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apalisoc_9
03-13-2017, 11:22 PM
An overachieving team at that.
:lol
Kawhi will Win one, if he doesnt win one this year and proccedds to play fantastic in the playoffs voters are going to be inclined tp vote for him next year and the years following.
There isn't a player right now in the Horizon that's looking like they're going to compete fofr MVP honours for years to come except for him. Harden and Westbrook narrative will die down..and no one else has the right combination of team wins-Star power- than Kawhi for the following years.
Lebron sure...but you get the feeling people are tired of voting for Lebron 2015 is probably the perfect example. Unreal how didnt get that much hype that year. +20 in wins too. Turned a non-playoff team into a contender.
But it is what it is.
apalisoc_9
03-13-2017, 11:23 PM
And is being assisted a lot on his 3's, compared to Harden. Assisted more on his two's than Harden. Kawhi as of right now is not a playmaker. And is not tasked with creating for others.
A regurgitated cliche. :lol
djohn2oo8
03-13-2017, 11:24 PM
A regurgitated cliche. :lol
It's a fact.
What makes him the MVP? Being assisted on 78% of his threes? Seem like Pop is the MVP over there.
What makes Harden the MVP? Breaking his own record for most turnovers in a season with 15 games left?
See I can use one stat as my argument too, dumbjohn.
apalisoc_9
03-13-2017, 11:27 PM
It's a fact.
Regurgitated cliche :lol
DAF86
03-13-2017, 11:39 PM
And is being assisted a lot on his 3's, compared to Harden. Assisted more on his two's than Harden. Kawhi as of right now is not a playmaker. And is not tasked with creating for others.
Dude, why don't you watch a game for a change? No, Kawhi isn't asked/allowed to be the kind of ballhog that guys like Harden and Westbrook are. For the most part, the Spurs play a motion offense where everybody gets relatively equal chances (according to their talents) at getting pts and assists. You will never see a Spur get eye popping scoring or assisting numbers, but that doesn't mean Kawhi isn't right now the number one playmaker on the Spurs (specially since the year started).
I'll give you that on that aspect he's still not on the elite level of other players, but he's been improving dramatically and is, as I already said, the number one playmaker on the team. So, not only he has to be the best scorer and the best defender, he also has to be the number one guy setting up folks out there. I don't know how much more burden do you want.
Cue in ":cry b...but he doesn't score or assists on more than half of his team's pts :cry"
Well, no shit the Spurs aren't doing that, they actually have aspirations of winning the championship.
djohn2oo8
03-13-2017, 11:46 PM
What makes Harden the MVP? Breaking his own record for most turnovers in a season with 15 games left?
See I can use one stat as my argument too, dumbjohn.
Leading team in Scoring, Rebounding, and Assists. (Leads league in assists as well)...Think about that. Only one other player on the team who averages above 7 rebounds per game. 29 games of scoring or assisting on 50% or more of his teams points. 16 triple doubles. Four 40 point triple doubles. All while playing EVERY game and heavy minutes.,
DAF86
03-13-2017, 11:49 PM
Leading team in Scoring, Rebounding, and Assists. (Leads league in assists as well)...Think about that. Only one other player on the team who averages above 7 rebounds per game. 29 games of scoring or assisting on 50% or more of his teams points. 16 triple doubles. Four 40 point triple doubles. All while playing EVERY game and heavy minutes.,
If that's your argument then let's give it to Westbrook who does all that but at much more impressive rates, tbh.
spurraider21
03-13-2017, 11:49 PM
harden is shooting 36.7% on all shots that aren't layups or dunks... maybe he should start settling for assisted shots :lol. kawhi at 44.8%
harden's usage at 34.2 compared to kawhi's 31.3. yeah, that makes up for their defensive discrepancy
Leading team in Scoring, Rebounding, and Assists. (Leads league in assists as well)...Think about that. Only one other player on the team who averages above 7 rebounds per game. 29 games of scoring or assisting on 50% or more of his teams points. 16 triple doubles. Four 40 point triple doubles. All while playing EVERY game and heavy minutes.,
You forgot the part where he doesn't show up on defense.
