Game Thread: 12/20 Spurs at Rockets 7 PM CST (8:00 EST, 3:00 AM Riga Time)

[SAGirl]

Hard for me to see the upward trend from Manu. And I don't remember seeing Kawhi play a worse game ever.

But for Manu and Kawhi's back-to-back TOs, Spurs would have a decent lead.
Acknowledged on both,
but I meant Manu had been shooting so poorly in a few games that seeing his shooting % go up to me is trending up. But I agree he's not helpful when he tries to do too much...
This is just a horrible Kiwi game.

[spurtech09]

Manu misses 2 FTs.....Pssshhh

[Ron Swanson]

Manu noooooooooo

[loveforthegame]

Get the ball to your best ft shooter.

[boutons_deux]

Holy fuckin shit, what a finish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pocho La Pantera]

Fts ffs

[Darius Bieber]

HOW MANY MOTHERFUCKERS QUIT ON THEIR TEAM THIS GAME.

HOW MANY.

YOU FUCKING KNOW IT.


Lmao Spurs still gonna lose.

[Leetonidas]

Choke...

[james evans]

ginobli just had a good game and fucked it all up. FUCK YOU!!!

[Quiet Strength]

Manu why?

[sasaint]

Typical Manu clutch ft miss

TWO! :wow

[BatManu20]

Watch us lose on a 3 now. Fucking Manu :lol

[ElNono]

Harden 3 incoming

[DPG21920]

Manu no.

[urunobili]

Manure...

[TE]

:lmao goddamn it Manu

[Ron Swanson]

Here comes the Harden game winner.

[TheRemix]

Manu giveth manu taketh

[Budkin]

Are you fucking serious Manu??

[Kawhitstorm]

Turnobili :lmao

[Richie]

What the hell is happening? Spurs doing everything they can to win, then lose, then win, then lose. Insanity.

[007nites]

Rocket fans leaving

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

lol Manu seriously?

[K...]

I see two faggorts who created "jinx" threads tonight when they were down ten pts in the 4rth

[midnightpulp]

Manure just loves to ruin potentially great wins with either TOs or missed FTs.

[spurtech09]

Don't foul

[Perry Mason]

only 3 seconds left, hard to get a good shot off

[Capt Bringdown]

Yet another choke from Manu

[DPG21920]

What the hell is happening? Spurs doing everything they can to win, then lose, then win, then lose. Insanity.

:lol Perfectly stated.

[Boomersgold]

Lol

[urunobili]

Hate to lose a game on a buzzer beating 3 by Ariza..

[TheRemix]

Harden game winner followed by houston fans all over social media claiming harden is the goat

[skin27]

Manu should give that ball to patty to take freethrows..

[FaM0us Skins]

Wow Manu lol

[Kawhitstorm]

With us lose on a 3 now. Fucking Manu :lol

Kawhi is going to foul Harden shooting a 3.:lol

[spurtech09]

No 3's

[Chris]

Ugh cmon Defense

[boutons_deux]

Manu and KL both missed by FTs. WTF?

[Richie]

This is the ultimate Jekyll and Hyde game for Manu. Horrible turnovers and choked on the line, but hit some big clutch 3s

[TE]

I fully expect the Rox to hit some kind of shot here.

[Trill Clinton]

this team manhttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

[james evans]

We suck 4th quarter at the line.

[Kawhitstorm]

What the hell is happening? Spurs doing everything they can to win, then lose, then win, then lose. Insanity.

Even Tony Allen is laughing watching this game.:lol

[FaM0us Skins]

:bang

[Budkin]

Could have stolen the damn game instead we probably lose on a 3 here.

[Ron Swanson]

Fuck yeah!

[spurtech09]

Wow wild game.....

[TE]

Wow what a win

[bklynspursfan]

Holy cow

[spurspokesman]

Gotta give it up. These guys kept battling

[Kawhitstorm]

I fully expect the Rox to hit some kind of shot here.

Eric Gordon is either going to get a WIDE open 3 or Harden is getting fouled.

[BatManu20]

Holy shit we absolutely stole that game. Goddamn :lol

[Chris]

Omg he missed tough game nigs

[Robz4000]

We lucked the fuck out

[skin27]

We win!!! Go Spurs GO:flag:

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

[marinoman]

Spurs have a knack for missing key free throws over the years

[Budkin]

HOLY SHIT!

[daledondale]

That was close..

[FaM0us Skins]

And it's no GOOD!

[DarrinS]

W

[r0drig0lac]

haha win

[SpurPadre]

Wow...has to be one of the best wins of the year, especially considering Kawhi's bad night and Manu choking at the line.

[Richie]

I fully expect the Rox to hit some kind of shot here.

Tbh we've been awful, deserve to lose this game

[loveforthegame]

Seriously. What a win. I mean how. :lol

[ElNono]

Harden 3 incoming

[Trill Clinton]

great win!

