MVP race

[DAF86]

This looks to be the tightest MVP race in quite some time. Who you got so far?

1a-Harden (above Westbrook only because of team record).
1b-Westbrook (see above. Also, his efficiency could be a little higher).
3-Kawhi (folks underrate his importance because it is the Spurs, but without him this team would go from the second best record in the league to struggling to stay above 500. Patty fucking Mills has been the 2nd best Spur this season and we're still only one behind Curry, Durant, Draymond, Klay and co.).
4- Lebron (without him the Cavs don't make the playoffs).
5- Anthony Davis (best PER in the league).
6- Chris Paul (Clippers suck without him, imvho).
7a-Durant (should be a lot higher if not for joining a team that won 73 fucking games without him).
7b-Curry (even though not on the PS level he showed the last couple of seasons he's still the main reason the Warriors are the Warriors).

[StrengthAndHonor]

Chris Paul is better than Harden. Anthony Davis, really? Hahaha.


Westbrook
Paul
Lebron

[Clipper Nation]

Choke Paul and Harden are both empty-stats losers and always will be.

Westbrook, LeGOAT, Giannis and Kawhi are the real MVP candidates this year.

[DMC]

People always over estimate 2/3rds of the old OKC squad. Russ and Harden are losers. They get empty stats and wow in the RS. Durant is the only one who has the con where ability to get MVP is concerned but he screwed that pooch when he went to GS, I think.

I think KL is going to surprise folks. Lebron is the person to beat.

[djohn2oo8]

Choke Paul and Harden are both empty-stats losers and always will be.

Westbrook, LeGOAT, Giannis and Kawhi are the real MVP candidates this year.

lol westbrook. Just like last time he played without Durant, his empty stats are going to lead him right to the lottery.

[DAF86]

Update

1-Harden- PER: 28.18 - Team record: 31-10 - leads top 3 offensive team
2-Leonard- PER: 27.75 - Team record: 31-8 - leads top 3 defensive team
3-Lebron- PER: 26.71 - Team record: 28-10 - his team is 0-3 without him this season
4-Westbrook- PER: 30.24 - Team record: 24-16 - Averages triple double
5-Marc Gasol- PER: 20.70 - Team record: 24-17 - leads top defensive team in the league

[Fabbs]

Is Media phaggot the sole voters this year?

[Brazil]

If westbrook keep his tripe double average I don't see him not taking it tbh...

[DAF86]

If westbrook keep his tripe double average I don't see him not taking it tbh...

He's not taking it as the 6th or 7th seed, imho.

[MultiTroll]

:lol Todays NBA media.

Who knows who the f will *win*

[Spurtacular]

Cavs would be in the playoffs without Lebron. Spurs would be in the playoffs without Kawhi. Stop with the bull shit, honestly.

[HarlemHeat37]

Based on merit, not a prediction on what the media will decide:

1. Russ
2. Harden(have to knock him a bit for being a system player)
3. Butler
4. Paul
5. Lebron

[DeadlyDynasty]

who cares

[StrengthAndHonor]

Westbrook
Chris Paul
Lebron
Durant
Harden

[dfens]

1. lebeta, easy tbh.
2. cp3 (this nigga is really unlucky tbh, his best years under byron scott and tom rivers :lol)
3. dubeta (talented but a world class pussy)
4. kwahi (just not that talented as the top 3, no shame in that)
5-6. harden/westchimp (stats over wins, weak/nonexistent defenders, turnover machines, superstars with clear flaws in their game)
7-8. davis/kyrie (very similar players imo, they need an alpha star to really shine, imo both are great playoff players in the beta role)
9-11. curry/lowry/thomas (great players, just less impactful than the others, with a penchant for chronic choking and ridiculous chucking).
12-16. giannis/derozan/cousins/butler/paul george (stars, but nothing more, won't carry a team in the playoffs)
17-22. wall/aldridge/griffin/lillard/thompson/raymond donkey (star talented but flawed games)
23-25. love/kemba/marc gasol (even more flawed games than 15-21)
26-28. towns/embiid/porzingod (learning the ropes but extremely talented)
29-30. wiggins/d'angella (future derozans)

hopefully I didn't miss anybody relevant.

[RsxPiimp]

Easily Harden, IMO. Hard not to recognize his stellar play this season. It's a narrative driven award like always, and Harden's comeback story and jaw dropping numbers are on point.

[Fabbs]

:lol Media

Headlines: Sabonis slams off Westbrook's dime

Russell Westbrook is on his way to his 19th triple-double of the season as Oklahoma City tries extend its winning streak to four games in Minnesota.

Score?: Twolves 93 OKC 82 with a minute and a half to go.

[313]

Harden
Russ
Giannis
Leonard
IT

LeBron is all about rings and cash at the point in his career, so he'll probably never go 100% in the RS again...which is what he would need to do to win another MVP.

Jimmy Butler's team sucks. Anthony Davis' team sucks. Chris Paul is having another ho hum good season, but his team isn't the one seed and his numbers have actually taken a slight dip down from last season.

If Derozen keeps having big games and gets the one seed for the Raptors, he might sneak into the conversation . But at the end of the day, Harden is in the MVP.

[Kawhitstorm]

Based on merit, not a prediction on what the media will decide:

1. Russ
2. Harden(have to knock him a bit for being a system player)
3. Butler
4. Paul
5. Lebron

Choke-P more valuable than LeBron when the Cavs haven't won w/o LeBron while Austin Rivers led the Cripples to B2B wins while Choke-P was out.:lol

If you throw a HEALTHY Blake into the equation then Choke-P shouldn't even be mention as a top 5 candidate. Dude isn't more valuable than Isaiah, Conley, Lowry & maybe even George Hill among teams who have similar records as the Cripples.:lol

[Arcadian]

Based on merit, not a prediction on what the media will decide:

1. Russ
2. Harden(have to knock him a bit for being a system player)
3. Butler
4. Paul
5. Lebron

Why don't you think Kawhi is a top 5 MVP when he was last year's runner-up? Explain.

[DAF86]

Based on merit, not a prediction on what the media will decide:

1. Russ
2. Harden(have to knock him a bit for being a system player)
3. Butler
4. Paul
5. Lebron

In which way does Butler have more merit than Kawhi? He's posting worse stats on a much worse team.

[Kawhitstorm]

In which way does Butler have more merit than Kawhi? He's posting worse stats on a much worse team.

But...but....but....he averages more points, rebounds & assist than Kawhi like Carmelo did last season.:cry

[DarrinS]

Don't let it be this faggot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg5H72NKULs

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi/spurs remaining games against the contenders/playoff teams...he needs to win all those games and post up monster stats in those matches....he needs to start campaigning soon...

i doubt wb will win it without a top3 west record....the award is harden to lose now, but anything can happen...

i doubt kd will win it since when does the league award role players mvp?

[140]

i doubt kd will win it since when does the league award role players mvp?
'08 tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

In which way does Butler have more merit than Kawhi? He's posting worse stats on a much worse team.

