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Nbadan
12-25-2016, 02:29 AM
The Subpoena That Rocked The Election Is Legal Garbage, Legal Experts Say


The warrant assumes that the mere existence of emails from or to Hillary Clinton is probable cause that a crime occurred.

The warrant connected to the FBI search that Hillary Clinton says cost her the election shouldn’t have been granted, three of the nation’s top legal experts, who reviewed the document released on Tuesday, told The Huffington Post.

FBI Director James Comey shook up the presidential race 11 days before the election by telling Congress the agency had discovered new evidence in its previously closed investigation into the email habits of Clinton, who was significantly ahead in the polls at the time.

When Comey made the announcement, the bureau did not have a warrant to search a laptop that agents believed might contain evidence of criminal activity. The FBI set out to rectify that two days later, on October 30th, when agents applied for a warrant to search the laptop, which was already in the FBI’s possession. The FBI had seized the computer as part of an investigation into former Rep. Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of Clinton aide Huma Abedin.

Clinton’s lead in the polls shrank in the wake of the announcement. Then, just days ahead of election, the FBI announced its search was complete, and it had found no evidence of criminal activity. Clinton officials believe that second announcement damaged her as much as, or more than, the first, by enraging Trump supporters who believed the fix was in.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-subpoena-that-rocked-the-election-is-legal-garbage-attorney-say_us_58597cd9e4b03904470b0633

“The Fourth Amendment requires you to pretty much know that what you’re looking for is there ― not speculation. This is just speculation

Thread
12-25-2016, 06:09 AM
Oh, Comey all ye faithful, joyful & triumphant.

boutons_deux
12-25-2016, 07:44 AM
Scalia elected dubya, Comey elected Trash, what great fucking banana republic, mythologizing itself as a democracy.

and Trash will hurt the world just as bad a dubya, esp Trash's voters.

Thread
12-25-2016, 11:12 AM
Scalia elected dubya, Comey elected Trash, what great fucking banana republic, mythologizing itself as a democracy.

and Trash will hurt the world just as bad a dubya, esp Trash's voters.

& ain't a damn thing you can do about it, Bouts. Trump set Bannon in a room= "Find a way." He found a killing ground twixt Minnesota & New York.

I never thought you'd make a mistake again. But, you did. ha ha.

rmt
12-25-2016, 01:47 PM
Merry Christmas to you and yours.

DMC
12-25-2016, 11:36 PM
I read that Comey found his own suicide note in Hillary's email.

Wild Cobra
12-26-2016, 02:06 AM
The Subpoena That Rocked The Election Is Legal Garbage, Legal Experts Say


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-subpoena-that-rocked-the-election-is-legal-garbage-attorney-say_us_58597cd9e4b03904470b0633

“The Fourth Amendment requires you to pretty much know that what you’re looking for is there ― not speculation. This is just speculation

They don't call them October surprises for no good reason.

Was that harry Reid? Does anyone actually believe anything he says when interviewed?

I simply cannot believe how many libtards are out there. Anyone who is so lax with classified information simply has no moral right to be president of the USA. Maybe president of the USDA, but not the USA.

boutons_deux
12-26-2016, 08:20 AM
What have conservatives, Repugs done for the 99% in the past 40 years?

Thread
12-26-2016, 11:09 AM
I read that Comey found his own suicide note in Hillary's email.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

CosmicCowboy
12-26-2016, 01:30 PM
I read that Comey found his own suicide note in Hillary's email.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Reck
12-26-2016, 02:03 PM
Old man trying to make jokes. That wasn't funny in the least.

CosmicCowboy
12-26-2016, 02:12 PM
Old man trying to make jokes. That wasn't funny in the least.

Probably because you are totally ignorant of the context of the joke.

Reck
12-26-2016, 02:22 PM
Probably because you are totally ignorant of the context of the joke.

Trust me, that's not it.

CosmicCowboy
12-26-2016, 02:24 PM
Trust me, that's not it.

:lol

*Reck frantically searching wikipedia*

TeyshaBlue
12-26-2016, 07:32 PM
Trust me, that's not it.

