View Full Version : Are we going to trade LaMarcus Aldridge or what?
Dude is soft and calling him 260# is being very nice.
He's not a winner, or a leader, and he's probably feeling butt hurt because that's just what he does.
He's a wannabe fat shooting guard who looks gassed every possession.
Leetonidas
12-03-2016, 11:03 AM
Great thread man, super original. 10/10 will recommend:tu
TheGreatYacht
12-03-2016, 11:03 AM
OP is a faggot
sananspursfan21
12-03-2016, 01:45 PM
Cool story bro
illusioNtEk
12-03-2016, 03:47 PM
atleast look thru the first page and see if theres a thread like this noob
LakerHater
12-03-2016, 03:48 PM
No.
Any other questions?
DJR210
12-03-2016, 03:49 PM
OP is obsessed with a butch dyke who would probably kick his ass
Sig pic looks like an ad for a cheesy 80's Halloween costume.
Mister Sinister
12-03-2016, 04:49 PM
OP prefers the company of heroin-addicted truckers with questionable hygiene practices tbh
Austin_Toros
12-03-2016, 05:13 PM
MaNu4Tres was sure that the Spurs were trying to trade LMA. I wonder if his "reliable" sources have any more info.
daledondale
12-03-2016, 05:28 PM
OP prefers the company of heroin-addicted truckers with questionable hygiene practices tbh
:wakeup
Silver&Black
12-03-2016, 05:40 PM
Gotdamn...haven't seen a rape like this since Spurs/Heat 2014.
spurtech09
12-03-2016, 07:21 PM
Nope....Time to move on :)
timtonymanu
12-03-2016, 08:23 PM
People can scoff the OP but I think trading Aldridge wouldn't be a bad idea. The Spurs aren't going to contend relying on two 40 year old guards (Parker plays like one) to go vintage in a series. If a guard was available, it's a no brainer to trade Aldridge. Especially cause he and Gasol are both redundant players.
DrunkTXLabrat
12-03-2016, 10:11 PM
lame's nickname is lame! dump him to the suns for Chriss, Chandler and anything else you can get. dump him anywhere for anything. He's the new RJ and the spurs will end up with the new Jackson and the new pick that could have been Ezeli or Draymond.
Spur|n|Austin
12-09-2016, 12:05 AM
I wonder what we could get for him..
Spurs9
12-09-2016, 12:07 AM
Sucker Vevek to trade Cousins for him
HarlemHeat37
12-09-2016, 12:18 AM
I've never been a fan(as everybody knows), but Aldridge would be a great #3 like Kevin Love, tbh..
Spurs are missing a great PG like prime TP..it's the missing piece that would make everybody else look better and fit more comfortably..
MaNu4Tres
12-09-2016, 12:24 AM
I've never been a fan(as everybody knows), but Aldridge, when he's in great shape, would be a great #3 like Kevin Love, tbh..
Spurs are missing a great PG like prime TP..it's the missing piece that would make everybody else look better and fit more comfortably..
FIFY. But I agree.
I'd be willing to trade Aldridge for an upgrade at PG and a role playing PF.. and I'd take a pick too.
apalisoc_9
12-09-2016, 12:28 AM
If Pau was never signed and we got A PG instead..
Damn.
I was expecting so much more from LMA this season. He was fantastic for the final half of the season last year and had some great moments (and poor) in the playoffs. He has completely regressed :(
TD 21
12-09-2016, 12:32 AM
If Pau was never signed and we got A PG instead..
Damn.
Many say this, but who? They didn't have the money for Conley or the assets for Hill and Teague and they weren't winning a championship with any of them running point either. Plus, they'd have been thinner inside.
There was no move they could have made to vault back into contention, the team just isn't good enough and needs to be re-built. With the assets they have, they could theoretically reload relatively quickly around Leonard.
Robz4000
12-09-2016, 12:34 AM
Many say this, but who? They didn't have the money for Conley or the assets for Hill and Teague and they weren't winning a championship with any of them running point either. Plus, they'd have been thinner inside.
There was no move they could have made to vault back into contention, the team just isn't good enough and needs to be re-built. With the assets they have, they could theoretically reload relatively quickly around Leonard.
He's not a true PG but Clarkson would've been a nice piece to add. Would've at least added a competent penetrator.
MaNu4Tres
12-09-2016, 12:35 AM
I was expecting so much more from LMA this season. He was fantastic for the final half of the season last year and had some great moments (and poor) in the playoffs. He has completely regressed :(
Thats what happens when you don't put in the work in the offseason.
If he was a winner, if he had heart or if he had a desire to be a champion he'd put in the work. He doesn't though, he never has and never will be a champion unless he coat tails someone elses' hard work.
TD 21
12-09-2016, 12:36 AM
He's not a true PG but Clarkson would've been a nice piece to add. Would've at least added a competent penetrator.
RFA and like almost all of them that teams are actually interested in retaining, wasn't attainable.
Even if he was, he wasn't vaulting them back into contention. Few players in the league could have and there was no way to acquire them.
If you just didn't want Gasol for whatever reason(s), like 'Tres, that's fine, but let's not pretend as if they missed out on something bigger and better.
Robz4000
12-09-2016, 12:40 AM
RFA and like almost all of them that teams are actually interested in retaining, wasn't attainable.
Even if he was, he wasn't vaulting them back into contention. Few players in the league could have and there was no way to acquire them.