Bulls are the equivalent of the worst team in the NBA when Butler is off the floor IIRC..

I know that isn't how MVP is judged anymore, though, which is why I said it wasn't a prediction of the actual results..

[Kawhitstorm]

Bulls are the equivalent of the worst team in the NBA when Butler is off the floor IIRC..

They are the equivalent of a below .500 team w/ him on the team.:lol

[140]

They are the equivalent of a below .500 team w/ him on the team.:lol
:lol

[DAF86]

Kawhi is da real MVP, tbh.

-----------PER---WS/48--RPM
Kawhi --- 28.2 -- .273 --- 5.89
Harden - 27.4 -- .251 --- 5.15

The fact that Harden is most people's early MVP choice while Kawhi doesn't even get mentioned is criminal, tbh.

I'm not whinning about Harden being ahead (even though as you can see Kawhi is performing better), I don't care about that. The difference is minimal and a case could be made for any of them (as you can see I had Harden as the number one in all of my previous updates, and he could put another 50 triple double tonight and leapfrog Kawhi in my mind again), what bothers me is the fact that most folks don't even have Kawhi in their top 5 candidates.

Lebron and Durant don't belong in the MVP discussion this year, much less be ahead of Kawhi. Lebron is having some very pedestrian numbers (for his GOAT standards) and the Cavs as a whole are kind of underperforming, whereas Durant joined a fucking 73 wins team, the Warriors already have as many losses as they had all of last season and evidence shows that they perform better when Curry is the one taking the bigger role.

And yeah, the Spurs play the right way and have a nice system (which changed because of Kawhi, tbh) but people really need to stop overrating Kawhi's supporting cast and, specially, Pop's coaching:

-The Spurs have one of the worst guards rotation of any good team in the NBA. Between 4 players (Tony, Green, Mills and Manu) they put up a whooping 36 ppg, by far the worst number of any playoff team (and I didn't check any further but I don't know if there's a 4 man guard rotation that scores less ppg in the entire NBA, tbh).
-They have no reliable SF backup.
-They have no second all-star. Aldridge is nothing more than a role player right now and regressing violently with each game.
-And finally, but not least, Pop has coached his way to more than a couple of L's this season with strange rotations and in-game decisions.

Despite all of this the Spurs are standing pretty with the second best record in the league and in pace for a 60 wins season, that's thanks to Kawhi.

Oh, and yeah, let's not forget about the whole defense thingy, tbh.

So, to sum up:

1-Kawhi
2-Harden
3-Isiah Thomas
4-Westbrook

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Harden(probably a lock)
2. Westbrook
3. Lebron
4. Kawhi
5. Thomas

[DAF86]

1. Harden(probably a lock)
2. Westbrook
3. Lebron
4. Kawhi
5. Thomas

Your opinion or what you think the media will vote?

[UZER]

1. Harden(probably a lock)
2. Westbrook
3. Lebron
4. Kawhi
5. Thomas

No white people? That's discrimination. Where's affirmative action when you need it?

[HarlemHeat37]

No white people? That's discrimination. Where's affirmative action when you need it?

:lol it's 2017 and we're discussing basketball, bro..

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol it's 2017 and we're discussing basketball, bro..

https://theundefeated.com/features/white-american-nba-players/

[lebomb]

Westbrook PERIOD if he averages a triple double for the season. Only 2 other players have ever done this, so its hard as hell to do. He is getting it done with points, rebounds and assists. If Westbrook werent on the Thunder, I doubt they win 10 games this year. Who else do they have worth a damn? Victor O

[DAF86]

Westbrook PERIOD if he averages a triple double for the season. Only 2 other players have ever done this, so its hard as hell to do. He is getting it done with points, rebounds and assists. If Westbrook werent on the Thunder, I doubt they win 10 games this year. Who else do they have worth a damn? Victor O

Robertson and who else? The only one I can think of is Big-O and he didn't even won MVP that year.

[DAF86]

And no, Westbrook doesn't deserve MVP when he's more interested in getting his numbers (on pretty questionable efficiency), instead of making folks around him better.

[lebomb]

Robertson and who else? The only one I can think of is Big-O and he didn't even won MVP that year.

You are correct. Only the Big-O, which only solidifies my point.

[DAF86]

Wilt Chamberlain I believe.

You believe wrong, tbh.

[lebomb]

And no, Westbrook doesn't deserve MVP when he's more interested in getting his numbers (on pretty questionable efficiency), instead of making folks around him better.


Grabbing 10 boards and handing out 10 assists is helping your team get better.

[DAF86]

You are correct. Only the Big-O, which only solidifies my point.

How does it solidify your point when Robertson didn't even win MVP that year?

[lebomb]

How does it solidify your point when Robertson didn't even win MVP that year?

He should have.

[lebomb]

All you have to do is ask other NBA players. See what they say. Almost all of them say Russell should have started the All-Star game and should win MVP if he averages a Trip-Dub the whole year.

[DAF86]

Grabbing 10 boards and handing out 10 assists is helping your team get better.

No when, for every rebound that you collect, you get a three thrilled in your face because instead of guarding your guy, like you are suppossed to, you are more interested in inflating your rebound numbers by getting rebounds that could/should be had by other players in your team.

And no when, instead of running an organic offense which miximizes the opportunities of the team as a whole, you are more interested in hogging the ball as much as possible so you can inflate your scoring and assists totals.

[DAF86]

He should have.

Why do you assure this? Just because he averaged a triple double? What if he would have averaged a double double with 9,9 rebounds? Do you even know who won MVP that year?

[DAF86]

All you have to do is ask other NBA players. See what they say. Almost all of them say Russell should have started the All-Star game and should win MVP if he averages a Trip-Dub the whole year.

Yeah, let's ask Magic Jonhson, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, etc. their opinions about basketball and let's just take it as gospel. :lol

[lebomb]

Yeah, let's ask Magic Jonhson, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, etc. their opinions about basketball and let's just take it as gospel. :lol

Never mind. You are going to argue your point to me with no swaying of either side. We shall see what happens.

[DAF86]

Never mind. You are going to argue your point to me with no swaying of either side. We shall see what happens.

Like 99,9% of internet discussions, tbh.

I just want you to open up to the idea (even if you don't openly admit it) that not just because a guy averages a triple double that means that said guy should win the MVP or is doing everything in his power to win games, tbh.

[UZER]

He should have.

Wilt averaged 50pts a game that same year and also didn't win MVP. It's Bill Russel.

[lebomb]

Well, I disagree. To me, something has to separate players on the court. Averaging a triple double under any circumstances is extremely difficult to do. Otherwise you would have more than one person do it out of all the millions of niggas that have played in the NBA.

[lebomb]

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[StrengthAndHonor]

No way this should go to Frauden tbh. What Westbrook is doing is nothing short of amazing and with a less than stellar cast.

[djohn2oo8]

No way this should go to Frauden tbh. What Westbrook is doing is nothing short of amazing and with a less than stellar cast.

lol he's a 7th seed who has a high usage rate and only interested in his stats.

