Trade Season Thread (rumors/news etc..)

[spursistan]

It officially starts today leading to February 23rd 2017 deadline...Unless something blockbuster is happening let's use this thread for discussions of rumors floating around the league and general trade ideas..

First batch of rumors from Woj...


Wojnarowski On Raptors, Warriors, Noel, Heat (http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/12/wojnarowski-on-raptors-warriors-noel-heat.html)

In his latest podcast for The Vertical with longtime NBA executive Bobby Marks, Adrian Wojnarowski mentioned that the Pacers have been strongly rebuffing trade inquiries on Paul George, telling teams that they won’t even listen to offers. We had a full story on that earlier today, but it wasn’t the only notable tidbit from the conversation between Wojnarowski and Marks. Here are several more highlights from the podcast:




The Raptors appear to be willing to give up a draft pick and at least one of their young prospects to improve their current roster, but there aren’t many options out there right now for Toronto. According to Wojnarowski, the club can afford to be patient and opportunistic since it has so many young players who are still improving. The Vertical scribe points to Denver’s 2012 acquisition of Andre Iguodala (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iguodan01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) (the Nuggets gave up Arron Afflalo (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/afflaar01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), Al Harrington (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harrial01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), a future first-round pick, and a second-rounder) as the type of deal Masai Ujiri might be open to making again.
The Warriors would like to add a rim protector, but they know teams won’t be giving that type of player away, and they don’t want to do any trade that makes them “even 1% less likely to win a title,” says Wojnarowski.
The research that rival teams have done on Nerlens Noel (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noelne01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) is “not good,” per Wojnarowski, who adds that those clubs haven’t gotten good reports about the way the Sixers big man carries himself, and his habits. Teams are still interested in acquiring Noel, but they don’t want to give up a whole lot for him, so it’ll be interesting to see if Philadelphia eventually takes what it can get. The Sixers would probably love to see Noel put in a couple healthy and productive months before the deadline to improve his stock.
The Heat will likely test the trade market for Goran Dragic (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dragigo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), but after giving up two first-round picks to acquire him, getting a single pick back in return would essentially be admitting they made a mistake, says Wojnarowski.
Wojnarowski wonders if the Celtics are overvaluing some of their own players, including perhaps Marcus Smart (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smartma01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), in trade talks. Boston also continues to keep an eye on Gordon Hayward (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywago01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) in case there’s any chance the Jazz make him available in a contract year.
Marks believes that if the Nets decide to move Brook Lopez (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lopezbr01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), they can wait until the last year of his contract to do so. Marks, who previously worked for the franchise, calls Lopez a “creature a habit,” suggesting the veteran center is more likely than most players to re-up with his current team instead of actively exploring the free agent market. Lopez’s deal expires in 2018, but Wojnarowski notes that Brooklyn values him and won’t move him just to move him.





http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/12/wojnarowski-on-raptors-warriors-noel-heat.html
(http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/12/wojnarowski-on-raptors-warriors-noel-heat.html/email)

[spursistan]

Looks like Noel has a cancerous attitude on top of being very injury-prone..The entire league is low-balling the fuckout of 76ers on him according to Woj :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Looks like Noel has a cancerous attitude on top of being very injury-prone..The entire league is low-balling the fuckout of 76ers on him according to Woj :lol

So long as he doesnt go to warriors..I dont really care where Noel goes. I WANTED him but with Dedmon playig like a Demon...i dont care for lockeroom problems.

But the warriors should do everything they can to aquire as many picks as possible to throw at PHI and maybe one vetern player to get Noel.

It's a perfect match. Noel when healthy was always in the top of all defensive metrics despite player for the sixers.

[Robz4000]

I'd be pissed as fuck if Noel goes to the Dubs for peanuts.

[apalisoc_9]

I'd be pissed as fuck if Noel goes to the Dubs for peanuts.

I can assure you, The sixers are only getting peanuts offers right now. :lol

Let's just hope someone else offers something much better than the warriors. I would provably give up on the season already if they somehow manage to steal Noel.

[Robz4000]

I can assure you, The sixers are only getting peanuts offers right now. :lol

Let's just hope someone else offers something much better than the warriors. I would provably give up on the season already if they somehow manage to steal Noel.

There has to be a team out there willing to give more than the 30th pick for Noel.

[spursistan]

So long as he doesnt go to warriors..I dont really care where Noel goes. I WANTED him but with Dedmon playig like a Demon...i dont care for lockeroom problems.

But the warriors should do everything they can to aquire as many picks as possible to throw at PHI and maybe one vetern player to get Noel.

