnes

boutons_deux
12-03-2016, 12:38 AM
thats the problem, being chinas bitch to where they control what we do and whom we speak to. Trump
aint nobodies punk and that's a good thing. What's china doing to do, steal our jobs and rip us off on trade? Steal technology? They already do all of this

USA BigCorp has placed its balls in China's hands. And China is a major holder of US Treasuries (USA is heavily indebted to China).

Trash pissing off China (I have no doubt he has no idea of WTF he's doing) could really hurt BigCorp and its $100Bs invested in China.

I'm sure China knows its dealing with a stupid, ignorant, simplistic asshole (elected by You People of the same defects) with an attention span, reflections that don't look beyond his own self-interest.

Axl Rose
12-03-2016, 12:58 AM
Well China will join into the game and do something inflamatory against US interests.

Like striking a military deal with Phillipinnes
Philippines don't want that if we'd just treat them with a little respect, china is a historic rival of theirs

not to mention none of China's neighbors like china and all are our allies who would like to see the bully humbled

RD2191
12-03-2016, 09:50 AM
taiwan was like, i bet he doesn't know he's not supposed to talk to us directly. watch thishttp://i67.tinypic.com/sb54zo.jpg

:lmao

benefactor
12-03-2016, 09:59 AM
taiwan was like, i bet he doesn't know he's not supposed to talk to us directly. watch thishttp://i67.tinypic.com/sb54zo.jpg
:lol

Th'Pusher
12-03-2016, 10:11 AM
Fuck off n!gger were tired of hearing your shit, it doesn't take a special talent to spout off slurs

Did you ever get your foreskin reinstalled?

IceColdBrewski
12-03-2016, 10:41 AM
The way the left is crying about this, you'd think Trump had just given $150B to Iran or something...

Spurminator
12-03-2016, 10:47 AM
The fact that accepting a phone call from Taiwan is considered some huge mistake really shows the problems with the establishment, not Trump. It's fucking stupid this is even an issue at all.

Yep.

Partisan bickering over symbolic diplomatic gestures is a staple. LOL at conservatives acting like America hasn't just experienced 8 years of this, though.

boutons_deux
12-03-2016, 10:50 AM
The way the left is crying about this, you'd think Trump had just given $150B to Iran or something...

Trash has exposed himself so soon as being completely ignorant of 40 years of US policy, but certainly well informed of Trash's business objectives in Taiwan.

First he LIED that Taiwan called him just to say "congrats", then it comes out that the call was arranged, agreed to by Taiwan and Trash's staff.

It's obviously Taiwan testing, tricking Trash into tweaking China's nose.

My guess is that Trash's business objectives in Taiwan will now have no trouble getting permits, authorization, whatever.

Spurminator
12-03-2016, 10:53 AM
First he LIED that Taiwan called him just to say "congrats", then it comes out that the call was arranged, agreed to by Taiwan and Trash's staff.

So what if the call was arranged by staffs? At my job it's not unusual to coordinate executive schedules for routine phone calls, and these are people getting promoted to VP type positions, not President of the United States.

Aren't there plenty of other things to bitch about?

boutons_deux
12-03-2016, 11:10 AM
So what if the call was arranged by staffs? At my job it's not unusual to coordinate executive schedules for routine phone calls, and these are people getting promoted to VP type positions, not President of the United States.

Aren't there plenty of other things to bitch about?

bitching? nope, just laughing at all you rightwingnutjob Trash fellators.

Let's see if PRC penalizes US companies investments in China. I'm sure they have 100s of ways to choose from.

Then I bet the US business establishment will tell Trash to STFU about China.

Spurminator
12-03-2016, 11:18 AM
K

boutons_deux
12-04-2016, 07:13 AM
White House reaffirms ‘One China’ policy after Trump calls Taiwan leader

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/white-house-reaffirms-one-china-policy-after-trump-calls-taiwan-leader/story-1a1hM6cNGiN2v8m3maOlYL.html

:lol If Trash's ignorance and faux pas aren't fatal, they will at least be HEE FUCKIN LARIOUS! :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ls18ftY2A

UZER
12-04-2016, 08:59 AM
Man, what would the reaction have been of he bowed to the Prime Minister of Japan?