[RD2191]

"Superstar" Harden 10/26 from the floor.

[FaM0us Skins]

Good comeback during the final stretch of the 4th

[Perry Mason]

WHOOOOO

FUCK YOU ROCKETS. all that shimmy celebrating faggot crap.

Course Spurs deserved to lose but for their shooting heroics.

My goodness TP and Kawhi both looked terrible.

[Quiet Strength]

Fuck the rockets and the refs.. GSG

[Budkin]

We had no business winning that game :lmao

[SAGirl]

Kawhi struggled all night. The Rockets are no joke.

I'll take this win.

:flag:

[ElNono]

Thank you for the W, Manu, LDN and PaddyThrills...

[Shipupi]

I waited for the whistle after harden's shot for what seemed like an eternity, thank god

[phxspurfan]

NBATV has so many commercials

[DarrinS]

W

Lol, game thread faggots

[Mnky]

That's a heck of a win with a division foe. 20+ turnovers. Best player playing one of his worse games.. and still able to steal a game you should lose. At least these spurs don't quit.

[ducks]

Gasol had 10 rebounds at half 0 second half

[objective]

Simmons is the best Harden defender straight up that's on the team, no surprises

[BillMc]

Victory:flag:

[Kawhitstorm]

I guess Patty/Danny get the ball game since they were the ones that didn't self-destruct in the 4th quarter.:lol

[spurtech09]

Earlier it was SpursTalk Meltdown now its ....Everything is all good now Spurs Win ......

[DPG21920]

What a game! Clutch, unclutch but a massive road win vs a scorching hot HOU team.

[bklynspursfan]

I know it was ugly, but it shows great resolve to come back against a team like this on the road in the fashion we did.

[resistanze]

https://media.giphy.com/media/11aitZSSRhHYuQ/giphy.gif

[TheRemix]

Just glad we're up 2-1 against houston for now

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Tbh we've been awful, deserve to lose this game

If we were awful, then they were worse so they deserved to lose.

[TheGreatYacht]

Simmons is the best Harden defender straight up that's on the team, no surprises
This x1000

[skin27]

Atleast manu hit big 3's to lead the comeback..him and Danny..

[Kawhitstorm]

Gasol had 10 rebounds at half 0 second half

Uncontested rebounds were hard to come by in the 2nd half since the Rockets weren't throwing up bricks.

[Pauleta14]

Yet another choke from Manu

You take you leave with him...

He's a big reason we won tonight, the pass to Patty to get the lead was a beauty

[TE]

What the fuck was up with Kawhi this game?

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao LkrFan

you gotta go back amigo

[KDKSpurs24]

I can't believe we won.. That was TERRIBLE

[jbspurs]

Awesome!!

[DPG21920]

Tbh we've been awful, deserve to lose this game

I mean, SA did well in the first half. They got punched hard in that third though. Nice recovery and shot making. Flame throwing no conscious Danny is back.

[DarrinS]

Sitting TP. Good decision Pop.

[james evans]

I hope the league changes another rule in the off season. They've stopped the Durant swing thru on the shot, they need to stop this harden coming off the screen throw up a 3 bullshit. They stopped the hackashaq shit to fuck with us, so they need to stop this shit. Mf comes off of a screen, grabs the defender's arms and flails for 3 freethrows

[Kawhitstorm]

What a game! Clutch, unclutch but a massive road win vs a scorching hot HOU team.

Spurs have been the clutchest team in the league this season by the numbers.:toast

[Pocho La Pantera]

Manu put us back in the game, props!

[DarrinS]

Thank you for the W, Manu, LDN and PaddyThrills...

[SpurPadre]

Kawhi struggled all night. The Rockets are no joke.

I'll take this win.

:flag:

True and we're lucky Capela was out but then again, they are lucky they beat us at San Antonio.

[RD2191]

Roxs fans salty as hell on twitter.:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Good shit from Green and Mills there at the end of the game.... won the game

[SpurPadre]

What the fuck was up with Kawhi this game?

Beverley got in his head by saying he's the best defender in the league, tbh.

[jbspurs]

I guess Patty/Danny get the ball game since they were the ones that didn't self-destruct in the 4th quarter.:lol

And Pop for taking out Parker!

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

http://puu.sh/sWc3q/aa0b8b7a08.png
care for close games? lmao

[BillMc]

Nice game by Green.

[Trill Clinton]

Roxs fans salty as hell on twitter.:lol

lol post the tweets

[maverick1948]

19 - 4 run to close the game. That is great work. Defense to offense and back to defense in last 4 minutes

[TheGreatYacht]

Roxs fans salty as hell on twitter.:lol
clutchfans . Com

go

[rasuo214]

Good win, some clutch 3s there late.

[sasaint]

Acknowledged on both,
but I meant Manu had been shooting so poorly in a few games that seeing his shooting % go up to me is trending up. But I agree he's not helpful when he tries to do too much...
This is just a horrible Kiwi game.

