Parker is done

[AussieFanKurt]

Fuck this cun t is frustrating to watch out there... why is he still getting 25-30 minutes a game?

[100%duncan]

3 less shots than Kawhi Leonard on 6 less minutes :lmao

[ElNono]

Head of the snake

[GB20]

He has been done for awhile.

[objective]

Done for years.

But if he retired tomorrow to pursue film and music interests and his contract was stretched, the Spurs would be better off.

[AussieFanKurt]

Now he's so far done that its beneficial for the other team to have him out there

[HI-FI]

Even in his prime Parker would disappear, but he's been done for awhile. I still expect Pop to give him another loyalty contract.

[Play Boban]

We'll never win another title with this scrub at point guard. He's already cost us four titles.

[Spurtacular]

The fact that Parker gets more minutes than Mills is a joke.

[DMC]

Head of the snake

Turns out it's actually a cock.

[DMC]

Fuck this cun t is frustrating to watch out there... why is he still getting 25-30 minutes a game?

Oh that's easy. Just look at the names on the backs of jerseys. People don't buy tickets to see Dedmon and Simmons. Same reason Kobe got 50m to sit on the bench for 2 years.

[Clipper Nation]

"Done" implies that he was ever any good in the first place.

[spursparker9]

"Those who does not know the importance of TP is to the Spurs, does not know basketball."

Kawhi Leonard

[AussieFanKurt]

"Those who does not know the importance of TP is to the Spurs, does not know basketball."

Kawhi Leonard

seen

[Emperor]

Stat padding when the game was already won.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Stat padding when the game was already won.

5

[Seventyniner]

Stat padding when the game was already won.

Not sure how this is a criticism. The bench has blown enough late leads this season. Putting the other team away is something last year's team was great at and something this year's team has really struggled with.

[dabom]

Not sure how this is a criticism. The bench has blown enough late leads this season. Putting the other team away is something last year's team was great at and something this year's team has really struggled with.

What area you talking about. All the bench guys are positive impact players. :lmao

[ducks]

Tp plus 18

[DarrinS]

Tp plus 18

Sweet :tu

[$pursDynasty]

Watch it only Parker haters can use raw +/- as a legitimate stat.

[Robz4000]

Not sure how this is a criticism. The bench has blown enough late leads this season. Putting the other team away is something last year's team was great at and something this year's team has really struggled with.

Can only think of one or two games where the bench (not 3rd stringers like Forbes/Murray/Fathead) has blown a lead in the fourth tbh; they've been money this season. The main issue has been at the beginning of games where the SL lays an egg or the bench just doesn't have it to begin with. Team really needs to bench Gasol or flip him for a guard for when Parker/Manu don't play well.

[100%duncan]

Not sure how this is a criticism. The bench has blown enough late leads this season. Putting the other team away is something last year's team was great at and something this year's team has really struggled with.

Lol what? Outside this game, it’s usually the bench plus kawhi and green getting the spurs out of an early whole. Without the bench playing like they are this season combined with Aldridge sucking for the most parts so far, and Gasol and Parker being liabilities on defense, this team would not be the 2nd seed. Jesus, what an awful take.

[Mikeanaro]

Im afraid of TP during playoff time.

[Ice009]

They said on the national TV broadcast that he wants to play until he's 40.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yay another Parker thread.

[Sean Cagney]

He has been done for awhile.

Last flurry was some games in 2014 playoffs........
They said on the national TV broadcast that he wants to play until he's 40.

OH GOD NO, hope he doesn't think he is going to start that long because the Spurs will go and do just that :(

[bklynspursfan]

Original and informative thread. Quality. Thanks for sharing

[SASdynasty!]

The fact that Parker gets more minutes than Mills is a joke.
Parker: 13/8 on 40% shooting and was +19
Mills: 2/5 on 33% shooting and was -3

And Mills plays against the other team's bench.