harden is shooting 36.7% on all shots that aren't layups or dunks... maybe he should start settling for assisted shots :lol. kawhi at 44.8%
harden's usage at 34.2 compared to kawhi's 31.3. yeah, that makes up for their defensive discrepancy
He's also shooting under 40% since like the start of February IIRC. Meanwhile Kawhi is averaging 30 PPG on damn near 50/40/90 in 2017.
but but the system and Harden's burden :cry
djohn2oo8
03-13-2017, 11:54 PM
Dude, why don't you watch a game for a change? No, Kawhi isn't asked/allowed to be the kind of ballhog that guys like Harden and Westbrook are. For the most part, the Spurs play a motion offense where everybody gets relatively equal chances (according to their talents) at getting pts and assists. You will never see a Spur get eye popping scoring or assisting numbers, but that doesn't mean Kawhi isn't right now the number one playmaker on the Spurs (specially since the year started).
I'll give you that on that aspect he's still not on the elite level of other players, but he's been improving dramatically and is, as I already said, the number one playmaker on the team. So, not only he has to be the best scorer and the best defender, he also has to be the number one guy setting up folks out there. I don't know how much more burden do you want.
Cue in ":cry b...but he doesn't score or assists on more than half of his team's pts :cry"
Well, no shit the Spurs aren't doing that, they actually have aspirations of winning the championship.
11.2 assists per game isn't ballhogging. And you made my point for me. The Spurs play in a system that emphasizes ball movement. Harden has to involve everyone himself. Have you seen Beverley try and initiate the offense? That shit is cringeworthy.
spurraider21
03-13-2017, 11:54 PM
11.2 assists per game isn't ballhogging. And you made my point for me. The Spurs play in a system that emphasizes ball movement. Harden has to involve everyone himself. Have you seen Beverley try and initiate the offense? That shit is cringeworthy.have you seen parker initiate an offense?
djohn2oo8
03-13-2017, 11:57 PM
He's also shooting under 40% since like the start of February IIRC. Meanwhile Kawhi is averaging 30 PPG on damn near 50/40/90 in 2017.
but but the system and Harden's burden :cry
What is his percentage on the year? Pretty sure since the start of February is included in season averages :lol
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 12:00 AM
harden is shooting 36.7% on all shots that aren't layups or dunks... maybe he should start settling for assisted shots :lol. kawhi at 44.8%
harden's usage at 34.2 compared to kawhi's 31.3. yeah, that makes up for their defensive discrepancy
Kawhi is also assisted more on 2pt shots. And you distorted the 36.7% since he doesn't take many 2pt shots outside of layups. And is shooting a decent 35% from 3.
DAF86
03-14-2017, 12:02 AM
11.2 assists per game isn't ballhogging. And you made my point for me. The Spurs play in a system that emphasizes ball movement. Harden has to involve everyone himself. Have you seen Beverley try and initiate the offense? That shit is cringeworthy.
The retarded, outdated "high assists totals isn't ballhogging" comment. :lol
Dude if you have the ball on your hands for 99% of the possession, in the majority of the possessions of your team in a game, you are ball hogging. It doesn't matter if you end the possession with a shot or an assist, tbh.
I'll give you that Harden isn't as bad as Westbrook in that regard though.
What is his percentage on the year? Pretty sure since the start of February is included in season averages :lol
44% which isn't as atrocious as under 40% but still pretty damn bad. Point is, your guy is faltering as the stakes are getting bigger. Meanwhile, Kawhichael Jordan is elevating his play.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 12:04 AM
The retarded, outdated "high assists totals isn't ballhogging" comment. :lol
Dude if you have the ball on your hands for 99% of the possession, in the majority of the possessions of your team in a game, you are ball hogging. It doesn't matter if you end the possession with a shot or an assist, tbh.
I'll give you that Harden isn't as bad as Westbrook in that regard though.
A ballhog is defined as one who doesn't pass the ball.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ball%20hog
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 12:05 AM
44% which isn't as atrocious as under 40% but still pretty damn bad. Point is, your guy is faltering as the stakes are getting bigger. Meanwhile, Kawhichael Jordan is elevating his play.
44% for a shooting guard is right around average actually, which is 45%.