Seriously Manu is a great spot-up 3-point shooter. He could become a mini-Horry and prolong his career IF he would Just resign himself to that role. But as long as he insists on doing ANYTHING more, he is a liability more times than not. Pop needs to forget the "because he's Manu Ginobili" schtick and put his foot down with the guy.

I just wonder if Kawhi has some little injury or something going on in his personal life: maybe the new baby isn't letting Kawhi get enough sleep. :lol

[Pocho La Pantera]

And Pop for taking out Parker! that was the key.

[Budkin]

Roxs fans salty as hell on twitter.:lol

You should see ClutchFans. That's where I am right now. :lol

[BillMc]

Might be a highly entertaining series if these teams meet in the playoffs.

[Ron Swanson]

:lmao LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)

you gotta go back amigo

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Ok now for Bobo to do us a solid and shit on the dubs...

[Kawhitstorm]

Holy shit we absolutely stole that game. Goddamn :lol

This is the type of game the Grizz have been living off this season.:lol

[Robz4000]

God damn this game took years off my life and it's the regular season. Great win but the softness of our starting bigs rubs off on the whole team. Nice to win when Kawhi plays as awful as he did.

[r0drig0lac]

clutchfans . Com

go

this

[Pocho La Pantera]

Seriously Manu is a great spot-up 3-point shooter. He could become a mini-Horry and prolong his career IF he would Just resign himself to that role. But as long as he insists on doing ANYTHING more, he is a liability more times than not. Pop needs to forget the "because he's Manu Ginobili" schtick and put his foot down with the guy.

I just wonder if Kawhi has some little injury or something going on in his personal life: maybe the new baby isn't letting Kawhi get enough sleep. :lol

I honestly he had 3 steals, 3 assists and 4 rebounds, is that bad?

[SAGirl]

That's a heck of a win with a division foe. 20+ turnovers. Best player playing one of his worse games.. and still able to steal a game you should lose. At least these spurs don't quit.
Not Just the TO, but they gave up over 20+ offensive boards too.

[Robz4000]

Might be a highly entertaining series if these teams meet in the playoffs.

:lol every game has been close with both teams having huge leads at times

[DarrinS]

Fuck James Harden, btw.

[BillMc]

:lol every game has been close with both teams having huge leads at times

Good theater indeed.

[Arcadian]

:lmao Rockets...faggots

:lmao Cliff jumpers

[beirmeistr]

thank God for Patty Mills.

[pgardn]

I get a good laugh on here reading the bipolar posts from some of you


That's game.


This team is full of fucking retards tbh

Man, we aren't winning a chip in a LONG time.


We aren't winning one ever again.


This game is over!! Everytime they drive to the basket is a fucking foul..


There's too much to criticize about the Spurs right now. I'm pretty sure you all have gotten much of that this entire thread.

Boneheaded stupid turnovers...fucking stupid ass decisions. Loss is on Pop.


This game is like the bulls game!!!


Game over. Fuck this pathetic team.


thats game.


`Blowout coming up.



This is not even half of the invertebrates.
Bunch o Rats jumping ship and drowning.

[Kawhitstorm]

Might be a highly entertaining series if these teams meet in the playoffs.

This was a weird game in that Kawhi/LMA didn't have good games & the Rockets were miserable from the 3-point line. But I guess, I would trust the Spurs more in close games which is how most playoff games tend to be unless it's an obvious mismatch.

[bklynspursfan]

That might be as close to payback for T-Macs craziness against us that we'll get.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Kawhi you fucking retard. That's game


They just blew it. Unreal.


What a horrible loss. Spurs taking steps back instead of forward.


thats game.


`Blowout coming up.


Spurs gonna have a four game losing streak. They'll lose easily against the Clippers, Portland, and the Bulls too. Fuck this team.


Game over. Fuck this pathetic team.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

[Robz4000]

Good theater indeed.

For my health though I hope the Spurs stomp them should they meet in the postseason.

[sasaint]

he had 3 steals, 3 assists and 4 rebounds, is that bad?

And some awful and untimely TOs.

[BillMc]

thank God for Patty Mills.

More divine than the Holy Hand Grenade.

[sasaint]

That might be as close to payback for T-Macs craziness against us that we'll get.

:lol But not very close to THAT craziness.

[Pocho La Pantera]

And some awful and untimely TOs. yes, but he was very important in the fourth.

[BillMc]

For my health though I hope the Spurs stomp them should they meet in the postseason.

I understand. I was screaming aloud for a regular season game. :lol I guess there's worse ways to go out than watching exciting playoff games.

[bklynspursfan]

This is not even half of the invertebrates.
Bunch o Rats jumping ship and drowning.

Like clock work here

[Trill Clinton]

This is not even half of the invertebrates.
Bunch o Rats jumping ship and drowning.

frustration comes with being a die hard fan, fam. i wear my emotions on my sleeve.