If you just didn't want Gasol for whatever reason(s), like 'Tres, that's fine, but let's not pretend as if they missed out on something bigger and better.
They'd of had a better chance with Clarkson, and if they threw Gasol money at him they could've had him. Gasol is a net negative with the SL and isn't worth the $15mil he got to come off the bench for 20 mins a night.
apalisoc_9
12-09-2016, 12:45 AM
Thats what happens when you don't put in the work in the offseason.
If he was a winner, if he had heart or if he had a desire to be a champion he'd put in the work. He doesn't though, he never has and never will be a champion unless he coat tails someone elses' hard work.
In fairness to LA, his effort does varry depending on who he's playing with in the frontcourt. His effort defensively last two games was terrific with Dedmon playing a large sum of minutes with him. Mayne The Gasol signing is getting into his head.
TD 21
12-09-2016, 12:52 AM
They'd of had a better chance with Clarkson, and if they threw Gasol money at him they could've had him. Gasol is a net negative with the SL and isn't worth the $15mil he got to come off the bench for 20 mins a night.
No, they couldn't have. The Lakers weren't letting him go over $4M, the likes of which was relatively meaningless considering they're re-building (mean, it's not like it was going to cost them another player of value).
MaNu4Tres
12-09-2016, 12:55 AM
In fairness to LA, his effort does varry depending on who he's playing with in the frontcourt. His effort defensively last two games was terrific with Dedmon playing a large sum of minutes with him. Mayne The Gasol signing is getting into his head.
Don't give me in fairness to LA. Don't give me that crap.
He should be better than he is. He has all the tools that just need sharpening in the offseason, but he has failed to do so the last two offseasons because he doesn't have heart, doesn't have the work ethic and he's not a winner.
If he was a winner, he'd be putting in the work in the offseason instead of coming into training camp out of shape. Pop just called him out a week ago by saying he's still getting in shape. Pathetic for a supposed " leader".
Kawhitstorm
12-09-2016, 12:58 AM
He's not a true PG but Clarkson would've been a nice piece to add. Would've at least added a competent penetrator.
Clarkson is one of those guys who pounds the air out of the ball until he gets an open lane ala "Dribble-Dribble" Tony.:lol
Fournier would have been a nice replacement for Manu but he's now stuck in a shitty franchise.:bang
timtonymanu
12-09-2016, 12:59 AM
Don't give me in fairness to LA. Don't give me that crap.
He should be better than he is. He has all the tools that just need sharpening in the offseason, but he has failed to do so the last two offseasons because he doesn't have heart, doesn't have the work ethic and he's not a winner.
If he was a winner, he'd be putting in the work in the offseason instead of coming into training camp out of shape. Pop just called him out a week ago by saying he's still getting in shape. Pathetic for a supposed " leader".
This. He hasn't gotten close to a championship his whole career, much less a WCF. He doesn't have the accolades to coast in an NBA season or mail it in. Even Bobo "shaped up" for a 2014 run.
Robz4000
12-09-2016, 01:04 AM
No, they couldn't have. The Lakers weren't letting him go over $4M, the likes of which was relatively meaningless considering they're re-building (mean, it's not like it was going to cost them another player of value).
Should've at least made the effort regardless. The fact they went after a player that can't stay on the court even against the likes of the Bulls before even trying to solidify a position of need is appalling.
Robz4000
12-09-2016, 01:07 AM
Clarkson is one of those guys who pounds the air out of the ball until he gets an open lane ala "Dribble-Dribble" Tony.:lol
Fournier would have been a nice replacement for Manu but he's now stuck in a shitty franchise.:bang
MVParker was the same way but the offense still flowed well. As long as Clarkson provided a new element to the offense he'd of been worth it.
spursistan
12-09-2016, 01:11 AM
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HarlemHeat37
12-09-2016, 01:14 AM
^^:lol
Even if the Spurs wanted to trade Aldridge, there's no realistic move they could make that would net anywhere near equal value IMO..not to mention the question of whether they would trade for a PG that would send TP to the bench..I don't believe either is realistic, tbh..
The Spurs are going to wait until 2018 and start fresh at the PG position IMO..
Kawhitstorm
12-09-2016, 01:27 AM
MVParker was the same way but the offense still flowed well. As long as Clarkson provided a new element to the offense he'd of been worth it.
MVPorker attacked off the loop play & only really dribbled-dribbled when he was running a 2-man game w/ Timmay. Clarkson on the other hand dribbles until he has a lane *which sometime never appears* so he could get HIMSELF a bucket instead of dribble-drive & kick. That's the reason Lou has the ball on the 2nd unit & Clarkson only gets to handle it when they are trying to get him to attack.
Austin Rivers, Clarkson & Brandon Knight are cut from the same stone.:lol
Kawhitstorm
12-09-2016, 01:29 AM
Even if the Spurs wanted to trade Aldridge, there's no realistic move they could make that would net anywhere near equal value IMO.
I'm not sure how Millsap for Softridge isn't equal value at this point when you consider BOTH sides of the court.:wakeup
Millsap essentially does everything David Lee does well in addition to his range & elite defense. Pau would also be a lesser defensive liability when Danny/Kawhi/Millsap are on the floor since they are all great help defenders when they're locked-in.
apalisoc_9
12-09-2016, 01:35 AM
Honestly, Millsap has.looked so bad this year too...so thats a bug question mark. Unless, Atlanta is willing to help San Antonio like maybe Get Malcom Delaney for Kyle Anderso or any guard for that matter.
