Can anyone name a better year for gaming than 2013?

[baseline bum]

The Last of Us
GTA V
Bioshock Infinite
Metro Last Light
Battlefield 4
Tomb Raider 2013
Super Mario 3D World
Guacamelee
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

[apalisoc_9]

Not informed enough to know. Crazy thing, GTA V and Last of us Online still have a large multiplayer community. It's crazy.

[resistanze]

Sorry brah...2007.

Modern Warfare
Mass Effect
Crysis
Assassins Creed
Portal
DiRT
The Witcher
BioShock
Super Mario Galaxy
Rock Band
God of War II
Halo 3
The Orange Box
Uncharted
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

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[apalisoc_9]

R&C tools of destruction :cry

[leemajors]

1997. Quake 2 came out.

[Reck]

2005 for me.

Resident Evil 4
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2
God of War
Indigo Prophecy
Need For Speed Most Wanted

Few more I'm probably forgetting.

[baseline bum]

Sorry brah...2007.

Modern Warfare
Mass Effect
Crysis
Assassins Creed
Portal
DiRT
The Witcher
BioShock
Super Mario Galaxy
Rock Band
God of War II
Halo 3
The Orange Box
Uncharted
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

Assassins Creed 1 was a lousy and repetitive game that was an incredible disappointment at the time and looks even worse with age. You're really padding your list putting that game on. Orange Box shouldn't count since Half Life 2 released in 2004 and you already mentioned Portal. And Rock Band being on a best games list? :lmao

I think Bioshock Infinite is a much better game than Bioshock 1. Bioshock 1 was amazing in the first half of the game, but really lost its steam about the time you figured out you were Atlas' slave. I'll take GTA V, The Last of Us, or Bioshock Infinite over any game from 2007.

[baseline bum]

I'd have to put 2007 second though. Modern Warfare 1, Portal, and especially Crysis 1 have aged amazingly also. Too bad Crytek is about to go belly up, so no Crysis 4. :cry

[Reck]

Assassins Creed 1 was a lousy and repetitive game that was an incredible disappointment at the time and looks even worse with age. You're really padding your list putting that game on. Orange Box shouldn't count since Half Life 2 released in 2004 and you already mentioned Portal. And Rock Band being on a best games list? :lmao

I think Bioshock Infinite is a much better game than Bioshock 1. Bioshock 1 was amazing in the first half of the game, but really lost its steam about the time you figured out you were Atlas' slave. I'll take GTA V, The Last of Us, or Bioshock Infinite over any game from 2007.

:lol You're disecting his picks like it's do or die and shit. :lol

I also had a chuckled on Rockband too though. That game was fun but shouldn't be on a best game list.

Agreed on Assassins Creed 1, too.

[baseline bum]

1997. Quake 2 came out.

Damn, that was a killer year:

Quake 2
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Fallout
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics
Goldeneye
Starfox 64

[leemajors]

Damn, that was a killer year:

Quake 2
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Fallout
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics
Goldeneye
Starfox 64

I thought I edited it to put Goldeneye in :lol

[midnightpulp]

The Last of Us
GTA V
Bioshock Infinite
Metro Last Light
Battlefield 4
Tomb Raider 2013
Super Mario 3D World
Guacamelee
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

I know me and BB are gonna disagree like Cats and Dogs on this one, as I think most of the games aside from BF 4 (multiplayer), Melee, and 3D World are hand-holding "modern generation" games with pretty shallow gameplay (doesn't mean they're not fun). Anyhow, from my "gameplay purist" perspective, I'm going with 1998.

