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100%duncan
12-25-2016, 08:14 PM
Story of the Game

Like the first game in Chicago, the Bulls come into this game on a slump with their under .500 record while the Spurs come into it only losing once in a number of games. The first half of the first quarter was probably the best string of minutes this game. LMA started the game 8-0 and kawhi followed it up with his own 9 straight points. Things looked like this game could be the best outing from the team this season outside of the GSW game but from 30-10, things started turning to shit when kawhi sat and LMA was left with the bench. We gave up open look after open look to Mirotic and I don’t have enough fingers to count the number of offensive rebounds Chicago had. The trend was the same for the 2nd quarter, the lead was dwindling down and the team was starting to go cold in general, however, kawhi and lma managed to put us back up around double digits again. But like the first quarter, the Bulls finished the 2nd strong with us only having a 5 pt lead at the half even if we shot 60% from the field. Third quarter looked scary, the Bulls even held a 3 pt lead, Kawhi didn’t have a shot until around 8 minute mark, and LMA much later than that, this team has a sickness of trying to go to Pau and Parker when the solution, which was just dumping it down to LMA or letting kawhi shoot, was pretty clear. We managed to hold on though, it was pretty much a tale of two halves by the bench, Dedmon and Lee gave us very solid minutes, and that stretch of 8 or something straight points with 2 dunks from Dedmon pretty much won us the game.

Lamarcus Aldridge: A

The best shooting game for LMA and arguably his best game of the season, he scored 33 points and was one rebound short of a double double. He could’ve gotten more, he had like 22 in the first but as I said, the team went away from him and kawhi too much this game given the hot shooting that they had. In addition, for the first time in the season, LMA has put up 2 straight good games, let’s see if the trend continues. This would be a good time to start a thread and track this. Like we have said, him playing up to his potential could mask a lot of this team’s problems.

Kawhi Leonard: A

25 pts 10 rebounds 4 assists and 3 steals. Overall, a very “Kawhi” outing by the Klaw. I thought he picked his shots very well, he wasn’t forcing up anything, he was making plays for others, got to the line and shot 8/8 and he played very good defense. Held Butler at 6 pts 3/9 shooting at the half and ultimately, 19 pts on 19 shots to end the game. Pretty good if you ask me. This game also highlights how retarded mainstream media is and their schtick on him hurting the Spurs’ defense due to that 1 bulls game this season, same situation here, locked down Butler,the difference was the rest of the Spurs came to play and actually knocked down some shots.

Danny Green: C

Danny was pretty meh this game. He had a good sequence in the 4th that put the nail in the coffin on the Bulls’ hopes but as for the whole game, being Wade’s primary defender, he let the dude score 24 on 9/16 shooting and contrary to popular opinion, Wade only had 5 fta’s this game. All in all, I think this was a below average game from our beloved LDN.

Tony Parker: C

Tony actually started the game pretty well. He was finding Kawhi and LMA (had 5 assists in the first) and was part of the reason of the Spurs’ hot start. But as the game went on, Parker was looking for his own touches, he ended the game with only 3 more assists. At the half, he had only 3 less FGA than Kawhi while playing 6 less minutes. Hell, he shot 6/15 and had 1 more FGA than kawhi to end the game. Sure he has his 13 points but game was over at that point already :lol

Pau Gasol: C

Don’t let this guy’s stat-line fool you :lol I’m pretty much done with Gasol being a starter, time and time and again he has shown that his defense is non-existent and his offense, which only takes away touches from LMA and Kawhi at needed moments, does not warrant him being a starter. It hurts seeing our guys funnel their men into the paint only to have Gasol as our last line of defense. He had some shots during the third but at the same time, the offence was stagnating and our 2 best players are relegated to being bystanders, this pretty much describes his FA signing, subtraction by addition.