[Clipper Nation]

If Frauden wins MVP, they should just get rid of the award. It will devalue the accomplishment.

[djohn2oo8]

If Frauden wins MVP, they should just get rid of the award. It will devalue the accomplishment.

The schedule has been daunting. Houston played 29 of its first 51 games on the road this season, tied for the fifth-most road games within the first 51 games in league history. It also tied for the most in franchise history, matching the 1970-71 team. As of Sunday, the Rockets had played a league-high 54 road games

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah no it wouldn't devalue anything.

[Clipper Nation]

The MVP should go to the most valuable basketball player. Not the biggest refballer. Frauden shouldn't get any awards or recognition until he starts playing the game the right way.

[lefty20]

2 man race between the beard and the claw, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

The MVP should go to the most valuable basketball player. Not the biggest refballer. Frauden shouldn't get any awards or recognition until he starts playing the game the right way.

And Westbrook is so valuable that they are close to missing the playoffs. With his stats padding and Kobe like chucking. You are biased though for some reason. you hate Kobe and love Westbrook :lol

[Robz4000]

The schedule has been daunting. Houston played 29 of its first 51 games on the road this season, tied for the fifth-most road games within the first 51 games in league history. It also tied for the most in franchise history, matching the 1970-71 team. As of Sunday, the Rockets had played a league-high 54 road games

Unpossible

[StrengthAndHonor]

If Frauden wins MVP, they should just get rid of the award. It will devalue the accomplishment.

[StrengthAndHonor]

lol he's a 7th seed who has a high usage rate and only interested in his stats.

Dude, come on. Have you seen OKC's roster? They are quite possibly the second worst team after Brooklyn without Westbrook. Rockets would still be a playoff team, albeit a lower seed, without Harden since Gordon could easily takeover.

[PopTheGOAT]

2 man race between the beard and the claw, tbh.
No way the media ignores Westbrook. Still a 4 man race. Love's injury opens the door for Lebron

[DAF86]

No way the media ignores Westbrook. Still a 4 man race. Love's injury opens the door for Lebron

Don't forget about Isiah Thomas.

[lefty]

Damn the MVP race is really black




(Still got it)

[DAF86]

MVPs being blown out at home by shitty East teams, tbh.

[DAF86]

Not anymore :lol

[PopTheGOAT]

Don't forget about Isiah Thomas.
True. I don't see him getting any more than "serious consideration" but he's in the convo, nonetheless

[DAF86]

True. I don't see him getting any more than "serious consideration" but he's in the convo, nonetheless

If Boston somehow gets the 1st seed over the Cavs, he will get more than just "serious consideration", tbh.

[FkLA]

Unpossible

:lmao dumbjohn

[StrengthAndHonor]

831994442068398085

Id rather have Kawhi win it tbh, two way player who doesnt need to stat pad to win games.

[Arcadian]

To those who assume Kawhi can't win MVP because people "aren't talking about him" (which isn't even true), let me remind you: He was the runner-up last year. 2nd place MVP.

When you consider he's having a better season this year, and carrying a heavier load...why the fuck wouldn't you think he could win it?

[lebomb]

Westbrook win over NYK last night

38pts on 59% shooting. 60% from 3pt land........ 14 rebounds and 11 assists.

Get tha fuck outta here with that non MVP talk. Westbrook brings it period.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Westbrook win over NYK last night

38pts on 59% shooting. 60% from 3pt land........ 14 rebounds and 11 assists.

Get tha fuck outta here with that non MVP talk. Westbrook brings it period.

lol padding stats in scrub minutes...this clown man, tried that against the spurs..fkn scrub

as far as I'm concern
sas>Houston 2:1
sas>cavs 1:0
sas>okc 1:0
sas>gsw 1:0

I believe the spurs still have a game against cavs, and 2 more each against okc + gsw .... kawhi can steal it...

if he wins mvp, dpoy and maybe fmvp with a championship in same year? shit put him above jordan

[lebomb]

lol padding stats in scrub minutes...this clown man, tried that against the spurs..fkn scrub

as far as I'm concern
sas>Houston 2:1
sas>cavs 1:0
sas>okc 1:0
sas>gsw 1:0

I believe the spurs still have a game against cavs, and 2 more each against okc + gsw .... kawhi can steal it...

if he wins mvp, dpoy and maybe fmvp with a championship in same year? shit put him above jordan


That is just stupid. :rolleyes

[Killakobe81]

Westbrook win over NYK last night

38pts on 59% shooting. 60% from 3pt land........ 14 rebounds and 11 assists.

Get tha fuck outta here with that non MVP talk. Westbrook brings it period.

Yep. Not saying kiwi cannot win ...I don't think he will. He is not even a lock for first team NBA because he will have to beat out Durant and or LeBron ...no easy task...

[Killakobe81]

lol padding stats in scrub minutes...this clown man, tried that against the spurs..fkn scrub

as far as I'm concern
sas>Houston 2:1
sas>cavs 1:0
sas>okc 1:0
sas>gsw 1:0

I believe the spurs still have a game against cavs, and 2 more each against okc + gsw .... kawhi can steal it...

if he wins mvp, dpoy and maybe fmvp with a championship in same year? shit put him above jordan

:rollin
:lmao

I love Kiwi but talk about delusions of grandeur

[Kyle Orton]

Westbrook win over NYK last night

38pts on 59% shooting. 60% from 3pt land........ 14 rebounds and 11 assists.

Get tha fuck outta here with that non MVP talk. Westbrook brings it period.

yeah he was awesome taking a shit on washed up Rose and a man named Courtney tbh

[PopTheGOAT]

lol padding stats in scrub minutes...this clown man, tried that against the spurs..fkn scrub

as far as I'm concern
sas>Houston 2:1
sas>cavs 1:0
sas>okc 1:0
sas>gsw 1:0

I believe the spurs still have a game against cavs, and 2 more each against okc + gsw .... kawhi can steal it...

if he wins mvp, dpoy and maybe fmvp with a championship in same
year? shit put him above jordan
I agree except the last part :lol

2 titles, 2 fmvp's, 3 dpoy, 1 MVP <<<< 6 titles, 6 fmvp's, 1 dpoy, 5 MVP's

[PopTheGOAT]

Kawhi has a chance to win MVP this year but...

Gaymond is winning dpoy this year #truthbomb

"GS has the best record, they have to get an award" will be the narrative

[I. Hustle]

Kawhi gonna get ROY, 6th man, MVP, FMVP, DPOY, OPOY, Cy Young, Ballon d'Or, triple crown...

[PopTheGOAT]

If Boston somehow gets the 1st seed over the Cavs, he will get more than just "serious consideration", tbh.
Yeah, but I don't see it. Even with the love injury

[resistanze]

832754869152817152

[Killakobe81]

Not that it matters but Harden playing like ass has been stripped off the dribble three times by the Greek freak. Kiwi looks hesitant only Russ, Durant and James of the mvp candidates look like it in this glorified exhibition

[DAF86]

Hey lebomb, you may wanna check on this: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18731835

[spursistan]

836446075988893696Harden has been (relatively) bad for a month (efficiency and defense have both gone south)...Meanwhile Lebron has shot +60% for February is going to likely lead the Cavs to better overall record than Houston despite losing two starters for significant period of time..Amazing how November basketball seems to set narrative for this award. We are long past "Harden or Westbrook" really..Lebron and Kawhi should really be in serious discussion right now..