So many truly groundbreaking games here that basically invented genres (Metal Gear Solid, Tenchu, and Thief all kind of "invented" the modern stealth genre that year, and each title's gameplay is still far superior in that regard to something like the Uncharted series and The Last of Us. Rainbow Six invented the tactical sim shooter), pushed innovation forward (Ocarina, Starcraft, Unreal, Half-Life, Freespace, Gran Turismo, etc), or were just great fuckin' games in their own right (Panzer Dragoon Saga, Fallout 2, Final Fantasy Tactics, Xenogears, etc).

http://i.imgur.com/JqPp2Es.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wz9G3xA.jpg

[Xevious]

^ Nice call, had no idea so many games of that caliber came out in the same year. I played the shit out of so many on that list, including some you didn't have highlighted, like Age of Empires and Delta Force.

But damn... Unreal, Half-Life, Freespace, Baldur's Gate, Starcraft, Ocarina of Time... all legends.

[resistanze]

Assassins Creed 1 was a lousy and repetitive game that was an incredible disappointment at the time and looks even worse with age. You're really padding your list putting that game on. Orange Box shouldn't count since Half Life 2 released in 2004 and you already mentioned Portal. And Rock Band being on a best games list? :lmao

I think Bioshock Infinite is a much better game than Bioshock 1. Bioshock 1 was amazing in the first half of the game, but really lost its steam about the time you figured out you were Atlas' slave. I'll take GTA V, The Last of Us, or Bioshock Infinite over any game from 2007.

Well I took it as a best year for gaming would include a ton of great games plus cultural impact, not just the elite of the elite. I wouldn't call a year the greatest based on 3 games with 2 of them sequels tbh. I also gave weight to the number of franchises that launched that year (UC, Witcher, Portal, Crysis, ME, AC).

You can change Orange Box to Half Life 2: Ep 2 if it makes you feel better :lol

Really Rock Band? You're trying to forget about that era because it's dated. Rock Band was critically acclaimed (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/rock-band) and won numerous awards and was the peak of the rhythm/party game revolution. I sure as hell was playing it for about a year.

But anyways I'd put Modern Warfare over any game in 2013 personally (partial to Mass Effect as well). MW was the last multiplayer game that literally ran shit since Counter-Strike.

1998 was my second choice imo.

[baseline bum]

Well I took it as a best year for gaming would include a ton of great games plus cultural impact, not just the elite of the elite. I wouldn't call a year the greatest based on 3 games with 2 of them sequels tbh. I also gave weight to the number of franchises that launched that year (UC, Witcher, Portal, Crysis, ME, AC).

You can change Orange Box to Half Life 2: Ep 2 if it makes you feel better :lol

Really Rock Band? You're trying to forget about that era because it's dated. Rock Band was critically acclaimed (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/rock-band) and won numerous awards and was the peak of the rhythm/party game revolution. I sure as hell was playing it for about a year.

But anyways I'd put Modern Warfare over any game in 2013 personally (partial to Mass Effect as well). MW was the last multiplayer game that literally ran shit since Counter-Strike.

1998 was my second choice imo.

I don't know man, The Witcher 3 being amazing isn't much of an argument for elevating Witcher 1 like it's at a similar level. And if you want to talk about sequels MW was like the sixth COD. Amazing game though. That ghillie suit mission in Pripyat is probably my favorite SP mission ever in a FPS. But I thought Rock Band and Guitar Hero were horrible games back then. I haven't played through the Mass Effect series, so maybe that would change my mind. God of War II is one of my favorite beat em ups. I thought AC 1 was awful in every way: it was the same three missions over and over in every section of every city (yay let's go sit on a bench), the modern day animus sequences were badly written and boring, the game was ugly by 2007 standards. The fact that Ubisoft was able to deliver a legendary sequel doesn't make the first seem any better in retrospect to me.

Bioshock Infinite though had my favorite storyline I have ever played through. Finding out you're like the 30th Booker the physicist twins have sent to stop future Booker was pretty mindblowing playing through it. I fully expected something really wild after the Ryan/Atlas plot twist from the first and it was still every bit as surprising to me. Then GTA V is the exact game I was hoping we'd one day see back when I was playing linear side-scrollers on the NES as a kid. It felt like three amazing games in one: a top notch driving game (as opposed to GTA IV whose driving felt like shit), an awesome 3rd person shooter campaign, and then maybe the greatest sandbox ever released. And then GTA V is unbelievable graphically on top of all that. I can't believe how amazing the game looked on the XBox 360. The first thing I did on that game was go hike up the mountains for the great views. To get that kind of draw distance when you had that much going on and doing it on a dying console like the 360 was pretty incredible.

