Turkey arrests Donald Trump’s business partner to try to force U.S. to turn over diss

[RandomGuy]

"For those wondering how long it would take Donald Trump’s international business liabilities and conflicts of interest to be used against the United States, that answer has already arrived. The Turkish government has arrested one of Trump’s business partners in what appears to be an attempt at forcing him to release a Turkish prisoner being held by the United States once he takes office. The story, first broken by Newsweek and now echoed by MSNBC, sets up an explosive showdown.

The story, first reported by celebrated Newsweek investigative journalist Kurt Eichenwald, goes like this: when Donald Trump first spoke with Turkish President Erdoğan in a congratulatory phone call after the election, Trump made a point of praising a top executive from the Doğan company. The reason: the Doğan company is building Trump-branded towers in Turkey. Trump appeared to be trying to convince Erdoğan to smooth the way for Doğan to build the tower. But instead, Erdoğan had the executive arrested."

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/turkey-arrests-donald-trumps-business-partner-to-force-u-s-to-release-turkish-prisoner/26721/

[IceColdBrewski]

The story, first reported by celebrated Newsweek investigative journalist Kurt Eichenwald


Just another butthurt "Never Trump"er who has already been caught spreading fake news before. Try again.

[SnakeBoy]

lol dailynewsbin

[FromWayDowntown]

Just another butthurt "Never Trump"er who has already been caught spreading fake news before. Try again.

I love this approach to news.

Just deciding what you will and won't believe, based solely upon who reports it, must be so liberating. Facts are such trivial things anyway.

[IceColdBrewski]

I love this approach to news.

Just deciding what you will and won't believe, based solely upon who reports it, must be so liberating. Facts are such trivial things anyway.

Well, when the guy reporting it has a history of peddling fake news, then yes, it's easy to know that it's probably BS. The left is truly getting desperate if they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for Kurt Eichenwald. :lol

[Winehole23]

the notion that other countries will squeeze the Trump Organization as leverage against the President of the US isn't so far-fetched, given Trump's vast personal interests and holdings.

[Winehole23]

having a such a fabulously wealthy person with such far-flung interests presents vulnerabilities, unless Trump divests.

[Winehole23]

should any future decisions dovetail with his personal interests, the imputation of corruption would be hard to overcome.

[Splits]

The Trump family has an enormous financial interest in keeping Duterte happy. Trump Tower at Century City in Makati, Philippines, is on the verge of completion, with potential buyers having placed deposits on at least 94 percent of the condominiums, according to Century Properties, the Trump Organization’s business partner there. During the U.S. presidential campaign, Trump’s sons Donald Jr. and Eric traveled to Makati to shovel some dirt in a ceremony to celebrate the structural completion of the building; a photograph of the two men shoveling alongside top Century Properties executives was posted on the building’s website. (On that same website, a line of jewelry by Trump’s daughter Ivanka is offered for sale, and it is expected to be available for purchase at the $150 million property.) As with almost every property with Trump’s name on it built over the past decade, his company is not the developer; it merely sold its name to Century Properties to use on the building. Although details of the transaction are not public, contracts for other Trump branding deals reviewed by Newsweek show that they require a multimillion-dollar up-front payment as well as up to 25 percent of the developer’s revenue, year after year. So, under the deal, Trump’s children will be paid millions of dollars throughout their father’s presidency by Jose E.B. Antonio, the head of Century Properties.

Duterte recently named Antonio the special government envoy to the United States. The conflicts here could not be more troubling or more blatant: President Trump will be discussing U.S. policy in Southeast Asia with one of his (or his children’s) business partners, a man who is the official representative of a foreign leader who likens himself to Hitler. Also note that the Trump family has an enormous financial interest in Duterte’s deadly campaign: Rooting out crime in the Philippines is good for the real estate values.

[Winehole23]

handing it over to his family solves nothing. sucking up to or threatening Trump's family is a whisker away from flattering or menacing the president himself.

[Winehole23]

Trump would get another huge tax deferral if he divests. He'd be a dummy not to consider it.

He's the President of the US. He's already got it made.

[Winehole23]

If he wants his children to make their own way like he says, what's the problem?

[Winehole23]

he can still leave it to them as inheritance.

[Winehole23]

Is Trump somehow too good to make the same personal sacrifice every President in the last 50 years and all his cabinet make?

[Winehole23]

Great power, great responsibilities.

Does Trump put anything above his own personal glory and riches?

[Winehole23]

It's time to show us he does.

[SnakeBoy]

Whinehole, why don't we

[Winehole23]

we're not the president of the US. different job description. the expectations are understandably different.