Manu Ginobili: C-

Coming back from almost a full week of rest, Manu sure didn’t look good. His 2 to’s was part of the run the bulls’ bench had in the first, he gave up open looks to his man, was slow on switches, etc etc. As good as he looked against the Rockets, he sure played like a 50 year old today.

Patty Mills: C

It’s simple, Patty gets some looks and playing time, he makes shots. You put a short leash on him and he doesn’t have any impact. Absolutely no reason for him to be playing 9 less minutes than Parker who put up bricks left and right. Yeah yeah he’s not a real PG yada yada yada but if you have a 1 who just wants to shoot, you’d rather have the guy who’s having a career season play right? Sure, the bench was a shitshow in the first half, but Patty was hardly the reason for that, he was not a net negative on defense and it was not like he was shooting the bench’s way out of the game, the guy had 3 FGA and 0 3FGA, totally unacceptable coming from Pop and the teammates around him.

David Lee: B

If that 1st half didn’t happen, him and Dedmon probably get an A. David Lee 9 points 2 rebs 1 assist in 16 minutes. He has been very solid at the boris diaw role this season. Every time he’s on the court, you can feel his impact. You know he’s there, either with hustle, making shots or just overall making high IQ plays for the unit he’s in with.

Dewayne Dedmon: B+

Like the rest of the bench, he wasn’t good in the first half. In fact, he was criticized by some in the game thread. However, he more than made up for it in the 3rd quarter when he was mixed in with some starters rather than playing with the full 2nd unit. As I’ve said, the stretch where he had 6-8 straight points sealed this game for us, IMO.

Jonathon Simmons: C

He’s really hard to gauge on games when he doesn’t have enough chances with the ball. He only had 4 shots on only 11 minutes and 2 of those were 3FGA’s, not the usual Simmons style of play. This season has also been a rollercoaster from him, sometimes we get to see that hunger that we saw from his last year and there are just games where you don’t notice him. He played decent defense I guess, an aspect of his game that has been noticeably better this season.

Kyle Anderson, Bertans, Murray: INC

I certainly hope Bertans stops being in the doghouse, fucking Pop. His offense can be pretty convenient on times that this team goes cold. Murray showed 2 nice makes in garbage time, nothing much to say.

Pop: C+

It’s not his fault that the bench played like shit and let the lead go down to 5 in the first half but he sure could’ve done something, like I don’t know, calling for more shots for Aldridge and Kawhi, on a night where they looked like they would make more than they would miss. I liked the aggressive time-out calls though, it seemed like he actually gave a fuck and got pissed at the bench. Pretty rare occurrence if you ask me.

Just to add the team’s reliance on Gasol and Parker is very disgusting. This has got to stop, and there’s absolutely no other reason to look at than the coach. It’s frustrating and at the same time scary for this team’s small hope this season, Pop has been know to be very stubborn and no matter how many times Gasol gets burned on defense and no matter how many open bricks Parker puts up, I am just not sure that Pop would have the guts to change the starting line-up.

Overall

There’s really nothing much to take-away from this game honestly. A good “revenge” win against a team that we shouldn’t have lost to earlier this season. The biggest thing is that this is LMA’s second straight good game, a nice time for us to look at this and see if this is indeed the start of his resurgence to LMA all-star level like last season.

ducks
12-25-2016, 08:15 PM
Tp plus 18

apalisoc_9
12-25-2016, 08:17 PM
Thanks my Pinoy nigga.

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 08:19 PM
Thanks my Pinoy nigga.

Merry christmas fam :lol

dabom
12-25-2016, 08:19 PM
OP with the guds.

ElNono
12-25-2016, 08:20 PM
Thanks niglet. Manu sure was awful in that 1st half, but I thought he did better in the 2nd half...

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 08:23 PM
Thanks niglet. Manu sure was awful in that 1st half, but I thought he did better in the 2nd half...

Sorry mi negro, the next game grades, I’ll give you 1 letter grade higher.