I think 2004 deserves a spot on this list too. Half Life 2 and GTA San Andreas alone are enough. But then add Unreal Tournament 2004, NFL 2k5, Far Cry, Halo 2, MGS 3 Snake Eater. 1998 is definitely tough to beat too. I'd probably rank them

1. 2013
2. 2007
3. 1998
4. 2004

[baseline bum]

I know me and BB are gonna disagree like Cats and Dogs on this one, as I think most of the games aside from BF 4 (multiplayer), Melee, and 3D World are hand-holding "modern generation" games with pretty shallow gameplay (doesn't mean they're not fun). Anyhow, from my "gameplay purist" perspective, I'm going with 1998.

Ocarina of Time kind of felt like a "hand holding" game that you rail against though, with the Deku Tree and Navi telling you what to do. Fallout 2 though, that's right there with Skyrim for the best RPG I have ever played (although Fallout 2 is much truer to the genre). And then Half Life is probably the best FPS ever released for its time. That shit aged like Duncan, I had a blast playing it again a few months ago. :lol

[resistanze]

I don't know man, The Witcher 3 being amazing isn't much of an argument for elevating Witcher 1 like it's at a similar level. And if you want to talk about sequels MW was like the sixth COD. Amazing game though. That ghillie suit mission in Pripyat is probably my favorite SP mission ever in a FPS. But I thought Rock Band and Guitar Hero were horrible games back then. I haven't played through the Mass Effect series, so maybe that would change my mind. God of War II is one of my favorite beat em ups. I thought AC 1 was awful in every way: it was the same three missions over and over in every section of every city (yay let's go sit on a bench), the modern day animus sequences were badly written and boring, the game was ugly by 2007 standards. The fact that Ubisoft was able to deliver a legendary sequel doesn't make the first seem any better in retrospect to me.

Bioshock Infinite though had my favorite storyline I have ever played through. Finding out you're like the 30th Booker the physicist twins have sent to stop future Booker was pretty mindblowing playing through it. I fully expected something really wild after the Ryan/Atlas plot twist from the first and it was still every bit as surprising to me. Then GTA V is the exact game I was hoping we'd one day see back when I was playing linear side-scrollers on the NES as a kid. It felt like three amazing games in one: a top notch driving game (as opposed to GTA IV whose driving felt like shit), an awesome 3rd person shooter campaign, and then maybe the greatest sandbox ever released. And then GTA V is unbelievable graphically on top of all that. I can't believe how amazing the game looked on the XBox 360. The first thing I did on that game was go hike up the mountains for the great views. To get that kind of draw distance when you had that much going on and doing it on a dying console like the 360 was pretty incredible.

I think 2004 deserves a spot on this list too. Half Life 2 and GTA San Andreas alone are enough. But then add Unreal Tournament 2004, NFL 2k5, Far Cry, Halo 2, MGS 3 Snake Eater. 1998 is definitely tough to beat too. I'd probably rank them

1. 2013
2. 2007
3. 1998
4. 2004

I actually need to finish BioShock Infinite, I actually can't remember why I got side tracked. GTA V is obviously the best one, but really I expect the best francishes to get better over time. I probably enjoyed V as much as VC and SA.

You gotta play Mass Effect. The original will always be the greatest to me since they turned the sequels into rejected AAA titles. God of War II was the best in the series, maybe top 3 PS2 game for me.

[baseline bum]

I actually need to finish BioShock Infinite, I actually can't remember why I got side tracked. GTA V is obviously the best one, but really I expect the best francishes to get better over time. I probably enjoyed V as much as VC and SA.