[Kawhitstorm]

What the fuck was up with Kawhi this game?

It seemed like he was sleepwalking but the entire team was pretty sloppy & getting outhustled for the majority of the game. Kawhi's new found prowess to get to the line is what saved him from being a complete disaster on offense.

[bklynspursfan]

:lol But not very close to THAT craziness.

Not at all. That kinda comeback is once in a lifetime

[Capt Bringdown]

LMA continues his Vin Baker imitation. Leonard shit the bed. Manu choked.
Clutch shooting from Green and Patty.

[skin27]

Thank god kawhi didn't force that shot..he pass it to manu that led to a patty 3..

[DarrinS]

That was some entertaining shit tho

[BillMc]

This was a weird game in that Kawhi/LMA didn't have good games & the Rockets were miserable from the 3-point line. But I guess, I would trust the Spurs more in close games which is how most playoff games tend to be unless it's an obvious mismatch.

It might be like all those Suns series from last decade. Entertaining but Spurs always out last D'Antoni.

[Holden_Caulfield]

man that was intense. great win.

[pgardn]

Spurs fans bailing out already...lol.......This game is not even over....


Rockets are about to abuse gasol right here last 2 minutes


now everything falls apart again.....


They just blew it. Unreal.


Leonard suxks


Welp.


What a horrible loss. Spurs taking steps back instead of forward.










HOW MANY MOTHERFUCKERS QUIT ON THEIR TEAM THIS GAME.

HOW MANY.

YOU FUCKING KNOW IT.

Not only gave up. But admonished others for it.
Note the worms.

We played really poorly. But for God's sakes. We know the rockets and I thought we knew the Spurs.

[sasaint]

This was a weird game in that Kawhi/LMA didn't have good games & the Rockets were miserable from the 3-point line. But I guess, I would trust the Spurs more in close games which is how most playoff games tend to be unless it's an obvious mismatch.

Yep, neither team played true to form. If you were handicapping a horse you would just throw out this race as totally anomalous. Glad we got the W, but honestly the only take-away from this game is what was the deal with Kawhi?!?!?!

[Kawhitstorm]

Beverley got in his head by saying he's the best defender in the league, tbh.

More like Dennis Scott saying he could be like Paul George got him motivated to do an impersonation.:lol

[DPG21920]

frustration comes with being a die hard fan, fam. i wear my emotions on my sleeve.

Ya - especially in a game like this where you blow a lead and really go ice cold, it's tough. SA fans hate HOU too so it's tough. This game is a loss 95/100 times and people are going to be upset, but it was an amazing win even with some what appeared to be back breaking moments at the end.

However, I like what Im seeing with this team's demeanor. They stay clam like Kawhi and just chip away and fight. Watching Danny/Patty throw flames is awesome.

[BillMc]

Re-watching the 4th quarter. To hell with sleep.

[SAGirl]

Seriously Manu is a great spot-up 3-point shooter. He could become a mini-Horry and prolong his career IF he would Just resign himself to that role. But as long as he insists on doing ANYTHING more, he is a liability more times than not. Pop needs to forget the "because he's Manu Ginobili" schtick and put his foot down with the guy.

I just wonder if Kawhi has some little injury or something going on in his personal life: maybe the new baby isn't letting Kawhi get enough sleep. :lol

I think Kawhi just had a bad game. It happens sometimes.

I am convinced by now Manu is gonna Manu. Pop can't reign him in except sitting him down and he's not going to do that.

Manu is gonna want to be himself but mind and body are not as one right now. I have though same as you he needs to spot up more but he likes the ball, he wants to do his stuff, and I think if you told him he can't be himself it's going to be time to retire. Just got to enjoy him. I suspect it's the last season. And I have a feeling that when he does retire Ill miss him same as Tim.

[SpurPadre]

Good win and all but we gotta call out Manu for missing those free throws. Haven't they learned from 6? Ice the fucking game when you have the fucking chance!

[Perry Mason]

Not Just the TO, but they gave up over 20+ offensive boards too.


That's something the Spurs cause themselves with all the switching.

[SpurPadre]

More like Dennis Scott saying he could be like Paul George got him motivated to do an impersonation.:lol

Scott actually said that about Kawhi?!

[Kawhitstorm]

Yep, neither team played true to form. If you were handicapping a horse you would just throw out this race as totally anomalous. Glad we got the W, but honestly the only take-away from this game is what was the deal with Kawhi?!?!?!

I'm going to chalk it up as just one of those sloppy games everyone has when they aren't locked-in, LeBron had a similar type of game against the Bucks when Giannis actually also had his way on the other end. At least Kawhi was active on defense & didn't let his offensive struggles get to him.

[DPG21920]

And look, Kawhi struggled, but it wasn't effort. He gritted out his points by getting to the line, he rebounded and assisted some and had many good defensive moments when needed.

[Mnky]

Not Just the TO, but they gave up over 20+ offensive boards too.