HarlemHeat37
12-09-2016, 01:35 AM
I'm not sure how Millsap for Softridge isn't equal value at this point when you consider BOTH sides of the court.:wakeup
Millsap essentially does everything David Lee does well in addition to his range & elite defense. Pau would also be a lesser defensive liability when Danny/Kawhi/Millsap are on the floor.
I agree, but I was thinking more of a PG package..
I don't see how acquiring Millsap(even though I'm a big fan of his) fixes the lack of a dynamic PG..
apalisoc_9
12-09-2016, 01:38 AM
Millsap-Malcom Delaney
For Kyle-Softridge-Lapro
Involve boston or some other team for another Guard.
Kawhitstorm
12-09-2016, 01:47 AM
Honestly, Millsap has.looked so bad this year too...so thats a bug question mark. Unless, Atlanta is willing to help San Antonio like maybe Get Malcom Delaney for Kyle Anderso or any guard for that matter.
He has been fine on defense & on offense it has to do w/ teams packing the paint when he's on the floor w/ Dwert/Schroder so he had no driving lanes which greatly affects him since he's a face-up guy. (Bazemore is shooting 29%:lmao)
If he played w/ Pau/Patty/Kawhi/Danny, he would have plenty of driving lanes. He would also get WIDE OPEN looks on spotups since defenders would have to rotate on Kawhi's drive from the perimeter as Pau's man can't camp in the paint like they do w/ Dwert. Also, Millsap absolutely destroys mismatches by taking them straight to the rim instead of shooting soft fadeaways.
RD2191
12-09-2016, 01:49 AM
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apalisoc_9
12-09-2016, 01:58 AM
:lmao you made me spit my coffee out
I was trying t remeber who the lady is from....
:lol
Now i get it
:lol
Kawhitstorm
12-09-2016, 02:10 AM
I agree, but I was thinking more of a PG package..
I don't see how acquiring Millsap(even though I'm a big fan of his) fixes the lack of a dynamic PG..
If you have a Millsap/Kawhi/Danny/Dedmon lineup, you can at least count on a stingy defense EVERY NIGHT while you can't count on Softridge's shot to show up. I would throw Patty in the lineup & play more uptempo like the 2nd unit while utilizing Millsap's ability to bring up the ball ala D-Lee. Basically, get stops or force turnovers then run. Danny/Patty would get a lot of those transition 3s they feasted on during the "Beautiful Game" era. The only thing Patty is also good at pressuring ball handlers so might as well make good use of it w/ Dedmon/Millsap covering his back.
If the other team goes small, Millsap can still play the 4 spot & allow Dedmon to stay on the floor since he can guard the Iggy's of the world. I would also post-up Millsap & run the offense through him ala Diaw. The TOSB Bench line-up would be painful to watch though:
Pau
Lee
Evita
Enirique
:lmao
...but Simmons/Bertans in transition::wow
cd021
12-09-2016, 05:06 AM
If you have a Millsap/Kawhi/Danny/Dedmon lineup, you can at least count on a stingy defense EVERY NIGHT while you can't count on Softridge's shot to show up. I would throw Patty in the lineup & play more uptempo like the 2nd unit while utilizing Millsap's ability to bring up the ball ala D-Lee. Basically, get stops or force turnovers then run. Danny/Patty would get a lot of those transition 3s they feasted on during the "Beautiful Game" era. The only thing Patty is also good at pressuring ball handlers so might as well make good use of it w/ Dedmon/Millsap covering his back.
If the other team goes small, Millsap can still play the 4 spot & allow Dedmon to stay on the floor since he can guard the Iggy's of the world. I would also post-up Millsap & run the offense through him ala Diaw. The TOSB Bench line-up would be painful to watch though:
Pau
Lee
Evita
Enirique
:lmao
...but Simmons/Bertans in transition::wow
reguardless of whether we trade LMA or not, I think that that is an option against GSW. Dedmon is an absolute monster on the glass and him and Aldridge would force GSW to have KD, Green, and Iggy stay back and crash the glass and keep them from getting out in transition
TD 21
12-09-2016, 05:24 PM
Should've at least made the effort regardless. The fact they went after a player that can't stay on the court even against the likes of the Bulls before even trying to solidify a position of need is appalling.
Fair enough, but all I'm saying is, effort wasn't going to yield results in this case.
I was on board with continuing on this path because it's almost impossible to get to this level in the NBA (look at the current top five teams, they all needed significant luck), but it's now clear they've slipped to much to even think they'd have a puncher's chance. Might as well start a re-load/build right now and hope to peak again while Leonard is still in his prime, rather than risk wasting it all.
MaNu4Tres
12-09-2016, 05:30 PM
MaNu4Tres was sure that the Spurs were trying to trade LMA. I wonder if his "reliable" sources have any more info.
You couldn't be more wrong.
I never said Spurs were trying to trade him.
Here you go, you and a few others need this.
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spursistan
12-14-2016, 03:22 PM
Not sure what's going on with this guy getting rested left and right but if his body is starting to deteriorate (talk about knee issues), let his ageing shows while he's wearing a different uniform..
BillMc
12-14-2016, 03:25 PM
Not sure what's going on with this guy getting rested left and right but if his body is starting to deteriorate (talk about knee issues), let his ageing shows while he's wearing a different uniform..