You gotta play Mass Effect. The original will always be the greatest to me since they turned the sequels into rejected AAA titles. God of War II was the best in the series, maybe top 3 PS2 game for me.

The God of War series is one of the main reasons I got a PS4. I loved the first two on PS2 but since I was of the XBox religion in the seventh generation I never played the third. Thankfully it got a 60 fps remaster on PS4. Man I really can't wait for the God of War they showed off at E3 this year.

[midnightpulp]

Ocarina of Time kind of felt like a "hand holding" game that you rail against though, with the Deku Tree and Navi telling you what to do. Fallout 2 though, that's right there with Skyrim for the best RPG I have ever played (although Fallout 2 is much truer to the genre). And then Half Life is probably the best FPS ever released for its time. That shit aged like Duncan, I had a blast playing it again a few months ago. :lol

It was. And the late 90s/00s definitely started that trend toward the on-rails games we have today, but the gameplay was revolutionary for the time and still holds up perfectly today. Not to mention the art design and the overall sense of "adventure" you get. I actually first played it in '10 so no nostalgia speaking here. I thought the N64 was a pile of shit back in the day and never picked one up. Still is, from a tech standpoint, I suppose. Hated/still hate the N64 "fog" and of course going cartridge-only limited them drastically. No way could you get something like Metal Gear Solid on the system. However, Mario 64 did blow me away when I first saw it.

[vander]

Sorry brah...2007.
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Mass Effect
Crysis
Assassins Creed
Portal
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The Witcher
BioShock
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Uncharted
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Wow, the beginning of all of those series in one year, that's crazy
Mass Effect 1 and Bioshock 1 alone are enough for my blue ribbon.

[Joseph Kony]

Witcher 3 came out last year so that automatically makes it the best year for gaming tbh

[baseline bum]

Witcher 3 came out last year so that automatically makes it the best year for gaming tbh

2015 was really strong:

The Witcher 3
Dying Light
Bloodborne
Fallout 4
MGS V Phantom Pain
GTA V for PC

Not 2013 level but way better than 2014 or 2016.

[Bynumite]

Defintely 2007 imho. Perfect balance between great new IP's and established names in gaming.

MW1 alone changed the genre with its create a class system.

Besides an handful of titles, 2013 is kinda meh.

[midnightpulp]

Defintely 2007 imho. Perfect balance between great new IP's and established names in gaming.

MW1 alone changed the genre with its create a class system.

Besides an handful of titles, 2013 is kinda meh.

Rainbow Six/Rogue Spear did this in 1998/99 (but yeah, if you were referring to CoD's perk and killstreak system, then I agree. Don't think that was ever in an FPS up until that point).

http://oi66.tinypic.com/kagq9t.jpg

Why I highlighted Rainbow Six as an innovator. Basically invented the tactical FPS.

[leemajors]

class systems were in the quake 1 mod Team Fortress in 96. that mod was the shit.

[DMC]

^ Nice call, had no idea so many games of that caliber came out in the same year. I played the shit out of so many on that list, including some you didn't have highlighted, like Age of Empires and Delta Force.

But damn... Unreal, Half-Life, Freespace, Baldur's Gate, Starcraft, Ocarina of Time... all legends.

What was your name in DF?

[Xevious]

What was your name in DF?
Probably Xevious. Have used that screen name for years.

[DJR210]

Rainbow Six/Rogue Spear did this in 1998/99 (but yeah, if you were referring to CoD's perk and killstreak system, then I agree. Don't think that was ever in an FPS up until that point).

http://oi66.tinypic.com/kagq9t.jpg

Why I highlighted Rainbow Six as an innovator. Basically invented the tactical FPS.

Man rainbow six on dreamcast was my shit

[DMC]

Probably Xevious. Have used that screen name for years.

Were you in any clans?

[Xevious]

Were you in any clans?

Neg, not on DF. The only FPS I did any competitive clan play was the original Unreal Tournament. Quake 2 very briefly also.