Their role players down low had big games. Nene and harrell both shot near perfect games. Very gritty win. Great call to have Mills close. Not sure I like Manu out there to close though, I know he was hot, but man he makes horrible decisions these days..

[Trill Clinton]

Ya - especially in a game like this where you blow a lead and really go ice cold, it's tough. SA fans hate HOU too so it's tough. This game is a loss 95/100 times and people are going to be upset, but it was an amazing win even with some what appeared to be back breaking moments at the end.

However, I like what Im seeing with this team's demeanor. They stay clam like Kawhi and just chip away and fight. Watching Danny/Patty throw flames is awesome.

exactly. i understand being optimistic but this team makes me nervous in games like this. i haven't put my 100% trust in them like previous years and like you said, against a team like the rockets it just makes me even more anxious. it was good to see danny finally get out of his funk and i hope this is the beginning of him coming back to his 3 and D form again too. just a gritty tough win.

[sasaint]

LMA continues his Vin Baker imitation. Leonard shit the bed. Manu choked.
Clutch shooting from Green and Patty.

:tu Thanks, I really didn't want to wait for the game grades on this game in particular. :lol

[BillMc]

Danny Green and Patty Mills, heroes of the game. (I'd include Manu but those free throws...)

[SAGirl]

Danny Green and Patty Mills, heroes of the game. (I'd include Manu but those free throws...) and some bad TO
:tu

[Mikeanaro]

Spurs D was horrible but so refs, I really take this Win.

[BatManu20]

Off-topic, but the score of the Dubs-Utah game is 4-2 with 6 minutes left in the game. Both teams are a combined 2/26 from the field :lol

[Mnky]

And look, Kawhi struggled, but it wasn't effort. He gritted out his points by getting to the line, he rebounded and assisted some and had many good defensive moments when needed.

I saw a different game. Kawhi looked like he didn't have much effort at all. Most of his drives ended up in backing his player up instead of getting to the rim, his shot just didn't look smooth, his close out's were atrocious.. looks like the season of being no. 1 is weighing down on him mentally tbh.

[spurs10]

Man the Spurs kept playing! Happy for this win! :flag:

[pgardn]

Manu did what he has always done.

Drive us crazy.
He was part of the comeback.

The cool thing is he puts it on his shoulders and if he is shit, so be it. He hates to lose, he is clearly not the player he was, but some things don't change.

[sasaint]

I think Kawhi just had a bad game. It happens sometimes.

I am convinced by now Manu is gonna Manu. Pop can't reign him in except sitting him down and he's not going to do that.

Manu is gonna want to be himself but mind and body are not as one right now. I have though same as you he needs to spot up more but he likes the ball, he wants to do his stuff, and I think if you told him he can't be himself it's going to be time to retire. Just got to enjoy him. I suspect it's the last season. And I have a feeling that when he does retire Ill miss him same as Tim.

What I believe is obviously moot. But I wish Pop would just tell Manu that the team needs him to be a spot-up 3-point specialist and cut the rest of the heroics. We will never know how that might work out because Pop will never have that talk with Manu, and Manu will not do it on his own. We have ball handlers/playmakers, but we could use a modern-day Horry.

[boutons_deux]

Interesting that Pop went with PM as PG closer.

[BatManu20]

Not only gave up. But admonished others for it.
Note the worms.

We played really poorly. But for God's sakes. We know the rockets and I thought we knew the Spurs.

Lol me saying "Welp" was not admitting loss bud. I posted that after we came out of a timeout and gave up 4 straight easy points & then a turnover.

[pgardn]

Interesting that Pop went with PM as PG closer.

This is not the first time.

[sasaint]

I think Kawhi just had a bad game. It happens sometimes.

I am convinced by now Manu is gonna Manu. Pop can't reign him in except sitting him down and he's not going to do that.

Manu is gonna want to be himself but mind and body are not as one right now. I have though same as you he needs to spot up more but he likes the ball, he wants to do his stuff, and I think if you told him he can't be himself it's going to be time to retire. Just got to enjoy him. I suspect it's the last season. And I have a feeling that when he does retire Ill miss him same as Tim.

Sure, everybody has a bad game from time to time. But the way it was a bad game is what makes it seem different to me. I think Kawhi seemed lackadaisical/disengaged, which I don't see from him ever.

[ElNono]

And look, Kawhi struggled, but it wasn't effort. He gritted out his points by getting to the line, he rebounded and assisted some and had many good defensive moments when needed.

Completely agree.

[Mikeanaro]

What I believe is obviously moot. But I wish Pop would just tell Manu that the team needs him to be a spot-up 3-point specialist and cut the rest of the heroics. We will never know how that might work out because Pop will never have that talk with Manu, and Manu will not do it on his own. We have ball handlers/playmakers, but we could use a modern-day Horry.
We have lame playmakers and 40 year old Manu is the only one that can break the mold when Spurs are out of ideas, also he is like the only slasher this team has, if the other players acted like big boys but no we must depend on old Manu to invent some shit out of nowhere...

