Remember when people thought Fathead was a good player?

[dabom]

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

SAgirl still thinks he's a good player though

[dabom]

SAgirl still thinks he's a good player though

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/80/801943/2935022-0944129772-K7m5x.jpg

"He's still developing"

[BillMc]

A few people,have said he has really good defensive metrics. Is this true? (Fully admit I am too lazy to look it up.)

[skulls138]

Still do jerk off. :lol

[dabom]

A few people,have said he has really good defensive metrics. Is this true? (Fully admit I am too lazy to look it up.)

I watch games and I use stats. Dude has stone feet that gambles a lot, and can't win contested rebounds and is slow to react for other rebounds or just intangibles in general/hustle.

He rates average but would get exposed in a playoff setting. That's just his defense. His only marginal talent. :lol


Trust me, you don't want me going in on his offense. :lol

[YGWHI]

SAgirl still thinks he's a good player though

I still think that, too.

But I have to admit he doesn't work well with this team's dynamic.

[dabom]

Still do jerk off. :lol

:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I still think that, too.

But I have to admit he doesn't work well with this team's dynamic.

Let's compare Fat Head & Gaymond through age 23 (Kyle won't turn 24 until September): http://bkref.com/tiny/S4Wwo

If he ever could gain 20 lbs of muscle & knockdown 40% of his WIDE OPEN 3s::wow

[100%duncan]

Kyle Anderson: A+ He played a very good game, had a nice block which didn’t count, a very gutsy 1 rebound, and passed very well to Patty so he can shoot a fadeaway long 2. Overall a very good outing.

[Mnky]

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/80/801943/2935022-0944129772-K7m5x.jpg

"He's still developing"

Same group also declared Simmons too old to develop his first and second year...

[Brazil]

:lol Remember when O_V busted my ass for saying the day we drafted him that he will be a bust.... :lol

[superbigtime]

No.

Belongs in the Special Olympics.

[Chinook]

Dude came in and played incredible D for six minutes, and there's a thread lambasting him. Meanwhile, Kawhi got pulled aside by Pop for defensive miscues, and people can't even entertain the idea that he's not playing good D this year. Vintage ST.

[Cry Havoc]

:lol

Remember the days when you actually contributed as a poster instead of just talking shit and running a schtick?

Yeah, no one else does either. I don't get it. Do you need attention that badly that you're willing to make threads with the body of a single emoticon?

[sananspursfan21]

Played pretty well last night. Very active hands on defense.

[TDomination]

Truly, I'm still not sure what to think of Kyle. I'm rooting for him, I really like his arm length.

With his arm length, Kyle should be able to play the passing lanes very well. He did it a last night against Boston when he was out there. But it was only 6 minutes though. I want more of that.

[bklynspursfan]

Dude came in and played incredible D for six minutes, and there's a thread lambasting him. Meanwhile, Kawhi got pulled aside by Pop for defensive miscues, and people can't even entertain the idea that he's not playing good D this year. Vintage ST.

Defensive miscue(s) or a miscue? Kawhi was great defensively all night, but you're going to bring up the 1 issue he had? He kept his man Crowder pretty much non-existent, then once Bradley got going, Pop put him on Bradley and he got quiet. So to bring up 1 miscue is a stretch, when you consider how many minutes each of them played. Cherry picking big time man.

This isn't to hate on Anderson, I think he's an average defender with good length. He's not as good as you're claiming, and Kawhi isn't as bad as you're claiming.

[Seventyniner]

ST is just like politics. Narratives > facts.

[apalisoc_9]

Everyone knows chinook is a very anti Kawhi..He wanted kawhi to stand in the corner..look up his previous post.

Also wanted david west to start center this year.

[Chinook]

Everyone knows chinook is a very anti Kawhi..He wanted kawhi to stand in the corner..look up his previous post.

Also wanted david west to start center this year.

Lol, if you actually look up my posts, you'll see neither of those things. You see me saying that when Parker is in his old MVP-candidate mode that Kawhi should defer so he can attack off secondary penetration and that LMA should be the center and the Spurs should go cheap at PF (like West for the min) so they can spend their money on a guard.

Now people like you are bitching about the guard play and about Kawhi not getting help. Next thing you know, you're going to want Dedmon to start.

You, on the other hand, have countless threads full of shit like Kawhi's physical appearance and wanting him to chuck so he'd get MVP.

[Trueblood]

Remember the days when you actually contributed as a poster instead of just talking shit and running a schtick?

Yeah, no one else does either. I don't get it. Do you need attention that badly that you're willing to make threads with the body of a single emoticon?