[baseline bum]

I actually need to finish BioShock Infinite, I actually can't remember why I got side tracked. GTA V is obviously the best one, but really I expect the best francishes to get better over time. I probably enjoyed V as much as VC and SA.

You gotta play Mass Effect. The original will always be the greatest to me since they turned the sequels into rejected AAA titles. God of War II was the best in the series, maybe top 3 PS2 game for me.

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[jeebus]

It's 1998 and it's not a discussion, due to the truth nukes that mid dropped. Every other year is the equivalent of getting a box of used condoms that your mom received from the streets.

[resistanze]

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Cautious about this shit until I see it. I'm hoping to treat it as a fresh start, and hopefully it'll work out.

[resistanze]

Bioshock Infinite

wtf is up with the framerate of this game tbh? Peaks at 180, but has these annoying drops to 35-40 fps

[baseline bum]

wtf is up with the framerate of this game tbh? Peaks at 180, but has these annoying drops to 35-40 fps

Wow, something must be really wrong with your shit because I never had drops below 60 fps and my cpu isn't OC (it's at 3.6 GHz). Plus I think you have a better 970 than I do. I can actually run that shit at a locked 60 fps on ultra even if I disable two cores and the hyperthreading on my cpu to simulate a 3.8 GHz Haswell Pentium man.

[resistanze]

Wow, something must be really wrong with your shit because I never had drops below 60 fps and my cpu isn't OC (it's at 3.6 GHz). Plus I think you have a better 970 than I do. I can actually run that shit at a locked 60 fps on ultra even if I disable two cores and the hyperthreading on my cpu to simulate a 3.8 GHz Haswell Pentium man.

4690k OC'd to 4.0Ghz. But this problem been reported online. You were on Ultra settings I assume?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1bk2xr/if_youre_having_stutteringframe_drop_issues_in/
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605053-bioshock-infinite/65793808
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/bioshock-infinite-fps-dipssttuters-fix-29372095/

[baseline bum]

4690k OC'd to 4.0Ghz. But this problem been reported online. You were on Ultra settings I assume?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1bk2xr/if_youre_having_stutteringframe_drop_issues_in/
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605053-bioshock-infinite/65793808
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/bioshock-infinite-fps-dipssttuters-fix-29372095/

Is it only Bioshock Infinite doing this on your system? Because it runs absolutely perfect for me with all settings completely maxed, and I fucking hate microstutter and frame drops to even 55 fps and would notice them immediately. I don't even get those kind of drops if I use DSR to render at 1440p. That sounds more like the performance I get if I render the game at 4k ultra.

And what's the point of running a 4690k at only 4 GHz man? What is that, like a 100 MHz overclock? :lol

Maybe try the nosteam.ro version of the game? (including all patches) That's the one I'm using and it's flawless. If you got say an old version of the game off piratebay and didn't apply any patches maybe that would explain things.

[resistanze]

Is it only Bioshock Infinite doing this on your system? Because it runs absolutely perfect for me with all settings completely maxed, and I fucking hate microstutter and frame drops to even 55 fps and would notice them immediately. I don't even get those kind of drops if I use DSR to render at 1440p. That sounds more like the performance I get if I render the game at 4k ultra.

And what's the point of running a 4690k at only 4 GHz man? What is that, like a 100 MHz overclock? :lol

Maybe try the nosteam.ro version of the game? (including all patches) That's the one I'm using and it's flawless. If you got say an old version of the game off piratebay and didn't apply any patches maybe that would explain things.

:lol 4.4 had it at 4.4 Ghz before I formatted PC and resetted bios, now too lazy to find the proper voltage settings etc. It's so overpowered that I don't see the point.

Mine is the original FLT version and I was hoping to find the patches online, no luck so far. I may go that route with nosteam.

[baseline bum]

Mine is the original FLT version and I was hoping to find the patches online, no luck so far. I may go that route with nosteam.