Robz4000
12-25-2016, 08:24 PM
Great write-up :tu; no complaints about any of the grades. Watching Gasol and Parker on the floor at the same time is frustrating as fuck.

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 08:25 PM
Great write-up :tu; no complaints about any of the grades. Watching Gasol and Parker on the floor at the same time.is frustrating as fuck.

Deserved this game after having to grade that assrape against the Clips. Ugh still annoyed from that one.

Emperor
12-25-2016, 08:27 PM
Heard about that typhoon btw, hope everyone is ok out there.

CGD
12-25-2016, 08:28 PM
Those jerseys were so clean!

$pursDynasty
12-25-2016, 08:29 PM
Thanks for the grades but Tony and Patty with the same grade????:wow Today?

ElNono
12-25-2016, 08:30 PM
Sorry mi negro, the next game grades, I’ll give you 1 letter grade higher.

Grades were spot on, don't change a thing :tu

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 08:31 PM
Thanks for the grades but Tony and Patty with the same grade????:wow Today?

My reasoning for Patty was that it was so hard to criticise him since he wasn’t given any looks and was basically benched.

$pursDynasty
12-25-2016, 08:37 PM
Hey good write up 100. Just trying to imagine a game where Patty out scores Tony, the +/- is the exact opposite and what would be said of someone giving Tony the same grade as Patty, and the abuse he would take. Funny how Tony can be held to the highest standard and despised at the same time.

SAGirl
12-25-2016, 08:42 PM
Good spicey review. Nice summary of the game. Grateful for your time. Pretty much agree with you.

Edit: I didn't think it was a good defensive game for Simmons but he had to guard Wade who was no picnic tonight and whenever Butler got a switch with him he saw the light. Every time one of the star wings saw him defending they went straight at him. It was expected as he was at times with Kiwi.... a C is fair though.

FkLA
12-25-2016, 09:01 PM
thanks brah :tu

YGWHI
12-25-2016, 09:05 PM
Nice write-up. Thanks for the grades! :tu


Tony Parker: C

Tony actually started the game pretty well. He was finding Kawhi and LMA (had 5 assists in the first) and was part of the reason of the Spurs’ hot start. But as the game went on, Parker was looking for his own touches, he ended the game with only 3 more assists. At the half, he had only 3 less FGA than Kawhi while playing 6 less minutes. Hell, he shot 6/15 and had 1 more FGA than kawhi to end the game. Sure he has his 13 points but game was over at that point already :lol

'But but he already said that this is Kawhi's team and he's adapting to a new role' ....In a hot Kawhi/LMA night and Parker taking more shots than the season team-leading scorer.


Pop: C+

Just to add the team’s reliance on Gasol and Parker is very disgusting. This has got to stop, and there’s absolutely no other reason to look at than the coach. It’s frustrating and at the same time scary for this team’s small hope this season, Pop has been know to be very stubborn and no matter how many times Gasol gets burned on defense and no matter how many open bricks Parker puts up, I am just not sure that Pop would have the guts to change the starting line-up.

Pretty much this.

I wonder how many more games will this weak starting combo and Pop cost us in the season and playoffs...

Hoops Czar
12-25-2016, 09:30 PM
Story of the Game


Tony Parker: C

Tony actually started the game pretty well. He was finding Kawhi and LMA (had 5 assists in the first) and was part of the reason of the Spurs’ hot start. But as the game went on, Parker was looking for his own touches, he ended the game with only 3 more assists. At the half, he had only 3 less FGA than Kawhi while playing 6 less minutes. Hell, he shot 6/15 and had 1 more FGA than kawhi to end the game. Sure he has his 13 points but game was over at that point already :lol


So Tony basically gets a "C" because he's not Kawhi and when he passed a player the ball after the first Q, the player either missed the shot, made an extra pass or put the ball on the floor and statistically, that made Tony look bad.. Umm, OK.