DMC
12-04-2016, 01:22 PM
Or FLeOTUS hugging the queen.

boutons_deux
12-04-2016, 01:30 PM
This is how Trump sets the stage for dealing with China on a business front: "I don't give a fuck, I'll go elsewhere"

goddam, you're stupid

USA BigCorp has $10Bs invested in China

playing to your connable stupidity, don the con siad he'd impose 35% tariff

DMC
12-04-2016, 01:35 PM
goddam, you're stupid

USA BigCorp has $10Bs invested in China

playing to your stupidiry, don the con siad he'd impose 35% tariff

Bigblah fucked Bigwahwah repugs stupid up your ass piece of shit

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-04-2016, 02:45 PM
By now you know that President Elect Trump took a call from the President of Taiwan and simultaneously lit on fire the underpants of the mainstream media and maybe the leadership of China too.

Apparently taking a phone call from the president of Taiwan is a major diplomatic change from the so-called “One China Policy” that imagines Taiwan as a rogue province of China, not its own country. Reports are saying this call was planned, not a mistake on the Trump team’s side.

Was this a mistake by Trump?

If you look at this call through the filter of normal politics it is clearly a mistake. It provokes the Chinese leadership and gains nothing obvious in return. The media is reporting this event as exactly the sort of thing that leads to nuclear annihilation. This is the same mainstream media that got everything wrong about Trump for the past year.

But if you look at this situation through the filter of a Master Persuader, it makes perfect sense. Trump is “setting the table” for future negotiations with China. He just subtracted something from China’s brand that they value, and later he will negotiate with them to maybe give it back in some fashion. Probably in return for some trade concessions.

But what about the risk? Does it ever make sense to poke a nuclear power? In this case, probably yes. As I have said in this blog before, China’s leadership is both mature and competent. Many of them have engineering degrees. They understand what Trump is doing, and none of it is a path to war because neither side has any interest in war. None. Zero.

I can imagine some scenarios in which China and the U.S. might dangerously escalate toward war, but one friendly call to a major trading partner isn’t one of the scenarios.

But why take that call now? Shouldn’t Trump have cleared this with Obama, or waited until he was President?

No. Because the Obama administration would have advised him not to do it. And waiting until January is the way old politics is done. This sort of bold, rapid action is evidently what Trump wants you to think is his brand as president. The Taiwan call is consistent with the New CEO Play that I described in this post. He’s setting the tone as bold, effective, and not waiting for red tape to slow him down.

Don’t worry about China going to war over a phone call. They understand Trump, in part because they read my blog too. And look at the brilliance of China’s diplomatic response. Their Foreign Minister labelled the phone call, "a shenanigan by the Taiwan side.“ That is exquisite diplomatic framing, Master Persuader-style. You can see why China and Trump respect each other; they both earned it.

Mutual respect is a safe place to be. Relax. Adults are in charge.

pgardn
12-04-2016, 02:55 PM
Funny how other countries tout their customs and protocol but ignore the fuck out of ours when they visit here.

Thats what you do when you have fewer bargaining chips.

And who the hell cares in the long run? Does it hurt egos like hater who sees victory in a dis? The big dog is not bothered by flies not following protocol.

pgardn
12-04-2016, 02:58 PM
goddam, you're stupid

USA BigCorp has $10Bs invested in China

playing to your connable stupidity, don the con siad he'd impose 35% tariff


I would not argue with Trump's unique methods in negotiations yet. China stands to lose a whole lot more in an economic game of chicken.

boutons_deux
12-04-2016, 07:51 PM
goddam, Don The Con is one sick mofo

Trump launches Sunday Twitter tirade against China, this is NOT going to end well (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/4/1607243/-China-launches-Sunday-Twitter-tirade-against-China-this-is-NOT-going-to-end-well)

Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into..
4:23 PM - 4 Dec 2016 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/805538149157969924)


Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

their country (the U.S. doesn't tax them) or to build a massive military complex in the middle of the South China Sea? I don't think so!
4:30 PM - 4 Dec 2016 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/805539770864693253)

The is a small downtick of Chinese holdings in the U.S. debt, but they are still the largest foreign holder: (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-16/china-s-holdings-of-treasuries-fall-to-lowest-level-since-2013)

The biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt had $1.22 trillion in bonds, notes and bills in July, down $22 billion from the prior month, in the biggest drop since 2013, according to U.S. Treasury Department data released Friday in Washington and previous figures compiled by Bloomberg.