[StrengthAndHonor]

Dude, come on. Have you seen OKC's roster? They are quite possibly the second worst team after Brooklyn without Westbrook. Rockets would still be a playoff team, albeit a lower seed, without Harden since Gordon could easily takeover.
Heck, I think the Rockets could maintain the same seed even without Harden. Lou Williams is playing like an All-Star in Houston.

[StrengthAndHonor]

836446075988893696Harden has been (relatively) bad for a month (efficiency and defense have both gone south)...Meanwhile Lebron has shot +60% for February is going to likely lead the Cavs to better overall record than Houston despite losing two starters for significant period of time..Amazing how November basketball seems to set narrative for this award. We are long past "Harden or Westbrook" really..Lebron and Kawhi should really be in serious discussion right now..
Worse MVP of all time if he wins..

This should have Kawhi's name written on it.


Harden, yuck.

[lebomb]

Hey lebomb, you may wanna check on this: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18731835


I can see this to an extent, but why isnt anyone else able to get 1 triple double? His trip-doub is inflated that much? Just sayin............. :claw

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Lebron(impossible to ignore how bad the Cavs are when he's out..Irving is a cancer without Lebron)
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Kawhi
5. Butler

[Killakobe81]

you niccas are so delusional ...
No way Durant as the best player on the best team wont finish in the top 4 at least.
With LeBron making a late push award will be interesting.
.

[DAF86]

832754869152817152

Just sits there and takes it like the beta he is.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lebron deserves it but will not win it, tbh.

[DAF86]

Lebron is the MVP of the league, but Cleveland's record on the shitty East is not that impressive and Lebron's numbers this season aren't among the best of his career. If they give it to Lebron this year, they should have given it to him for the last 10 years, tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

dunno how many games kd will miss or if gsw going to start dropping games...

if the spurs can finish with +65 wins....kawhi mvp?

[DAF86]

Kawhi is da real MVP, tbh.

That is it, and that is all. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise, tbh.

[FkLA]

If Kawhi keeps it up the media will have no choice but to stop nutriding Westbrook and Harden. This two man-race narrative is bullshit. Kawhi has been every bit as good.

[DAF86]

If Kawhi keeps it up the media will have no choice but to stop nutriding Westbrook and Harden. This two man-race narrative is bullshit. Kawhi has been every bit as good.

Kawhi has been better. The stats that matter show it. And he has as shaky supporting cast as any of those two (maybe not as bad as OKC, but not by as much as everyone thinks, tbh).

[FkLA]

Kawhi has been better. The stats that matter show it. And he has as shaky supporting cast as any of those two (maybe not as bad as OKC, but not by as much as everyone thinks, tbh).

No argument from me. You are preaching to the choir, hermano. I just hope the media wakes the fuck up and gives Kawhi his due.

[resistanze]

The narrative has been too strong tbh. Steve Nash all over again - Harden will win.

[DAF86]

PG- Murray - 6 pts
SG- Green - 3 pts
SF- Kawhi - 31 pts
PF- Aldridge - 6 pts
C- Dedmon - 4 pts

":cry b ..but the Spurs system :cry"

[ambchang]

I was on the harden bandwagon early in the season but he's been exposed lately. Westbrook is totally stat padding. Lebron is cruising. Greek freak is putting up empty stats. Durant is now hurt and he just joined the greatest team of all time. Curry regresses and is playing at the 2015 level, which was good but the MVP field improved this year.

Kawhi should win it but won't.

[djohn2oo8]

I was on the harden bandwagon early in the season but he's been exposed lately. Westbrook is totally stat padding. Lebron is cruising. Greek freak is putting up empty stats. Durant is now hurt and he just joined the greatest team of all time. Curry regresses and is playing at the 2015 level, which was good but the MVP field improved this year.

Kawhi should win it but won't.
team still 3rd...

[StrengthAndHonor]

team still 3rd...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.2628466.1295827736!/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.JPG

[HarlemHeat37]

OKC is 1.5 back of 4th place, despite having one of the shittiest supporting casts I've ever seen on a playoff team..Westbrook's on/off numbers are historically good, none of his teammates even approach him in any metric..he'll be a lock if they get in the top 4, maybe even top 5..

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[StrengthAndHonor]

Starting lineup for last nights blowout against Clippers:
Ariza +8
Anderson +7
Capela +15
Beverly +32
Harden 0


Harden had the lowest +/- last night aside from Bobby Brown who only played like 0.4 seconds.

Harden also leads the league in turnovers :lol

[Killakobe81]

Starting lineup for last nights blowout against Clippers:
Ariza +8
Anderson +7
Capela +15
Beverly +32
Harden 0


Harden had the lowest +/- last night aside from Bobby Brown who only played like 0.4 seconds.

Harden also leads the league in turnovers :lol

I would vote Russ over Harden, but those acting as though he (Beard) is not at least a legit candidate along with Durant are full of shit...
Durants case grows stronger as Dubs lose without him and Curry and Klay are coming back to earth 3pt shooting wise

[Killakobe81]

Dubs about to be 0-2 since the knee

[DMC]

Russ is likely the MVP but there are a few in the league who could put up similar numbers if the rest of the team, owners, front office, coach, didn't give a shit like in OKC. It's a testament to just how shitty Melo has become that he cannot fill the stat sheets with his ball whoring these days.

[140]

I would vote Russ over Harden, but those acting as though he (Beard) is not at least a legit candidate along with Durant are full of shit...
Durants case grows stronger as Dubs lose without him and Curry and Klay are coming back to earth 3pt shooting wise


Dubs about to be 0-2 since the knee
:lol dubs won 73 games without him last year, that's all that needs to be said tbh

[DAF86]

OKC is 1.5 back of 4th place, despite having one of the shittiest supporting casts I've ever seen on a playoff team..Westbrook's on/off numbers are historically good, none of his teammates even approach him in any metric..he'll be a lock if they get in the top 4, maybe even top 5..

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Westbrook won't finish top 4 'cause he shoots like shit, tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if kawhi doesn't win mvp, does he have a case for dpoy? ppl keep on saying gilbert or draymond, but they havnt done anything worth mentioning this year

u cant give it to draymond cause he was meant to win it the past 2 seasons, this is not a honor award man or else Duncan would've had one b y now

[StrengthAndHonor]

if kawhi doesn't win mvp, does he have a case for dpoy? ppl keep on saying gilbert or draymond, but they havnt done anything worth mentioning this year

u cant give it to draymond cause he was meant to win it the past 2 seasons, this is not a honor award man or else Duncan would've had one b y now


I think thats very unlikely. Donkey is probably a lock.

The members with awards ballots credentials conducted an informal poll Pre All Star Break and Dryamond tallied a comfortable 100+ point lead over Kawhi.