+1

[Chinook]

He kept his man Crowder pretty much non-existent, then once Bradley got going, Pop put him on Bradley and he got quiet.

This assumes a pretty outdated view of the Spurs' D. No one guarded anyone one-on-one all night. The Celtics screening, and the Spurs kept switching. Kawhi made more than one mistake on switches, including two Crowder threes that weren't what got him pulled. You're totally right that Kawhi isn't a bad defender, not last night and not all year. The issue is that people will watch a game and then make shit up to fit their player-fandom.

Kyle got got a steal, blocked two shots and boarded twice in six minutes. He only got scored on once on a severe mismatch with no help. It was a great game. Meanwhile, people have to dive through hoops to explain why it's not Kawhi's fault that everyone plays better D when he's not on the court. I like Kawhi quite a bit and think he's a wonderful defender, which is why my hypothesis had nothing to do with him being bad on D.

[elemento]

I still believe in Fathead tbh

The last of the Mohicans

[TimDunkem]

lol Incredible defense? He got torched in those six minutes several times last night.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

lol Incredible defense? He got torched in those six minutes several times last night.

Uh no he didn't. No need to make things up.

[Cry Havoc]

lol Incredible defense? He got torched in those six minutes several times last night.

He was +3 with two rebounds. And I actually watched the game, so uh, no, he didn't get torched.

[dabom]

He was +3 with two rebounds. And I actually watched the game, so uh, no, he didn't get torched.

He got burnt on one drive and lost his assignments on one and actually blocked someone and had the rebound but was just too weak and got it wrestled away. That was just 1 minute I watched of him. :lol

[K...]

He got burnt on one drive and lost his assignments on one and actually blocked someone and had the rebound but was just too weak and got it wrestled away. That was just 1 minute I watched of him. :lol

Lies! ! ! Your attention span maxes out at 45 seconds on a good day.

Fathead is the player with fundamentals. He's a glue guy, does the little stuff. By definition he'll never be a star.

[TimDunkem]

You people are in denial. Rozier and others went around him 1-on-1 like a traffic cone. lmao

Can't wait until the guy gets cut after his contract is up so we don't have to talk about him anymore.

[Cry Havoc]

He got burnt on one drive and lost his assignments on one and actually blocked someone and had the rebound but was just too weak and got it wrestled away. That was just 1 minute I watched of him. :lol

Everyone gets burnt at times. And it was by Rozier, who's a rookie with a lot of upside. Not great, but I hardly call giving up 2 points "getting torched".

[sasaint]

Truly, I'm still not sure what to think of Kyle. I'm rooting for him, I really like his arm length.

With his arm length, Kyle should be able to play the passing lanes very well. He did it a last night against Boston when he was out there. But it was only 6 minutes though. I want more of that.

:toast I keep rooting for Kyle, and he seems to continually drop in the rotation. Perhaps I should stop rooting for the guy... :lol

Actually, I have come to believe that Kyle is a bad fit with this Spurs team. Perhaps it would be better for him AND the Spurs to trade him...

[apalisoc_9]

I'm huge analytics guy but its evident some peeps are just way too cute...:lol

[apalisoc_9]

This assumes a pretty outdated view of the Spurs' D. No one guarded anyone one-on-one all night. The Celtics screening, and the Spurs kept switching. Kawhi made more than one mistake on switches, including two Crowder threes that weren't what got him pulled. You're totally right that Kawhi isn't a bad defender, not last night and not all year. The issue is that people will watch a game and then make shit up to fit their player-fandom.

Kyle got got a steal, blocked two shots and boarded twice in six minutes. He only got scored on once on a severe mismatch with no help. It was a great game. Meanwhile, people have to dive through hoops to explain why it's not Kawhi's fault that everyone plays better D when he's not on the court. I like Kawhi quite a bit and think he's a wonderful defender, which is why my hypothesis had nothing to do with him being bad on D.

Everyone knows you wanted him to stick to 18ppg so Danny can get his 15ppg..Dont lie to yourself now boy.

[Chinook]

Everyone knows you wanted him to stick to 18ppg so Danny can get his 15ppg..Dont lie to yourself now boy.

Only you and other CoK followers would think that's an either/or. But if it makes you feel better, Kawhi was my first pick in fantasy, so I'd love him to go all Westbrook now from that standpoint. I just want the Spurs to win games more.

[SAGirl]

I still believe in Fathead tbh

The last of the Mohicans
:toast

I wanted to resist this troll bait.

I couldn't shame on me. lol

Actually doesn't matter. Merry Christmas all.

He will help when he gets chances. Ppl who think he doesn't do anything right just look for too many legs from the cat...

