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dabom
12-10-2016, 10:21 PM
1
Chris Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2779/chris-paul), PG
LAC
23
31.5
6.26
3.25
9.51
5.61


2
Kevin Durant (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant), SF
GS
23
34.4
5.50
1.89
7.39
4.85


3
Jimmy Butler (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6430/jimmy-butler), SF
CHI
22
36.3
5.49
1.42
6.91
4.40


4
James Harden (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3992/james-harden), SG
HOU
23
36.7
7.66
-1.12
6.54
4.59


5
Russell Westbrook (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3468/russell-westbrook), PG
OKC
23
35.7
6.76
-0.80
5.96
4.47


6
Stephen Curry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3975/stephen-curry), PG
GS
23
33.5
6.72
-0.99
5.73
3.99


7
Kawhi Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard), SF
SA
23
34.0
5.14
0.51
5.65
3.67


8
DeMarcus Cousins (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4258/demarcus-cousins), C
SAC
22
34.5
5.01
0.44
5.45
3.68


9
Giannis Antetokounmpo (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032977/giannis-antetokounmpo), SF
MIL
21
34.0
2.48
2.85
5.33
3.37


10
Kyle Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry), PG
TOR
23
37.3
5.15
-0.01
5.14
3.87


11
Draymond Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6589/draymond-green), PF
GS
22
33.1
1.23
3.79
5.02
3.43


12
Blake Griffin (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin), PF
LAC
22
33.0
2.60
2.37
4.97
3.66


13
Anthony Davis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis), PF
NO
22
38.1
2.35
2.30
4.65
3.77


14
LeBron James (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
CLE
20
36.5
3.85
0.33
4.18
2.93


15
Paul Millsap (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3015/paul-millsap), PF
ATL
21
33.0
0.12
3.83
3.95
2.64


16
Trevor Ariza (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2426/trevor-ariza), SF
HOU
23
33.3
2.96
0.93
3.89
3.03


17
Kevin Love (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3449/kevin-love), PF
CLE
21
31.8
2.68
1.11
3.79
2.59


18
Kemba Walker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6479/kemba-walker), PG
CHA
23
33.1
4.61
-0.83
3.78
2.86


19
Otto Porter Jr. (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2594922/otto-porter-jr.), SF
WSH
21
34.4
2.71
1.04
3.75
2.63


20
Mike Conley (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3195/mike-conley), PG
MEM
17
32.2
3.70
0.01
3.71
2.24


21
Marc Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3206/marc-gasol), C
MEM
23
33.8
2.27
1.20
3.47
2.61


22
Rudy Gobert (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032976/rudy-gobert), C
UTAH
24
32.2
0.07
3.38
3.45
2.63


23
George Hill (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3438/george-hill), PG
UTAH
11
32.7
3.18
0.12
3.30
1.41


24
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2581018/kentavious-caldwell-pope), SG
DET
25
33.2
2.99
0.18
3.17
2.88


25
Damian Lillard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6606/damian-lillard), PG
POR
24
35.7
4.92
-2.33
2.59
2.78


26
Al Horford (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3213/al-horford), C
BOS
13
32.4
0.26
2.23
2.49
1.16


27
Gordon Hayward (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4249/gordon-hayward), SF
UTAH
17
35.8
2.17
0.29
2.46
1.85


28
Lucas Nogueira (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032980/lucas-nogueira), C
TOR
17
18.8
0.58
1.87
2.45
0.93


29
Patty Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills), PG
SA
23
23.7
3.88
-1.55
2.33
1.64




:wow

"Trade him at the deadline." :lmao

Kawhitstorm
12-10-2016, 10:23 PM
Best non-rookie contract in the league besides Wardell.:wow

P.S. Trade Pau for Lucas Nogueira.:wakeup

ElNono
12-10-2016, 10:33 PM
This is why he's going to get paid this summer, tbh... hopefully contract year Patty has some excellent playoffs...

ducks
12-10-2016, 10:34 PM
Dude is not a starter though

dabom
12-10-2016, 10:36 PM
Dude is not a starter though

Found porker after 9 pages. :lol



321
Trey Lyles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles), PF
UTAH
24
22.7
-0.99
-0.98
-1.97
0.34


322
Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
15
25.7
-1.10
-0.89
-1.99
0.24


323
Brandon Rush (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3457/brandon-rush), SG
MIN
10
10.8
-1.93
-0.07
-2.00
0.07

lefty
12-10-2016, 10:55 PM
Found porker after 9 pages. :lol



321
Trey Lyles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles), PF
UTAH
24
22.7
-0.99
-0.98
-1.97
0.34


322
Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
15
25.7
-1.10
-0.89
-1.99
0.24


323
Brandon Rush (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3457/brandon-rush), SG
MIN
10
10.8
-1.93
-0.07
-2.00
0.07

SAGirl
12-10-2016, 10:58 PM
He will get paid and Spurs probably will pay him.

