Fake News

[mavsfan1000]

Definitely an issue in politics. This is a pretty good list of the fake news stuff.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fake%20news

[spurraider21]

:lol

but i'm not so sure you'd like definition 3

https://i.gyazo.com/1c39fa5a57afa864fe101a8772eff816.png

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I got no problem with fake news. More often then not it helps.

Dems started it. Instead of us taking up the good fight and looking like fools with our dick in our hand we read their book then went to work sharpening the process. Now? We're good at it. Damn good.

[boutons_deux]

Guess who's REALLY PISSED OFF, right? or left? about at attempt to stop FAKE NEWS? :lol

Conservatives Are Outraged Over Facebook’s Plan To Use Fact Checkers To Weed Out Fake News

A Republican Party and a conservative moment that has moved from facts to beliefs are outraged that Facebook would use a coalition of fact checkers in their effort to weed out fake news.

The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/15/facebook-using-unreliable-liberal-fact-checker-to-fight-fake-news/#ixzz4SwfA2WHz)was not pleased that Snopes is one of the fact checkers that Facebook has turned to,

Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/15/facebook-introduce-warning-labels-stories-deemed-fake-news/) claimed that the fact checkers are partisans, “Facebook has announced it will introduce warning labels on stories they deem to be “fake news,” with the help of partisan “fact checking” organisations such as Snopes and PolitiFact.”

The headline on the top of The Drudge Report (http://www.drudgereport.com/), “FAKEBOOK TO LABEL ‘NEWS'”

The reason why conservative media is so outraged is that they have been conditioned to distrust anything that doesn’t come from their own movement. Fox News built a cable news empire by selling their viewers the belief that Fox News is the only network that tells the truth.

conservatives brought this on themselves. Their complaints over what they believed to be biased from Facebook’s Newsfeed editors led to the dismissal of the editors, which allowed obviously fake news websites to game Facebook and launch viral stories full of false content.Conservative skepticism is understandable, but allegations of partisan bias are not.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/15/conservatives-outraged-facebooks-plan-fact-checkers-weed-fake-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

You bubbas, rednecks, shitkickers, Fox watchers, Breitbar devourers, Duck Dynasty beards shouldn't worry.

If FB stops your bullshit, you have plenty of other places to spew your lies, slander, hate.

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Guess who's REALLY PISSED OFF, right? or left? about at attempt to stop FAKE NEWS? :lol

Conservatives Are Outraged Over Facebook’s Plan To Use Fact Checkers To Weed Out Fake News

A Republican Party and a conservative moment that has moved from facts to beliefs are outraged that Facebook would use a coalition of fact checkers in their effort to weed out fake news.

The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/15/facebook-using-unreliable-liberal-fact-checker-to-fight-fake-news/#ixzz4SwfA2WHz)was not pleased that Snopes is one of the fact checkers that Facebook has turned to,

Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/15/facebook-introduce-warning-labels-stories-deemed-fake-news/) claimed that the fact checkers are partisans, “Facebook has announced it will introduce warning labels on stories they deem to be “fake news,” with the help of partisan “fact checking” organisations such as Snopes and PolitiFact.”

The headline on the top of The Drudge Report (http://www.drudgereport.com/), “FAKEBOOK TO LABEL ‘NEWS'”

The reason why conservative media is so outraged is that they have been conditioned to distrust anything that doesn’t come from their own movement. Fox News built a cable news empire by selling their viewers the belief that Fox News is the only network that tells the truth.

conservatives brought this on themselves. Their complaints over what they believed to be biased from Facebook’s Newsfeed editors led to the dismissal of the editors, which allowed obviously fake news websites to game Facebook and launch viral stories full of false content.Conservative skepticism is understandable, but allegations of partisan bias are not.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/15/conservatives-outraged-facebooks-plan-fact-checkers-weed-fake-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

You bubbas, rednecks, shitkickers, Fox watchers, Breitbar devourers, Duck Dynasty beards shouldn't worry.

If FB stops your bullshit, you have plenty of other places to spew your lies, slander, hate.





We'll see how long they stay that course when there is no $ coming back for it.

[Reck]

We'll see how long they stay that course when there is no $ coming back for it.

LOL thinking this will affect them economically.

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LOL thinking this will affect them economically.

That's what I'm sayin'...there is no $ in doing what they claim they will do. It's all goodwill. That's for shit. I'll give it 6 months, tops.

[Chucho]

Nobody did the fake news better than Norm McDonald.

[boutons_deux]

Alex Jones Threatens To Sue Facebook Over New Initiative To Fight Fake News, Which He Claims Is A CIA Plot


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/15/alex-jones-threatens-sue-facebook-over-new-initiative-fight-fake-news-which-he-claims-cia-plot/214834?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

[Clipper Nation]

MediaMatters = fake news.

[Axl Rose]

It's a way for them to silence anything that goes against the msm narrative, just denounce it as fake and have snopes rubber stamp it. Then the msm regains their monopoly on information. Leftists and right wingers alike will flag content they don't like, but only breitbart and drudge will be censored

[Mitch]

CNN is 100% fake news, tbh. Dating all the way back to and before Bush 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

[Nbadan]

Seems appropriate...

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5446619369bedd2b5b3ecd67-800-/pj_14.10.21_mediapolarization-01.png

[spurraider21]

CNN is 100% fake news, tbh. Dating all the way back to and before Bush 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg
:sleep

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.t1140/

[mavsfan1000]

I got no problem with fake news. More often then not it helps.

Dems started it. Instead of us taking up the good fight and looking like fools with our dick in our hand we read their book then went to work sharpening the process. Now? We're good at it. Damn good.
True. I got no problem with the Conservative Fake News. And the liberal meltdown fake news is quite comical. Just as long as people can tell the difference.

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Sue Ansbach Salvesen (https://www.facebook.com/sue.ansbachsalvesen)

"Do you also blame the Clinton team for promoting Trump over the other 16 clowns? This can be easily found if you bother to read wikileaks. Clinton wanted Trump to be on MSM news outlets. She thought he would be the easiest of the clowns to beat. Boy, were she and her cronies ever wrong."

Food for thought.

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What the hell happened to this place? Nobody here anymore. Did somebody die? Did somebody lose money? Did somebody get her broad ass handed to her by The Trumpster?

Oh, The Trumpster. He's in Florida tonite.

[mavsfan1000]

What the hell happened to this place? Nobody here anymore. Did somebody die? Did somebody lose money? Did somebody get her broad ass handed to her by The Trumpster?

Oh, The Trumpster. He's in Florida tonite.
The funeral to Socialistic dreams.

[Chris]

:sleep

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.t1140/

That link doesn't debunk anything. If you watched that footage and didn't think those fellows were putting on a show then you're a sucker. How about that actress they hired spouting atrocities like leaving babies on the floor to die? Guess what - it worked; Americans were outraged and the precedent for war was set.

[Mitch]

:sleep

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.t1140/

Helmet for a chemical attack, let that sink in.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Guess who's REALLY PISSED OFF, right? or left? about at attempt to stop FAKE NEWS? :lol

Conservatives Are Outraged Over Facebook’s Plan To Use Fact Checkers To Weed Out Fake News

A Republican Party and a conservative moment that has moved from facts to beliefs are outraged that Facebook would use a coalition of fact checkers in their effort to weed out fake news.

The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/15/facebook-using-unreliable-liberal-fact-checker-to-fight-fake-news/#ixzz4SwfA2WHz)was not pleased that Snopes is one of the fact checkers that Facebook has turned to,

Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/15/facebook-introduce-warning-labels-stories-deemed-fake-news/) claimed that the fact checkers are partisans, “Facebook has announced it will introduce warning labels on stories they deem to be “fake news,” with the help of partisan “fact checking” organisations such as Snopes and PolitiFact.”