[Spurtacular]

Parker: 13/8 on 40% shooting and was +19
Mills: 2/5 on 33% shooting and was -3

And Mills plays against the other team's bench.

So, your contention is that Parker is better than Mills?

[james evans]

Even in his prime Parker would disappear, but he's been done for awhile. I still expect Pop to give him another loyalty contract.
I said in another thread that I wouldn't be surprised if they let Mills and Dedmond walk just to give Parker a Kobe severance package.

[cd98]

3 less shots than Kawhi Leonard on 6 less minutes :lmao

This is the kind of dumb observation I've been accustomed to at Spurstalk. Kawhi had 8 free throws, which means he took 4 more shots than Parker. Kawhi had the ball in his control on the majority of possessions. Tony made some timely Buckets, including a 3 that helped put the game out of reach. No, he's not a superstar, but the bias makes you unable to make an honest assessment of Parker's performance.

[TD 21]

He is, but I actually didn't mind his aggression today. They were going so far under on his pick and rolls that he had free throw line jumpers. Similar to Aldridge a few times recently, you could see his frustration boiling over in the 2nd half. He was determined to will himself to respectability. In certain situations, I'd rather that than him being a bystander.

I also didn't mind Pop giving him the opportunity to do so and not running Mills into the ground. Whenever they can get away with keeping his minutes down and it doesn't cost them the game, they should take the opportunity.

[100%duncan]

This is the kind of dumb observation I've been accustomed to at Spurstalk. Kawhi had 8 free throws, which means he took 4 more shots than Parker. Kawhi had the ball in his control on the majority of possessions. Tony made some timely Buckets, including a 3 that helped put the game out of reach. No, he's not a superstar, but the bias makes you unable to make an honest assessment of Parker's performance.

Sure let’s twist terminologies now to fit the agenda :rolleyes


Game out of reach :lol :lmao

[sasaint]

To me, Tony and Manu are at about the same point in their respective careers. They can both be very effective still. But not in consecutive games without rest in between. And not for more than +/- 22 minutes per game. I would play one of them every other game while the other one rested.

[cd98]

Sure let’s twist terminologies now to fit the agenda :rolleyes


Game out of reach :lol :lmao

It was an 11 point game with 7 minutes in the 4th against a team that had already made several runs when Parker hit the three. I'm not a big Parker fan, but it's irrational hate takes that make me defend him. He played a solid game. But I'm not going to waste time trying to convince irrational hate.

[100%duncan]

It was an 11 point game with 7 minutes in the 4th against a team that had already made several runs when Parker hit the three. I'm not a big Parker fan, but it's irrational hate takes that make me defend him. He played a solid game. But I'm not going to waste time trying to convince irrational hate.

Call me irrational when he shoots 6/15 against a worthy opponent in May.

[TheGreatYacht]

Call me irrational when he shoots 6/15 against a worthy opponent in May.
Showed up in game 7 against the Clips. The braided role player didn't though

[100%duncan]

Showed up in game 7 against the Clips. The braided role player didn't though

We shouldn’t really talk about any other player playing great the whole series other than TimmyGOAT tbh :lol

And you shouldn’t really take it as an example when we lost and parker had a game high FGA of 21 :lol (16 FGA for TD, 11 for redick, 14 for blake, 13 for CP3) :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

We shouldn’t really talk about any other player playing great the whole series other than TimmyGOAT tbh :lol

And you shouldn’t really take it as an example when we lost and parker had a game high FGA of 21 :lol (16 FGA for TD, 11 for redick, 14 for blake, 13 for CP3) :lol
Head of the snake did his job in Game 7 putting up 20/5/5

Some Small Forwards don't live up for the moments unfortunately



FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Tim Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)
37:17
11
16
.688
0
0

5
8
.625
4
7
11
1
0
0
0
3
27
-7


Danny Green (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html)
34:54
6
12
.500
3
7
.429
1
1
1.000
2
6
8
3
2
5
0
4
16
+4


