Game Thread: Spurs at Hawks (5:00 PM CT/11:00 GMT) sponsored by Tiago Street Clothes

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Horrendous

That Raptors performance against GS the other night was worse :lol

[spursistan]

I love Kawhi, but he is really a below average finisher around the rim..

[DPG21920]

Was a good game. Really bad refs, Kawhi/Mills struggled badly and still were in it with a good chance to win every step of the way.

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi did piss poor on that layup, wow

He didn't use the glass, not sure if he thought that the clock was running out so he had to throw it up :bang

[Robz4000]

Just can't trust this team come playoff time tbh.

[From Downtown]

Fuck this shit

[cd98]

Gotta finish those layups.

[Nathan89]

Yeah, that was a foul as well but the refs don't give a shit.

[RD2191]

That was a foul too.

Refs didn't beat us though. Enrique's heroball in OT did.

Agreed

[Darius Bieber]

Told ya guys. This team is fool's gold. They had fluky wins to boost their record. They're a .500 team at best.

[james evans]

how did he miss that layup? Oh well, its time for me to say it again...

"Gasol/Aldridge combination isn't fucking working..."

[bklynspursfan]

what a fucking choke. I wanted a 3. why the fuck go for a 2 on the road?

Man, Kawhi has a low, low bbIQ.

He had a great look. Not to mention Anderson put him in a poor spot with that pass (I think Patty was letting Kyle know that post game btw)

He had to abandon whatever was called in the TO and try and make something work

[resistanze]

Stick to the Raptors my man.

Nah I'll continue to watch the team i have for 20 years. :toast

[Vokun]

Spurs are ass. First round exit is inevitable. Fucking soft as shit team.

[dabom]

Wow, that looked like it was going to be an easy layup..

Looks like a good shot. I don't mind giving Kawhi every single opportunity in the RS to learn. We will need him to close out in the playoffs anyways.

[Ice009]

Kawhi blows those easy layups quite often at the end of games. Have seen him do it numerous time. I would have preferred that he take a 3.

[Budkin]

Pretty fucking sad.

[weebo]

what a fucking choke. I wanted a 3. why the fuck go for a 2 on the road?

Man, Kawhi has a low, low bbIQ.
quit being a little bitch bro :lol

[ElNono]

Non Issue tbh

[SASdynasty!]

That was a foul too.

Refs didn't beat us though. Enrique's heroball in OT did.
Lol Parker's not the one who bricked 2 game winners from under 5 feet.

...or shot 25%...just a terrible game from Kawhi, he's allowed one every once in a while, tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol giving Kawhi the last shot when it's not an under .500 team

[bklynspursfan]

Still miffed LMA didn't get an and 1 too. It was so obvious

[Ice009]

Anyway, this soft play won't fly in the playoffs. If they get a bad matchup, they could be out in round 1.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Other than Kawhi being bad, I thought this game was a good sign for the Spurs. Tony, Aldridge, and even Pau had good/great games, and the Spurs need those guys to step it up if they want to challenge the Warriors; I'm not really worried about Kawhi in the long run.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

In fairness this is a paper tiger team, and the Spurs were long overdue for a close loss.

[dabom]

I love Kawhi, but he is really a below average finisher around the rim..

Are you the biggest faggot on ST? :lmao

[Arcadian]

What a bullshit, lucky "win" for the Hawks. Kawhi game winner rolls out, illegal screen to set up Hardaway wasn't called, and Kawhi was fouled on the last play.

And they're lucky Kawhi happened to be sick the last two games and was rusty.

[Nathan89]

Looks like a good shot. I don't mind giving Kawhi every single opportunity in the RS to learn. We will need him to close out in the playoffs anyways.

Plus he gets the best shots and can deliver better than anyone else.

[resistanze]

That Raptors performance against GS the other night was worse :lol

I wouldn't know, the only games I actively watch are the Spurs :lol. I have Toronto more so to show where I'm from.

[timtonymanu]

Some worry about the lack of depth in the backcourt but it's the 2 bigs in crunch time that can't do the simplest things like grabbing boards. Gasol Aldridge always prone to soft plays when it matters

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Other than Kawhi being bad, I thought this game was a good sign for the Spurs. Tony, Aldridge, and even Pau had good/great games, and the Spurs need those guys to step it up if they want to challenge the Warriors; I'm not really worrieed about Kawhi in the long run.

Playing well against the Hawks and playing well against the Warriors are two different things. If the Spurs played against the Warriors tonight like they did against the Hawks they'd lose by double digits.

[SPURt]

Welp, when Patty and Kawhi play like butt the odds of winning go down. Spurs had plenty of opportunity in spite of them. Can't win them all I guess.

[HarlemHeat37]

Good game, tbh, fun to watch..