A jump shooting big, you"d hope he'd age like Dirk who just NOw finally hit the wall. But you could be right
spursistan
12-14-2016, 03:45 PM
A jump shooting big, you"d hope he'd age like Dirk who just NOw finally hit the wall. But you could be rightExecpt Dirk--more versatile player anyway-- is a gym rat while LMA is known for taking summer offs..Aldridge twilight will be ugly unless he gets paired with PG who would spoon-feed him baskets (ie Chris Paul)..
Emperor
12-14-2016, 03:57 PM
The thing I dislike about Aldridge is his refusal to want to play Center yet he comes in looking like Tractor Traylor but just wants to shoot jump shots all damn day. He is big enough to do some damage in the post much more often if he wanted to and if they ran the plays for him to do so yet he is out there "getting into shape" and getting outrebounded by guys shorter than him. If Westbrook and Dray can snag 12 rebounds then there is no excuse for Aldridge not to do so aswell.
spursistan
12-15-2016, 12:02 AM
Didn't feel LMA was missed, tbh..Up Pau usage and you get virtually the same offensive output with BETTER playing through his nifty passes...The hope would be Dedmon is staying enough on court to cover for the latter defenseless ass..
MaNu4Tres
12-15-2016, 12:11 AM
Didn't feel LMA was missed, tbh..Up Pau usage and you get virtually the same offensive output with BETTER playing through his nifty passes...The hope would be Dedmon is staying enough on court to cover for the latter defenseless ass..
Aldridge didn't play tonight ??!?
Didn't notice.. tbh..
duncan2k5
12-15-2016, 09:22 AM
Trade gasol for a younger big
"Are we going to trade LaMarcus Aldridge or what?"
I'm betting on "or what".
duncan2k5
12-15-2016, 10:04 AM
I'd ship gasol AND aldridge for Whiteside
TD 21
12-15-2016, 05:49 PM
Didn't feel LMA was missed, tbh..Up Pau usage and you get virtually the same offensive output with BETTER playing through his nifty passes...The hope would be Dedmon is staying enough on court to cover for the latter defenseless ass..
- 1 game sample size
- opposition missing arguably best player
- 3 days off
- team due for progression to perceived mean
Gasol is obviously capable of an increased role in a small sample size, the same way they always more or less maintained when one of Parker or Ginobili was out.
In the grand scheme of things, they need the upside that Aldridge possesses though, if they're going to have a legit chance at beating the Clippers or giving the Warriors a competitive series.
Splits
12-15-2016, 06:25 PM
- 1 game sample size
- opposition missing arguably best player
- 3 days off
- team due for progression to perceived mean
Gasol is obviously capable of an increased role in a small sample size, the same way they always more or less maintained when one of Parker or Ginobili was out.
In the grand scheme of things, they need the upside that Aldridge possesses though, if they're going to have a legit chance at beating the Clippers or giving the Warriors a competitive series.
I see you didn't misplace your razor blades or forget the GPS coordinates to the nearest cliff
spursistan
12-16-2016, 01:39 PM
- 1 game sample size
- opposition missing arguably best player
- 3 days off
- team due for progression to perceived mean
Gasol is obviously capable of an increased role in a small sample size, the same way they always more or less maintained when one of Parker or Ginobili was out.
In the grand scheme of things, they need the upside that Aldridge possesses though, if they're going to have a legit chance at beating the Clippers or giving the Warriors a competitive series.
Long-term, you have to start legitimately question the nature of the "upside" this team is building itself around with him being a major cog..
Aldridge is not a player in the Diaw mold we're banking on to turn it on in the playoffs and be the X-factor: he is the highest paid player on the team (and we'll demand to stay such in 2018) with an All-Star label attached to him.. We are expecting a nightly consistency (18pts/9rebs), yet, he is been a ghost for most part in the first quarter of the season..
I don't care if he is little banged-up right now; the evidence is mounting that he doesn't take care of his body seriously in the summer..That's to me a red flag as far as how he would cope when major physical decline kicks in, the start of which is maybe here..
He has approximately two months to play himself back into 1-2 punch status with Kawhi, otherwise I just want us to cut bait fast and cash in on his value (a team like the Celtics is getting desperate from what I read)..
HarlemHeat37
12-16-2016, 02:44 PM
Aldridge didn't play tonight ??!?
Didn't notice.. tbh..
:lol I did, tbh..reminded me of better days(despite the Spurs being eliminated in round 1 in the season of the game below, they were just more entertaining to watch when they were rolling)..
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TD 21
12-20-2016, 04:40 PM
Long-term, you have to start legitimately question the nature of the "upside" this team is building itself around with him being a major cog..
Aldridge is not a player in the Diaw mold we're banking on to turn it on in the playoffs and be the X-factor: he is the highest paid player on the team (and we'll demand to stay such in 2018) with an All-Star label attached to him.. We are expecting a nightly consistency (18pts/9rebs), yet, he is been a ghost for most part in the first quarter of the season..
I don't care if he is little banged-up right now; the evidence is mounting that he doesn't take care of his body seriously in the summer..That's to me a red flag as far as how he would cope when major physical decline kicks in, the start of which is maybe here..
He has approximately two months to play himself back into 1-2 punch status with Kawhi, otherwise I just want us to cut bait fast and cash in on his value (a team like the Celtics is getting desperate from what I read)..
I have questioned them, but it's not about Aldridge being a major cog; it's the overall construction.