[DPG21920]

Why people care about fans in the heat of the moment getting upset is beyond me :lol. We all love the Spurs, we get invested into it and when things look bleak it's frustrating.

But that is why sports are fun, right?

[pgardn]

Lol me saying "Welp" was not admitting loss bud. I posted that after we came out of a timeout and gave up 4 straight easy points & then a turnover.

Oh.

So Thats the ticket.

Just crack some 2x4s over your head and destroy your house like I do. No one notices when the family is out. No welping dammit.

[ElNono]

I think Kawhi just had a bad game. It happens sometimes.

I am convinced by now Manu is gonna Manu. Pop can't reign him in except sitting him down and he's not going to do that.

Manu is gonna want to be himself but mind and body are not as one right now. I have though same as you he needs to spot up more but he likes the ball, he wants to do his stuff, and I think if you told him he can't be himself it's going to be time to retire. Just got to enjoy him. I suspect it's the last season. And I have a feeling that when he does retire Ill miss him same as Tim.

Is this some kind of schtick, tbh? :lol

Simms and Bertrans couldn't stop passing up shots. They got the minutes, they just gotta play better if they want more consistent minutes and a bigger role. The Bertrans/Anderson situation is kinda worrisome actually. I get Davis is on his first year, but you get a shot you gotta take advantage...

[pgardn]

Why people care about fans in the heat of the moment getting upset is beyond me :lol. We all love the Spurs, we get invested into it and when things look bleak it's frustrating.

But that is why sports are fun, right?

Not everyone posting here loves the Spurs.

I find it interesting how spineless we become during entertainment.

[Mikeanaro]

Is this some kind of schtick, tbh? :lol

Simms and Bertrans couldn't stop passing up shots. They got the minutes, they just gotta play better if they want more consistent minutes and a bigger role. The Bertrans/Anderson situation is kinda worrisome actually. I get Davis is on his first year, but you get a shot you gotta take advantage...
I was thinking just the same, its like a Whack-a-Manu thing and he is not the main reason why Fathead is out of the rotation.

[DPG21920]

Not everyone posting here loves the Spurs.

I find it interesting how spineless we become during entertainment.

It's not about being spineless. We have no impact on the game. It's about the emotional investment and when things are going poorly you get dejected. These aren't disciplined pro athletes - they are fans. Sure, it's nice not to melt down, but fans aren't usually a rational group.

[sasaint]

We have lame playmakers and 40 year old Manu is the only one that can break the mold when Spurs are out of ideas, also he is like the only slasher this team has, if the other players acted like big boys but no we must depend on old Manu to invent some shit out of nowhere...

Actually, I must admit you are right. My original comment is more an expression of frustration that we do not have a real slasher/creator who could effectively assume those responsibilities. Manu has become increasingly unreliable, and he will not bail out the Spurs consistently enough in the playoffs. There's that, plus the fact that he is a deadly spot-up 3-point shot. If we had somebody to create, Manu could become a mini-Horry for another 2-3 years and really help out the Spurs in that re-defined role.

[Ron Swanson]

I was one who thought we were going to lose the game late in the 4th. I was wrong and was happy to be wrong. Oh well.

[HarlemHeat37]

What's the point of calling people out in game threads, tbh? Any Spurs fan that posts on a Spurs forum obviously cheers for the team:lol..reactions in a live game thread aren't coming from the brain:lol

[kaji157]

I didn´t see the game, just the "recap" but Manu did hit 3 3´s in the fourth and didn´t turn over the ball a lot (2 times) same as mills, green and pau, and 5 less than Kawhi.

I don´t get hows that a choke. He did miss 2 key free trows but its been years now he is not money anymore from the line.

It also doesnt seem like a high turnover game from him, nor he shot bad percentages.

[pgardn]

It's not about being spineless. We have no impact on the game. It's about the emotional investment and when things are going poorly you get dejected. These aren't disciplined pro athletes - they are fans. Sure, it's nice not to melt down, but fans aren't usually a rational group.

Of course we don't. Who said that.

After all these games you give up. I actually thought we could win game 7 against Miami knowing full well what I believe has no bearing on the game. Melting down is much more understandable IMO.

[Mikeanaro]

Actually, I must admit you are right. My original comment is more an expression of frustration that we do not have a real slasher/creator who could effectively assume those responsibilities. Manu has become increasingly unreliable, and he will not bail out the Spurs consistently enough in the playoffs. There's that, plus the fact that he is a deadly spot-up 3-point shot. If we had somebody to create, Manu could become a mini-Horry for another 2-3 years and really help out the Spurs in that re-defined role.
Exactly, a mini-Horry or mini-Ray Allen type of player, I like Simmons chances as a slasher given his athleticism, and Kawhi is a slasher sometimes and sometimes prefers jumpers, but when jumpers are not working you must penetrate and Kaw doesnt switch.
As for playmakers we really need one ASAP because Manu wont be forever, we have great passers but is not the same thing.