That's gotta be it then. You'll never have a PC game perform worth a shit without later patches these days. :lol

http://www.nosteam.ro/index.php?topic=1657.msg31958

[NASpurs]

From the looks of it, it looks like this year is approaching probably top 5 when it's all said and done.

Well top five is probably pushing it but there's already a ton of GOTY candidates (Zelda, Nier, Nioh, Persona 5, Horizon), Resident Evil 7, and games like Metal Gear Survive, Red Dead 2, Destiny 2, Super Mario Odyssey, Shenmue 3, Gran Turismo Sport. Tekken 7, and Prey (Bethesda!) haven't been released. Too bad about Mass Effect though.

[apalisoc_9]

From the looks of it, it looks like this year is approaching probably top 5 when it's all said and done.

Well top five is probably pushing it but there's already a ton of GOTY candidates (Zelda, Nier, Nioh, Persona 5, Horizon), Resident Evil 7, and games like Metal Gear Survive, Red Dead 2, Destiny 2, Super Mario Odyssey, Shenmue 3, Gran Turismo Sport. Tekken 7, and Prey (Bethesda!) haven't been released. Too bad about Mass Effect though.
85% of that list is PS exclusives.

Wouldbt surprise me if god of was isnreleased holidays 2017.

[Reck]

Metal Gear Survive. :lmao

That piece of shit will flop and it won't even be close. How is Konami even still around?

[baseline bum]

Metal Gear Survive. :lmao

That piece of shit will flop and it won't even be close. How is Konami even still around?

Yeah fuck Konami. I can't picture that being decent without Kojima. Speaking of Kojima, I wonder if Death Stranding will get a 2018 release. It's supposed to use the Horizon Zero Dawn engine.

[baseline bum]

85% of that list is PS exclusives.

Wouldbt surprise me if god of was isnreleased holidays 2017.

Doesn't sound like God of War will be coming this year. As much as I hate to say it, PC is taking a big L for 2017. Will PC get any of the top 5 games of the year? No Zelda, no Horizon, no RDR2, no Nioh, no Super Mario Odyssey, no Persona 5. Right now it's looking like Nier Automata could be the PC highpoint for 2017. Fucking sucks because PC is still my preferred platform by far. :pctoss

[baseline bum]

As opposed to 2013 where 6 of those 9 games I listed came out immediately on PC, and then GTA V came out on PC a year and a half later to make it 7/9.

[NASpurs]

85% of that list is PS exclusives.

Wouldbt surprise me if god of was isnreleased holidays 2017.

As well being mostly Japanese thus explaining the PS4 exclusivity. 2017 has been the Renaissance of the Japanese developers.

[NASpurs]

Well Destiny 2 was just confirmed for the PC today.

http://kotaku.com/destiny-2-officially-revealed-confirmed-for-pc-1793838721

[baseline bum]

Well Destiny 2 was just confirmed for the PC today.

http://kotaku.com/destiny-2-officially-revealed-confirmed-for-pc-1793838721

Wasn't the first one really mediocre though?

[NASpurs]

Wasn't the first one really mediocre though?

I don't have personal experience with the game but apparently it was on an upward trajectory throughout it's life. It started out super mediocre but then through patches and DLC, it went from mediocre to really good. People who initially paid $60 for the game when it was released said they were practically "beta testers". Those who came in later and started out from scratch with the patches and DLC already out, got the good Destiny.

http://kotaku.com/this-week-destiny-got-a-hell-of-a-lot-better-1706391634
http://www.polygon.com/features/2016/7/5/12079326/destiny-rise-of-iron-preview-interview

I guess it's a game to at least keep your eye out assuming that Bungie learned what to do and what not to do in the first game. But yeah, your guess is as good as mine.

[DMC]

Falcon 4.0 "that was a real goat rope"

I played Falcon 3.0, loaded from 3.5" disks. Had to use a null modem cable to play head to head (and cart your desktop to a friend's house, the beginning of mobile computing). If you had the turbo button, your game played faster (like ffwd on a movie).

Ah the high UMB days, spending hours on config.sys to get sound.