The portfolio of Japan, the largest holder after China, rose $6.9 billion to $1.15 trillion.

Saudi Arabia’s holdings of Treasuries declined for a sixth straight month, to $96.5 billion.


In short, China could wreak havoc if they called in our debt. Russia is a key trade partner with China. Who will the Russians stand with?

And bashing on China’s controversial South China Sea bases? On Twitter?

Donald Trump is pushing into uncharted and very dangerous waters with his Twitter account…..

and he hasn’t even taken the oath of office yet.

He may do more than wreck the U.S. economy.

He may drag us into full-scale military confrontation.

Former President Obama advisor Dan Pfeiffer put it best:


Follow (https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/573096048744218625/nCJ9BAx6_bigger.jpegDan Pfeiffer (https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer)
(https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer)✔@danpfeiffer (https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer)

To call this is a diplomatic strategy would be like calling a monkey throwing its feces against the wall artistic expression

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/805538149157969924 … (https://t.co/t9LPG3me2j)
5:02 PM - 4 Dec 2016 (https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/805547958607355904)


We are so screwed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/04/1607243/-China-launches-Sunday-Twitter-tirade-against-China-this-is-NOT-going-to-end-well?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29d✔ (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Clipper Nation
12-04-2016, 08:50 PM
The fact that accepting a phone call from Taiwan is considered some huge mistake really shows the problems with the establishment, not Trump. It's fucking stupid this is even an issue at all.
The U.S. sells weapons to Taiwan all the time, but God forbid Trump picks up the phone when they call him!

Nbadan
12-05-2016, 02:26 AM
hmmmm....


Donald Trump’s protocol-breaking telephone call with Taiwan’s leader was an intentionally provocative move that establishes the incoming president as a break with the past, according to interviews with people involved in the planning.

The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for engagement with Taiwan that began even before he became the Republican presidential nominee, according to people involved in or briefed on the talks.

The call also reflects the views of hard-line advisers urging Trump to take a tough opening line with China, said others familiar with the months of discussion about Taiwan and China.

Trump and his advisers have sought to publicly portray the call the president-elect took from Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen *on Friday as a routine congratulatory call. Trump noted on Twitter that she placed the call.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-taiwan-phone-call-was-weeks-in-the-planning-say-people-who-were-involved/2016/12/04/f8be4b0c-ba4e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 05:29 AM
"a new strategy for engagement with Taiwan"

"a tough opening line with China"

what's the objective for these neocons? a nobody-wins nuclear war with China and NK?

WTF are they doing?

hater
12-05-2016, 04:42 PM
:lmao China just joined Russia to veto Aleppo cease fire

hater
12-05-2016, 04:49 PM
:lol they are also sending more military to their islands in the pacific, lifting North Korean sanctions and will point 1000 more missiles at Taiwan

Thanks Trump :lmao

DMC
12-05-2016, 05:14 PM
:lol they are also sending more military to their islands in the pacific, lifting North Korean sanctions and will point 1000 more missiles at Taiwan

Thanks Trump :lmao

Because having more guns pointed at you is more dangerous. Any of those missiles could accidentally discharge.

CosmicCowboy
12-05-2016, 05:19 PM
Does anyone really think China is gonna fuck up their trade deal selling us crap just because Trump took a call from Taiwan?

hater
12-05-2016, 05:26 PM
Because having more guns pointed at you is more dangerous. Any of those missiles could accidentally discharge.

Lol accidentally discharge

hater
12-05-2016, 05:28 PM
Does anyone really think China is gonna fuck up their trade deal selling us crap just because Trump took a call from Taiwan?

Does anyone really think US is gonna fuck up the economy of the country that holds billions of US debt notes?

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 06:27 PM
Does anyone really think China is gonna fuck up their trade deal selling us crap just because Trump took a call from Taiwan?

There are 100s of things China can do. How about dumping a big dose of their T bonds, how about taxing US factories in China? or nationalizing a few?

China sells plenty of their stuff to all countries, just not USA.

They're also grabbing lots a natural resources in Africa and the Americas.

China doesn't dance to USA's tune.

clambake
12-05-2016, 06:40 PM
china wants to bang that hot taiwan chick anytime they feel like it.


trying to tell trump to back off.

clambake
12-05-2016, 06:47 PM
its funny as hell. china getting cock blocked by the donald.