Spanish expression: "le buscan demasiadas patas al gato." If he wasn't impactful in any way whatsoever he wouldn't play for Pop, they wouldn't have picked up his option etc.

He has been too shy offensively, forever his problem apparently, but he's impactful on defense. Otherwise he wouldn't get play from Pop. The stats back that up. He just sniffs out plays and is good on help defense, kind of detects what the opponent is going to do next I guess. He has a good instincts rebounding, sort of tracks the ball well and can grab it with that length and anticipation and has has the length to bother passes and cause deflections etc. He has forever been too shy with his 3 ball and his shots... but he does some things at the NBA level.

ahhh guys have nothing better to do than to troll.

[apalisoc_9]

Oh here comes SAgirl...The poster that suddenly became a Manu and Simmons hater...And you wonder why? Its cause his boy Anderson is losing so much minutes with Manu and Simmons being the main minutes beneficiary.

I wouldnt trust her with a Manu or Simmons take even iif it meant my life.

[r0drig0lac]

Played pretty well last night. Very active hands on defense.

[dabom]

Oh here comes SAgirl...The poster that suddenly became a Manu and Simmons hater...And you wonder why? Its cause his boy Anderson is losing so much minutes with Manu and Simmons being the main minutes beneficiary.

I wouldnt trust her with a Manu or Simmons take even iif it meant my life.

:lol

[SAGirl]

Oh here comes SAgirl...The poster that suddenly became a Manu and Simmons hater...And you wonder why? Its cause his boy Anderson is losing so much minutes with Manu and Simmons being the main minutes beneficiary.

I wouldnt trust her with a Manu or Simmons take even iif it meant my life.

lol
You are always taking digs at me bc you are a strict kiwi fan and just like negative attention.. bc you still get attention.

[TimDunkem]

You really are ridiculous sometimes though. Manu and Simmons get more minutes because they're better players who bring more to the team. Fathead is an end of the bench player now for a reason.

[elemento]

:toast

I wanted to resist this troll bait.

I couldn't shame on me. lol

Actually doesn't matter. Merry Christmas all.

He will help when he gets chances. Ppl who think he doesn't do anything right just look for too many legs from the cat...

Spanish expression: "le buscan demasiadas patas al gato." If he wasn't impactful in any way whatsoever he wouldn't play for Pop, they wouldn't have picked up his option etc.

He has been too shy offensively, forever his problem apparently, but he's impactful on defense. Otherwise he wouldn't get play from Pop. The stats back that up. He just sniffs out plays and is good on help defense, kind of detects what the opponent is going to do next I guess. He has a good instincts rebounding, sort of tracks the ball well and can grab it with that length and anticipation and has has the length to bother passes and cause deflections etc. He has forever been too shy with his 3 ball and his shots... but he does some things at the NBA level.

ahhh guys have nothing better to do than to troll.

Not sure if you called the thread or the my post a troll bait, but I actually do believe in Kyle. I think we can probably find a few guys that still like him on the board.

And quite honestly, he only got this massive hate on the Spurs board because of your "love" for him. It became cool to hate him just to piss you off.

Cory Joseph wasn't better than Kyle in his 3rd year, but he didn't get 10% of the hate.

Harlem said something in some old thread and I actually agree with him : It would have been better for Kyle if he was actually drafted by a shit franchise that would give him more freedom to play and figure out how to be effective offensively in the NBA. We actually have to give him props for playing exactly the opposite way of his high school/college days.

Instead of being a ball-dominant offensive player, Kyle became a very good defensive player and he plays off the ball most of the time. Who would have guessed that ? Nobody really.

Kyle needs to stop hesitating to shoot the ball. It would help his game immensely if he had a decent 3p shot. Every time I watch him play, he seems afraid to screw up. With Joseph was the same deal until the 4th year. He only became a weapon late in his stint with the Spurs when he started to play more aggressive.

[palangi]

Dude came in and played incredible D for six minutes, and there's a thread lambasting him. Meanwhile, Kawhi got pulled aside by Pop for defensive miscues, and people can't even entertain the idea that he's not playing good D this year. Vintage ST.Can you tell us about Danny Green awesome defense though? I mean you did say it was irreplaceable?

[palangi]

Everyone gets burnt at times. And it was by Rozier, who's a rookie with a lot of upside. Not great, but I hardly call giving up 2 points "getting torched".Rozier is in his second year. Not a rookie

[SAGirl]

Not sure if you called the thread or the my post a troll bait, but I actually do believe in Kyle. I think we can probably find a few guys that still like him on the board.