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 09:33 PM
So Tony basically gets a "C" because he's not Kawhi and when he passed a player the ball after the first Q, the player either missed the shot, made an extra pass or put the ball on the floor and statistically, that made Tony look bad.. Umm, OK.

:lol ummm ok Parker was 6/15 and half of those makes were in garbage time. He kept bricking and shooting when he had Lamarcus and kawhi on the floor. Please, don’t be obvious that you didn’t watch the game.

spurs10
12-25-2016, 09:36 PM
Deserved this game after having to grade that assrape against the Clips. Ugh still annoyed from that one. I heard that! Thanks for these grades!! Good work!
:flag:

Hoops Czar
12-25-2016, 09:42 PM
:lol ummm ok Parker was 6/15 and half of those makes were in garbage time. He kept bricking and shooting when he had Lamarcus and kawhi on the floor. Please, don’t be obvious that you didn’t watch the game.

You made Kawhi/Parker comparisons in your game grades for Tony. Parker is the 4th option on offense and Kawhi is the first. He was shooting because defenders were sagging off of him. He's no longer a scoring pg but he has to take those shots to keep the defense honest. He was the biggest reason the Spurs built such a big lead in the first place. I have no idea what you were trying to prove by posting this.... "he had only 3 less FGA than Kawhi while playing 6 less minutes. Hell, he shot 6/15 and had 1 more FGA than kawhi to end the game." Contrary to what you might believe, Parker wasn't out there calling his own number.

Leetonidas
12-25-2016, 09:45 PM
Good write up OP :tu

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 09:47 PM
You made Kawhi/Parker comparisons in your game grades for Tony. Parker is the 4th option on offense and Kawhi is the first. He was shooting because defenders were sagging off of him. He's no longer a scoring pg but he has to take those shots to keep the defense honest. He was the biggest reason the Spurs built such a big lead in the first place. I have no idea what you were trying to prove by posting this.... "he had only 3 less FGA than Kawhi while playing 6 less minutes. Hell, he shot 6/15 and had 1 more FGA than kawhi to end the game." Contrary to what you might believe, Parker wasn't out there calling his own number.

:lol @ They were sagging off him usual remark/defense

First, if an opponent sags off a starting PG and that starting PG makes less than 50% of his shots, isn’t he supposed to have a low grade just because of bricking wide open looks?

Second, it was clearly untrue :lol they were not sagging on him every time, there were picks, or there were times that LMA was in a position in the post clearly asking for the ball and he chose to do his own thing.

Third, no matter how you defend the guy, he had 1 more FGA than Kawhi in less than 11 minutes. That speaks for itself :lol

But I guess your expectations of him are that low that a 6/15 outing deserves more than a below average grade

T Park
12-25-2016, 09:48 PM
So Tony basically gets a "C" because he's not Kawhi and when he passed a player the ball after the first Q, the player either missed the shot, made an extra pass or put the ball on the floor and statistically, that made Tony look bad.. Umm, OK.



Don't forget him shooting open shots and being aggressive on fast breaks is bad too.

The basement dwellers though have to rip him though because they're such inadequate fuck sticks.

100%duncan
12-25-2016, 09:51 PM
my parker :cry

give him an A :cry
Open looks :cry
doesn’t matter that he missed them :cry

RD2191
12-25-2016, 10:01 PM
Great grades OP, although parker deserved an f for being a faggot.

itzsoweezee
12-25-2016, 10:02 PM
The hockey rotations are just stupid. Leave LMA or KL on with the bench and those leads expand, not contact. Kerr and other good coaches know how to do this. Why won't Popovich learn?

SPURt
12-25-2016, 10:10 PM
Does Pau really not see his impact? He's played enough ball to know how to help the Spurs, he should ask to start Dedmon and be the feature of the second unit if he cared about winning.