It's a perfect match. Noel when healthy was always in the top of all defensive metrics despite player for the sixers.

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Look for a large dose of D-Worst/Javale/Varejao, and hopefully few Ls come with it :lol..

I don't think anyone is giftwrapping them anybody..Don't underestimate the personal relationships at the executive levels that help making deals..

Fellow owners and GMs hate the guts of that prick Lacob after his arrogantly dismissive comments ("light years ahead" of anyone) and getting Durbeta to form a superteam through possibly tampering misconduct (GSW players were apparently recruiting him throughout the season and playoff series) has only made them more furious at how that franchise operates..

[apalisoc_9]

There has to be a team out there willing to give more than the 30th pick for Noel.

Sure...but Warriors can trade Iggy or Livingston to a desperate third team looking to make it to the playoffs in exchange for a pick and some salary filler player...They have things they can do to improve their offer..

Maybe even throwing Ian Clark with multiple picks etc...

[Robz4000]

Sure...but Warriors can trade Iggy or Livingston to a desperate third team looking to make it to the playoffs in exchange for a pick and some salary filler player...They have things they can do to improve their offer..

Maybe even throwing Ian Clark with multiple picks etc...

Woj just said they won't make a trade that involves their important pieces so that takes Iggy/Livingston out of the equation. After those two it's slim pickings. Honestly from what it sounds like it could end up being a case similar to the Pau/Kwame trade.

:lol the Logo continuing to dick the rest of the league

[spursistan]

Woj just said they won't make a trade that involves their important pieces so that takes Iggy/Livingston out of the equation. After those two it's slim pickings. Honestly from what it sounds like it could end up being a case similar to the Pau/Kwame trade.

:lol the Logo continuing to dick the rest of the league

Don't think so, in fact they will get backlash in some form ala CP3-to-LA vetoed trade after their Pau heist (Cuban/Gilbert and co. ganged up on LA with Stern to shoot it down; and Lacob is an even more detestable figure)...It started with the new CBA,which makes it harder to form super teams with new extention rules for stars..

[ambchang]

I can assure you, The sixers are only getting peanuts offers right now. :lol

Let's just hope someone else offers something much better than the warriors. I would provably give up on the season already if they somehow manage to steal Noel.

Noel is fragile, can't pass, can't score, can't shoot. He's horrible. And the Warriors can only take one nut case on the roster. One more will make that team of psychologically fragile betas collapse.

[spursistan]

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[Kawhitstorm]

There has to be a team out there willing to give more than the 30th pick for Noel.

Blazers would have to be idiots for not offering Vonleh & the 1st rd pick they got from the Cavs since they are going to be capped out.

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[Kawhitstorm]

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Jeff Green & Rudy Gay on the SAME team.:lmao

[spursistan]

Jeff Green & Rudy Gay on the SAME team.:lmao
I'm not sure what the Magic are trying to do at this point..:lol...They are Suns East: a rebuilding process that looked promising early, but all of the sudden everything went south..just all over the place..

[spursistan]

It is Rich Bucher but...:wow

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[spursistan]

^^ if true; the Celtics should be all in for Butler..

[spursistan]

Korver to the Cavs :lol

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[Clipper Nation]

Korver to the Cavs :lol

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The Splash Sisters just wet themselves in fear, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Korver isn't what he used to be but off the bench for CLE he should be a really good contributor. Will get open looks. Great spot for him.

[spursistan]

The Splash Sisters just wet themselves in fear, tbh.
(any) a shooter around Lebron = scary proposition..

When healthy, I don't see why the Cavs shouldn't be favorite over GSW if if they meet again with how that match-up has evolved both tactically and mentally....

[Clipper Nation]

Korver isn't what he used to be but off the bench for CLE he should be a really good contributor. Will get open looks. Great spot for him.
LeGOAT will make him better than what he used to be.

[Bynumite]

LeCoon grabbing himself another legacy saving 3 point shooter. Lebeta just can't shoot for shit.

[Splits]

LeCoon grabbing himself another legacy saving 3 point shooter. Lebeta just can't shoot for shit.

lol 44.7%

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[Canyonero]

Korver to the Cavs :lol

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Just give them the rings.

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[apalisoc_9]

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Portland needs to make all sorts of calls, imo..

Any 8-10 team in the west will overpass OKC of they get millsap, imo..could be enough time for Wolves if the get him next week.

[spurtech09]

I don't know why Hawks would make such a trade lol...

[spursistan]

Portland needs to make all sorts of calls, imo..