I mean I wonder what agent ppl think Spurs will get when they have a history of retaining the guys who produce for them and Pop loves him.

dabom
12-10-2016, 11:02 PM
He will get paid and Spurs probably will pay him.

I mean I wonder what agent ppl think Spurs will get when they have a history of retaining the guys who produce for them and Pop loves him.

Talking like a veteran Spurs poster. dap.

ElNono
12-10-2016, 11:02 PM
I doubt the Spurs will pay him what other teams can offer if Tony isn't willing to come off the bench, tbh...

ducks
12-10-2016, 11:04 PM
Spurs gave him big contract when he had shoulder surgery
Dude should sign for peanuts

dabom
12-10-2016, 11:05 PM
I doubt the Spurs will pay him what other teams can offer if Tony isn't willing to come off the bench, tbh...

He'll probably make 14mil a year next contract. That's cheap too. What's the cap expected to be? 100mil? That's expected for the time of impact he brings to the Spurs.

FkLA
12-10-2016, 11:05 PM
Found porker after 9 pages. :lol



321
Trey Lyles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles), PF
UTAH
24
22.7
-0.99
-0.98
-1.97
0.34


322
Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
15
25.7
-1.10
-0.89
-1.99
0.24


323
Brandon Rush (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3457/brandon-rush), SG
MIN
10
10.8
-1.93
-0.07
-2.00
0.07




:lmao

ElNono
12-10-2016, 11:06 PM
He'll probably make 14mil a year next contract. That's cheap too. What's the cap expected to be? 100mil? That's expected for the time of impact he brings to the Spurs.

No doubt. Although he did mention he'd like to start.... and he should. But the Spurs will honor Tony's wishes, IMO.

ducks
12-10-2016, 11:07 PM
Dude is going against second string of their team a lot

dabom
12-10-2016, 11:09 PM
No doubt. Although he did mention he'd like to start.... and he should. But the Spurs will honor Tony's wishes, IMO.

Tony is 100% not gonna be a starter next year.

FkLA
12-10-2016, 11:13 PM
If I destroyed the guy ahead of me in international competition and outplayed him during the season I'd feel like I deserved to start too, tbh.

Solid D
12-10-2016, 11:13 PM
Well, Patty certainly knows how to close out quarters for the Spurs. Pop needs to have him in there the last 2 minutes of every quarter. Period.

TrainOfThought5
12-10-2016, 11:22 PM
Tony is 100% not gonna be a starter next year.

Tony should 100% not be a starter now. We just dont have anyone better.

dabom
12-10-2016, 11:26 PM
Tony should 100% not be a starter now. We just dont have anyone better.

Patty is already better. No doubt.

ducks
12-10-2016, 11:26 PM
The point guard is hard to play also hard to play with 7 new players learning where people want ball
and missing games
Patty IS NOT a point guard

SAGirl
12-10-2016, 11:27 PM
No doubt. Although he did mention he'd like to start.... and he should. But the Spurs will honor Tony's wishes, IMO.

Not at this point. It's just not Tony's team anymore... and once Manu retires it may be time to enter a new era for him (though who knows if Manu retires?).

I mean I don't have a crystal ball, but I am sure the two of them and Pop can work it out. It doesn't seem to me like Tony and Patty have any issues among themselves... and at least publicly Tony always says the right things... and Murray is not ready, he should barely start to get schooled by Pop next season, maybe take Manu's spot of this season if he retires or Simmons if he is not retained.

I mean I think of all the Spurs FA for next summer:

Dedmon, (definite P0)
Simmons,
maybe Lee (P0),
Nico,
Patty

I think Patty gets priority.

but again no crystal ball.

I just think he will be resigned and I admit I have changed my tune. I wasn't that sure before. However, he's playing really well and I don't think there are realistic FA PG out there and every new guy you introduce is a question mark (like Lamarcus, you just don't know what you get until you have him, same with Pau, etc). Meantime Pop already knows Mills, he fits in, he knows Pop's system etc.

I am sure they want to retain all those guys but they probably need to prioritize.

YGWHI
12-11-2016, 12:03 AM
Nice. Good for Patty :tu

cd021
12-11-2016, 12:23 AM
He'll probably make 14mil a year next contract. That's cheap too. What's the cap expected to be? 100mil? That's expected for the time of impact he brings to the Spurs.
$102 million

I expect something in the 4 year $52-56 million range

cd021
12-11-2016, 12:26 AM
I doubt the Spurs will pay him what other teams can offer if Tony isn't willing to come off the bench, tbh...
I fully expect Parker to be off the bench next season, with Mills back as a starter. Parker off the bench brings up another issue of bench floor spacing but that's for another time.