This constituency should hold over the next six weeks tbh.

[spursistan]

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[StrengthAndHonor]

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System player LOL...

[FkLA]

836446075988893696Harden has been (relatively) bad for a month (efficiency and defense have both gone south)...Meanwhile Lebron has shot +60% for February is going to likely lead the Cavs to better overall record than Houston despite losing two starters for significant period of time..Amazing how November basketball seems to set narrative for this award. We are long past "Harden or Westbrook" really..Lebron and Kawhi should really be in serious discussion right now..

Meanwhile Kawhi in 2017:

28.2 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 3.7 APG, 1.8 SPG
50.2 FG%/35.7 3PT%/86.1 FT%
All-World Defense

[AaronY]

832754869152817152
:lmao

[-21-]

1. Westbrook
2. Kawhi
3. LeBron
4. Harden
5. Everyone else

[Raven]

kawhi is a bit late in the dance, but he is making a push for DPOY, MIPOY and MVP

[spurraider21]

he's not in the running for most improved player

[Killakobe81]

kawhi is a bit late in the dance, but he is making a push for DPOY, MIPOY and MVP

Stop it with most improved ...he was a top mvp candidate last year ...

[FkLA]

Kawhi won't win MIP nor should he, but Wardell got MIP buzz last year after an MVP season. Not sure why throwing Kawhi's name in the mix is so farfetched.

[Raven]

Stop it with most improved ...he was a top mvp candidate last year ...

i don't see who else should win it tbh, he's improved a lot as a scorer.

[Robz4000]

i don't see who else should win it tbh, he's improved a lot as a scorer.

Jokic prolly wins it imo

[spurraider21]

Kawhi won't win MIP nor should he, but Wardell got MIP buzz last year after an MVP season. Not sure why throwing Kawhi's name in the mix is so farfetched.curry was also having a historically great offensive season, to be fair

[StrengthAndHonor]

Come on guys, MIP is either Otto Porter or Giannis and tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

while over at realgm they got lebron 2nd or already with the excuses for that pos...

cavs are dropping games when lebron is out and t hey are 0-5 without him, but b4 he return to the cavs, they were already shit...so how can u use that excuse that they need him?

[Spurtacular]

Westbrook gonna lead his team to 44 wins and he's ahead of Kawhi?

[Spurtacular]

4- Lebron (without him the Cavs don't make the playoffs).


Without him getting management to dole out all that money for other players? Would they be any worse if Kawhi was on the team instead?

[tbdog]

Without him getting management to dole out all that money for other players? Would they be any worse if Kawhi was on the team instead?

Nope, better.

[resistanze]

Without him getting management to dole out all that money for other players? Would they be any worse if Kawhi was on the team instead?

Nope, better.

Why do you people have to always go full retard? Kawhi is neck and neck with LeBron for MVP in my opinion, but Kawhi wouldn't make Cleveland better than LeBron does (the gap in their playmaking is still large). I thought that idiotic poll upstairs from last season would've stopped these takes, tbh.

[Raven]

Jokic prolly wins it imo

too young

[Killakobe81]

You niccas are dumb, dismissing Harden, westbrook Durant even LeBron 2 prop up your boy KL. He is a beast but shitting on the other canidates screams insecurities...

[Killakobe81]

i don't see who else should win it tbh, he's improved a lot as a scorer.

You dont see a lot of things with those homer/hater glasses you Sportin' Raven...

[Bynumite]

Both Harden and Westbrook ahead of Kiwi in the mvp race.

Replace any of the two with Kiwi and Rockets/Thunder don't even make the playoffs. Kiwi is not a better passer or scorer than those two. Slightly better defender but that's about it.

[UZER]

Both Harden and Westbrook ahead of Kiwi in the mvp race.

Replace any of the two with Kiwi and Rockets/Thunder don't even make the playoffs. Kiwi is not a better passer or scorer than those two. Slightly better defender but that's about it.

Ok

[DAF86]

CROSS THAT BEARDED NIGGA OUT. KAWHI JUST TOOK HIM OUT FOR GOOD. REST IN PEACE SON.

[UZER]

:lol bynumite

[spursistan]

LMAO Kawhi showing Harden it's is two way game :lol..

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg17Jcuse6U

[BD24]

yet a fucking stat padder on a one and done playoff team is gonna win the damn award.

[RGMCSE]

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[DMX7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg17Jcuse6U

SportsCenter Top 1 Play of the Night.

[DMX7]

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[BD24]

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haha Screamin A smith hopping on the bandwagon now pretending he hasnt ignored kawhi for the whole season to this point.

[TDMVPDPOY]

cmon now, wgaf what rocket fans has to say...remember when they said pasons>kawhi? lmao what a fkn joke of ass team base

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Harden
2. Kawhi
3. Westbrook
4. Lebron
5. ??

MIP will be Jokic or Giannis, seems like it's a lock between those 2..

6th man should go to James Johnson, but not sure if he has enough name recognition..

[Ice009]

1. Harden
2. Kawhi
3. Westbrook
4. Lebron
5. ??

MIP will be Jokic or Giannis, seems like it's a lock between those 2..

6th man should go to James Johnson, but not sure if he has enough name recognition..

James Johnson *shaking my head* the guy I wanted on the Spurs 2 or 3 seasons ago to play backup SF and some small ball 4. Has he played that well this season, Harlem?

[apalisoc_9]

1. Harden
2. Kawhi
3. Westbrook
4. Lebron
5. ??

MIP will be Jokic or Giannis, seems like it's a lock between those 2..

6th man should go to James Johnson, but not sure if he has enough name recognition..

Jokic easily. The turnaround in their offense when they comitted to him as a Big Playmaker is insane.

They're like one of the top 5 offenses in the league. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

James Johnson *shaking my head* the guy I wanted on the Spurs 2 or 3 seasons ago to play backup SF and some small ball 4. Has he played that well this season, Harlem?

He's been their 2nd best player behind Dragic IMO and has become a legit offensive bench anchor..the only knock on him for 6MOTY could be that Tyler Johnson is also a top 5 candidate, as well..

[Killakobe81]

SportsCenter Top 1 Play of the Night.
Gotta admit that was LeBronesque and mvpworthy

[TDMVPDPOY]

how many of the porker fans are jumping on the bandwagon? lmao porkerfans

[TDMVPDPOY]

remember that year kobe avg +34ppg and still couldn't win mvp cause his team finish 7th? even with the historic consecutive 30pt+ games ?

now if they didn't give him mvp, why should they give it to wb who is clearly padding his stats to avg a triple double, and hardens game Is just a mimick of currys video game mvp year, chucking +10 3pta and if u hit half of that u already got 15pts on ur way to +30pts...fkn empty stats guys

[Ice009]

He's been their 2nd best player behind Dragic IMO and has become a legit offensive bench anchor..the only knock on him for 6MOTY could be that Tyler Johnson is also a top 5 candidate, as well..