He's the one player in the rotation who has significant room for improvement though and at his best, he's the clear 2nd best player in it and a top 15-20 one in the league.
It's highly unlikely that a 31 year old, without a career altering injury and with his physical tools and style of play, significantly regressed overnight. Clearly, he's going to have to start taking better care of his body as he ages and hopefully his relatively porous start (and unlikely All-Star selection, which hopefully adds fuel to his fire) and "knee soreness" is the wake up call.
Just ship his ass out. Don't want to see Leonard wasting his prime years next to this soft piece of fudge.
BillMc
12-24-2016, 12:44 PM
Would you trade LMA for Blake?
Blake is younger., and maybe more versatile. But he's had/has knee issues while LMA has proven he'll play through injuries. And while both have had teammate issues, LMA unlike Blake has never had an off the court problem. Not sure Blake moves the needle for us. With C Paul though, LMA could be a real asset for the Clips.
Chillen
12-24-2016, 01:05 PM
I would only trade LMA for Cousins. Blake has a history of injurys, but if they included Redick sure I'd do that trade if I was RC.
gambit1990
12-24-2016, 01:06 PM
don't trade him without including parker in the deal.
sasaint
12-24-2016, 02:06 PM
Would you trade LMA for Blake?
Blake is younger., and maybe more versatile. But he's had/has knee issues while LMA has proven he'll play through injuries. And while both have had teammate issues, LMA unlike Blake has never had an off the court problem. Not sure Blake moves the needle for us. With C Paul though, LMA could be a real asset for the Clips.
I would make the trade in a heartbeat - and keep my fingers crossed that Blake's knees held up. Unlike LMA, Blake seems like he takes conditioning seriously. He apparently took rehab seriously, too. To my eye, he is as explosive after his injuries as he was before.
We all know that the likelihood of Pop's trading LMA is negligible - even if the Clips were willing. But beyond that, it seems like it is an extremely rare trade where teams swap players who play the same position.
BillMc
12-24-2016, 02:19 PM
We all know that the likelihood of Pop's trading LMA is negligible - even if the Clips were willing. But beyond that, it seems like it is an extremely rare trade where teams swap players who play the same position.
That's true. It's just a hypothetical. Only way it would happen is if 1) Blake tells them he's gone as a FA (or he and Paul continue to have issues and they've decided to side wit CP3 long term) and 2) if those trade rumors about LMA from earlier were true. In that case, this would be a pretty good get given you usually get 60 cents on the dollar when trading star players.
sasaint
12-24-2016, 02:48 PM
That's true. It's just a hypothetical. Only way it would happen is if 1) Blake tells them he's gone as a FA (or he and Paul continue to have issues and they've decided to side wit CP3 long term) and 2) if those trade rumors about LMA from earlier were true. In that case, this would be a pretty good get given you usually get 60 cents on the dollar when trading star players.
Not sure that's a good generalization. Especially with deals involving stars, I think you have to evaluate trades on a totally ad hoc basis. (It isn't an NBA trade, but look what the Cowboys got for Hershel Walker. :wow) I think the Suns (among some other teams) would give the Spurs excellent value for LMA.
mo7888
12-24-2016, 05:29 PM
Not sure that's a good generalization. Especially with deals involving stars, I think you have to evaluate trades on a totally ad hoc basis. (It isn't an NBA trade, but look what the Cowboys got for Hershel Walker. :wow) I think the Suns (among some other teams) would give the Spurs excellent value for LMA.
I agree with that. I think Boston would give good value as well.
still.focused
12-24-2016, 07:54 PM
Trade him for Ibaka & DJ Augustine
sasaint
12-24-2016, 08:09 PM
I agree with that. I think Boston would give good value as well.
I have my doubts about Boston. Ainge notoriously overvalues his assets. He has already squandered a bunch of draft picks the last couple of years because he couldn't find any trades that suited him.
I have my doubts about Boston. Ainge notoriously overvalues his assets. He has already squandered a bunch of draft picks the last couple of years because he couldn't find any trades that suited him.
I think Boston is where it's at. Agree Ainge over values his shit, but hopefully his recent experience will teach him something.
mo7888
12-24-2016, 10:34 PM
I have my doubts about Boston. Ainge notoriously overvalues his assets. He has already squandered a bunch of draft picks the last couple of years because he couldn't find any trades that suited him.
He does overvalued his assets but, as CGD said, hopefully he's learning that doing that leads to 1st or 2nd round exits. Also, they have more young players and picks coming up than they can add to their roster.
Chillen
12-24-2016, 10:56 PM
We all know that the likelihood of Pop's trading LMA is negligible - even if the Clips were willing. But beyond that, it seems like it is an extremely rare trade where teams swap players who play the same position.
If Pop wouldn't agree to trade LMA for Blake Griffin, RC should speak up and say it's happening you stubborn man. If it makes the team better, you do it. A healthy Griffin makes the Spurs better, I would be hesitant to trade LMA for him but it might be worth the risk tbh.
sasaint
12-24-2016, 11:41 PM
He does overvalued his assets but, as CGD said, hopefully he's learning that doing that leads to 1st or 2nd round exits. Also, they have more young players and picks coming up than they can add to their roster.