DAF86
03-14-2017, 12:07 AM
A ballhog is defined as one who doesn't pass the ball.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ball%20hog
Outdated, retarded definition, tbh.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 12:07 AM
Outdated, retarded definition, tbh.
:lol
DAF86
03-14-2017, 12:13 AM
:lol
Who is more of a ball hog in your opinion:
-A player that catches and shoots it on every possession of his team.
-Or a player that controls the ball on every possession of his team and only passes it at the end of plays to get an assist?
44% for a shooting guard is right around average actually, which is 45%.
You don't get to be MVP by shooting below average, faltering as the stakes get higher, playing no defense, and breaking turnover records. Take your homer glasses off, dummy.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 05:38 AM
Who is more of a ball hog in your opinion:
-A player that catches and shoots it on every possession of his team.
-Or a player that controls the ball on every possession of his team and only passes it at the end of plays to get an assist?
Ball hogs don't pass at all. Btw, never said Kawhi was one.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 05:41 AM
You don't get to be MVP by shooting below average, faltering as the stakes get higher, playing no defense, and breaking turnover records. Take your homer glasses off, dummy.
Wow 1 percent below average, which is pretty much at average :lol
No, you get MVP when your team can't score shit without you. When you have to lead in points rebounds AND assists. When you average close to a triple double all season while winning. All while not taking ganes off for rest. Homer glasses my ass. NBA voters already know. It ain't Kawhi's.
So now the criteria for MVP is who chucks more off the dribble 3s? :lmao
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 07:05 AM
So now the criteria for MVP is who chucks more off the dribble 3s? :lmao
The criteria for MVP is who is most valuable to their team.
Wow 1 percent below average, which is pretty much at average :lol
And since when is "just below the average" shooting the norm for an MVP? Since when is shooting below 40% for the back end of the season the norm for an MVP? Stop trying to normalize it. :lol
The criteria for MVP is who is most valuable to their team.
:lol Why even bring that up then?
SpursFan86
03-14-2017, 02:53 PM
Still think LeBron isn't getting enough MVP love. He's been playing out of his mind since the new calendar year. Yeah yeah, voter fatigue...still seems weird how little discussion there's been about him.
DAF86
03-14-2017, 03:02 PM
Still think LeBron isn't getting enough MVP love. He's been playing out of his mind since the new calendar year. Yeah yeah, voter fatigue...still seems weird how little discussion there's been about him.
Cavs have been mediocre. Lebron not being able to elevate his team's game in the shitty East shouldn't be rewarded, tbh.
SpursFan86
03-14-2017, 04:35 PM
Cavs have been mediocre. Lebron not being able to elevate his team's game in the shitty East shouldn't be rewarded, tbh.
Cavs aren't mediocre at all when LeBron is on the court, though :lol
Cavs with LeBron on: +9.0
Cavs with LeBron off: -8.1
Spurs with Kawhi on: +9.3
Spurs with Kawhi off: +8.4
Not sure how LeBron is supposed to elevate his team's play while he's sitting on the bench.
DAF86
03-14-2017, 05:26 PM
Cavs aren't mediocre at all when LeBron is on the court, though :lol
Cavs with LeBron on: +9.0
Cavs with LeBron off: -8.1
Spurs with Kawhi on: +9.3
Spurs with Kawhi off: +8.4
Not sure how LeBron is supposed to elevate his team's play while he's sitting on the bench.
Cavs are like 6-6 since Love went out. Cavs as a whole have had kind of a let down season. You don't win MVPs when your team underperforms.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 05:46 PM
And since when is "just below the average" shooting the norm for an MVP? Since when is shooting below 40% for the back end of the season the norm for an MVP? Stop trying to normalize it. :lol
Derek Rose won MVP shooting 44%. Pretty sure that is an average percentage. Now kiss my shoes.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2017, 05:50 PM
Oh and :lmao at Fkla pretending like the media cares about shooting percentage when Westbrook has been in the conversation all year shooting worse than Harden.
spursistan
03-14-2017, 08:38 PM
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Harden is the worst clutch performer of all MVP candidates. :lol..His style of play in close games the single reason why I am skeptical of the Rockets postseasons chances..