DMC
12-05-2016, 06:52 PM
I'm laying in my bed in my underwear bawling like a baby because humanity is so beautiful.

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 08:27 PM
why are the Repugs putting Trash up for this? what's the objective? Just neocon dick-measuring?

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 08:50 PM
...

DMC
12-05-2016, 10:10 PM
why are the Repugs putting Trash up for this? what's the objective? Just neocon dick-measuring?

BigCock taking on BigAsshole most likely, some Repug neocon fascism most likely.

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 10:19 PM
BigCock taking on BigAsshole most likely, some Repug neocon fascism most likely.

what's the objective?

and insane Maddog wants war with Iran.

These Repugs gonna fuck up the planet worse than the dubya/dickhead war criminals.

DMC
12-05-2016, 10:25 PM
what's the objective?

and insane Maddog wants war with Iran.

These Repugs gonna fuck up the planet worse than the dubya/dickhead war criminals.

BigCrack overcoming BigTits most likely.

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 10:50 PM
Top U.S. Marine's wish-list for Trump goes well beyond troop hikes

increase the number of Marine infantry battalions from 24 today to 36,

Russia-backed separatists that Ukraine is fighting

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-marines-idUSKBN13U2WN?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

How many $Ts and 100Ks of lives are the blood-thirsty assholes gonna waste?

boutons_deux
12-05-2016, 11:22 PM
Pentagon buries evidence of $125 billion in bureaucratic waste

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/pentagon-buries-evidence-of-125-billion-in-bureaucratic-waste/2016/12/05/e0668c76-9af6-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?utm_term=.c1c59a51b08a

... while these military assholes WHINE like little bitches about having their budgets capped. :lol

boutons_deux
12-06-2016, 01:32 PM
Sec. John Kerry says Donald Trump did not contact State Dept. before making calls to world leaders (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/5/1607427/-Sec-John-Kerry-says-Donald-Trump-did-not-contact-State-Dept-before-making-calls-to-world-leaders)

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/5/1607427/-Sec-John-Kerry-says-Donald-Trump-did-not-contact-State-Dept-before-making-calls-to-world-leaders?detail=email&link_id=2&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-turns-out-that-breitbart-article-the-house-science-committee-tweeted-out-is-a-con-job&email_referrer=turns-out-that-breitbart-article-the-house-science-committee-tweeted-out-is-a-con-job&email_subject=turns-out-that-breitbart-article-the-house-science-committee-tweeted-out-is-a-con-job

boutons_deux
12-06-2016, 01:36 PM
International Diplomacy, Trump-Style: ‘Screw ‘Em’

Taiwan is our ally.

That is a country that we have backed because they believe in freedom.

We oughta back our ally, and

if China doesn’t like it, screw ’em.

— Stephen Moore, an economic adviser to Donald Trump, defending the President-elect’s recent call with the president of Taiwan, saying in a local radio interview that he didn’t care if it upset China,” CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/politics/kfile-stephen-moore-taiwan-call/index.html) reports.


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2016/12/06/international-diplomacy-trump-style-screw-em/

Macho Man!

The many people who apparently planned for weeks to piss off China, what do they want USA to do to China?

I wonder if any US multinationals with $Bs invested in China have complained to Trash's accomplices about their investments looking precarious?

hater
12-06-2016, 01:51 PM
:lmao China putting Trump on blast :lmao

Shits getting real

Winehole23
02-18-2017, 12:40 AM
volte-face on "One China" policy rewarded?


The government of China awarded U.S. President Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm) valuable rights to his own name this week, in the form of a 10-year trademark for construction services.


The registration became official on Feb. 14 and was published in a trademark registration announcement on the website of China's Trademark Office on Wednesday.


This may well be the first foreign trademark to be handed to Trump during his presidency, but is unlikely to be the last. In China alone he has 49 pending trademark applications and 77 marks already registered in his own name, most of which will come up for renewal during his term.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-awards-trump-valuable-trademark-45504953

Winehole23
02-20-2017, 03:06 AM
cmon y'all, this is a fairly blatant reward for breaking China's way. this is why presidents divest and put shit in a blind trust.

no way you rock-ribbed conservatives would have let this slide with Obama. let alone the open-mouthed kissing with Russia.