Horrible officiating in the 4th and OT(including the egregious Hawks' game-tying 3) + Hardaway making everything + Spurs' shooters struggling, yet they lost by missing an easy shot that would have forced 2OT..

[BillMc]

Still miffed LMA didn't get an and 1 too. It was so obvious
Agreed.

[DPG21920]

Nah I'll continue to watch the team i have for 20 years. :toast

I didn't say not to watch. I said keep your scrub takes to TOR.

[bbarry]

what the hell did andrew monaco say? "just the 3rd loss in a row for the san antonio spurs to see their 4 game winning streak go by the boards".

what does that even meaning?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I wouldn't know, the only games I actively watch are the Spurs :lol. I have Toronto more so to show where I'm from.

My bad :toast

I'm in Toronto as well.

[Ice009]

Looks like a good shot. I don't mind giving Kawhi every single opportunity in the RS to learn. We will need him to close out in the playoffs anyways.

It's actually not. I don't trust Kawhi on easy layups at the end of games. He misses them quite often. Ones he should had made, for some reason he misses.

[Horse]

Should've dunked that. This one just wasn't meant to be.

[RD2191]

Well, it shouldn't have been close tbh. :lol

[ECOV]

Told ya guys. This team is fool's gold. They had fluky wins to boost their record. They're a .500 team at best.win some, lose some

[dabom]

Plus he gets the best shots and can deliver better than anyone else.

Exactly. This team is still on pace for 60 games. Can't win them all.

[RD2191]

It's actually not. I don't trust Kawhi on easy layups at the end of games. He misses them quite often. Ones he should had made, for some reason he misses.

I'm almost certain you're full of shit.

[bklynspursfan]

what the hell did andrew monaco say? "just the 3rd loss in a row for the san antonio spurs to see their 4 game winning streak go by the boards".

what does that even meaning?

Third loss on the road, not in a row. Idk about the 2nd part lol but don't think that was it

[resistanze]

I didn't say not to watch. I said keep your scrub takes to TOR.

Didn't you have a pussy ache about this years ago? Just let it go. I'll post how I want about the game.

[dabom]

It's actually not. I don't trust Kawhi on easy layups at the end of games. He misses them quite often. Ones he should had made, for some reason he misses.

I doubt it faggot. Your assessments are garbage. Take a hike. :tu

[spursgu]

Meh. Spurs nearly stole that game away. Can't win them all and they're still 2nd in the West. Might as well fall to 3rd and avoid the Clippers, tbh.

[100%duncan]

Giving them the win so they'd trade korver for porker straight up :wakeup

:lol glad I didnt get to watch this game

[itzsoweezee]

Fucking Popovich is going to ride the Pau train to a first round knockout. The guy can't play defense and can't even grab a rebound off a missed free throw. Why is he in the game?

[midnightpulp]

ST favorites (dleague, house, kiwi) are to blame for tonight. No logical reason to blame parker, lmalpha, and gasol.

[Ice009]

If you want a chance at the first seed, you can't play this poorly against average teams. Being down in the first half to two of the worst defensive in the league at home is not good Basketball. Spurs have played poorly lately.

anyway, I think they've thrown out their chances for the first seed and are now going to be fighting tooth and nail with Houston for the 2nd seed. I would not want to play the Rockets without homecourt advantage.

[Mikeanaro]

Refs were shit, made look Atlanta like superstars.

[DPG21920]

Didn't you have a pussy ache about this years ago? Just let it go. I'll post how I want about the game.

Nah. I didn't. You just started posting like a week ago right? Haven't noticed you before tbh..

[SASdynasty!]

If Parker missed 2 game winners from under 5 feet, while shooting 25% for the game, ST would have a meltdown. But somehow Parker goes for 22/6 on 56% and still gets the blame. Go figure.

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you the biggest faggot on ST? :lmao
You block FkLA posts?

[DPG21920]

Giving them the win so they'd trade korver for porker straight up :wakeup

:lol glad I didnt get to watch this game

You missed a really fun regular season game honestly.

[dabom]

ST favorites (dleague, house, kiwi) are to blame for tonight. No logical reason to blame parker, lmalpha, and gasol.

You only show up after loses. :lmao

Gutless fans. :lmao

[bbarry]

Third loss on the road, not in a row. Idk about the 2nd part lol but don't think that was it

Ahh that makes a bit more sense lol

[resistanze]

Nah. I didn't. You just started posting like a week ago right? Haven't noticed you before tbh..

:lol

[spursistan]

Gasol/LMA couldn't help but soften it up in the end...Horrible boxouts..

[spursgu]

Are you the biggest faggot on ST? :lmao

thank you someone else agrees with me on this faggot poster.