Oh and :lmao at Fkla pretending like the media cares about shooting percentage when Westbrook has been in the conversation all year shooting worse than Harden.
I honestly believe that if a team ran a total gimmicky season where 4 other players just never touched the ball, and one player had all the stats, even if the team never won a game, that player would be heralded as a great player by some in the media and some faggots on this forum.
Ball hogs don't pass at all. Btw, never said Kawhi was one.
Not true. Ball hogs do pass to avoid a turnover. They are stat hogs, they will hog rebounds, assists and points. If the league started tracking between the leg dribbles, they'd be sure to count those as well in their repertoire. Anything to get numbers that fool casual fans and make talking points during contract negotiations.
TDMVPDPOY
03-14-2017, 10:56 PM
the excuse for lebron is this, when they win games they say his the best
when they lose games? his coasting...should reward mvp for coasting?
Derek Rose won MVP shooting 44%. Pretty sure that is an average percentage. Now kiss my shoes.
:lol That is not an average percentage for an MVP at all. The fact that one of the worst MVPs of all-time won it while shooting that badly doesn't normalize it.
DAF86
03-15-2017, 02:26 PM
Rose didn't deserve MVP that year. Only reason he got it was because of the Bulls record. So, in any case, Rose's example should help Kawhi's chances, who is a lot more deserving this year than Rose in '11, tbh.
djohn2oo8
03-15-2017, 10:58 PM
:lol That is not an average percentage for an MVP at all. The fact that one of the worst MVPs of all-time won it while shooting that badly doesn't normalize it.
It is average for a SG. How many SG win MVP? I'll wait...
BTW, Iverson won MVP while shooting 42%. Kobe won it shooting 45% which is a good percentage for a SHOOTING guard. :lol Fkla
apalisoc_9
03-15-2017, 11:08 PM
Lou Williams should be MVP tbh. Him and Gordon are absoulte mosnters in the Houston System. Every Guard in that System is a nightmare.
Xsatyr
03-16-2017, 03:59 AM
Lou Williams should be MVP tbh. Him and Gordon are absoulte mosnters in the Houston System. Every Guard in that System is a nightmare.
Gordon came back down to earth some time ago and Lou actually hasn't hit his stride in Houston.. I wouldn't claim they are absolute monsters.
Fabbs
03-16-2017, 04:59 AM
If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.
lebomb
03-16-2017, 09:19 AM
If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.
Yeah, I was at the game. He fudged that crunch time finger roll. He should have flushed it.
Brazil
03-16-2017, 10:45 AM
:lol I have again to see the ":cry but but all his shots are assisted :cry" as this is a bad thing or a proof of a player being less valuable than another... that's the worst take I have ever read in all those ST years and thats saying a lot...
:rolleyes my player is better because he does not catch and shoot, he creates his own 36% crap FG.... :lmao oh boy
Brazil
03-16-2017, 10:46 AM
If Kwa would have dunked that for the tie late vs Blazers that would have given him another point or two.
yeah that was atrocious...soft as hell
Fabbs
03-16-2017, 10:50 AM
yeah that was atrocious...soft as hell
I think Kwa anticipated that tall guy on Blazers Nukric was going to go up hard for the block.
Was kind of surprising Nukric did not go up as tall as he could.
I was surprised too.
Also, trail defender made really quick recovery and was siding Kwa.
Combo of two is why chose finger roll.
unleashbaynes
03-16-2017, 01:28 PM
If you're trying to win it all this year, and you get to choose one star player for your team, you pick LeBron. He's the MVP.
Xsatyr
03-17-2017, 05:35 PM
If you're trying to win it all this year, and you get to choose one star player for your team, you pick LeBron. He's the MVP.
The best player in the world who would be most beneficial for the upcoming playoffs isn't always the person who had the best regular season performance that year.
The best player in the world who would be most beneficial for the upcoming playoffs isn't always the person who had the best regular season performance that year.
Is the guy with the best regular season performance the same guy who's shooting under 40% since the start of February?
Xsatyr
03-18-2017, 04:45 PM
Is the guy with the best regular season performance the same guy who's shooting under 40% since the start of February?