Tony Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)
33:40
10
21
.476
0
1
.000
0
0

1
4
5
5
1
0
3
3
20
-8


Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html)
33:19
5
13
.385
1
4
.250
2
2
1.000
2
8
10
1
0
0
1
4
13
-6


Tiago Splitter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html)
21:59
2
3
.667
0
0

1
3
.333
0
3
3
1
2
1
0
2
5
+10


Reserves
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Boris Diaw (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/diawbo01.html)
26:40
5
11
.455
2
3
.667
0
1
.000
3
1
4
3
0
0
3
1
12
-9


Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
18:20
2
5
.400
2
4
.500
2
3
.667
0
2
2
7
1
0
2
3
8
-2


Marco Belinelli (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01.html)
18:13
0
2
.000
0
2
.000
2
2
1.000
0
2
2
4
0
0
1
3
2
+5


Patrick Mills (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa02.html)
15:37
2
6
.333
2
4
.500
0
0

1
0
1
1
1
0
0
0
6
+3


Matt Bonner (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bonnema01.html)
0:01
0
0

0
0

0
0

0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


Cory Joseph (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/josepco01.html)
Did Not Play


Jeff Ayres (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pendeje02.html)
Did Not Play


Aron Baynes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/baynear01.html)
Did Not Play


Team Totals

240
43
89
.483
10
25
.400
13
20

[100%duncan]

FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Tim Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)
37:17
11
16
.688
0
0

5
8
.625
4
7
11
1
0
0
0
3
27
-7


Danny Green (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html)
34:54
6
12
.500
3
7
.429
1
1
1.000
2
6
8
3
2
5
0
4
16
+4


Tony Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)
33:40
10
21
.476
0
1
.000
0
0

1
4
5
5
1
0
3
3
20
-8


Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html)
33:19
5
13
.385
1
4
.250
2
2
1.000
2
8
10
1
0
0
1
4
13
-6


Tiago Splitter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html)
21:59
2
3
.667
0
0

1
3
.333
0
3
3
1
2
1
0
2
5
+10


Reserves
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Boris Diaw (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/diawbo01.html)
26:40
5
11
.455
2
3
.667
0
1
.000
3
1
4
3
0
0
3
1
12
-9


Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
18:20
2
5
.400
2
4
.500
2
3
.667
0
2
2
7
1
0
2
3
8
-2


Marco Belinelli (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01.html)
18:13
0
2
.000
0
2
.000
2
2
1.000
0
2
2
4
0
0
1
3
2
+5


Patrick Mills (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa02.html)
15:37
2
6
.333
2
4
.500
0
0

1
0
1
1
1
0
0
0
6
+3


Matt Bonner (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bonnema01.html)
0:01
0
0

0
0

0
0

0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


Cory Joseph (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/josepco01.html)
Did Not Play


Jeff Ayres (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pendeje02.html)
Did Not Play


Aron Baynes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/baynear01.html)
Did Not Play


Team Totals
240
43
89
.483
10
25
.400
13
20


Thanks for posting what I read on basketball reference :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Thanks for posting what I read on basketball reference :lol
I edited something on top, forgot to at first

[100%duncan]

I edited something on top, forgot to at first

Sure he choked in game 7 I don’t think anyone’s denying that, while almost everyone including duncan played a bad game 6 as well, no denying that. But if you look at the series stats, well, I don’t have any explaining to do to you other than Duncan, Kawhi and Mills were pretty much the only + players for the entirety of it.

[jermaine]

"Those who does not know the importance of TP is to the Spurs, does not know basketball."

Kawhi Leonard

I've always said, I'm no dam of Parker, but this is true! I seen last night why Pop refuses to start Mills or Demom. Why fuck up the 2nd unit!?! Our bench could win a serie Kawhi, an LMA could do the bulk of the scoring in the 1st unit. If Parker an Paul could get 9pts.... maybe between 6 to 11 from Danny....