Any 8-10 team in the west will overpass OKC of they get millsap, imo..could be enough time for Wolves if the get him next week.
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I think he is Toronto-bound or some West team that is desperate to the make the playoffs to save the executive heads in their front offices..Pelicans/Nuggets/Kings...

[Robz4000]

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I think he is Toronto-bound or some West team that is desperate to the make the playoffs to save the executive heads in their front offices..Pelicans/Nuggets/Kings...

Nuggets would be retarded to trade for Millsap since they already have two studs in the frontcourt; they need competent wing players that can defend. Agree on the other two though.

[apalisoc_9]

Nuggets would be retarded to trade for Millsap since they already have two studs in the frontcourt; they need competent wing players that can defend. Agree on the other two though.
Nuggets organization is convinced Nurkic and Jokic cant play together..I am almost positive one of them is leaving or will force their way out...Probably Nurkic.

[Robz4000]

Nuggets organization is convinced Nurkic and Jokic cant play together..I am almost positive one of them is leaving or will force their way out...Probably Nurkic.

They'd better get something more than a 3 month rental of Millsap then.

[spursistan]

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crofl..The Hawks FO are absolutely clueless about the direction of the franchise..

[apalisoc_9]

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crofl..The Hawks FO are absolutely clueless about the direction of the franchise..

Deadline is on a month away. Likely, they're getting lowball offers and made a statement so teams can stop calling them until they're ready to actually offer anything of value.

It's going to be a waiting game. Trading Millsap is their best course for a rebuild.

[DAF86]

To think the Spurs could have drafted both Kawhi and Butler on the same draft.

[ambchang]

To think the Spurs could have drafted both Kawhi and Butler on the same draft.

Duncan's shop could have removed butlers cars rear view mirrors for free.

[Kawhitstorm]

To think the Spurs could have drafted both Kawhi and Butler on the same draft.

The Wizards could have drafted Kawhi/Butler in the same draft but settled for Vesely & Singleton who are no longer in the league.:lol

[dfens]

Deadline is on a month away. Likely, they're getting lowball offers and made a statement so teams can stop calling them until they're ready to actually offer anything of value.

It's going to be a waiting game. Trading Millsap is their best course for a rebuild.

millsap is such an underrated piece tbh : range, decent ball handling, able to defend even some quick SFs, decent rebounding, not a dumbass, perfect for PNR offensive and defensive, even some rim protection. A great pickup for a competent coach imo.
let's hope he gets to a decent team.

[Spurs9]

To think the Spurs could have drafted both Kawhi and Butler on the same draft.

Its easy to say after the fact.

[DAF86]

Its easy to say after the fact.

Yes, that's why I did it. Had it been harder, I wouldn't have done it.

[TimDunkem]

A lot of people here including myself wanted Butler over CJ. Only a few guys like TD 21 said that he was a scrub and would be nothing more than a role player off the bench for a bad team.

[spursistan]

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wtf :lol

[Robz4000]

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wtf :lol

Good move by SVG tbh; Jackson has been cancering it up in Detroit. Not sure why Thibs is for it.

[spursistan]

Good move by SVG tbh; Jackson has been cancering it up in Detroit. Not sure why Thibs is for it.
Yeah, terrible for Minny..Bringing a toxic shoot-first PG, who actually can't shoot, to take them shots away from KAT/Wiggins/Lavine..

Wolves core is very young.. they need a veteran PG who would be a floor general.. I would rather have them pursue a Dragic trade..

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[jermaine]

Remember when Roy Hibbert was thought of as a greAt Center

[sasaint]

Remember when Roy Hibbert was thought of as a greAt Center

I wonder if Milwaukee will waive him.

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[Chillen]

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This guy has potential still, Spurs not interested? it seems the asking price isn't high.

[Spurs9]

This guy has potential still, Spurs not interested? it seems the asking price isn't high.

Yeah I don't know, I think he still has alot of potential. I would love to see him in a Spurs uniform. If the asking price is so low I don't see why we wouldn't try to jump on that.

[Spurs9]

Wilson Chandler to Pelicans

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[apalisoc_9]

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SVG sold with Ish...Orlando has to make a decision with Elfrid Payton. Orladno GM shoulld be fired. Reggie Jackson?

What a loser. Just trade Green and Augustin for some assets.

[spursistan]

SVG sold with Ish...Orlando has to make a decision with Elfrid Payton. Orladno GM shoulld be fired. Reggie Jackson?

What a loser. Just trade Green and Augustin for some assets.

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He is epic level of awful..:lol

[apalisoc_9]

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He is epic level of awful..:lol

:lmao

[Robz4000]

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He is epic level of awful..:lol

:rollin