$pursDynasty
12-25-2016, 10:24 PM
During the showtime Laker days I don't think Magic fans hated on Worthy fans. Is this a millennial thing or just an Internet troll thing, smdh. If Bertrans goes for 36 and we win I am happy. Some on ST only care if their fave has the game high and the player they hate, on a team they reportedly like mind you, does crappy. Times have changed.

GSH
12-25-2016, 10:28 PM
Whatever Dedmon's overall grade, he was the backbone that stopped the Bulls run and put the Spurs back in charge. The guy's got a pair, and he plays with heart. You can watch the Spurs' body language change when he gets going.

Seventyniner
12-25-2016, 10:36 PM
'But but he already said that this is Kawhi's team and he's adapting to a new role' ....In a hot Kawhi/LMA night and Parker taking more shots than the season team-leading scorer.

I don't get it. Parker gets crap for taking more shots than Kawhi, but then gets accused of stat padding when the game was out of reach? Those can't both be true at the same time.

YGWHI
12-25-2016, 10:50 PM
I don't get it. Parker gets crap for taking more shots than Kawhi, but then gets accused of stat padding when the game was out of reach? Those can't both be true at the same time.

Don't care about his stat padding...But I guess what people find annoying is that Parker is supposed to be a facilitator for Spurs' two main scorers but he isn't that type of player when he looks for his own shot and the other guys are so hot.

Cry Havoc
12-25-2016, 10:57 PM
Thanks for covering for me dude. Great job on the grades.

ducks
12-25-2016, 11:05 PM
Whatever Dedmon's overall grade, he was the backbone that stopped the Bulls run and put the Spurs back in charge. The guy's got a pair, and he plays with heart. You can watch the Spurs' body language change when he gets going.

100%duncan
12-26-2016, 01:33 AM
Thanks for covering for me dude. Great job on the grades.

Sure :tu thanks for not being butthurt on that Parker criticism

daledondale
12-26-2016, 06:23 AM
Thanks for the grades!.

cutewizard
12-26-2016, 10:57 AM
:bobo

kudos!

bic50
12-26-2016, 11:59 AM
Whatever Dedmon's overall grade, he was the backbone that stopped the Bulls run and put the Spurs back in charge. The guy's got a pair, and he plays with heart. You can watch the Spurs' body language change when he gets going.

Thunder1
12-26-2016, 12:08 PM
Thanx for the grades...

jermaine
12-26-2016, 12:09 PM
Lee an Dedmon deserves at least an A.... Maybe I'm judging them off Gasol, but Lee with all those great passed an hustle... Dedmon with his hustle an rebounds an layups...

Cry Havoc
12-27-2016, 12:12 AM
Sure :tu thanks for not being butthurt on that Parker criticism

I'm a critic of his as well, I just think it's fucking absurd to expect much out of him at this point. He's been in the league for 16 years. A PG that's predicated on speed and penetration after 16 years is going to drop off.

skulls138
12-27-2016, 12:51 AM
People like to put others down. It brings them up.

Perry Mason
12-27-2016, 10:43 AM
Just watched the game. Good grades except for Parker's. I don't understand this narrative that he got his points in "garbage time". The game was very much in reach when TP made some key baskets. He had a very good game for a 34 year old point guard.

And he was key to the 1st quarter supernova, which the bench promptly eliminated when they came in.

TP gets a B+ or an A- for this game. He was active, moved well, and only got torched a couple times.

Perry Mason
12-27-2016, 10:46 AM
Don't care about his stat padding...But I guess what people find annoying is that Parker is supposed to be a facilitator for Spurs' two main scorers but he isn't that type of player when he looks for his own shot and the other guys are so hot.

Having just watched the game, I can't think of a single play where TP forced a shot and had LMA or Kawhi wide open in a clear passing lane. There was zero stat padding.