[jermaine]

People don't pay attention to how Tony creeps away from his man slowly to get his wide open corner shots.

[SASdynasty!]

So, your contention is that Parker is better than Mills?
I wouldn't make that type of judgment based on one game of course, but the answer to your question is yes.

[spurspokesman]

No knock on parker. Father time is setting in, he just can't compete with the new aged pgs who are bigger , faster and more athletic, five years ago he is taking shits on everyone.

[couchman]

Parker is still a usable PG, but he should be a bench player. Mills is a fantastic backup, but would be exposed on D if he regularly faced starting team matchups. The reality is that we don't have a starting caliber PG on this team, so the guy with the rings and a Finals MVP gets the nod until someone else steps up or we acquire a better option.

[Spurtacular]

I wouldn't make that type of judgment based on one game of course, but the answer to your question is yes.

That's pretty much nonsense. Clearly, Mills is the much better player. Mills has 61 EFG to Parker's 46 EFG. That's a fifteen point difference.

[Spurtacular]

Head of the snake did his job in Game 7 putting up 20/5/5

Some Small Forwards don't live up for the moments unfortunately



FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Tim Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)
37:17
11
16
.688
0
0

5
8
.625
4
7
11
1
0
0
0
3
27
-7


Danny Green (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html)
34:54
6
12
.500
3
7
.429
1
1
1.000
2
6
8
3
2
5
0
4
16
+4


Tony Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)
33:40
10
21
.476
0
1
.000
0
0

1
4
5
5
1
0
3
3
20
-8


Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html)
33:19
5
13
.385
1
4
.250
2
2
1.000
2
8
10
1
0
0
1
4
13
-6


Tiago Splitter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html)
21:59
2
3
.667
0
0

1
3
.333
0
3
3
1
2
1
0
2
5
+10


Reserves
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
+/-


Boris Diaw (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/diawbo01.html)
26:40
5
11
.455
2
3
.667
0
1
.000
3
1
4
3
0
0
3
1
12
-9


Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
18:20
2
5
.400
2
4
.500
2
3
.667
0
2
2
7
1
0
2
3
8
-2


Marco Belinelli (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01.html)
18:13
0
2
.000
0
2
.000
2
2
1.000
0
2
2
4
0
0
1
3
2
+5


Patrick Mills (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa02.html)
15:37
2
6
.333
2
4
.500
0
0

1
0
1
1
1
0
0
0
6
+3


Matt Bonner (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bonnema01.html)
0:01
0
0

0
0

0
0

0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


Cory Joseph (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/josepco01.html)
Did Not Play


Jeff Ayres (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pendeje02.html)
Did Not Play


Aron Baynes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/baynear01.html)
Did Not Play


Team Totals
240
43
89
.483
10
25
.400
13
20




Duncan was head of the snake, tbh.

[Seventyniner]

It was an 11 point game with 7 minutes in the 4th against a team that had already made several runs when Parker hit the three. I'm not a big Parker fan, but it's irrational hate takes that make me defend him. He played a solid game. But I'm not going to waste time trying to convince irrational hate.

I agree with basically all of this, though I have wasted more time than you.

[gambit1990]

PER isn't everything... but patty is #15 among point guards. below dj augustin (never liked him), ramon sessions (still playing?), tj mcconnell (who?), is tony. #41.

[cutewizard]

Imagine if Westbrook were to join the Spurs!!!!!!!!!

[duncan2k5]

...

[SASdynasty!]

Imagine if Westbrook were to join the Spurs!!!!!!!!!

We'd have a 43% shooter and 5-6 more turnovers a game. I wonder if he could still stat-pad on a team that's actually a contender though.

[50Bestspurever]

message board has gone to shit... parker is the best point guard this franchise has ever seen and is still to this day as long as healthy. this franchise sucked with shitty point guard after shitty point guard. dude is a finals MVP. keep it up TP!! when ur done it will show brother.