The headline on the top of The Drudge Report (http://www.drudgereport.com/), “FAKEBOOK TO LABEL ‘NEWS'”

The reason why conservative media is so outraged is that they have been conditioned to distrust anything that doesn’t come from their own movement. Fox News built a cable news empire by selling their viewers the belief that Fox News is the only network that tells the truth.

conservatives brought this on themselves. Their complaints over what they believed to be biased from Facebook’s Newsfeed editors led to the dismissal of the editors, which allowed obviously fake news websites to game Facebook and launch viral stories full of false content.Conservative skepticism is understandable, but allegations of partisan bias are not.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/15/conservatives-outraged-facebooks-plan-fact-checkers-weed-fake-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

You bubbas, rednecks, shitkickers, Fox watchers, Breitbar devourers, Duck Dynasty beards shouldn't worry.

If FB stops your bullshit, you have plenty of other places to spew your lies, slander, hate.





George Soros is funding it. Will not be unbiased fact checking.

http://www.poynter.org/about-the-international-fact-checking-network/

[spurraider21]

what exactly are you claiming is fake about that broadcast? are they not in saudi arabia? are they using a green screen? what exactly is the allegation?

[spurraider21]

i have no problem with "fake news' if its satirical or parody. i also recognize that legitimate reporters and journalists can come to factually incorrect conclusions, and as long as they issue a retraction and acknowledge the error, it's fine.

but when "news" is blatantly false and pushed around as true, i dont see the benefit of that. all you do is misinform people who use that to make a decision... and i'd argue that an uninformed decision is not a legitimate decision to begin with

[boutons_deux]

George Soros is funding it. Will not be unbiased fact checking.

http://www.poynter.org/about-the-international-fact-checking-network/

Kock Bros, Mercers, Coors, DeVos, etc fund 100s of orgs, illegal super PACs, illegal 501 orgs, including ALEC, but you have no problem with VRWC funding?

Only Soros, the nemesis the VWRC had dictated you rightwingnutjobs to hate, could possible be subverting the truth, right?

[Clipper Nation]

^ Boutards, defending foreign interference in our political process. ^

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OT:::But all hell is breaking loose in the NC as the legislature tries to strip power from the incoming Democrat governor. Protesters have besieged the state house. I saw one sign that read:::"This is why we can't have nice things."

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Winehole23]

The world order we live in was born in 1979 or 1980, with Thatcher and Reagan. It made a few core promises:



If the rich have more money, they will create more jobs;
Lower taxes will lead to more prosperity;
Increases in housing and stock market prices will increase prosperity for everyone;
Trade deals and globalization will make everyone better off.

[Winehole23]

These core promises all turned out to be lies. It’s that simple. For most of the population, the last 40-odd years were either an experience of stagnation, or an experience of decline.
Understand clearly, by 79 people had lost faith in the post-WWII order. They were willing to try something new.

That order has now betrayed too many people, and it is falling. It will continue to fall. We are in the twilight of Neoliberalism (longer article on that later.)

But this is why people are going for “fake news”. This is why people are willing to listen to demagogues. This is why people don’t trust the press (why should they, the press lied to them repeatedly, it is the original fake news). This is why they don’t listen when hundreds of economists say Brexit is bad (why should they, most economists missed the housing bubble.)

Neoliberalism has discredited everyone who bought in to it. Who didn’t buy into it? Well, the hard left and what people are now calling the “alt-right”.

So people are turning in those directions, though more to the right. Because people are ideologically and identity driven, and most are not intellectuals, what they look for are signifiers that someone is not like the people who screwed them, who lied to them for 40 years.

Trump does not talk like those people. Farrage does not talk like those people. On the left, Corbyn does not talk like those people and to a large extent, neither did Sanders.

And so they are turning to people who don’t parse like the regular type of elite. Many of those people are also selling them a bill of goods (Trump, to a large extent), or are nasty pieces of work (Trump, Alt-Right), but that doesn’t matter to a lot of people: they can’t take the pain any more; the assured long decline and they will take a flyer on anyone who might shake things up.http://www.ianwelsh.net/the-lies-at-the-heart-of-our-dying-order/

[Winehole23]

Lie repeatedly, fail to keep your promises, and things like Trump and Brexit will happen. It is that simple.

[Winehole23]

“The existence of an independent, powerful, widely respected news media establishment is an historical anomaly,” Georgetown Professor Jonathan Ladd wrote in his 2011 book, Why Americans Hate the Media and How it Matters. “Prior to the twentieth century, such an institution had never existed in American history.” Fake news is but one symptom of that shift back to historical norms, and recent hyperventilating mimics reactions from eras past.http://www.cjr.org/special_report/fake_news_history.php

[Winehole23]

fact-checking perhaps the most untruthful candidate of our lifetime didn’t work; the more news outlets did it, the less the facts resonated

[DMC]

Every time I hear about fake news I think Connie Chung.

[HI-FI]

It's eerie how the MSM and the gov all started pushing the "fake news" meme at the same time, it's all been coordinated.

[Spurminator]

It's eerie how the MSM and the gov all started pushing the "fake news" meme at the same time, it's all been coordinated.

The only weird thing about it is that it took so long. The election of an actual buffoon, in large part because of fake news, is what amplified the topic.

Strangely, though, only one side seems to be concerned that this is suddenly a topic of conversation. Wonder why.

[CosmicCowboy]

The only weird thing about it is that it took so long. The election of an actual buffoon, in large part because of fake news, is what amplified the topic.

Strangely, though, only one side seems to be concerned that this is suddenly a topic of conversation. Wonder why.

What fake news was responsible for electing Trump? Be specific. Back up your claim.

[HI-FI]

The only weird thing about it is that it took so long. The election of an actual buffoon, in large part because of fake news, is what amplified the topic.

Strangely, though, only one side seems to be concerned that this is suddenly a topic of conversation. Wonder why.
Strange how Dems don't care about the truth bombs in those Wikileaks. Wonder why.
Besides, my problem is how they all use the "fake news" buzzword like robots. This is some Orwellian shit.

[Spurminator]

What fake news was responsible for electing Trump? Be specific. Back up your claim.

The top 20 fake news stories from August through Election Day generated more engagements (and therefore likely more impressions) via Facebook than the top 20 real news stories in the same date range.



Story
Publication
FB Engagements


Pope Francis Shocks World, Endorses Donald Trump for President, Releases Statement (http://endingthefed.com/pope-francis-shocks-world-endorses-donald-trump-for-president-releases-statement.html)
Ending the Fed
960,000


WikiLeaks CONFIRMS Hillary Sold Weapons to ISIS... Then Drops Another BOMBSHELL! Breaking News (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-confirms-hillary-sold-weapons-isis-drops-another-bombshell-breaking-news/)
The Political Insider
789,000


IT’S OVER: Hillary’s ISIS Email Just Leaked & It’s Worse Than Anyone Could Have Imagined (http://endingthefed.com/its-over-hillarys-isis-email-just-leaked-its-worse-than-anyone-could-have-imagined.html)
Ending The Fed
754,000


Just Read the Law: Hillary is Disqualified from Holding Any Federal Office (http://endingthefed.com/just-read-the-law-hillary-is-disqualified-from-holding-any-federal-office.html)
Ending The Fed
701,000


FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead in Apparent Murder-Suicide (http://denverguardian.com/2016/11/05/fbi-agent-suspected-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-apparent-murder-suicide/)
Denver Guardian
567,000


FBI director received millions from Clinton Foundation, his brother’s law firm does Clinton’s taxes (http://endingthefed.com/fbi-director-received-millions-from-clinton-foundation-his-brothers-law-firm-does-clintons-taxes.html)
Ending The Fed
538,000