Yes, that's what I was pointing out. Ainge stockpiled draft picks that he has really just wasted for the last couple of seasons already. I don't believe a rational man would have stood pat with several more players and picks than he had roster spots for, but Ainge did. I don't see any evidence that he is changing his ways. He had plenty of picks and players last draft to put together a package or even TWO to make a couple of block buster deals. Instead he drafted a bunch of mediocre players. But aside from Jaylen Brown, most of those guys will not have NBA careers. But maybe he has learned a lesson.
weeks
12-25-2016, 01:58 AM
alridge is like an abusive boyfriend that never calls
just as you're about to write him off he does some bs in a game that makes you see possibilities you'd almost forgotten
i just wish he played with effort all the time. you should be embarrassed to take timmy's spot without some fire, lma hasn't proven shit
BillMc
12-25-2016, 05:37 AM
If Pop wouldn't agree to trade LMA for Blake Griffin, RC should speak up and say it's happening you stubborn man. If it makes the team better, you do it. A healthy Griffin makes the Spurs better, I would be hesitant to trade LMA for him but it might be worth the risk tbh.
I agree.
And good luck today! Should be a great game.
Chillen
12-25-2016, 10:47 AM
I agree.
And good luck today! Should be a great game.
thx, I've said previously I am both a Bulls and Spurs fan, so this matchup always is fun to watch. Rooting for both teams really, whoever gets the "W" I am fine with.
cd021
12-25-2016, 12:56 PM
Denver Gets:
LaMarcus Aldridge
Spurs Get:
Kennith Faried
Draft rights to Petr Corneille (2016 2nd round pick, athletic 7 footer who slid in the draft earlier this year)
Denver' 2017 pick (currently 9th, though that pick may be in the low teens their are four teams separated by 1.5 games)
Spurs get a lottery pick, a serviceable player in Faried (I'm not necessarily a fan of a Gasol Faried paring but if the Spurs were to trade LMA in the off season I would expect the Spurs to take a step back anyways), and a solid prospect in Cornelie (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Petr-Cornelie-61916/). Spurs save money in the short term ($8.5 million is the difference between LMA and Faried's 2017 salaries, does not include the first year salary of the draft pick). The Spurs do add $13 million to 2018 but some of that can be offset by Parker taking less and the rising cap.
Aldridge is still better than Faried and may be worth giving up the pick if he can produce for them as their young prospects grow around him.
$pursDynasty
12-25-2016, 07:56 PM
No we won't be trading the Ltrain wish we could trade Pau
SpursIndonesia
12-25-2016, 08:04 PM
Trading a healthy & content LMA is saying fuck you to Kawhi, basically.
TimDunkem
12-25-2016, 08:16 PM
Kenneth Faried and Petr Corneille. :lmao
cutewizard
12-25-2016, 08:17 PM
Lamarcus is here to stay.........
Chillen
12-25-2016, 09:13 PM
He had a solid game tonight vs Bulls but I'd still trade him if I was RC for Cousins if the Kings want LMA.
Spurs9
12-25-2016, 10:25 PM
Kenneth Faried and Petr Corneille. :lmao
:lol
Ice009
12-25-2016, 11:20 PM
He had a solid game tonight vs Bulls but I'd still trade him if I was RC for Cousins if the Kings want LMA.
So would I. If the Kings want LA in a trade for Cousins, I'd do it.
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-26-2016, 08:27 AM
Kenneth Faried and Petr Corneille. :lmao
:lmao
These 'Trade ...' threads are awesome.
SASdynasty!
12-26-2016, 08:38 AM
:lmao
These 'Trade ...' threads are awesome.
Our ceiling as a franchise would be the Timberwolves if we had ST posters in the front office.
spurspokesman
12-26-2016, 09:18 AM
The one who needs to be traded is parker. Guy is do everything at this point. Tony is a star that has faded tbh
Kawhitstorm
12-26-2016, 10:05 AM
That's true. It's just a hypothetical. Only way it would happen is if 1) Blake tells them he's gone as a FA (or he and Paul continue to have issues and they've decided to side wit CP3 long term) and 2) if those trade rumors about LMA from earlier were true. In that case, this would be a pretty good get given you usually get 60 cents on the dollar when trading star players.
Contenders usually don't trade within their conference b/c they are competing w/ each other. Lakers could have gotten Dirk for Shaq instead of Odumb/Butler/10th pick + Grant's shitty contract if they were willing to trade within the conference.
Gagnrath
12-26-2016, 10:15 AM
The one who needs to be traded is parker. Guy is do everything at this point. Tony is a star that has faded tbh
This is true however most teams have realized that by this point.... He is also on a bad contract so who will take him? He is also a spurs legacy player and while the spurs have traded them in the past it caused issues.... (See Bowen). Parker won't be traded Aldridge maybe....
gambit1990
12-26-2016, 03:11 PM
someone would take tony. worse contracts have been moved.
the problem is pop probably has no intention of trading him :depressed
dabom
12-26-2016, 03:34 PM
Our ceiling as a franchise would be the Timberwolves if we had ST posters in the front office.
You'd super max Tony if you could. :lmao
Chillen
12-26-2016, 04:47 PM
I don't think Pop/RC would even trade Tony for Westbrook, they have loyalty to him for helping winning the championships. If anyone get's traded on this team before the deadline it's Aldridge/Green, I doubt Pop would trade Pau.
TimDunkem
12-26-2016, 04:57 PM
Yep. As sad as it is to say, Pop and the front office are with Parker until the wheels fall off.
bklynspursfan
12-26-2016, 09:02 PM
Yep. As sad as it is to say, Pop and the front office are with Parker until the wheels fall off.