And quite honestly, he only got this massive hate on the Spurs board because of your "love" for him. It became cool to hate him just to piss you off.

Cory Joseph wasn't better than Kyle in his 3rd year, but he didn't get 10% of the hate.

Harlem said something in some old thread and I actually agree with him : It would have been better for Kyle if he was actually drafted by a shit franchise that would give him more freedom to play and figure out how to be effective offensively in the NBA. We actually have to give him props for playing exactly the opposite way of his high school/college days.

Instead of being a ball-dominant offensive player, Kyle became a very good defensive player and he plays off the ball most of the time. Who would have guessed that ? Nobody really.

Kyle needs to stop hesitating to shoot the ball. It would help his game immensely if he had a decent 3p shot. Every time I watch him play, he seems afraid to screw up. With Joseph was the same deal until the 4th year. He only became a weapon late in his stint with the Spurs when he started to play more aggressive.
The thread is obviously the troll bait.
Sorry if that wasn't clear, I thought it was.
I actually only became an advocate for the player after guys were already trolling but it's possible it became cool to piss me off and it got magnified.
Some guys do enjoy the negative attention just a bit too much. The board is a magnet for a bit of antisocial behavior and you see it in all kind of mysoginist, homophobic, racitst, etc comments. You just got to have a thick skin or stay away.

Agree with you in everything else. I just wanted to reply to join in your support for the guy... but then I kept chatting about the comment about the trolling. I haven't taken you for a troll about this or any other opinions.
:tu

[offset formation]

I still believe in Fathead tbh

The last of the Mohicans

Yep. He can be a solid piece on this team. Needs some PT though to develop his consistency. Good defender in small ball lineup as the 4.

Needs to attack with the ball. I like him going to the rim.

[offset formation]

The thread is obviously the troll bait.
Sorry if that wasn't clear, I thought it was.
I actually only became an advocate for the player after guys were already trolling but it's possible it became cool to piss me off and it got magnified.
Some guys do enjoy the negative attention just a bit too much. The board is a magnet for a bit of antisocial behavior and you see it in all kind of mysoginist, homophobic, racitst, etc comments. You just got to have a thick skin or stay away.



Or call that behavior out with equal nastiness. That's what I've resorted to.

[SAGirl]

Or call that behavior out with equal nastiness. That's what I've resorted to.
Good for you!
I try not to be nasty... I have figured out by now that it's just not my style and it actually wears me out to go at someone who is hell bent on being antisocial or pedantic. I have on occasion gotten to that level and it has worn me out tremendously instead of the negative attention seeker who thrives in that I guess.
:toast

[ernest787]

SAGirl said he wouldn't play for Pop if he couldn't contribute. I guess 6 minutes is technically "playing" for Pop :lol

[tholdren]

Dude came in and played incredible D for six minutes, and there's a thread lambasting him. Meanwhile, Kawhi got pulled aside by Pop for defensive miscues, and people can't even entertain the idea that he's not playing good D this year. Vintage ST.
Chinook has always been a terrible poster

[tholdren]

The thread is obviously the troll bait.
Sorry if that wasn't clear, I thought it was.
I actually only became an advocate for the player after guys were already trolling but it's possible it became cool to piss me off and it got magnified.
Some guys do enjoy the negative attention just a bit too much. The board is a magnet for a bit of antisocial behavior and you see it in all kind of mysoginist, homophobic, racitst, etc comments. You just got to have a thick skin or stay away.

Agree with you in everything else. I just wanted to reply to join in your support for the guy... but then I kept chatting about the comment about the trolling. I haven't taken you for a troll about this or any other opinions.
:tu
or dont be a giant vag

[mywastedlife900]

You people are in denial. Rozier and others went around him 1-on-1 like a traffic cone. lmao

Can't wait until the guy gets cut after his contract is up so we don't have to talk about him anymore.

Yeah but why do you hate him? Really? He plays a game where the object is to put a leather ball through a metal rim.
Ultimately, Kyle will evolve into a good player when/if his confidence is up. He will make millions of dollars either way. You will just move along hating the next person. Someone who doesn't even know you exist. Lol

[Raven]

it's been about a month that his play has been pretty much flawless game in game out. He's a very good player to have.

[Spurs9]

I never thought so

[TimDunkem]

Yeah but why do you hate him? Really? He plays a game where the object is to put a leather ball through a metal rim.
Ultimately, Kyle will evolve into a good player when/if his confidence is up. He will make millions of dollars either way. You will just move along hating the next person. Someone who doesn't even know you exist. Lol

I don't hate anyone, tbh, so fuck you. :bobo

[tholdren]

too embarrassed to bump the draft thread?