ISIS Leader Calls for American Muslim Voters to Support Hillary Clinton (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/isis-leader-calls-for-american-muslim-voters-to-support-hillary-clinton/)
World News Daily Report
522,000


Hillary Clinton In 2013: “I Would Like To See People Like Donald Trump Run For Office; They’re Honest And Can’t Be Bought” (http://conservativestate.com/hillary-clinton-2013-like-see-people-like-donald-trump-run-office-theyre-honest-cant-bought/)
Conservative State
481,000


BREAKING: Fraudulent Clinton Votes Discovered By The “Tens Of Thousands” (http://endingthefed.com/breaking-fraudulent-clinton-votes-discovered-by-the-tens-of-thousands.html)
Ending The Fed
462,000


President Obama Confirms He Will Refuse To Leave Office If Trump Is Elected (http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/obama-refusing-to-leave-if-trump-elected/)
Burrard Street Journal
379,000


Donald Trump Protester Speaks Out: "I Was Paid $3,500 To Protest Trump's Rally" - ABC News (http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/)
abcnews.com.co (http://abcnews.com.co/obama-executive-order-bans-pledge-of-allegiance-in-schools/)
376,000


Pentagon Officials Furious After Clinton Announces US Response Time for Nuclear Launch During Debate (http://libertynews.com/2016/10/pentagon-officials-furious-after-clinton-announces-us-response-time-for-nuclear-launch-during-debate/)
Liberty News
338,000


Hillary’s Email Case Got Reopened And James Comey Asked For Immunity. Trey Gowdy Says Hell No. (http://www.yesimright.com/hillarys-email-case-got-reopened-and-james-comey-asked-for-immunity-trey-gowdy-says-hell-no/)
Yes I'm Right
295,000


Hey Hillary, thanks for telling the world America’s response time for a nuclear launch (http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/10/19/hey-hillary-thanks-for-telling-the-world-americas-response-time-for-a-nuclear-launch/)
Twitchy
290,000


Rupaul claims Trump touched him inappropriately in the 1990s (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/rupaul-claims-trump-touched-him-inappropriately-in-the-1990s/)
World News Daily Report
285,000


Billy Graham Issues STUNNING Statement on Donald Trump…No One Expected THIS! - World Politicus (http://worldpoliticus.com/2016/10/17/billy-graham-issues-stunning-statement-donald-trumpno-one-expected/)
World Politic US
260,000


Pence: “Michelle Obama Is The Most Vulgar First Lady We’ve Ever Had” (http://usanewsflash.com/pence-michelle-obama-vulgar-first-lady-weve-ever/)
USA Newsflash
246,000


Clinton Cash: Khizr Khan’s Deep Legal, Financial Connections to Saudi Arabia, Hillary’s Clinton Foundation Tie Terror, Immigration, Email Scandals Together (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/01/clinton-cash-khizr-khans-deep-legal-financial-connections-saudi-arabia-hillarys-clinton-foundation-connect-terror-immigration-email-scandals/)
Breitbart
167,000


Thousands Of Fake Ballot Slips Found Marked For Hillary Clinton! TRUMP WAS RIGHT!! (http://donaldtrumpnews.co/news/thousands-fake-ballot-slips-found-marked-hillary-clinton-trump-right/)
Donald Trump News
152,000


BREAKING: Hillary Clinton To Be Indicted… Your Prayers Have Been Answered (http://worldpoliticus.com/2016/11/01/breaking-hillary-clinton-indicted-prayers-answered/)
World Politic US
149,000

[Spurminator]

Strange how Dems don't care about the truth bombs in those Wikileaks. Wonder why.

Depends on which "truth bombs." Seeing as Wasserman-Shultz was forced out of her DNC post because of the leaks, I'd say Dems showed more concern than you give them credit for.


Besides, my problem is how they all use the "fake news" buzzword like robots. This is some Orwellian shit.

"Fake News" literally describes what they're talking about. Not sure why the phrase bothers you so much. It's not the same kind of buzz phrase as, say, "Crooked Hillary" or "Drill Baby Drill."

[Wild Cobra]

Depends on which "truth bombs." Seeing as Wasserman-Shultz was forced out of her DNC post because of the leaks, I'd say Dems showed more concern than you give them credit for.



"Fake News" literally describes what they're talking about. Not sure why the phrase bothers you so much. It's not the same kind of buzz phrase as, say, "Crooked Hillary" or "Drill Baby Drill."
1984 is what the demonrats are striving for.

[Spurminator]

What fake news was responsible for electing Trump? Be specific. Back up your claim.

For the record I don't think fake news is solely responsible for the election of Trump but in an election this close, any one variable could have made the difference.

[Axl Rose]

The only weird thing about it is that it took so long. The election of an actual buffoon, in large part because of fake news, is what amplified the topic.

Strangely, though, only one side seems to be concerned that this is suddenly a topic of conversation. Wonder why.
Eh the msm made a living out of fake news for decades, this is all coordinated. What they really mean is that only they are supposed to have a monopoly on information

[Axl Rose]

Fake news has been winning elections for quite a while now, they just don't like it when its employed against them. It's just someone else's perception of an event versus their (MSM) side of the story

[Spurminator]

Fake news has been winning elections for quite a while now, they just don't like it when its employed against them. It's just someone else's perception of an event versus their (MSM) side of the story

We're not talking about biased perspectives, we're talking about fabricated stories.

When the MSM fabricates a story, that fabrication becomes a bigger story and people get fired.

[Axl Rose]

We're not talking about biased perspectives, we're talking about fabricated stories.

When the MSM fabricates a story, that fabrication becomes a bigger story and people get fired.
Lol no sorry they're not that trustworthy and self regulatory. They put out blatantly false stuff all the time. Remember when trump "kicked a crying baby and her mother out of a rally" except it didn't happen? Remember when the rebels were "moderate" until they were al nusra and al qaeda? Clinton people claiming they saw things in Wikileaks that were fabricated and media runnng with it, list goes on

[Wild Cobra]

Fake news has been winning elections for quite a while now, they just don't like it when its employed against them. It's just someone else's perception of an event versus their (MSM) side of the story

Fake news has also dumbed-down most of the US population. Too bad people don't demand proper journalism these days.

[Spurminator]

Lol no sorry they're not that trustworthy and self regulatory. They put out blatantly false stuff all the time. Remember when trump "kicked a crying baby and her mother out of a rally" except it didn't happen?

I remember MSM reporting the real version of that incident after the typical Jezebel-type liberal sites played up the clickbaity version of the incident.


Remember when the rebels were "moderate" until they were al nusra and al qaeda?

You'll have to link this one, I'm not familiar.


Clinton people claiming they saw things in Wikileaks that were fabricated and media runnng with it

I remember the Media reporting on the emails of Wikileaks. I do not recall the Media reporting, as fact, that any of the emails were faked, despite the Clinton campaign's quotes.

[in2deep]

YWashington Post has been the leader of fake news in 2016

i doubt they will get dethroned in 2017

[in2deep]

Biggest fake news in the last few years:
- saddam has wmds
- bengazi was due to a youtube video
- assad gassed his peopl
- syrian rebels are moderate opposition
- ghadaffi will massacre his people if we dont bomb
him
- trump will start ww3
- russia influenced election
- hillary would have won if not for russia

funny all these were originated from US government or MSM

[spurraider21]

-death panels
-you can keep your doctor

[in2deep]

Another 2 classic:
- the nuke bombs on Japan spared MILLIONS of lives
- the US defeated the nazis in ww2

[in2deep]

Truth is fake news have been around since the beginnings of time. Its laughable that MSM and US are claiming this is something recent

[TheSanityAnnex]

Truth is fake news have been around since the beginnings of time. Its laughable that MSM and US are claiming this is something recent
https://www.google.us/trends/explore?date=today%2012-m&q=pizzagate,fake%20news

[Spurminator]

Its laughable that MSM and US are claiming this is something recent

Are they?