Idk why that's considered sad lol.
It's respectable and classy if you think about it. It's not like he's out there playing big minutes. Just hilarious re: TP on this forum
Lol people talking about trading Parker. It's not that Spurs wouldn't trade Parker, it's that there isn't a trade out there that would make the Spurs better. Only title contenders would trade for a veteran point guard like Parker, but contenders have nothing to give up (assuming any needed a PG...most have them) and noncontenders aren't giving up assets to get an aging PG. Plus, Spurs don't have an adequate PG behind Parker (Patty isn't a PG and Pop doesn't use him like one often except on defense), so trading him to give Lapro or Murray his spot would effectively waive the white flag on a season where you have an MVP candidate playing great. Lapro and Murray aren't good enough to start or play consistent minutes for a good NBA team.
TimDunkem
12-27-2016, 12:26 AM
Idk why that's considered sad lol.
It's respectable and classy if you think about it. It's not like he's out there playing big minutes. Just hilarious re: TP on this forum
Probably because he'll soon be one of the worst starting PG's in the league. I'd be surprised if he ever sees the bench.
spurs10
12-27-2016, 12:50 AM
LA has the potential to be a top player in the NBA and is the second best player on our team when he shows detrmination. I was not so sure after our sorry performance against the Clippers, but he showed up against his former team and helped reap sweet revenge on Da Bulls for a wonderful Christmas gift to all the fans. Let's not trade him just yet. So my answer is 'or what.'
:lma
tim_duncan_fan
12-27-2016, 12:56 AM
I say trade him while he has had a good couple games.
Boogie would listen to Pop and Kawhi.
DAF86
12-27-2016, 12:58 AM
Something interesting I heard after the christmas game was that LA said that Pop told him to be more agressive looking for his shot. That showed in the last couple of games, let's see if it continues.
When LA plays with a purpose, instead of just going through the motions, he is a difference maker.
Kawhitstorm
12-27-2016, 01:29 AM
PATFO don't make trades during the season unless there are locker room cancers so at this point I'm just focusing at the buyout market & I've my eyes set on Deron Williams b/c the team sorely needs a play-maker considering the two main ball handlers are TOSB.:lol
The team already has Kawhi/Danny to eat up minutes on the wings & Manu+Kyle/Simmons can eat up the rest of the minutes during the postseason. Considering Lee has monopolized the backup 4 minutes, I don't think a stretch 4 is that imperative when Bertans is rotting on the bench although I'm not opposed to adding someone more dependable like Casspi. (Cut Leprosy/Forbes)
spurs10
12-27-2016, 01:40 AM
Something interesting I heard after the christmas game was that LA said that Pop told him to be more agressive looking for his shot. That showed in the last couple of games, let's see if it continues.
When LA plays with a purpose, instead of just going through the motions, he is a difference maker. Yep!
gambit1990
12-27-2016, 01:45 AM
would take deron williams if he gets bought out.
Trade him away.
He sucks.
Nothing but a glorified wannabe SG.
250# (more like 260) and he can't bang down low anymore.
Worst FA signing of all-time. Yes, even worse than the dick.
NameLess Scrub
04-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Trade him away.
He sucks.
Nothing but a glorified wannabe SG.
250# (more like 260) and he can't bang down low anymore.
Worst FA signing of all-time. Yes, even worse than the dick.
Should trade him right now for ZBo and complimentary ref to let him play his style.
spurs1990
04-24-2017, 11:56 AM
Not even trying to play devils advocate. Getting rid of him after all the buzz and fanfare of winning his recruitment two years ago is just not a good look for the franchise.
It could even deter future coveted FAs from signing knowing they'd get run out just halfway into their contract.
It's not like SA has signed that many in the modern era (only Michael Finley after he was amnestied comes to mind on 8/31/2005).
I want to give LA another season to get his level of play up, mesh better with Leonard and live up to the hype.
Because I'm not expecting any equal value to come down the pike for him at this point.
LaMarcus Aldridge will be wearing silver and black in 2018.
San Antonio Slayer
04-24-2017, 12:31 PM
We never trade LMA after those two dunks in game 4!
Not even trying to play devils advocate. Getting rid of him after all the buzz and fanfare of winning his recruitment two years ago is just not a good look for the franchise.
It could even deter future coveted FAs from signing knowing they'd get run out just halfway into their contract.
It's not like SA has signed that many in the modern era (only Michael Finley after he was amnestied comes to mind on 8/31/2005).
I want to give LA another season to get his level of play up, mesh better with Leonard and live up to the hype.
Because I'm not expecting any equal value to come down the pike for him at this point.
LaMarcus Aldridge will be wearing silver and black in 2018.
Another season to get his level up to play?
He's nearing the old man 30s. His best days are behind him.
He's just going to turn into a glorified wannabe SG who'll rebound even less.
man, at this point, i'd put LMA under billy 'the whopper' paultz regarding the history of spurs big men.
Chillen
04-24-2017, 02:05 PM
Haha no one wanted to trade Aldridge for Cousins, I'd rather have Cousins he would have been a good fit with the Spurs. I don't think he is a good fit with the Hornets, oh well it's not gonna happen Hornets are not trading him.
NameLess Scrub
04-24-2017, 02:19 PM
To be serious, LaMarcus is just disappointing. It sucks to see the talent and the tools partially wasted, enough for the Spurs to be in trouble.