I don't know who is shooting under 40% since the start of February but it isn't Harden. If you think it is then check again.
djohn2oo8
03-19-2017, 06:38 AM
40/10/10 last night
djohn2oo8
03-19-2017, 07:18 AM
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40/10/10 last night
Those 10/10 games are contrived.
DAF86
03-19-2017, 03:37 PM
With the Spurs playing their worst ball of the season, and Westbrook burried on the 6th seed, it is Har_en award to lose, tbh.
unleashbaynes
03-19-2017, 10:20 PM
Feeling like Harden will win it, tbh.
spursistan
03-20-2017, 09:17 PM
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AlexJones
03-20-2017, 09:38 PM
Harden MVP. Shoulda won it in 2015 also.
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Westbrook chases stats. There's no stats for defending. He drops off his man to get a rebound.
Westbrook snubbed for the AS now snubbed for the MVP. Is there a higher slave rage level he can go to, like slave rage +3?
DAF86
03-20-2017, 11:19 PM
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Same shit he has been doing all season long: cheating off guys to stay close to those precious rebounds.
I'm ok with Harden, Lebron, or Kawhi winning it tbh. Can see the case for all of them. An inefficient stat padder on a mediocre team shouldn't be the leagues mvp.
Brazil
03-21-2017, 12:56 PM
Same shit he has been doing all season long: cheating off guys to stay close to those precious rebounds.
ikr:lol
bic50
03-21-2017, 06:28 PM
Harden will win it. Well deserved too.
spursistan
03-27-2017, 10:51 PM
AT this point, it's hard not see Cavs tailspin, middling record, and their seed in a weak conference, disqualifying Lebron from MVP despite him having terrific metrics/numbers all around..
That's just too much going against him with the level of talent they have: only a second seed, 52-53 win-team playing in the East with two other All-Stars? meh for an MVP considering the seasons the other candidates are having.. ..
lebomb
03-28-2017, 11:01 AM
LMMFAO at all the Harden is god and WB is a stat padder. Have yall niggas seen Harden play? He is a phenomenal chucker. Nigga will jack a 3pt shot with a 1 on 4 fast break. Harden also has a much, much, much, much better team than the Thunder. Its like apples to pork chops. :rolleyes
Clipper Nation
03-28-2017, 11:03 AM
Harden doesn't even need to pad his stats in the regular season. The refs do it for him.
LkrFan
03-28-2017, 05:09 PM
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:lol dat MVP defense
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btWqEfwZd1CGegU/200w.gif
spursistan
03-28-2017, 07:34 PM
Playoff Harden *Loading* :lol
:lol Frauden
:lol 4/17
:lol defense
Robz4000
03-28-2017, 09:36 PM
:lmao Har_on
:lmao still gonna get MVP thanks to the media
:lmao today's media
spursistan
03-28-2017, 09:50 PM
Dude is such big game bed-shitter especially when good defenses keys on him :lol..
0-4 at home v Golden State/Spurs..
So after being beaten by the Warriors, Harden and Kawhi have taken hits. Does this mean Westbrook is in the lead? 57 point triple double is incredible even for a stat padder tbh. If Harden loses the MVP then the COTY should go to D'Antoni. He's the difference maker for the Rockets tbh, turning Harden into Nash 2.0.
HarlemHeat37
03-30-2017, 12:25 AM
1. Westbrook
2. Harden
3. Kawhi
StrengthAndHonor
03-30-2017, 12:37 AM
1. Westbrook
2. Harden
3. Kawhi
Thank goodness you snapped out of it man. You had Harden on the very top of your list for a while, smh...
apalisoc_9
03-30-2017, 12:37 AM
Harden has a pretty healthy lead at this point, imo.
Voting probably goes.
Harden gets 70% of the 1st place vote
Westbrook gets 20%
Kawhi gets 9%
Lebron gets the 1%
Kawhi would be a lot closer if narrative was thrown out of the window. The great news for Spursfans, a WCF finish should get the Kawhi bandwagon rolling. He's prime to win one or even multiple MVPs if he plays at the same level for the next five years.