[Chris]

Check out CNN cutting the feeds and blaming it on technical difficulties when someone was either pro-Trump or anti-Clinton. Guy at the end starts talking about good ol Bill's sexcapades and gets shouted down immediately.

-0_zOgLlWHM

[Chucho]

Another 2 classic:
- the nuke bombs on Japan spared MILLIONS of lives
- the US defeated the nazis in ww2


The US did defeat the Nazis. The Brits weren't going to. At all. We quite literally saved the existence of Britain. Don't get it twisted with the myth that the Russians beat Germany. The Allies put all the foundational cracks and then Hitler's meth addiction finished them off with the help of the Russian winter. The Red Army was good at spreading the propaganda when they came in for the crumbs.

And the bombs in Hiroshima didn't save millions, but definitely tens of thousands of American soldiers. Sucks it happened a second time, but American history's greatest villains of the last hundred years were 80% Democrats. They just LOVE killing people under the guise of something else.

Truman
FDR
LBJ
Obama
W. Bush

All are lying war criminals and committed crimes against humanity. Obama just happens to be the most lackadaisical and the worst at covering his tracks. But then again, he's a dumb, lazy, thieving jig...

[hater]

The US did defeat the Nazis. The Brits weren't going to. At all. We quite literally saved the existence of Britain. Don't get it twisted with the myth that the Russians beat Germany. The Allies put all the foundational cracks and then Hitler's meth addiction finished them off with the help of the Russian winter. The Red Army was good at spreading the propaganda when they came in for the crumbs.

And the bombs in Hiroshima didn't save millions, but definitely tens of thousands of American soldiers. Sucks it happened a second time, but American history's greatest villains of the last hundred years were 80% Democrats. They just LOVE killing people under the guise of something else.

Truman
FDR
LBJ
Obama
W. Bush

All are lying war criminals and committed crimes against humanity. Obama just happens to be the most lackadaisical and the worst at covering his tracks. But then again, he's a dumb, lazy, thieving jig...

the US beat the Nazis is the biggest propaganda bullshit in modern history

The Nazis threw everything including the kitchen sink in Russia. Hitler made the mistake of trying to take over Russia and defeat Stalin over taking over rest of Europe.

On the western front, the Nazis sent mostly children to fight. while sending their most ruthless fighters to the East.

Nazis Killed by Soviet Union
3,772,297

Nazis Killed by EVERYONE ELSE including US
735,340

there were 607 Nazi divisions destroyed on the Soviet-German front, which was three-quarters of the whole fascist army


it's not even close tbqh

[DMC]

You folks are confusing propaganda with fake news.

Fake news is just making up a sensational story and getting it going. It's not really news until the news media grabs and runs with it. Prior to that it's just yap on a facebook post. Propaganda is a bending of the truth or adding/hiding crucial details of a situation to influence trust or sow discord, which ever you need as a government.

[DMC]

the US beat the Nazis is the biggest propaganda bullshit in modern history

The Nazis threw everything including the kitchen sink in Russia. Hitler made the mistake of trying to take over Russia and defeat Stalin over taking over rest of Europe.

On the western front, the Nazis sent mostly children to fight. while sending their most ruthless fighters to the East.

Nazis Killed by Soviet Union
3,772,297

Nazis Killed by EVERYONE ELSE including US
735,340

there were 607 Nazi divisions destroyed on the Soviet-German front, which was three-quarters of the whole fascist army


it's not even close tbqh

Like how Tony scored those 17 or so points after missing 11 shots in a row when the Spurs were up 25 or something stupid in game 5 of the 2014 NBA Finals?

[Thread]

Like how Tony scored those 17 or so points after missing 11 shots in a row when the Spurs were up 25 or something stupid in game 5 of the 2014 NBA Finals?

They were selling your shit.

[DMC]

They were selling your shit.

It was legit then.

[in2deep]

You folks are confusing propaganda with fake news.

Fake news is just making up a sensational story and getting it going. It's not really news until the news media grabs and runs with it. Prior to that it's just yap on a facebook post. Propaganda is a bending of the truth or adding/hiding crucial details of a situation to influence trust or sow discord, which ever you need as a government.

Disagree. Propaganda is a massive number of fake news/stories on a given subject to bend public opinion.

Sure it's a large number but in the end, it's fake news as well. So they are one and the same

[DMC]

Disagree. Propaganda is a massive number of fake news/stories on a given subject to bend public opinion.

Sure it's a large number but in the end, it's fake news as well. So they are one and the same

Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded messages or "loaded language" to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[2] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups and companies can also produce propaganda.

Straight from Wiki.

Compare that to "Hoax" which is what fake news really is. Spreading it faster doesn't make it propaganda.

Bill Clinton is Dead: Hoax

Bill Clinton was seen favoring his right side while walking, suggesting a medical issue.: propaganda

[in2deep]

Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded messages or "loaded language" to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[2] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups and companies can also produce propaganda.

Straight from Wiki.

Compare that to "Hoax" which is what fake news really is. Spreading it faster doesn't make it propaganda.

Bill Clinton is Dead: Hoax

Bill Clinton was seen favoring his right side while walking, suggesting a medical issue.: propaganda


Completely wrong. Fake news is a new term created by the propaganda machine, it's an invented term thus has no real meaning. It's an alias to propaganda in reality.

The US is accusing Russia of propaganda. Which is pretty stupid given all countries rely on their propaganda machines. Especially USA

If you rely think of it fake news is just a child of propaganda because the propaganda machine created it

[Spurminator]

Completely wrong. Fake news is a new term created by the propaganda machine, it's an invented term thus has no real meaning.

Maybe the way you're used to using it, but that would mean you're wrong. I posted an entire list of fake news stories that can be accurately described as fake news.

It's not a hard concept. A completely fabricated story is fake news.

[DMC]

Completely wrong. Fake news is a new term created by the propaganda machine, it's an invented term thus has no real meaning. It's an alias to propaganda in reality.

The US is accusing Russia of propaganda. Which is pretty stupid given all countries rely on their propaganda machines. Especially USA

If you rely think of it fake news is just a child of propaganda because the propaganda machine created it

Ok Wiki is completely wrong.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Propaganda and fake news are hardly mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary.

Propaganda is certainly noted for its use of fake news. Not all fake news is for the purpose of propaganda. This should not be hard.

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It was legit then.

That's what I said.

[in2deep]

Ok Wiki is completely wrong.

Wouldnt b the first time

[in2deep]

Propaganda and fake news are hardly mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary.

Propaganda is certainly noted for its use of fake news. Not all fake news is for the purpose of propaganda. This should not be hard.

agree. My point was that, fake news is a subset of propaganda

but fake news used by the current MSM is propaganda in itself. They are basically bombarding us with the meme "dont listen to them, listen to only us" and they are relabeling it as fake news

[in2deep]

Maybe the way you're used to using it, but that would mean you're wrong. I posted an entire list of fake news stories that can be accurately described as fake news.

It's not a hard concept. A completely fabricated story is fake news.

its a fact Clinton campaign/foundation is partly funded by Saudi, then that would take some of your listed items off the fake news list. Add a few other facts and many of ur items then dont qualify as fake news.

disagree btw. Washington post posted a list of "fake news" sites and many of them write articles with verifiable facts.

[RandomGuy]

its a fact Clinton campaign/foundation is partly funded by Saudi, then that would take some of your listed items off the fake news list. Add a few other facts and many of ur items then dont qualify as fake news.

disagree btw. Washington post posted a list of "fake news" sites and many of them write articles with verifiable facts.

"verifiable facts" doesn't make a website credible.

The following paragraph contains a verifiable fact.