[DPG21920]

Manu's the reason the spurs won the game but almost lost the game but ended up winning the game ... per par

Classic hemann summary

[kaji157]

Actually, I must admit you are right. My original comment is more an expression of frustration that we do not have a real slasher/creator who could effectively assume those responsibilities. Manu has become increasingly unreliable, and he will not bail out the Spurs consistently enough in the playoffs. There's that, plus the fact that he is a deadly spot-up 3-point shot. If we had somebody to create, Manu could become a mini-Horry for another 2-3 years and really help out the Spurs in that re-defined role.

More like a taller Kerr, but yes.

[pgardn]

I don't see that player on our team.

Its really gonna be tough. But who knows. Maybe we get matched up well in the playoffs like the Dubs in their championship but without their talent.

[sasaint]

Exactly, a mini-Horry or mini-Ray Allen type of player, I like Simmons chances as a slasher given his athleticism, and Kawhi is a slasher sometimes and sometimes prefers jumpers, but when jumpers are not working you must penetrate and Kaw doesnt switch.
As for playmakers we really need one ASAP because Manu wont be forever, we have great passers but is not the same thing.

Now you depressed me again. That playmaker is not anywhere in the Spurs system, and PATFO will not make the necessary move(s) before next offseason... :depressed

[BatManu20]

Rockets finished 6/38 from 3, the worst % ever in NBA history for a team with at least 38 attempts.

[spurs10]

Rockets finished 6/38 from 3, the worst % ever in NBA history for a team with at least 38 attempts. I'll take it! We all know the adage 'live by the 3...'

[Mikeanaro]

Now you depressed me again. That playmaker is not anywhere in the Spurs system, and PATFO will not make the necessary move(s) before next offseason... :depressed
Yeah but dont worry too much, if this team removes the rust we have a lot of good shooters like Gasol Aldridge Kawhi and others so that will balance better our lack of playmakers its only December and I like our chances.

[Mikeanaro]

Rockets finished 6/38 from 3, the worst % ever in NBA history for a team with at least 38 attempts.
Have a link? I want to rejoice a little

[Arcadian]

:lol Houston getting outgunned by the Spurs from deep

[TE]

This is not even half of the invertebrates.
Bunch o Rats jumping ship and drowning.
No, you fucking idiot. Can't speak for everyone else you quoted, but it's calling out your favorite team when they do stupid shit that amounts to a loss. They didn't deserve to win tonight, but so goes the sports dial.

And like others have pointed out, what we post on here doesn't equate to shit. It merely shows we are fans. And if it so happens someone criticizes the team, it doesn't mean they are jumping ship.

I've been gone for awhile but damn there are still fake keyboard ironmen out there? I thought your kind would be extinct.

[Spurtacular]

Haven't followed this thread, tbh..... Sure I'm repeating, but how about Manu getting the rebound and not outletting the damn ball to Kawhi at the end?

Nah, I'll just go down and miss two free throws badly and let Houston have a chance for the win.

[SAGirl]

What I believe is obviously moot. But I wish Pop would just tell Manu that the team needs him to be a spot-up 3-point specialist and cut the rest of the heroics. We will never know how that might work out because Pop will never have that talk with Manu, and Manu will not do it on his own. We have ball handlers/playmakers, but we could use a modern-day Horry.
I totally agree and I have expressed the same in some variation or another. I thought Pop would let him struggle through like he let Danny struggle last season and at some point adjust but he won't. If I focus on that it makes me pessimistic.

I could go on about it bc I think it affects others but I would rather not go there. It's really how much Manu can defer to others at times, etc.

[SAGirl]

Is this some kind of schtick, tbh? :lol

Simms and Bertrans couldn't stop passing up shots. They got the minutes, they just gotta play better if they want more consistent minutes and a bigger role. The Bertrans/Anderson situation is kinda worrisome actually. I get Davis is on his first year, but you get a shot you gotta take advantage...
It's not. I really believe it. I actually mentioned Manu was trending up since at least he's making shots if you read my posts above. If Manu hadn't played believe you me someone else would have stepped up. Someone tends to do that in games he's sat. Guys defer to him a lot when he's in.

[ElNono]

It's not. I really believe it. I actually mentioned Manu was trending up since at least he's making shots if you read my posts above. If Manu hadn't played believe you me someone else would have stepped up. Someone tends to do that in games he's sat. Guys defer to him a lot when he's in.

They had some chances even tonight and stunk it up. They've had plenty chances since the season started and as much I've been rooting for Simms, Davis, Slomo... can you tell me with a straight face any of those guys clearly earned mins over TOSB Manu?

You would think they would be tearing each other throats for a spot that appears at least available, but they all largely have a deer in headlights look.