TDMVPDPOY
03-30-2017, 12:38 AM
porker doing what he does best, if his not winning it, nobody on his team is winning it
basically gave the mvp and dpoy away in 1 night against the gsw, now kawhi has 8 games left is just out of the equation to do anything...
and I bet yah his going to pull that shit in the playoffs also, if his not getting any credit to win games or series in the playoffs, he makes sure u aint advancing
kawhi has to put up with this pos for 2 more years? lmao kawhi better look for a new team and forget about mvp or championships with the pos still on the team...
HarlemHeat37
03-30-2017, 12:38 AM
Thank goodness you snapped out of it man. You had Harden on the very top of your list for a while, smh...
I still think he's going to win it, though, tbh..
apalisoc_9
03-30-2017, 12:41 AM
Thank goodness you snapped out of it man. You had Harden on the very top of your list for a while, smh...
Like that's going to change the fact that Harden has had a significant lead over everyone. :lol
He has it all. A 55+ win team, third seed, Strong narrative, strong stats.
Westbrook has the strongest narrative, the strongest stats but the 6th seed is going to hurt.
Kawhi would have had a decent chance had they been closer to 67 wins, but realisticly the probably end up with 61 or 62...
Don't think Harden ever wins again if they lose in the second round or first round. Media is going to eat him alive.
This was Westbrook best chance. The masses supported him, but that six seed stinks despite the fact that they're not really that far away from fourth.
StrengthAndHonor
03-30-2017, 12:41 AM
I'm thinking this will be a landslide. The media is all over Frauden's nutsack, it's disgusting. Furthermore, he has a great personality unlike Westbrook. This robbery ranks among the worse of all time (Iverson over Shaq, Kobe over CP3, Malone over Jordan)
ElNono
03-30-2017, 12:43 AM
Didn't Nash win it too with Pringles as the coach? You gotta give Mike D credit, he builds the most fun regular season teams, tbh...
StrengthAndHonor
03-30-2017, 12:46 AM
Like that's going to change the fact that Harden has had a significant lead over everyone. :lol
He has it all. A 55+ win team, third seed, Strong narrative, strong stats.
Westbrook has the strongest narrative, the strongest stats but the 6th seed is going to hurt.
Kawhi would have had a decent chance had they been closer to 67 wins, but realisticly the probably end up with 61 or 62...
Don't think Harden ever wins again if they lose in the second round or first round. Media is going to eat him alive.
This was Westbrook best chance. The masses supported him, but that six seed stinks despite the fact that they're not really that far away from fourth.
I don't disagree as we both now how the MVP voting works, that being said, I feel like Westbrook should get a pass. I've never seen dominance like this since Shaq in 2001. Russ is a couple of good teammates away from winning 55 games.
HarlemHeat37
03-30-2017, 12:53 AM
Westbrook's 4th quarter performances are helping his case, tbh..his last 2 4th quarters have been historically good..the media loves that type of narrative:lol
TDMVPDPOY
03-30-2017, 01:02 AM
u give wb mvp but loses in the first round? that wont look good for the league to market its mvp couldn't get out first round playoffs
same thing with harden and kawhi....
apalisoc_9
03-30-2017, 01:06 AM
I don't disagree as we both now how the MVP voting works, that being said, I feel like Westbrook should get a pass. I've never seen dominance like this since Shaq in 2001. Russ is a couple of good teammates away from winning 55 games.
Advanced Stat Gooks (half the voters) Hate Westbrook and magnifies his deficiencies.
Truth, I love the Advanced Stat guys, I really do. They're a significantly better breed than the the old hacks...
But Wesbrook is going up against a decent % of voters that have had inherent bias against him.
Not arguing for Westnrook though. I think He's third behind Leonard and Harden...
But if Westbook isn't going to win this year, he's never going to win.
I'd honestly vote for him because I dont like Harden and it serves Kawhi to lose this Race this year imo.
Can you Imagine the Spurs winning this year and Leoanrd peforming..
The narrative is going to shift on how super underrated he is :Cry
Like no one gives props :cry
He'll probably end up winning Multiple MVPs in the prcocess.
apalisoc_9
03-30-2017, 01:10 AM
What I do find surpirsing though is that no one is giving Lebron Apology votes after that performance last finals..