"It is cold outside. This is because my cat is bored, and has magic powers to make it cold when it is bored, so I will spend more time playing with it."


Is the above paragraph credible or not, because of the verifiable fact it contains? Or is something else going on? If so, what is that?

[in2deep]

"verifiable facts" doesn't make a website credible.

The following paragraph contains a verifiable fact.

"It is cold outside. This is because my cat is bored, and has magic powers to make it cold when it is bored, so I will spend more time playing with it."


Is the above paragraph credible or not, because of the verifiable fact it contains? Or is something else going on? If so, what is that?

Was responding to the user saying fake news are based on sero facts.

washington post has been posting fake news such as Russians hacked US power grid but they were based on some facts. The fact that an old laptop had Russian malware.

so thats a verifiable fact but does not make Washington Post story credible, yet it is still fake news

[DMC]

Propaganda and fake news are hardly mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary.

Propaganda is certainly noted for its use of fake news. Not all fake news is for the purpose of propaganda. This should not be hard.

No one said they were mutually exclusive. They aren't one and the same. WMDs in Iraq isn't fake news. If it wasn't true, it was propaganda.

[DMC]

Was responding to the user saying fake news are based on sero facts.

washington post has been posting fake news such as Russians hacked US power grid but they were based on some facts. The fact that an old laptop had Russian malware.

so thats a verifiable fact but does not make Washington Post story credible, yet it is still fake news

Wrong. Fake news is "Russian plane found on Mars". False conclusions from factual reports aren't the same as fake news, just poor, speculative analysis. If the Russian hacking claim was fake news, you'd have to know the truth to realize it. You were able to glean that the article/s are speculation biased toward certain confirmation just by reading the article. That's more along the lines of propaganda.

[boutons_deux]

"If it wasn't true, it was propaganda."

it was a criminal lie

[DMC]

"If it wasn't true, it was propaganda."

it was a lie




You really don't know. There are plenty who would disagree with you, plenty smarter than you (some dead now however) like Christopher Hitchens, certainly not a repug.

[in2deep]

Wrong. Fake news is "Russian plane found on Mars". False conclusions from factual reports aren't the same as fake news, just poor, speculative analysis. If the Russian hacking claim was fake news, you'd have to know the truth to realize it. You were able to glean that the article/s are speculation biased toward certain confirmation just by reading the article. That's more along the lines of propaganda.

Sonthe WaPo article was propaganda? Sure I dont disagree with that.

what I disagree is your definition of Fake News. Nothing wrong with it btw, but its your own definition

the MSM's definition is different since they label partly factual articles as fake news. That does not go along with your definition and thats ok. But again to get in the conversation you probably need to adjust your definition

[spurraider21]

Sonthe WaPo article was propaganda? Sure I dont disagree with that.

what I disagree is your definition of Fake News. Nothing wrong with it btw, but its your own definition

the MSM's definition is different since they label partly factual articles as fake news. That does not go along with your definition and thats ok. But again to get in the conversation you probably need to adjust your definition:lmao probably

[DMC]

I like a lot of the stuff he said about religion and a few other things but he seemed to be a sophist when he talked about the 9/11 attacks.

How to Deal with a "truther" - Christopher Hitchens style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNAaDKZ-SuE

This info was available when he was alive and he was no moron.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261123&p=8610878&viewfull=1#post8610878

He was either a paid shill, or some goons from the government paid him a visit and made him an offer he couldn't refuse.


Some goons from the governmnt probably paid Noam Chomsky a visit as he's no moron.

The Shame of Noam Chomsky & left gatekeepers: Zwicker (#3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU


I doubt he's a sleeper shill as a lot of people think because his works have been devastating to the government.
https://chomsky.info/

I doubt they'd let one of their shills go as far as he's gone.



I never address your vomit but anyone who thinks the Bush admin was crafty enough to orchestrate 9/11 but too stupid to plant WMDs in Iraq given free reign of the country is pretty fucking stupid.

[boutons_deux]

Paranoia, fantasies in America made GB a multi-millionaire


Glenn Beck Decries The Spread Of ‘Fake News’ By Spreading False Information
Beck bizarrely decided to use the whole story to push his own false claims, including falsely alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center had called Religious Right psuedo-historian David Barton, who happens to be one of Beck’s closest friends, a “terrorist.”
Beck falsely claimed that the SPLC and the Council on American-Islamic Relations were the source of the false story, when, in reality, it was the young woman herself (http://abc7ny.com/news/cops-drunk-men-call-muslim-woman-terrorist-yell-trump-in-subway/1636586/) who reported the fabricated incident to the police; CAIR and the SPLC were simply quoted in a news report about the alleged attack.
The fact that CAIR and the SPLC were the sources for this claim, Beck said, should have been a dead giveaway that it was fake since, he said, CAIR “was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorist trial,” while the SPLC “recently named David Barton a terrorist!”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/glenn-beck-decries-the-spread-of-fake-news-by-spreading-false-information/

[DMC]

^You're completely ate up with this shit. Are you by chance muslim?

[Thread]

^Speakin' of Beck,,,whatever happened to Bob Bechel? I hated the fucker, but, loved the way he trolled "us." Him & Begalla drove me about mad. Now, I'm ready to hunt Begalla. That SOB has me snortin' every night.

[boutons_deux]

^You're completely ate up with this shit. Are you by chance muslim?

CosmicParasite insults people as a fag, you insult people as a Muslim, proving you rightwingassholes are bigots, homophobes, racists.

[in2deep]

I never address your vomit but anyone who thinks the Bush admin was crafty enough to orchestrate 9/11 but too stupid to plant WMDs in Iraq given free reign of the country is pretty fucking stupid.

Not that I agree with him. But "allowing" jihadi muslims into the country and turning a blind eye while they board the planes is a LOT easier than sneaking a significant amount of WMDs into a country tens of thousands of miles away under US military and UN watch

[Chucho]

CosmicParasite insults people as a fag, you insult people as a Muslim, proving you rightwingassholes are bigots, homophobes, racists.

You are in good company. I honestly believed you were the only real bigot in real life. Not "Spurs Talk troll", but real life, full-of-anger bigotry and racism. The anger you scream in your posts is real.

[DMC]

Not that I agree with him. But "allowing" jihadi muslims into the country and turning a blind eye while they board the planes is a LOT easier than sneaking a significant amount of WMDs into a country tens of thousands of miles away under US military and UN watch

No no no, the 9/11 truthers think bombs were planted in the building that created a controlled collapse. You don't have to sneak anything into Iraq. The place was chaotic, just airdrop a package to a team on the ground, problem solved. That vs the number of people needed to carry out a conspiracy the size of 9/11, who subsequently never talked, never got Wikileaked or hacked and still remain ghosts 15 years later. Claiming someone turned a blind eye, that's another story. That's still happening with the Syrian refugees.

[DMC]

You are in good company. I honestly believed you were the only real bigot in real life. Not "Spurs Talk troll", but real life, full-of-anger bigotry and racism. The anger you scream in your posts is real.

No it's not. It's the anonymous blabberings of an ideologue coward with no social life.

[DMC]

CosmicParasite insults people as a fag, you insult people as a Muslim, proving you rightwingassholes are bigots, homophobes, racists.

But I'm not a right winger.

[Chucho]

No it's not. It's the anonymous blabberings of an ideologue coward with no social life.

Well, yeah. Ive been calling him the sociopathic loner he is. But he is alsona disgusting racist, too.

[DMC]

Well, yeah. Ive been calling him the sociopathic loner he is. But he is alsona disgusting racist, too.

He also likes to categorize folks as that's the ideologue way. Probably smokes 6 packs a day and requires O2, and on several prescriptions yet bitches about BigPharma.