Go rent a sense of humor. You'll dig it.

TeyshaBlue
12-26-2016, 07:35 PM
“The Fourth Amendment requires you to pretty much know that what you’re looking for is there ― not speculation. This is just speculation
This is pretty much my take. 4th amendment protection is not a fishing license.

Axl Rose
12-26-2016, 08:02 PM
Just know that no one has to answer to any of you forum cucks, nothing will happen to coney because trump is in charge now

TheSanityAnnex
12-26-2016, 08:02 PM
Ben Feuer, chairman of the California Appellate Law Group and a former clerk on the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, told HuffPost that the argument the agent makes for the search warrant “probably would be enough for a ‘reasonable person’ to conclude the laptop could contain evidence of criminal activity, especially given the high-profile nature of the investigation.”

That’s largely because probable cause is a relatively broad standard, Feuer said. As long as law enforcement can articulate why a search, based on evidence they already have, would likely reveal evidence of a crime, “they are probably going to get a warrant,” Feuer argued. That’s especially the case if the investigation is high-profile or if the target is a public servant, as courts tend to favor evidence-collection in those cases.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58597cd9e4b03904470b0633

ElNono
12-26-2016, 08:14 PM
I read that Comey found his own suicide note in Hillary's email.

:lol

pgardn
12-27-2016, 12:08 AM
OP.
It's over.

Donald Trump will be our president. This is the way it works. We have a divided country on a coin flip. It's done. We have an extraordinarily unpopular president elect either way.

Move on.

rmt
12-27-2016, 02:23 AM
OP.
It's over.

Donald Trump will be our president. This is the way it works. We have a divided country on a coin flip. It's done. We have an extraordinarily unpopular president elect either way.

Move on.

I agree with everything except the coin flip (2000 was a coin flip). Didn't Trump flip 6 Obama states?

TheSanityAnnex
12-28-2016, 02:40 PM
OP.
It's over.

Donald Trump will be our president. This is the way it works. We have a divided country on a coin flip. It's done. We have an extraordinarily unpopular president elect either way.

Move on.

It's not over yet.


(Washington DC) – Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton made the following statement regarding today’s ruling (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-kerry-appeal-victory-16-5015/) by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in a case that would require Secretary of State John Kerry to seek the help of the attorney general in recovering additional Hillary Clinton emails:

The courts seem to be fed up with the Obama administration’s refusal to enforce the rule of law on the Clinton emails. Today’s appeals court ruling rejects the Obama State Department’s excuses justifying its failure to ask the attorney general, as the law requires, to pursue the recovery of the Clinton emails. This ruling means that the Trump Justice Department will have to decide if it wants to finally enforce the rule of law and try to retrieve all the emails Clinton and her aides unlawfully took with them when they left the State Department.


The appellate ruling reverses a decision in which the District Court declared “moot” a Judicial Watch’s lawsuit (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-files-lawsuit-against-secretary-of-state-john-kerry-to-force-action-on-clinton-emails/) challenging the failure of Secretary of State John Kerry to comply with the Federal Records Act (FRA) in seeking to recover the emails of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other high level State Department officials who used non-“state.gov” email accounts to conduct official business (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. John F. Kerry (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-kerry-00785-emails/) (No. 16-5015)). According to the FRA, if an agency head becomes aware of “any actual, impending, or threatened unlawful removal . . . or destruction of [agency] records,” he or she “shall notify the Archivist . . . and with the assistance of the Archivist shall initiate action through the Attorney General for the recovery of [those] records.”

An appellate panel found:

Appellants sought the only relief provided by the Federal Records Act—an enforcement action through the Attorney General. But nothing the Department did (either before or after those complaints were filed) gave appellants what they wanted. Instead of proceeding through the Attorney General, the Department asked the former Secretary to return her emails voluntarily and similarly requested that the FBI share any records it obtained. Even though those efforts bore some fruit, the Department has not explained why shaking the tree harder—e.g., by following the statutory mandate to seek action by the Attorney General—might not bear more still. It is therefore abundantly clear that, in terms of assuring government recovery of emails, appellants have not “been given everything [they] asked for.” Absent a showing that the requested enforcement action could not shake loose a few more emails, the case is not moot.