TheGreatYacht
12-11-2016, 12:27 AM
Dude can take a hike :lol

Non-contract year Paddy :lol

AFMadison
12-11-2016, 12:54 AM
Found porker after 9 pages. :lol



321
Trey Lyles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles), PF
UTAH
24
22.7
-0.99
-0.98
-1.97
0.34


322
Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
15
25.7
-1.10
-0.89
-1.99
0.24


323
Brandon Rush (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3457/brandon-rush), SG
MIN
10
10.8
-1.93
-0.07
-2.00
0.07




Rent free tbqh

Kawhitstorm
12-11-2016, 12:56 AM
Dude can take a hike :lol

Non-contract year Paddy :lol

Non-contract year Porker might as well retire instead of stealing money w/ a ski mask along Manure.:wakeup

SAGirl
12-11-2016, 01:21 AM
196
Jordan Clarkson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson), PG
LAL
25
29.1
-0.09
-0.86
-0.95
0.88


197
LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge), PF
SA
21
32.9
-0.71
-0.26
-0.97
0.79


198
Kent Bazemore (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore), SF
ATL
22
27.0
-0.99
0.02
-0.97
0.80



Lamarcus at 197...
nearly the entire team roster ahead of him:
Aside from Kawhi and Patty... all of Danny, Lee, Pau, Simmons, Ginobili, Anderson... all ahead of Lamarcus...

Kawhitstorm
12-11-2016, 01:35 AM
196
Jordan Clarkson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson), PG
LAL
25
29.1
-0.09
-0.86
-0.95
0.88


197
LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge), PF
SA
21
32.9
-0.71
-0.26
-0.97
0.79


198
Kent Bazemore (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore), SF
ATL
22
27.0
-0.99
0.02

-0.97
0.80



Lamarcus at 197...
nearly the entire team roster ahead of him:
Aside from Kawhi and Patty... all of Danny, Lee, Pau, Simmons, Ginobili, Anderson... all ahead of Lamarcus...

Empty stat is gonna empty stat.:wakeup

ElNono
12-11-2016, 04:19 AM
:pop: "If Tony wants to start, he's gonna start"

Kawhitstorm
12-11-2016, 10:22 AM
:pop: "If Tony wants to start, he's gonna start"

How much to crack Porker's knee caps?:wakeup (I know you got a couple of goons)

Snaq O'Meal
12-11-2016, 03:54 PM
How much to crack Porker's knee caps?:wakeup (I know you got a couple of goons)

If you do that, Pop will just pick up an unsigned washed up TOSB PG to replace Porker in the SL.

Harry Callahan
12-11-2016, 06:16 PM
Patty is a really good player now. I think the Spurs want him back and will pay him good money to anchor the second unit.

Not sure that a starting point guard role is good for him full time - Manu got paid well to be a difference maker for a lot of years on the second five.

tonight...you
12-11-2016, 06:44 PM
How much to crack Porker's knee caps?:wakeup (I know you got a couple of goons)
https://media.tenor.co/images/ea632e2b3b8b5e5baefa81e8b822ad92/raw

Clipper Nation
12-11-2016, 10:51 PM
That's shameful. If Porker had any integrity, he'd agree to come off the bench for MVPatty (much like Antonio Daniels did for him in 2001), and he'd give MVPatty a cut of his absurd salary while he's at it. Porker is one of the most selfish cancers in NBA history.

Captivus
12-12-2016, 12:32 PM
If Parry gets PAID, can Pop STILL make him come from the bench? Is that something the FO will allow?
Maybe it doesnt make sense for the FO to do that. They wont fire Pop...

If he is not starting and getting minutes, Spurs can use that money to get some other player that Pop will play.
At the end of the end, to be efficient, more money shold means more minutes..otherwise, it doesnt make sense.

It all depends on how much money Parry gets offered from other teams.

Spur|n|Austin
12-12-2016, 02:44 PM
“It shouldn’t take (Pop) doing what he did to get us going,” said Patty Mills, who scored 16 on 4 of 7 shooting from deep. “No more messing around.”

NameLess Scrub
12-12-2016, 03:17 PM
Tony should 100% not be a starter now. We just dont have anyone better.

SAGirl
12-12-2016, 04:20 PM
“It shouldn’t take (Pop) doing what he did to get us going,” said Patty Mills, who scored 16 on 4 of 7 shooting from deep. “No more messing around.”
and he had one of the better games in the Bulls loss. That is when you know he's a leader.

SAGirl
01-06-2018, 03:55 AM
That was back then.

This season in a far longer period since its almost half the season, the spurs have the following players in top ranking per ESPN:
40. Pau
63. Lamarcus
66. Kyle
89. Danny
93. Rudy

Other Spurs:
113. Davis
133. Kawhi (It has to be noted that it's a super small sample of minutes with kawhi and the numbers reflect the Spurs lost a majority of the games with him coming back bc they had trouble scoring... that should change with time but as of right now that is where he stands).
146. Patty
154. Dijon (massive negative offensively)
201. Manu
338. Tony
388. Joffrey
423. Bryn

Make of ESPN RPM whatever you want...
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/11/sort/RPM