[in2deep]

No no no, the 9/11 truthers think bombs were planted in the building that created a controlled collapse. You don't have to sneak anything into Iraq. The place was chaotic, just airdrop a package to a team on the ground, problem solved. That vs the number of people needed to carry out a conspiracy the size of 9/11, who subsequently never talked, never got Wikileaked or hacked and still remain ghosts 15 years later. Claiming someone turned a blind eye, that's another story. That's still happening with the Syrian refugees.

what plane are you gonna use? US airforce was in control of the airspace. U think they woudnlt notice?

Even if Cheney was able to airdrop it himself who is going to pick it up and move it to various locations? U think the US command would not notice this through satellite imagery?

[in2deep]

Plus why would they care to go through all that? Their goal was achieved. Who cares is the worls finds out it was a lie? They didnt give a shit(cheney and co)

[DMC]

what plane are you gonna use? US airforce was in control of the airspace. U think they woudnlt notice?

Even if Cheney was able to airdrop it himself who is going to pick it up and move it to various locations? U think the US command would not notice this through satellite imagery?

So you think it's easier to clandestinely destroy the WTC and the Pentagon than to do an airdrop in a 3rd world country that we are attacking? Of course the USAF had control. That's who would have made the drop. It's certainly easier to do than to rig the WTC to blow just after the planes hit.

Don't get all stupid on me.

[DMC]

Plus why would they care to go through all that? Their goal was achieved. Who cares is the worls finds out it was a lie? They didnt give a shit(cheney and co)

Why plant bombs if you can just turn a blind eye and let it happen anyhow?

Same shit, keep up.

[boutons_deux]

I throw Trash/Repug/Christian Sharia shit in your faces, means I'm the sicko?? :lol

You assholes elected Trash, appease Pootin, love capitalists/hate labor, who's the sicko? :lol

[in2deep]

So you think it's easier to clandestinely destroy the WTC and the Pentagon than to do an airdrop in a 3rd world country that we are attacking? Of course the USAF had control. That's who would have made the drop. It's certainly easier to do than to rig the WTC to blow just after the planes hit.

Don't get all stupid on me.

alread stated its easier to turn a blind eye and let jihadis board the planes. So you think the US army and air force would have done Cheney the solid to plan Tons of WMDs in Iraq? :lol come on come back to reality

you brought up planting bombs, not me try to keep up

[in2deep]

Why plant bombs if you can just turn a blind eye and let it happen anyhow?

Same shit, keep up.

sure US airport security turning a blind eye on a dozen jihadis carrying box cutters is equivalent to US army, air force and command turning a bliend eye on tons of WMDs bing smuggled and placed in various locations in war torn Iraq :lmao

wow

[spurraider21]

But I'm not a right winger.
:cry noncommital

[TheSanityAnnex]

:cry noncommital
:lol your MO :lol

[DMC]

alread stated its easier to turn a blind eye and let jihadis board the planes. So you think the US army and air force would have done Cheney the solid to plan Tons of WMDs in Iraq? :lol come on come back to reality

you brought up planting bombs, not me try to keep up

You're either being intentionally obtuse out of retardation or just trying to troll. Truthers don't talk about turning a blind eye, they talk about planting bombs in the WTC.

If you can't focus on my original statement why did you even respond?

[DMC]

:cry noncommital

It's the truth. I'm anything but noncommital. That's your role, Philo.

[DMC]

sure US airport security turning a blind eye on a dozen jihadis carrying box cutters is equivalent to US army, air force and command turning a bliend eye on tons of WMDs bing smuggled and placed in various locations in war torn Iraq :lmao

wow

Who planted the bombs in the WTC to bring it down? Didn't the US Navy "USS Hornet" cooperate with NASA for the moon landing hoax when they rescued a fake pod?

An entity smart enough to pull off the WTC truther claim and moon landing hoax could easily have planted WMDs. They didn't need tons.

[in2deep]

They didn't need tons.

:lmao the M in WMDs stands for mass

you dont just go to Kmart and buy a few boxes of chlorine and cal it WMD :lol u need large quantities of the chemicals (which were never found in Iraq) and large quantities of delivery mechanisms and equipment

Come back to reality :rolleyes

[DMC]

:lmao the M in WMDs stands for mass



:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Police shred Breitbart for manufacturing ‘fake news’ story about chanting Muslims setting fire to church

The Breitbart news site has come under harsh criticism from the police for posting a story hyping up a small fireworks fire at German church and claiming Muslims set the building on fire.

According to the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church), police in Dortmund, Germany slammed the incendiary website for combining a report of the small fire and unrelated stories and turning them into “fake news, hate and propaganda.”

Breitbart, headlined “Revealed: 1,000-man mob attack police, set Germany’s oldest church alight on New Year’s Eve.”

The story, written by Virginia Hale, claimed the mob “chanted Allahu Akbar (God is greatest), launched fireworks at police and set fire to a historic church.”

According to local police speaking with local newspaper, Ruhr Nachrichten, no such thing happened. Instead a few stray fireworks landed on netting hanging on the church, causing the netting to catch fire — which was put out in less than 12 minutes.

According to the paper, the roof never caught fire, there were no “mob of Muslims” in the street and the church is not Germany’s oldest.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/police-shred-breitbart-for-manufacturing-fake-news-story-about-chanting-muslims-setting-fire-to-church/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

But Ms of Breitbart followers never heard the German refutation, so believe their Breitbart Bible chapter and verse.

[mavsfan1000]

More fake news from FNN.

[spurraider21]

More fake news from FNN.fox news network?

[mavsfan1000]

fox news network?
Fake News Network. Also known as Clinton News Network.

[spurraider21]

Fake News Network. Also known as Clinton News Network.FNN = Fox News Network = Fake News Network

got it

[mavsfan1000]

FNN = Fox News Network = Fake News Network

got it
Nope. Fox is Conservative. Not fake.

[spurraider21]

Nope. Fox is Conservative. Not fake.so news is only fake if its liberal?

[mavsfan1000]

so news is only fake if its liberal?
There are Conservative websites that are fake. But Fox is pretty good with honesty. Just annoying to Liberals due to it being mostly Conservative. CNN is pure trash though. Evil people on that channel.

[spurraider21]

There are Conservative websites that are fake. But Fox is pretty good with honesty. Just annoying to Liberals due to it being mostly Conservative. CNN is pure trash though. Evil people on that channel.I agree that CNN reports with a pretty noticeable slant. But

a) how would you define "fake news" and
b) can you post a couple of examples of fake news from CNN that fit that description?

[Spurminator]

Fuck's sake.

820257714362314753

[Th'Pusher]

Fuck's sake.

820257714362314753

OANN :lol

didn't they just hire Corey Lewandowski?

[boutons_deux]

If all y'all shitkickin, gun fellatin bubbas haven/t seen it, here's another place where you can enrich your fantasy world.

We all look forward to your "facts" and "truths" copied from there.

==============

Meet The Mysterious, Facebook-Verified Page Pushing Fake News To Nearly 5 Million Followers

American News Is Perhaps The Largest Facebook Page Regularly Pushing Fake News

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2017/01/06/american_news.png


The verified Facebook page for American News (also known as The Patriot Review), with its more than 4.7 million followers, is perhaps the largest page regularly pushing fake news on the social media platform and is emblematic of the problem Facebook must address immediately. It shares dozens of posts each day, often topped with false, clickbait headlines that confirm biases and stoke fear in readers.

American News also has no publicly listed writers, editors, or owners, nor a business address or phone number. That lack of disclosure helps hyperpartisan websites like American News to publish patently false information without accountability. The page’s opacity and role as a fake news purveyor also demonstrate the murkiness of Facebook’s “verification” guidelines, which require that pages have a publicly listed phone number or business documents showing an official name and address that “matches public records.”