In January he wasn't even in the race despite having the third best record in the league at that time, improving his shot, Kevin love missing games etc. :lol
Surprising.
Robz4000
03-30-2017, 01:39 AM
If the Thunder end up crawling their way to the fifth seed I think Westbrook is the favorite. I can still see him winning it regardless but Houston having the third best record really helps him out.
spurraider21
03-30-2017, 02:27 AM
Didn't Nash win it too with Pringles as the coach? You gotta give Mike D credit, he builds the most fun regular season teams, tbh...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBUpiM_CUAAfS_f.jpg
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kobe-bryant-dwight-howard-fight-e1357651428794.jpg
lefty20
03-30-2017, 04:20 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBUpiM_CUAAfS_f.jpg
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kobe-bryant-dwight-howard-fight-e1357651428794.jpg
All I see in them pics are a bunch of TOSBs. Would've been hard for any coach to make something outta that pile of shit.
Bynumite
03-30-2017, 06:17 AM
NBA fans should be glad Kiwi got exposed at home as the fraudulent role/system player that he is. His chances were already slim at this point but this pretty much seals it for either Harden or Westbrook. It's bad enough that he robbed Draymond of a couple of DPOY's.
Bynumite
03-30-2017, 06:38 AM
This would be a 2 man race between Curry and Lebron tbh. If Durant never went to Oakland and if Lebron actually gave a shit about the regular season.
Killakobe81
03-30-2017, 11:51 AM
I'm thinking this will be a landslide. The media is all over Frauden's nutsack, it's disgusting. Furthermore, he has a great personality unlike Westbrook. This robbery ranks among the worse of all time (Iverson over Shaq, Kobe over CP3, Malone over Jordan)
Only the last one was a true robbery AI and Kobe had cases ...
Nash was a bigger robbery maybe even Rose over LeBron and i actually liked Rose before the first blown knee ...
Arcadian
03-31-2017, 09:46 PM
So now Kawhi has punk'd both of the "co-MVPs" on their homecourts.
#KawhiTheRealMVP
Westbrook plays great, then goes into triple double stat chasing mode.
spursistan
04-01-2017, 12:53 AM
Where's Djohn been this past week? Harden choking det MVP :lol
DAF86
04-17-2017, 06:48 PM
Last update:
My picks:
1-Kawhi
2-Harden
3-Westbrook
4-Isiah Thomas
How it will probably end:
1-Westbrook
2-Harden
3-Kawhi
4-Lebron
Real MVP Kawhichael averaging 34.5 PPG on 71.4% shooting in two playoff games.
DAF86
04-17-2017, 11:28 PM
Real MVP Kawhichael averaging 34.5 PPG on 71.4% shooting in two playoff games.
69 pts in 28 shots. :lol
Robz4000
04-17-2017, 11:39 PM
Kawhi is the MVP. I mean the Spurs are literally a league-worst offense without him and a bottom-tier defense as well.
DAF86
06-26-2017, 10:25 PM
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/james-harden-mvp-600x315.png?w=600&h=315
^^ having to Photoshop that. :lol
Still having to photoshop that. :lol
DAF86
04-11-2018, 11:28 PM
1-Harden
2-Davis
3-Lebron
4-Lillard
5-Derozan
DAF86
04-11-2018, 11:29 PM
Btw, clearer than ever that Kawhi got robbed last season.
HarlemHeat37
04-11-2018, 11:34 PM
:lol DeRozan
1. Harden
2. LeBron
3. Davis
4. Aldridge
5. Lillard
DAF86
04-11-2018, 11:36 PM
:lol DeRozan
1. Harden
2. LeBron
3. Davis
4. Aldridge
5. Lillard
Somebody has to get credit for the Raptors winning 60 games, tbh.
spurraider21
04-12-2018, 12:46 PM
harden's gonna win it
lebron should win it
DAF86
04-10-2019, 10:53 PM
1- Giannis
2- Harden
3- Jokic (unless he chokes vs the Wolves)
4-Lillard
5- Geroge
6- Embiid
7-Curry/Durant
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