TP was mostly smart when he went to the hole, and had some very vintage drive and kick plays. Seriously, you guys with your trash narrative. Was he perfect? Of course not, but he did what Pop wanted. Pop was happy. That says something.

bklynspursfan
12-27-2016, 11:16 AM
Having just watched the game, I can't think of a single play where TP forced a shot and had LMA or Kawhi wide open in a clear passing lane. There was zero stat padding.

TP was mostly smart when he went to the hole, and had some very vintage drive and kick plays. Seriously, you guys with your trash narrative. Was he perfect? Of course not, but he did what Pop wanted. Pop was happy. That says something.

Exactly. Trolls & haters ignore facts tho. Goes against their agenda

GSH
12-27-2016, 11:24 AM
I don't get it. Parker gets crap for taking more shots than Kawhi, but then gets accused of stat padding when the game was out of reach? Those can't both be true at the same time.


It's because some people don't know what stat-padding means, and don't care. They just hate Parker.

The Spurs' lead was just 9 points, with 9 minutes left to play. In the next 6 1/2 minutes, Parker dished two assists to LMA (one for a dunk), and went 4-7 shooting - including a big 3-pointer from the corner. On one of those misses, he was left all alone under the basket but Manu's pass was way off target, and by the time Tony gathered it in he had a bigger defender on him. With a decent pass, that was an uncontested dunk.

Bottom line, Tony kept the pressure on the Bulls in crunch time, and made sure they didn't have any hope of a comeback. The Parker-haters may have forgotten that the Spurs had already blown one 20 point lead in that game, but Pop didn't. He kept the starters in (with Manu in place of Danny) until the 2:23 mark. He didn't do that so that Tony could stat-pad. He did it so that the Bulls didn't have any chance of a comeback. You could fault Tony for going 3-8 earlier in the game, but not for his 4-7 shooting at the end.

Now... sit back and wait for the usual suspects to spin it some other way.

sasaint
12-27-2016, 03:17 PM
It's because some people don't know what stat-padding means, and don't care. They just hate Parker.

The Spurs' lead was just 9 points, with 9 minutes left to play. In the next 6 1/2 minutes, Parker dished two assists to LMA (one for a dunk), and went 4-7 shooting - including a big 3-pointer from the corner. On one of those misses, he was left all alone under the basket but Manu's pass was way off target, and by the time Tony gathered it in he had a bigger defender on him. With a decent pass, that was an uncontested dunk.

Bottom line, Tony kept the pressure on the Bulls in crunch time, and made sure they didn't have any hope of a comeback. The Parker-haters may have forgotten that the Spurs had already blown one 20 point lead in that game, but Pop didn't. He kept the starters in (with Manu in place of Danny) until the 2:23 mark. He didn't do that so that Tony could stat-pad. He did it so that the Bulls didn't have any chance of a comeback. You could fault Tony for going 3-8 earlier in the game, but not for his 4-7 shooting at the end.

Now... sit back and wait for the usual suspects to spin it some other way.

:toast A nine point lead with ONE minute is not insurmountable. A nine point lead with NINE minutes to go is absolutely negligible. The team in the lead had better keep the pedal to the metal.

YGWHI
12-28-2016, 09:09 PM
Having just watched the game, I can't think of a single play where TP forced a shot and had LMA or Kawhi wide open in a clear passing lane.


and went 4-7 shooting - including a big 3-pointer from the corner.

If you're trying to say that Parker taking 7 shots in 6 1/2 minutes while Kawhi took just 2 in all that time is something good for the team...

If you're trying to say that the leading scorer in a hot shooting night has to take less shots than the point guard who's the 5th scorer on the team...

Well, it's pretty obvious that we don't share the same concept of 'winning formula'.

YGWHI
12-28-2016, 09:19 PM
But it's OK.

Since you like Parker taking that number of shots in a quarter, and then call haters the guys who disagree on that...The Spurs should allow Parker to take more shots than Kawhi/LMA for the rest of the season.

I guess you would love it and obviously the Spurs will win many games with that shot distribution.

Good for you, guys! You find a new way to win :tu