Fake News Purveyors Like American News Share Both Hyperpartisan And Fake Content, Often Designed To Stoke Fear

The American News Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/ThePatriotReview/) exclusively shares content from the AmericanNews.com website, which pushes a combination of fake news stories (http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/12/15/understanding-fake-news-universe/214819) -- information that is clearly and demonstrably fabricated and that has been packaged and distributed to appear as legitimate news -- and other hyperpartisan, right-wing content.

Stories from American News have been repeatedly (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/americannewscom/) debunked (http://www.snopes.com/tag/american-news/) as totally “false,” most notably the “100% made up” lie (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/11/15/viral-lie-about-denzel-washington-perfect-illustration-facebooks-fake-news-crisis/214460) that Denzel Washington had switched (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/14/denzel-washington-endorsed-trump-according-to-americanews-breitbartt-usanewshome-and-facebook/?utm_term=.d77b845f6b50) from supporting Hillary Clinton to backing Donald Trump in the 2016 election, which was shared hundreds of thousands of times.

American News also pushed a fake news story in April claiming that President Barack Obama had issued an executive order (http://www.snopes.com/plan-launches-to-make-obama-addition-to-mount-rushmore/) to have his likeness added to Mount Rushmore and a 2014 story alleging Congress had approved a bill (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/nov/17/americannewscom/social-media-post-says-barack-obama-backed-bill-wi/) offering free cars to welfare recipients.

The Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/ptbconservative/) for Proud To Be Conservative, with more than 1.5 million followers, also exclusively shares content from the AmericanNews.com website.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/15/meet-mysterious-facebook-verified-page-pushing-fake-news-nearly-5-million-followers/214946?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

[spurraider21]

:lmao you know its sad when you actually have to call yourself "credible" in a 20 word description

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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_bigger.jpgDonald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) 7h7 hours ago (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820725491812487170)
about that...Those Intelligence chiefs made a mistake here, & when people make mistakes, they should APOLOGIZE." Media should also apologize

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Thank you to Bob Woodward who said, "That is a garbage document...it never should have been presented...Trump's right to be upset (angry)...





I could not believe Woodward said it, but, I had it DVR'ed. I was fucking amazed. And Woodward went no further after "they should apologize." Just dropped his mic.

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about that...Those Intelligence chiefs made a mistake here, & when people make mistakes, they should APOLOGIZE." Media should also apologize

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Thank you to Bob Woodward who said, "That is a garbage document...it never should have been presented...Trump's right to be upset (angry)...





I could not believe Woodward said it, but, I had it DVR'ed. I was fucking amazed. And Woodward went no further after "they should apologize." Just dropped his mic.

:lol 40k posts on 1 of several accounts, including trolls, and still can't embed a tweet

:lmao

[Thread]

:lol 40k posts on 1 of several accounts, including trolls, and still can't embed a tweet

:lmao

Only pussies & assholes play the embed card.

[spurraider21]

5:54-7:30 is the relevant portion


https://youtu.be/aGCookG90kA?t=5m54s

[mavsfan1000]

The only news channel that is usually reliable is Fox. The other channels are on a witch hunt.

[DMX7]

Shep Smith: ‘Fox News Cannot Confirm Judge Napolitano’s Commentary’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smith-fox-news-cannot-confirm-judge-napolitanos-commentary/


Smith brought up Trump’s invocation of Napolitano and said, “Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano’s commentary. Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now-President of the United States was surveilled at any time in any way. Full stop.”

[mavsfan1000]

Shep Smith is the only one on Fox I don't like.

[TSA]

Shep Smith is the only one on Fox I don't like.

He sucks dicks for fun and is as liberal as they come.

[monosylab1k]

Shep Smith is the only one on Fox I don't like.

Oh what a shock, the one guy who disagrees with your myopic worldview is coincidentally the one you dislike!

[TSA]

Oh what a shock, the one guy who disagrees with your myopic worldview is coincidentally the one you dislike!



I have a couple friends that are gay liberals. What about my statement makes you think I dislike him?

[monosylab1k]

I have a couple friends that are gay liberals. What about my statement makes you think I dislike him?

Wasn't talking to you, fam. Did you not see who I quoted?

[clambake]

He sucks dicks for fun and is as liberal as they come.

can't you connect him to





pizza?

[Spurminator]

I have a couple friends that are gay liberals. What about my statement makes you think I dislike him?

What about your statement was relevant to what you quoted? Don't backtrack, own up to it.

[TSA]

Wasn't talking to you, fam. Did you not see who I quoted?

Totally thought you had quoted me my bad fam.

[TSA]

can't you connect him to




pizza?

can't you come up with anything





new?

[clambake]

What about your statement was relevant to what you quoted? Don't backtrack, own up to it.

yeah right

[clambake]

can't you come up with anything





new?
hows that name taking going?

[Spurtacular]

5:54-7:30 is the relevant portion


https://youtu.be/aGCookG90kA?t=5m54s

Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro.

Two of your all-time faves.

[spurraider21]

Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro.

Two of your all-time faves.
i think Rubin is quite literally one of the lowest IQ people on the political commentating sphere

shapiro became famous by dunking on unprepared random college students by talking over them really quickly with canned talking points

i dont think very highly of either. there was a time i would listen to Shapiro's daily pod, which was a 1 hour or so rundown of him looking at the news of the day (as opposed to what his current show is like), and i used to think that relative to the talking heads on other shows, he was reasonably objective on that program. but his general political takes? i dont care for them, and i think his arguments are pretty bad when held to any scrutiny

but in that short clip i highlighted, i think he accurately captured why people overblow "fake news". unfortunately he falls prey to it all the time

[Spurtacular]

i think Rubin is quite literally one of the lowest IQ people on the political commentating sphere

shapiro became famous by dunking on unprepared random college students by talking over them really quickly with canned talking points

i dont think very highly of either. there was a time i would listen to Shapiro's daily pod, which was a 1 hour or so rundown of him looking at the news of the day (as opposed to what his current show is like), and i used to think that relative to the talking heads on other shows, he was reasonably objective on that program. but his general political takes? i dont care for them, and i think his arguments are pretty bad when held to any scrutiny

but in that short clip i highlighted, i think he accurately captured why people overblow "fake news". unfortunately he falls prey to it all the time

I think it was just one utilization of fake news outlined. Frankly, the media just makes up sh** much more regularly; and it's even becoming a going concern as far as the law is concerned.

[Spurtacular]

i think Rubin is quite literally one of the lowest IQ people on the political commentating sphere

shapiro became famous by dunking on unprepared random college students by talking over them really quickly with canned talking points

i dont think very highly of either. there was a time i would listen to Shapiro's daily pod, which was a 1 hour or so rundown of him looking at the news of the day (as opposed to what his current show is like), and i used to think that relative to the talking heads on other shows, he was reasonably objective on that program. but his general political takes? i dont care for them, and i think his arguments are pretty bad when held to any scrutiny

but in that short clip i highlighted, i think he accurately captured why people overblow "fake news". unfortunately he falls prey to it all the time

Shapiro is quite smart. And if he's smart enough to work out his points in advance, more power to him. His recall is top of the chart. His politics are skewed towards Zionism; so, there's a limit to the value to be had in them. He's really on your side; but Chumpettes hate anyone who is not hundred percent shilling.

[Spurtacular]

i think Rubin is quite literally one of the lowest IQ people on the political commentating sphere

shapiro became famous by dunking on unprepared random college students by talking over them really quickly with canned talking points

i dont think very highly of either. there was a time i would listen to Shapiro's daily pod, which was a 1 hour or so rundown of him looking at the news of the day (as opposed to what his current show is like), and i used to think that relative to the talking heads on other shows, he was reasonably objective on that program. but his general political takes? i dont care for them, and i think his arguments are pretty bad when held to any scrutiny

but in that short clip i highlighted, i think he accurately captured why people overblow "fake news". unfortunately he falls prey to it all the time

That's just the hate talking. He's good at what he does. I think he reaches for low hanging fruit to appeal to a broad base.