In May 2015 Judicial Watch filed the lawsuit after the State Department failed to take action following a letter (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-kerry-00785-emails-kerry-letter/) to Kerry “notifying him of the unlawful removal of the Clinton emails and requesting that he initiate enforcement action pursuant to the FRA,” including working through the Attorney General to recover the emails. Judicial Watch’s lawsuit subsequently was consolidated with a later lawsuit by Cause of Action Institute. This ruling reverses a January 2016 decision by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia dismissing the case and remands it.

boutons_deux
12-28-2016, 07:48 PM
Former DoJ spokesman: Comey must admit he ‘threw a hand grenade’ into election with Hillary letter

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/former-doj-spokesman-comey-must-admit-he-threw-a-hand-grenade-into-election-with-hillary-letter/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

TheSanityAnnex
12-28-2016, 07:54 PM
Hillary pulled the pin on her own grenade. Stop crying.

Thread
12-29-2016, 04:22 AM
Oh, Comey all ye faithful, joyful & triumphant.

mavsfan1000
12-29-2016, 05:40 AM
Hillary pulled the pin on her own grenade. Stop crying.

boutons_deux
12-29-2016, 06:32 AM
Hillary pulled the pin on her own grenade. Stop crying.

the weekly leaks of emails, and plus Repug Comey's two hit jobs shifted 10Ks if not 100Ks of votes.

You bought every slander and fake news and fabricated controversy

boutons_deux
01-20-2017, 03:57 PM
James Comey spent 15 years looking for a chance to get the Clintons—and it came in November (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/20/1622610/-James-Comey-spent-15-years-looking-for-a-chance-to-get-the-Clintons-and-it-came-in-November)

While we wait for the inauguration of popular vote loser, the unpresidented Donald Trump, more evidence has emerged that today didn’t have to turn out like … today.

Files released by the FBI show that the connection between James Comey and the Clintons was boiling since at least 2001. (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/james-comey-fbi-bill-clinton-233808)

FBI Director James Comey—blamed by many Democrats for costing Hillary Clinton the presidential election last year—was excited about pursuing a criminal investigation into President Bill Clinton's most controversial pardons more than a decade ago, newly released FBI files show.

A FBI memo about the grand jury investigation into Bill Clinton's last-minute pardons of fugitive financiers Marc Rich and Pincus Green says that when Comey was about to take over as the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan in 2001 he expressed strong interest in the case.

"...Comey is enthusiastic about this investigation and supports the proposed investigative plan set forth by AUSA [redacted,]" the FBI message said. The name of the author of the memo was also deleted from the record released publicly but the memo was sent to top officials in the criminal investigative division at FBI headquarters and at the FBI field office in New York.

Comey launched into a wide ranging investigation looking for “bribery, obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy and campaign finance law offenses.”

But despite hundreds of interviews and years of work by the New York FBI office, by 2004 the answer was clear … and familiar.


“While some evidence has been obtained to support [the FBI squad’s] theory of contributions from [Marc] Rich in exchange for the pardon, the investigation, at the present time, is expected to receive a declination of prosecution from the Southern District of New York in the near future.”


Comey wasn’t satisfied with those results. In 2008, he was still complaining about the pardon in a letter to Congress.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/20/1622610/-James-Comey-spent-15-years-looking-for-a-chance-to-get-the-Clintons-and-it-came-in-November

So Comey elected Trash to get back at the Clinton's. EXTREMELY credible, esp looking at the FBI's own docs.

CosmicCowboy
01-20-2017, 04:02 PM
So Obama appointed a sleeper agent to torpedo Hillary? Wow.

rmt
01-20-2017, 04:03 PM
Hillary's past is only part of why she wasn't elected. She didn't have a message - just continuation of Obama's policies without his charisma - shoulda listened to Bill. Trump (like him or not) had lots of messages based on America First.