What do you think steered the Spurs away from him? I think it was the 2014 off-season they bought him in for workouts, but didn't even sign him to the training camp roster. I'm baffled at why they passed on him. Almost every time that he's played the Spurs since then, I thought he's looked good.


Gotta admit that was LeBronesque and mvpworthy

Ahh Lebron got the block, but Kyrie hit the 3. Kawhi hit the 3, then got the block, then got the rebound, then made the free throws.

[HarlemHeat37]

What do you think steered the Spurs away from him? I think it was the 2014 off-season they bought him in for workouts, but didn't even sign him to the training camp roster. I'm baffled at why they passed on him. Almost every time that he's played the Spurs since then, I thought he's looked good.

Many teams passed on him..he was known for having a poor work ethic and not caring about basketball until this season(in his own words)..

[Ice009]

Many teams passed on him..he was known for having a poor work ethic and not caring about basketball until this season(in his own words)..

Wow, well that sucks as I thought he's look good almost every time I've seen him play against the Spurs.

[midnightpulp]

Both Harden and Westbrook ahead of Kiwi in the mvp race.

Replace any of the two with Kiwi and Rockets/Thunder don't even make the playoffs. Kiwi is not a better passer or scorer than those two. Slightly better defender but that's about it.

:lmao

[szkorhetz]

yet a fucking stat padder on a one and done playoff team is gonna win the damn award.
Leonard isn't stat padding, TBH.

[BD24]

Leonard isn't stat padding, TBH.
reading comprehension is your friend.

[DAF86]

reading comprehension is your friend.

And joke getting is yours, tbh.

[lebomb]

Both Harden and Westbrook ahead of Kiwi in the mvp race.

Replace any of the two with Kiwi and Rockets/Thunder don't even make the playoffs. Kiwi is not a better passer or scorer than those two. Slightly better defender but that's about it.

He isnt supposed to be. He isnt a guard. :rolleyes He is every bit as good of a scorer.......he avg 26 a game, and had the same 39 that Harden had last night. Defense is laughable. Kawhi is 110% better on defense than Harden and he is much better than WB on defense. :claw

[Chucho]

1. Kawhi
2. Thomas
3. Westbrook
4. Harden
5. Defacto LBJ

Not that what Westbrook is doing isn't impressive, but triple doubles aren't the measurement for MVP, but if so, JKidd would have an MVP. They are great players playing for middle-of-the-pack teams. The West is a two-horse race and Kawhi is just so much more to his team than stat padders playing for 1st round bounces.

[lilbthebasedgod]

1. Lebron
2. Giannis
3. Kawhi
4. Harden

[TD 21]

1. Leonard
2. Harden
3. James
4. Westbrook
5. Durant

- I despise the Warriors, yet had Curry from damn near start to finish last season and Harden earlier this one, so this isn't me being a homer
- I had Durant 4 before his injury and though he won't finish top five (Thomas will), I don't see anyone else deserving at the moment of leapfrogging him

[tonight...you]

1. Lebron
2. Giannis
3. Kawhi
4. Harden
Jesus...
You give Lil B a shit name, fuckface. And that ain't easy...

[StrengthAndHonor]

I hope the media gets this one right. FFS, how can you have Harden over a legitimate 2 way player in Leonard.

[BatManu20]

Westbrook currently lighting up the Blazers on NBA TV. He really wants the MVP tbh. And it's his to lose imho.

[spurraider21]

1. Lebron
2. Giannis
3. Kawhi
4. Hardenclipper nation alt tbh

[spursistan]

Thunder are reeling an could be 41-41 team when it said and done..Yeah, you're getting MVP for 7th seed and .500 ball club :lol

[99 Problems]

I can't have mvps who turn ball over in big numbers. (Playmaker allowance and all)

[Spurs9]

Westbrook has 56 right now :wow

[Robz4000]

And a nice lil' L to go with all his points.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I can't have mvps who turn ball over in big numbers. (Playmaker allowance and all)

58 points and lost is classic Iverson performance. His MVP race is over.

[UZER]

Westbrook has 56 right now :wow

On 39 shots

[spursistan]

And a nice lil' L to go with all his points.

They are going to finish as .500 team and the 7th seed :lol.

The essence of the award would be absolutely lost if they handed it to a player on a team with such lowly pedigree. Kawhi could bury his bid on Thursday..At this point, I hope Pop let him chase thing as long as the Spurs have a horse in the race. You never know what the future holds for you.

[Arcadian]

:lol Westbrook trying so hard to outshine Kawhi
:lol Still loses the game

[spursistan]

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This "oh triple doubles!" narrative as the clincher has been a pathetic dominant theme in MVP RACE.. :lol

[DAF86]

39 shots, the second guy with most shots on the team had 9.

And to think folks upstairs bitch about Kawhi taking 18 shots per game. :lol

[SpursIndonesia]

Westbrook has 56 right now :wow

And yet still lost to the lowly Blazers. At home too. :lol

[Spurs9]

And yet still lost to the lowly Blazers. At home too. :lol

:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

the mutts over at realgm with the excuses and made up shit with kawhi he cant win...

has no playmaking skills

why does kawhi need playmaking skills when his on pace to win +60 games? why does he need to pad his assists column if his winning games?

I assume they don't watch spurs games at all since they play a boring style with no prima donnas on the team, not his fault if clowns on the team aint making shots from his passes, then they say look at their fg%, yeh why don't u look at how much shots they made for the year? its down on previous year...

[spurraider21]

On 39 shotsthat's incredibly efficient

[spurraider21]

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[FkLA]

Can't be a coincidence that he decides to do this a day after everyone is talking about Kawhi. 39 shots and the next guy only having 9 is ridiculous. Not even a Russ hater, but he's chasing personal glory at this point. I don't see how that's what being an MVP is about no matter how gaudy his numbers are. Inhuman performances are supposed to happen naturally to help the team win not for the sole purpose of building up your MVP resume.

[spursistan]

Can't be a coincidence that he decides to do this a day after everyone is talking about Kawhi. 39 shots and the next guy only having 9 is ridiculous. Not even a Russ hater, but he's chasing personal glory at this point. I don't see how that's what being an MVP is about no matter how gaudy his numbers are. Inhuman performances are supposed to happen naturally to help the team win not for the sole purpose of building up your MVP resume.

It was so fuckin' obvious..:lol

[spursistan]

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* the KG comparison isn't totally on point since Kawhi is far and away the first offensive option on his team..

[TDMVPDPOY]

if the spurs win tommarow and against gsw, they be riding a 11 game winning streak, then next 5-6 games is against scrubs...now if they can extend that streak to 17 games, then comes the next gauntlet cavs/gsw/okc/Utah/mem ...... league doing whatever to stop kawhi from winning mvp and dpoy

[Killakobe81]

if the spurs win tommarow and against gsw, they be riding a 11 game winning streak, then next 5-6 games is against scrubs...now if they can extend that streak to 17 games, then comes the next gauntlet cavs/gsw/okc/Utah/mem ...... league doing whatever to stop kawhi from winning mvp and dpoy

He has a legit shot to win so relax ....