[spurraider21]

Shapiro is quite smart. And if he's smart enough to work out his points in advance, more power to him. His recall is top of the chart. His politics are skewed towards Zionism; so, there's a limit to the value to be had in them. He's really on your side; but Chumpettes hate anyone who is not hundred percent shilling.
i'm sure shapiro has some form of high intelligence in that he was very accomplished academically

its not just that i disagree with his political takes, but the arguments that he sets forth as the basis for his positions are usually pretty garbage. its easy to look smart when you debate unprepared random 18 year olds though

[spurraider21]

That's just the hate talking. He's good at what he does. I think he reaches for low hanging fruit to appeal to a broad base.
no, he's probably close to being mentally challenged. or he's just more of a bold-faced liar than i give him credit for.

saying shit like MLK would be a conservative today, that building codes are pointless because the free market will force contractors to build everything such that they would be up to code anyway, or that the US is going to have to declare war against China as a way to get out of making payments on the national debt

[spurraider21]

:lmao i forgot how stupid his whole clip was on the china stuff

1303506413487087617

[Spurtacular]

no, he's probably close to being mentally challenged. or he's just more of a bold-faced liar than i give him credit for.

saying shit like MLK would be a conservative today, that building codes are pointless because the free market will force contractors to build everything such that they would be up to code anyway, or that the US is going to have to declare war against China as a way to get out of making payments on the national debt

MLK would be (superficially) if his stances were to remain the same. But given that he would not likely find that to be the most opportunistic path, I could certainly see him having more of a toxic left vent today.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao i forgot how stupid his whole clip was on the china stuff

1303506413487087617

Not much I'd run with there; but I'm not bothered.

Why does it bother you so much to face the fact that USA is China's bitch?

[spurraider21]

Not much I'd run with there; but I'm not bothered.
its not a matter of being bothered. its a matter of how braindead rubin is


Why does it bother you so much to face the fact that USA is China's bitch?
most of the US's debt is owed domestically

of our foreign owned debt, japan owns more of our debt that china does, but nobody talks about that :lol

[spurraider21]

MLK would be (superficially) if his stances were to remain the same. But given that he would not likely find that to be the most opportunistic path, I could certainly see him having more of a toxic left vent today.
MLK was a socialist SJW

[Spurtacular]

its not a matter of being bothered. its a matter of how braindead rubin is


most of the US's debt is owed domestically

of our foreign owned debt, japan owns more of our debt that china does, but nobody talks about that :lol

If true, that's Japan owning our ass decades after the fact .

Even Beijing Biden hasn't canceled the tariffs. It's no secret that China has to be slowed.

[Spurtacular]

MLK was a socialist SJW

By the standards of the time. He wasn't promoting stupid sh** like critical race theory.

[spurraider21]

By the standards of the time. He wasn't promoting stupid sh** like critical race theory.
what do you think critical race theory is?

[Spurtacular]

what do you think critical race theory is?

The inference here is that you think MLK is for critical race theory.

Go ahead and explain.

[spurraider21]

The inference here is that you think MLK is for critical race theory.

Go ahead and explain.
nice dodge

critical race theory is a broad term for a collection of academic theories to describe our understanding of racial inequality, and doing so by analyzing power structures (ie, who makes the laws), and that racial discrepancies in social/economic standing have more to do with societal constructs than being primarily attributed to individual choice (or genetics)

hard to see how that is really opposed to anything MLK was ever saying. when MLK took issue with the state of american civil rights, i dont think it was lost on him that it was a result of societal power structures

[Spurtacular]

nice dodge

critical race theory is a broad term for a collection of academic theories to describe our understanding of racial inequality, and doing so by analyzing power structures (ie, who makes the laws), and that racial discrepancies in social/economic standing have more to do with societal constructs than being primarily attributed to individual choice (or genetics)

hard to see how that is really opposed to anything MLK was ever saying. when MLK took issue with the state of american civil rights, i dont think it was lost on him that it was a result of societal power structures

That's some bull sh**. It's been exposed as race shaming and a means to racial discrimination.

Bringing that back to MLK, he was not openly for that.

[spurraider21]

That's some bull sh**. It's been exposed as race shaming and a means to racial discrimination.

Bringing that back to MLK, he was not openly for that.
critical theory is generally the viewing of soceity/history through the lens of power structures. critical race theory is the racialized version of that, as i described above.

im sorry that it doesnt necessarily line up with what gab memes have told you what critical race theory is

[Spurtacular]

critical theory is generally the viewing of soceity/history through the lens of power structures. critical race theory is the racialized version of that, as i described above.

im sorry that it doesnt necessarily line up with what gab memes have told you what critical race theory is

You can call it that; but you're willfully ignoring the hate speech being taught. It's not my lens. It is what it is. Own your sh**.

[spurraider21]

You can call it that; but you're willfully ignoring the hate speech being taught. It's not my lens. It is what it is. Own your sh**.
You can’t learn this kind of shit from gab memes

come to terms

[Spurtacular]

You can’t learn this kind of shit from gab memes

come to terms

I've heard plenty on this; so have you. You make it sound like it's uncontroversial. You're being quite goofy.

[spurraider21]

I've heard plenty on this; so have you. You make it sound like it's uncontroversial. You're being quite goofy.
Critical race theory is a broad term that applies to a broader set of political schools of thought. I’m sure that there are anecdotal cases of people making poor use of it.

[Spurtacular]

Critical race theory is a broad term that applies to a broader set of political schools of thought. I’m sure that there are anecdotal cases of people making poor use of it.

That's one way of looking at it.

[spurraider21]

That's one way of looking at it.
well yeah.

to throw you a bone, i remember there was that weird pamphlet/graphic that was up on the Smithsonian website for a few weeks that was then taken down. i think there was a thread on it here, or at least a discussion about it. i called it stupid at the time. it was criticized and promptly removed.

https://tri-statedefender.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/whiteness-1_0.png

but not even that is inherent to critical race theory. that says nothing about racial power structures, for instance.

[Spurtacular]

well yeah.

to throw you a bone, i remember there was that weird pamphlet/graphic that was up on the Smithsonian website for a few weeks that was then taken down. i think there was a thread on it here, or at least a discussion about it. i called it stupid at the time. it was criticized and promptly removed.

https://tri-statedefender.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/whiteness-1_0.png

but not even that is inherent to critical race theory. that says nothing about racial power structures, for instance.

:lol "Normalized whiteness"

[spurraider21]

:lol "Normalized whiteness"
like i said, it was stupid. but its not inherent to crt

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1413514240049049604?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1413514240049049604?s=19What media do you trust, Qhris?

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1413514240049049604?s=19

Yup.

[ChumpDumper]

Yup.What media do you trust, derp?

[daboom1]

What media do you trust, Qhris?

Asked and answered.

[ChumpDumper]

Asked and answered.Then link the post where you answer.

[daboom1]

Then link the post where you answer.

Go find it, or admit you don't know how to operate a forum.

[MASSA]

Asked and answered.


Go find it, or admit you don't know how to operate a forum.

[ChumpDumper]

Go find it, or admit you don't know how to operate a forum.Qhris folds.

If you can't prove you answered, that's your problem.

You can't demand I prove a negative. That's stupid.

[daboom1]

Chump folds.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump folds.Not how it works.

You claimed you answered.

Prove it.

[daboom1]

Not how it works.

You claimed you answered.

Prove it.

That's exactly how it works.

You folded.

[ChumpDumper]

That's exactly how it works.No.

You claim you answered.

Prove it.

[Spurtacular]

Chump folds.