[SnakeBoy]

wait t

[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

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[Winehole23]

pull yourself together, man.

do you have something to say or are you just clearing your throat?

[TheSanityAnnex]

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[Winehole23]

what's he gonna do, SnakeBoy?

do share your thoughts, if you have any.

[TheSanityAnnex]

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[SnakeBoy]

What you want me to put my thoughts into a single coherent post?

[Winehole23]

he;s already put off his big talk about it. he's obviously struggling to understand what the job means.

[Winehole23]

What you want me to put my thoughts into a single coherent post?whatever floats your boat. did you have a point?

[SnakeBoy]

whatever floats your boat. did you have a point?

No, no point at all.

[Winehole23]

wait and see.

[Winehole23]

is Trump too good to put the country before himself. or at least decently pretend to?

[TheSanityAnnex]

*too

[Winehole23]

yeah, did you have a point?

[Winehole23]

if you think Trump's business interests aren't a vulnerability you're blind.

[Winehole23]

if he's already too rich to care, he should divest.

[Winehole23]

but he isn't. and that's a vulnerability. for all of us.

[Winehole23]

the notion that other countries will squeeze the Trump Organization as leverage against the President of the US isn't so far-fetched, given Trump's vast personal interests and holdings.

[Winehole23]

handing it over to his family solves nothing. sucking up to or threatening Trump's family is a whisker away from flattering or menacing the president himself.

[pgardn]

the notion that other countries will squeeze the Trump Organization as leverage against the President of the US isn't so far-fetched, given Trump's vast personal interests and holdings.

Donald will just have to sit back and take the body shots.

Come clean or tough luck. You will be questioned. You will be president.

[Winehole23]

The temptation to break every norm must be great, but doing so has implications beyond the personal ambition of Donald Trump.

If he does nothing to distance himself from the perception of self-dealing he becomes actually corrupt in the eyes of of the country (a big part of it, at least) and the whole world.

In essence, he'd be staking the reputation of the country, and his legitimacy, and domestic tranquility, merely to enlarge his own estate.

We'll see what he does. Handing it over to his family won't cut it.

[Winehole23]

By not divesting himself of his estate, Trump puts the country at hazard. If they can squeeze the President, they squeeze us too.

[Winehole23]

Je suis l'etat? Maybe he thinks he's Napoleon.

He'll soon have a hell of a lot more power than Napoleon did.

[RandomGuy]

Just another butthurt "Never Trump"er who has already been caught spreading fake news before. Try again.

So, all you have is ad hominem?


Description of Ad Hominem

Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

Please try again, with a response that actually addresses the issue, dumbass.

[RandomGuy]

Well, when the guy reporting it has a history of peddling fake news, then yes, it's easy to know that it's probably BS. The left is truly getting desperate if they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for Kurt Eichenwald. :lol

That one of Trump's business partners was arrested is not exactly hard to verify.

[RandomGuy]

What you want me to put my thoughts into a single coherent post?

If you can get off your lazy ass to do so, sure. Pardon us if no one holds their breath waiting.

[SnakeBoy]

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150210143007/cardfight/images/a/ac/Joke_over_your_head.jpg

[Winehole23]

Do you think Trump handing his business over to his children solves anything, Snake Boy?

[TeyshaBlue]

I certainly don't. I also acknowledge the incredible difficulty of forced divestiture of real estate with out taking an ass whooping in the process

[boutons_deux]

Trump Pulls Out of Brazil Hotel Project Named in Criminal Inquiryhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-brazil-investigation.html

[Winehole23]

I certainly don't. I also acknowledge the incredible difficulty of forced divestiture of real estate with out taking an ass whooping in the processSure, it's complex.

Guess it comes down to whether DJT thinks public service is worth it. His whole cabinet and all his predecessors going back awhile did,

Is Trump is too special to make a personal sacrifice for the greater good?

[Winehole23]

Winning caught him by surprise. He was maneuvering for a counter-insurgency.

Clearly, he still hasn't thought through the awesome charge laid upon him.

[TeyshaBlue]

Sure, it's complex.

Guess it comes down to whether DJT thinks public service is worth it. His whole cabinet and all his predecessors going back awhile did,

Is Trump is too special to make a personal sacrifice for the greater good?

That's probably the single relevant question. He will likely take a beating that none before could press.

[TeyshaBlue]

Winning caught him by surprise. He was maneuvering for a counter-insurgency.

Clearly, he still hasn't thought through the awesome charge laid upon him.

Yup.