Great article about westbrook and his high usage rate ...

https://theringer.com/the-russell-westbrook-problem-54e59db48117#.nhdyyvdks

Compares Westbrook's year to kobe in 2007 and Jordan in 1987(?)
Loves his game but argues against it as a winning formula ...

[Bynumite]

Westbrook solidifying his case with a triple double and a W against the glorified role player/system player :toast

[UZER]

Westbrook solidifying his case with a triple double and a W against the glorified role player/system player :toast

Oh look who showed back up.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol wb padding stats against dleague roster pop is putting out to close the game

[RGMCSE]

Lol fuck the MVP. I hope harden gets it. Lol clutch fans.

[BatManu20]

If it goes to anybody not named Lebron, then it's not going to its rightful recepient. But if it's not going to go to LBJ, it should be Kawhi, then Harden, then Russ.

[Robz4000]

Cavs are losing even with Lebron tbh. I know how bad the Cavs are without him, but you could argue the Spurs would be worse than even that without Kiwi.

[Bynumite]

Cavs are losing even with Lebron tbh. I know how bad the Cavs are without him, but you could argue the Spurs would be worse than even that without Kiwi.

Spurs are 5-1 without Kiwi and just came back from a 28 deficit without him too :lol

The system player doesn't deserve mvp honors tbh. Basically, you could replace him with Matt Barnes and the spurs would keep on winning due to the system they play in.

[Robz4000]

Spurs are 5-1 without Kiwi and just came back from a 28 deficit without him too :lol

The system player doesn't deserve mvp honors tbh. Basically, you could replace him with Matt Barnes and the spurs would keep on winning due to the system they play in.

:lmao no

[ambchang]

Lucky none of us actually have a vote for the MVP, or the player having the best last game of the season will win it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Cavs are losing even with Lebron tbh. I know how bad the Cavs are without him, but you could argue the Spurs would be worse than even that without Kiwi.

this is lame excuse for a lame player man, is t he gm/ceo of his team, has the same roster as last season, highest payroll in the league, goes after mercenaries, plays in the pathetic easts, has 2 other shitty allstars on team, yet is behind gsw/spurs and ties Houston for 3rd best record in league when they should be padding wins against pathetic easts teams

so lets get this straight, when they win games ... irving and love are allstars
when they lose games .... irving and love are jackshit
the double standards for this pos....

now this year and last season shows me how overrated the bulls 72-10 record is....I dunno how many times the spurs could've beatened that record, but pop doesn't care about a meaningless record set by a turd against pathetic competition...

[Spurtacular]

1. Lebron(impossible to ignore how bad the Cavs are when he's out..Irving is a cancer without Lebron)
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Kawhi
5. Butler

:lmao

You are slobbering all over that knob. Lebron is not MVP though, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

MVP with 38, 11 and 10 tonight

[spursistan]

Djohn first log in since Kawhi took Harden to the woodshed in the fourth Q of Spurs-Rox game :lol

[DAF86]

MVP with 38, 11 and 10 tonight

I thought you had died son. Good to know you are OK, tbh. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Djohn first log in since Kawhi took Harden to the woodshed in the fourth Q of Spurs-Rox game :lol

Who has a bigger burden to carry? It ain't Kawhi. I would give it to Westbrook over him.

[djohn2oo8]

I thought you had died son. Good to know you are OK, tbh. :lol

One game.

[DAF86]

One game.

Actually 65 games that have Kawhi, the best defensive and offensive player (and only all-star) of his team, only half a game behind the Warriors for the best record in the entire league, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

Actually 65 games that have Kawhi, the best defensive and offensive player (and only all-star) of his team, only half a game behind the Warriors for the best record in the entire league, tbh.

Prentending like his team and the system are trash. Kawhi does not have the burden of Harden, Westbrook or LeBron.

[DAF86]

Prentending like his team and the system are trash. Kawhi does not have the burden of Harden, Westbrook or LeBron.

The Spurs guard rotation is the rotation of guards that provides the least amount of pts in the entire NBA.

Kawhi has no reliable SF backup on the entire roster and no reliable second scorer.

I don't know if you want to call it trash or what, but that's pretty bad, tbh.

[FkLA]

Djohn first log in since Kawhi took Harden to the woodshed in the fourth Q of Spurs-Rox game :lol

:lmao

Seriously though, glad he didn't hang himself after what Kawhi did to his hero, tbh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Kawhi does not have the burden of Harden.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Killakobe81]

Harden is legit, Russ is legit, Kl all are legit candidates...
And of course LeBron ...a case can be made for any of them not sure why Spur fan has to shit on the other great seasons, to prop up Leonard. If he wins i will be happy for him he has worked so hard to improve his offense he would be a fine choice as would a ny of the guys I mentioned ...
LeBron has had a average season by his standards and i dont think he should win, but if he won i wouldn't give a fuck its a media award anyways

[DAF86]

Harden is legit, Russ is legit, Kl all are legit candidates...
And of course LeBron ...a case can be made for any of them not sure why Spur fan has to shit on the other great seasons, to prop up Leonard. If he wins i will be happy for him he has worked so hard to improve his offense he would be a fine choice as would a ny of the guys I mentioned ...
LeBron has had a average season by his standards and i dont think he should win, but if he won i wouldn't give a fuck its a media award anyways

Outside a few trolls, most Spurfans are just giving their opinions about why Kawhi should win it, not shitting on other candidates.

Saying the whole triple double thing, although still great, is a bit overrated is not shitting on other players' great seasons, imho.

[spurraider21]

:lol CN thinking giannis is a better candidate than harden

[Spurtacular]

The best two way player in the game leading his team to the best record should be a sure thing MVP. But the media will probably beat off to Russ's triple doubles, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

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[AlexJones]

It's retarded that LeBron won't win an MVP again. That Cavs team goes from #3 to #28 without him.

[djohn2oo8]

It's retarded that LeBron won't win an MVP again. That Cavs team goes from #3 to #28 without him.

You can rest in the east. Can't do that in the West. He will get one again.

[DAF86]

It's retarded that LeBron won't win an MVP again. That Cavs team goes from #3 to #28 without him.

Under that reasoning he should have won MVP non-stop for the past decade or so, tbh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Under that reasoning he should have won MVP non-stop for the past decade or so, tbh.
And there's nothing wrong with that...

[DAF86]

And there's nothing wrong with that...

There would be nothing wrong with that if that would have been the criteria used from the start but, since it wasn't, it's kind of unfair to change it now, tbh.

[SpursforSix]

I think Leonard's chances suffered significantly with this injury. After the Houston game, he had a lot of attention and a lot of eyes on him. Then had a subpar game vs OKC and got hurt. Then the epic GSW game that didn't happen.
And in the meantime, Russ and Hardin have had some monster games.

[spursistan]

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Speaking about "Harden burden"..Yeah, we now he is mailing it in playing on the other end, which happens to be half battle of game of basketball :lol..


An embarrassing defender..