CosmicCowboy
01-20-2017, 04:07 PM
Crooked Hillary in typical Clinton fashion just couldn't help but be greedy. The accepted pattern is to hold public office, take your victory lap, and then go on the big buck speaking tour. You don't try to go back into public office after accepting millions of dollars of bribes/speaking fees.

boutons_deux
01-20-2017, 04:08 PM
Hillary's past is only part of why she wasn't elected. She didn't have a message - just continuation of Obama's policies without his charisma - shoulda listened to Bill. Trump (like him or not) had lots of messages based on America First.

Comey, Assange, Kobach, SCOTUS, Kock Bros, and still Hillary won by 3m votes.

She was, at very least, the anti-"message" against shitbag Don The Con.

Chucho
01-20-2017, 04:28 PM
Comey, Assange, Kobach, SCOTUS, Kock Bros, and still Hillary won by 3m votes.

She was, at very least, the anti-"message" against shitbag Don The Con.

She didn't win though. Stop spinning the narrative. She spent $50 million before Trump spent $1 million. She had a much bigger machine behind her and she still lost. She is a career politician with far more dirty connections than Trump that got her off 5 Federal Investigations and enabled her to kill her enemies and rape Haiti and she still lost. She lost at the game of politics she has been playing for the last 40 years while the POTUS is a fat headed tool who never played politics. She rigged her Primary and tried rigging the main election and still lost. She is a loser.

TheSanityAnnex
01-20-2017, 06:29 PM
James Comey spent 15 years looking for a chance to get the Clintons—and it came in November (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/20/1622610/-James-Comey-spent-15-years-looking-for-a-chance-to-get-the-Clintons-and-it-came-in-November)

While we wait for the inauguration of popular vote loser, the unpresidented Donald Trump, more evidence has emerged that today didn’t have to turn out like … today.

Files released by the FBI show that the connection between James Comey and the Clintons was boiling since at least 2001. (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/james-comey-fbi-bill-clinton-233808)

FBI Director James Comey—blamed by many Democrats for costing Hillary Clinton the presidential election last year—was excited about pursuing a criminal investigation into President Bill Clinton's most controversial pardons more than a decade ago, newly released FBI files show.

A FBI memo about the grand jury investigation into Bill Clinton's last-minute pardons of fugitive financiers Marc Rich and Pincus Green says that when Comey was about to take over as the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan in 2001 he expressed strong interest in the case.

"...Comey is enthusiastic about this investigation and supports the proposed investigative plan set forth by AUSA [redacted,]" the FBI message said. The name of the author of the memo was also deleted from the record released publicly but the memo was sent to top officials in the criminal investigative division at FBI headquarters and at the FBI field office in New York.

Comey launched into a wide ranging investigation looking for “bribery, obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy and campaign finance law offenses.”

But despite hundreds of interviews and years of work by the New York FBI office, by 2004 the answer was clear … and familiar.


“While some evidence has been obtained to support [the FBI squad’s] theory of contributions from [Marc] Rich in exchange for the pardon, the investigation, at the present time, is expected to receive a declination of prosecution from the Southern District of New York in the near future.”


Comey wasn’t satisfied with those results. In 2008, he was still complaining about the pardon in a letter to Congress.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/20/1622610/-James-Comey-spent-15-years-looking-for-a-chance-to-get-the-Clintons-and-it-came-in-November

So Comey elected Trash to get back at the Clinton's. EXTREMELY credible, esp looking at the FBI's own docs.




:lol EXTREMELY credible and dailykos in the same post :lol

TheSanityAnnex
01-20-2017, 06:32 PM
She didn't win though. Stop spinning the narrative. She spent $50 million before Trump spent $1 million. She had a much bigger machine behind her and she still lost. She is a career politician with far more dirty connections than Trump that got her off 5 Federal Investigations and enabled her to kill her enemies and rape Haiti and she still lost. She lost at the game of politics she has been playing for the last 40 years while the POTUS is a fat headed tool who never played politics. She rigged her Primary and tried rigging the main election and still lost. She is a loser.

:lol 1.2 billion dollar campaign :lol

boutons_deux
01-20-2017, 07:09 PM
Those texts are from the FBI files, not KOS

Trash didn't spend $1B because nobody gave it to him. He got $2B free TV time.