[spurs10]

They had some chances even tonight and stunk it up. They've had plenty chances since the season started and as much I've been rooting for Simms, Davis, Slomo... can you tell me with a straight face any of those guys clearly earned mins over TOSB Manu?

You would think they would be tearing each other throats for a spot that appears at least available, but they all largely have a deer in headlights look. Well Manu has a competiveness that allows him to keep playing hard even when he screws up. Yeah he turned it over and missed two ft's that could have iced it, but without his steal and drawing in the defensive and making that pass to Patty, we lose. The young guys have a ways to go before they'll have that determination, confidence, and fire.

[SAGirl]

They had some chances even tonight and stunk it up. They've had plenty chances since the season started and as much I've been rooting for Simms, Davis, Slomo... can you tell me with a straight face any of those guys clearly earned mins over TOSB Manu?

You would think they would be tearing each other throats for a spot that appears at least available, but they all largely have a deer in headlights look.

My take is simple. They could all do more but it would invite mistakes as well. They might not be better than this Manu right now just bc they are not better shooters than Manu, the base talent level is different, their skills are different, and Bertans while a true sniper, he's a big so it's an entirely different game.

Anyways, Manu is still a plus contributor, but he does need to defer more. This might just be a bad game to cite bc Kawhi struggled so much anyways and from what I saw, Rockets packed the paint at times. It was also a tough game for Simmons who likes to get to the basket and he passed up shots from the perimeter again.

So it's basically which struggles you can live with. Manu is a HOF player who is still capable of hot shooting nights so for Pop it's better to live through his struggles than the other guys who could be shaky just the same and you just don't know how they will do yet bc they are all new. They all have few minutes playing pro. Ppl cite Kyle 3rd season but he hasn't played a lot of minutes pro, Simms either and Bertans I hear has a pro since he was 15 but it's different league, he's played as a big and that's a different game. I am glad at least Manu's shot is back.

Anyways this discussion is purely hypothetical bc Patty is playing at a high level nightly and the team usually always gets contributions from the bench bigs. It will become a factor only when other teams pack the paint. That's when Simmons lack of outside shooting will become a concern.

[cutewizard]

Wow, what a win!

I was watching this morning until the fourth quarter, where i was sure we were losing,

So i just exited to do some errands and buy groceries.

And, I just entered the internet just now......ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT WE WON???!!!

how good is that! Wow!

Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

[cutewizard]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/12/21/14035788/spurs-ground-red-hot-rockets-with-atomic-shooting-late

[r0drig0lac]

Manu did what he has always done.

Drive us crazy.
He was part of the comeback.

The cool thing is he puts it on his shoulders and if he is shit, so be it. He hates to lose, he is clearly not the player he was, but some things don't change.

[bklynspursfan]

Well Manu has a competiveness that allows him to keep playing hard even when he screws up. Yeah he turned it over and missed two ft's that could have iced it, but without his steal and drawing in the defensive and making that pass to Patty, we lose. The young guys have a ways to go before they'll have that determination, confidence, and fire.

Exactly..

[LkrFan]

:lmao LkrFan

you gotta go back amigo

:lol

[sasaint]

Not at all. That kinda comeback is once in a lifetime

Actually twice in mine. Reggie Miller's going berserk in game one of the 1995 ECF against the Knicks was the wildest game ending I ever saw. Miller scored 8 points in 9 seconds to sink the Knicks. I wasn't really a Knicks fan, but I hated Reggie so much that I was crushed, too. :lol

[bklynspursfan]

Actually twice in mine. Reggie Miller's going berserk in game one of the 1995 ECF against the Knicks was the wildest game ending I ever saw. Miller scored 8 points in 9 seconds to sink the Knicks. I wasn't really a Knicks fan, but I hated Reggie so much that I was crushed, too. :lol

Oh, I saw that live too. Being in NY, I rooted for those 90's Knicks a lot, obv 2nd after the Spurs. I guess I consider what tmac did on another level, but both were incredible.

Reggie's was probably more soul crushing simply because of the rivalry he had with the Knicks/Spike at the time

[sasaint]

Oh, I saw that live too. Being in NY, I rooted for those 90's Knicks a lot, obv 2nd after the Spurs. I guess I consider what tmac did on another level, but both were incredible.

Reggie's was probably more soul crushing simply because of the rivalry he had with the Knicks/Spike at the time

Live? As in at the Garden? Wow, cool!

I guess my perspective would be just the opposite. TMac's 13 pts in 35 seconds was absolutely soul-crushing because I was a real fan of the Spurs. But Reggie's 8 points in only 9 seconds was truly unbelievable. I didn't really react on the same emotional level because I was not nearly as big a fan of the Knicks. But Reggie's having the presence of mind to make the steal and then step back behind the 3-point line for that second trey (not to mention the skill to nail the shot) was mind-blowing under those pressure-packed circumstances.

[still.focused]

Or at least not dribble the ball off his knee...

If you could prevent accidents they wouldnt be any