[DAF86]

I think Leonard's chances suffered significantly with this injury. After the Houston game, he had a lot of attention and a lot of eyes on him. Then had a subpar game vs OKC and got hurt. Then the epic GSW game that didn't happen.
And in the meantime, Russ and Hardin have had some monster games.

If he plays from now on 'till the end of the season, and the Spurs finish with the 1st seed, he should get it, tbh.

[spursistan]

Can someone tell me: does Djohn2008 actually believe "Harden > Kawhi"? :lmao

I may see case for his MVP, but does he think he is a better player than Kawhi? :lol

[DAF86]

Can someone tell me: does Djohn2008 actually believe "Harden > Kawhi"? :lmao

I may see case for his MVP, but does he think he is a better player than Kawhi? :lol

He thinks guys like Paul George and Lamarcus Aldridge are better player than Kawhi, so yeah.

[SpursforSix]

If he plays from now on 'till the end of the season, and the Spurs finish with the 1st seed, he should get it, tbh.

Maybe. He'll have to keep playing like he was just before the injury though. And I'm still not sure that's enough for the voters.

[DAF86]

Maybe. He'll have to keep playing like he was just before the injury though. And I'm still not sure that's enough for the voters.

If the Spurs get the first seed, Kawhi would be:

-The best offensive player.
-The best defensive player.
-And the only all-star.

...of the best team in the regular season. If that's not enough to win the MVP then the voters should off themselves, tbh.

[SpursforSix]

If the Spurs get the first seed, Kawhi would be:

-The best offensive player.
-The best defensive player.
-And the only all-star.

...of the best team in the regular season. If that's not enough to win the MVP then the voters should off themselves, tbh.

I'm telling you...it's not enough. He's going to have to maintain a very high level of play for the rest of the season and have at least one more "oh shit" game like he did in Houston.
Although, if LMA is out for an extended period and they end up with the best record...maybe that'll give him some extra consideration.

[Joseph Kony]

weird season tbh, never seen such a close MVP race with each player having obvious negatives to their case

Russ - team is garbage, 7th seed
Harden - stats and team record but his defense is non-existent and everyone knows he is a trash defender, team is better overall than Thunder easily
Leonard - best record, solid PPG and %s but lacks the gaudy ast, reb #s of the first two
LeBron - probably the MVP in reality because it's Lebron, but his team is stacked regardless of them being shitty when he's out (more due to Lue being a terrible coach, imo) and his record is meh for being in the east and the type of roster he has

imo Harden is going to win it, unless Spurs can take the 1 spot and create some separation and Leonard goes HAM in the next meetings vs. GSW and Cavs

[spursistan]

The Spurs guard rotation is the rotation of guards that provides the least amount of pts in the entire NBA.

Kawhi has no reliable SF backup on the entire roster and no reliable second scorer.

I don't know if you want to call it trash or what, but that's pretty bad, tbh.

841373761064579073

Lol..they'r conveniently overlooking this fact..The Spurs guard situation is an embarrassment..

[Joseph Kony]

and as for westbrook, i'd be pretty shocked if he got it but also not surprised if thats possible. Shocked because his team and record isnt good and players with similar season in terms of value to their mediocre team didn't win (see: 2006 Kobe, hell even Oscar finished 3rd in voting his tripdub year) but not shocked due to the fact that "averaging a triple double" sounds sexy to mainstream tards as well as the narrative with Durant leaving

[spursistan]

On another note..Lebron MVP case is slipping with how badly the Cavs are playing even with him in the lineup and logging 40 minutes on the regular..They have been atrocious on the road this season and that middling record in East isn't going to cut...If Celtics gets the top seed, James is out of it..

[djohn2oo8]

If the Spurs get the first seed, Kawhi would be:

-The best offensive player.
-The best defensive player.
-And the only all-star.

...of the best team in the regular season. If that's not enough to win the MVP then the voters should off themselves, tbh.

Even with Kawhi s defense and offense, Harden is still worth more wins to his team than Kawhi is to his.I'll say it again so you can understand it. Harden even with his shitty defense is still worth more wins.

[DAF86]

Even with Kawhi s defense and offense, Harden is still worth more wins to his team than Kawhi is to his.I'll say it again so you can understand it. Harden even with his shitty defense is still worth more wins.

Just because you say it and "say it again so I can understand it" it won't make it true, tbh. Sorry but ever since you laghed at the idea of Kawhi being better than LMA I can't no longer take you seriously. It's clear that you, either don't watch enough games, or you don't have the ability to fully understand it. In any case, your opinion is as valid to me as cobbler's talking about comfortable shoes.

[djohn2oo8]

Just because you say it and "say it again so I can understand it" it won't make it true, tbh. Sorry but ever since you laghed at the idea of Kawhi being better than LMA I can't no longer take you seriously. It's clear that you, either don't watch enough games, or you don't have the ability to fully understand it. In any case, your opinion is as valid to me as cobbler (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12536)'s talking about comfortable shoes.
Nothing you said disputes that Harden is having a better season.

[FkLA]

AECuWJBq2CU

Hey dumbjohn, how did Kawhi's ass taste on March 6th?

[140]

AECuWJBq2CU

Hey dumbjohn, how did Kawhi's ass taste on March 6th?
:lmao

[140]

:cry it was just one game :cry

[FkLA]

:cry it was just one game :cry

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

AECuWJBq2CU

Hey dumbjohn, how did Kawhi's ass taste on March 6th?

Probably not like how the MVP trophy going to Harden will taste.

[spursistan]

AECuWJBq2CU

Hey dumbjohn, how did Kawhi's ass taste on March 6th?

:lmao..

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao..
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/james-harden-mvp-600x315.png?w=600&h=315

[DAF86]

^^ having to Photoshop that. :lol

[DAF86]

Meanwhile Kawhi with his usual 31, 5, 4 game to grab that 1st seed.

[Arcadian]

I don't care what the voters decide. Kawhi is the real MVP, and anyone who believes otherwise is a faggot.

[apalisoc_9]

If Kawhi doesnt win it at age 25, they might feel sorry enough to give it to him next year after another top 2 finish. Kawhi has a legit chance pf winning multiple MVPs and FMVP in hos career since it looks like the warriors shot themsleves in the foot with the Durant signing.

[apalisoc_9]

Also Harden is one of those guys that might win MVP but will be not be remebered in basketball hsitory ala Nash, Rose etc. :lol

Probably westbrook too. :lol

Speaking of MVPs. How did Lebron not win MVP in his return to celveland? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

I don't care what the voters decide. Kawhi is the real MVP, and anyone who believes otherwise is a faggot.
What makes him the MVP? Being assisted on 78% of his threes? Seem like Pop is the MVP over there.

[DAF86]

What makes him the MVP?

Being the best offensive player, best defensive player, and only all-star on the team with the best record in the league.

[DAF86]

An overachieving team at that.

[djohn2oo8]

Being the best offensive player, best defensive player, and only all-star on the team with the best record in the league.
And is being assisted a lot on his 3's, compared to Harden. Assisted more on his two's than Harden. Kawhi as of right now is not a playmaker. And is not tasked with creating for others.