For me it still come down to conditioning. Dude might not realize yet he's over 30.
Cockhead fumbles it which leads to a rockets 3. Lol.
The most worthless scrub ass PF the Spurs have ever seen.
"Are we going to trade LaMarcus Aldridge or what?"
All over the leagues, GM's are salivating at the thought of trading for him. The only reason they weren't trying to make a deal last night is that the tampering rules prevent it right now.
Of course, after this team wins Number Six, there's no way PATFO agree to trade him. But it will be fun for them to consider all the players and picks they could get in exchange.
Dingle Barry
05-02-2017, 08:03 AM
"Are we going to trade LaMarcus Aldridge or what?"
All over the leagues, GM's are salivating at the thought of trading for him. The only reason they weren't trying to make a deal last night is that the tampering rules prevent it right now.
Of course, after this team wins Number Six, there's no way PATFO agree to trade him. But it will be fun for them to consider all the players and picks they could get in exchange.
Smoking the good shit this morning are we?
Smoking the good shit this morning are we?
The point is, all the talk about trading LMA is sort of ridiculous. I'm pretty sure everyone else is seeing the same things we are.
He was doubled every time down but had no idea how to handle it. Seems the Spurs need to get him the ball deeper in the paint where he can use his size and strength. If he has to dribble too much, he'll get swarmed.
Dingle Barry
05-02-2017, 08:30 AM
The point is, all the talk about trading LMA is sort of ridiculous. I'm pretty sure everyone else is seeing the same things we are.
Ah, too early in the morning for me to catch the sarcasm.
MaNu4Tres
05-02-2017, 08:58 AM
He was doubled every time down but had no idea how to handle it. Seems the Spurs need to get him the ball deeper in the paint where he can use his size and strength. If he has to dribble too much, he'll get swarmed.
He was 0 for 4 in one on one post up opportunities against Ryan Anderson.
For a larger sample size, he just shot 43% in all post up opportunities all year -- which is pretty bad. Fans are just starting to realize what some of us have been pointing out for over 10 months now.
$pursDynasty
05-02-2017, 09:04 AM
It isn't limited to just him one play early in the game because I didn't watch it late, Pau was unable to post up Harden, smdh. Such softness from our frontline no wonder Raymond bullies them.
Ice009
05-02-2017, 09:49 AM
Haha no one wanted to trade Aldridge for Cousins, I'd rather have Cousins he would have been a good fit with the Spurs. I don't think he is a good fit with the Hornets, oh well it's not gonna happen Hornets are not trading him.
I did. I wanted Cousins and I stated it on here.
HarlemHeat37
05-02-2017, 01:11 PM
He was 0 for 4 in one on one post up opportunities against Ryan Anderson.
For a larger sample size, he just shot 43% in all post up opportunities all year -- which is pretty bad. Fans are just starting to realize what some of us have been pointing out for over 10 months now.
He couldn't even back him down, which was alarming..as much as I dislike him, I gave his offense the benefit of the doubt, at least he would have a mismatch vs. certain players, but he can't even take advantage anymore..
MaNu4Tres
05-02-2017, 01:14 PM
He couldn't even back him down, which was alarming..as much as I dislike him, I gave his offense the benefit of the doubt, at least he would have a mismatch vs. certain players, but he can't even take advantage anymore..
He has never been able to back people down consistently tbh.
It's been inconsistent since his days in POR. However in POR he was lighter, more mobile which allowed him to put pressure at the basket or get higher % looks in different ways from a post entry pass. Whether if it was facing up and pump faking, driving around his man. Or drop stepping going baseline with the dribble, or going middle with the dribble. His footwork was quicker, more decisive when he was lighter.
Now he gets stonewalled because he's heavier and less mobile because he comes into camp out of shape. Not just that, but the guy has no fluid dribbling ability whatsoever to make decisive moves. He reminds me of myself when I pick up the ball for the first time in months. My dribbling is always out of rhythm and the hand/eye coordination is off -- maybe that's the case with him still after taking 5 months off this past offseason coming into camp out of shape.
SPURt
05-02-2017, 02:35 PM
Maybe we can trade him and D Murray for that Ball kid on draft night? I heard his dad is a real nice guy and I think they'd fit in with Spurs culture perfectly.
Maybe we can trade him and D Murray for that Ball kid on draft night? I heard his dad is a real nice guy and I think they'd fit in with Spurs culture perfectly.
Lavar Ball harassing Greg Popovich. I'd pay to see that and hear the horror stories come out of that.
SPURt
05-02-2017, 03:32 PM
Lavar Ball harassing Greg Popovich. I'd pay to see that and hear the horror stories come out of that.
The only way Lonzo Ball becomes a Spur is if he flames out during his rookie contract and his Dad is taken by some combination of heart disease and diabetes related illnesses during the same period.
spursistan
05-02-2017, 05:37 PM
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Aldridge won't fetch a significantly better package than that..He is a damaged goods in his own way. We are talking about the Spurs, of all teams, trying to jettison their first "marquee" free agent signing in like forever..
pad300
05-02-2017, 06:27 PM
859425857206534145
Aldridge won't fetch a significantly better package than that..He is a damaged goods in his own way. We are talking about the Spurs, of all teams, trying to jettison their first "marquee" free agent signing in like forever..
Aldridge for Howard + 1st (Howard's contract is a year longer at 23.5 Million...)
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