[DPG21920]

:lol

:bobo

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If you want a chance at the first seed, you can't play this poorly against average teams. Being down in the first half to two of the worst defensive in the league at home is not good Basketball. Spurs have played poorly lately.

anyway, I think they've thrown out their chances for the first seed and are now going to be fighting tooth and nail with Houston for the 2nd seed. I would not want to play the Rockets without homecourt advantage.

Honestly, this team doesn't have a prayer to beat the Warriors 4 times in 7 and the Warriors are much less likely to blow the "easy" games than the Spurs are who are playing several notches below the Warriors have even though the Spurs had been winning games to their credit.

I think Spurs can beat HOU with HCA, but Houston is going to be a 7 game series and a tough matchup for us.

[100%duncan]

You missed a really fun regular season game honestly.

Nah. I suck at taking spurs losses

[Russ]

I will never understand why, with a three point lead and ten seconds to go, you do not foul.

I will never understand.

[SASdynasty!]

Giving them the win so they'd trade korver for porker straight up :wakeup

:lol glad I didnt get to watch this game
Parker was money all night, scoring and distributing (double anyone else on the team as usual).

[gambit1990]

just lol at Enrique playing hero

Please shut up. It's just annoying now.
:lmao

parker went 1 for 5 the last 6 1/2 minutes of the game.

[Ice009]

I doubt it faggot. Your assessments are garbage. Take a hike. :tu

You don't recall Kawhi missing shots like that before? Easy layups he should have made and then inexplicably missing them? He usually does it towards the end of games. I'd prefer he take jump shots instead.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gasol is so difficult to watch, tbh..his defense is atrocious..he was actually a pretty good rim protector, last season..

It was pretty funny listening to Dominique Wilkins ripping his defense all night:lol

[DPG21920]

You only show up after loses. :lmao

Gutless fans. :lmao

Midnight's nickname is the Vulture

[GSH]

If that wasn't a 5 second violation, it was damn close. I don't even remember if the Spurs had another timeout. If they did, they should have called it and re-grouped. Atlanta came up with a great play to get their last look, and that's the best Pop could do?

I hate the fact that Pop didn't tell them to feed Kawhi to start OT, after that last shot he put up in regulation. I don't care if he had a bad game after being sick, he's still Kawhi.

I fucking hate that Pop didn't have Simmons in the game to play defense at the end, after he did so well at the end of regulation. Considering the Spurs were playing hero ball, the offense wouldn't have been much different with Simmons in. But the D would have, and that's where the Spurs got killed.

[FkLA]

:lmao

parker went 1 for 5 the last 6 1/2 minutes of the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU

smh

[BillMc]

Non Issue tbh


Looks like a good shot. I don't mind giving Kawhi every single opportunity in the RS to learn. We will need him to close out in the playoffs anyways.

These guys get it.

Road loss in OT. Nothing more than that. Kwahi hits either shot, they give LMA the continuation or Gasol has his foot slightly back on the 3 and we get the win. And all these doom sayers are silenced.

But ST gonna ST....

[spursgu]

I doubt it faggot. Your assessments are garbage. Take a hike. :tu

:lmao.

[Kawhitstorm]

anyway, I think they've thrown out their chances for the first seed and are now going to be fighting tooth and nail with Houston for the 2nd seed. I would not want to play the Rockets without homecourt advantage.

Considering the Cripples are the 7th seed, I wouldn't mind dropping to the 3rd seed.:lol

[Ice009]

Honestly, this team doesn't have a prayer to beat the Warriors 4 times in 7 and the Warriors are much less likely to blow the "easy" games than the Spurs are who are playing several notches below the Warriors have even though the Spurs had been winning games to their credit.

I think Spurs can beat HOU with HCA, but Houston is going to be a 7 game series and a tough matchup for us.

Yeah, with homecourt advantage, I think it might be a 7 game series. Without home court advantage, I don't think Spurs can beat them. Houston blow average teams out.

[dabom]

These guys get it.

Road loss in OT. Nothing more than that. Kwahi hits either shot, they give LMA the continuation or Gasol has his foot slightly back on the 3 and we get the win. And all these doom sayers are silenced.

But ST gonna ST....

Even Kawhi coming back from the shits. :lol

People with the cliffjumping like Spurs suck now. :lol

[spurs10]

These guys get it.

Road loss in OT. Nothing more than that. Kwahi hits either shot, they give LMA the continuation or Gasol has his foot slightly back on the 3 and we get the win. And all these doom sayers are silenced.

But ST gonna ST.... Troof!

[DPG21920]

:lmao

parker went 1 for 5 the last 6 1/2 minutes of the game.

And?

[dabom]

You don't recall Kawhi missing shots like that before? Easy layups he should have made and then inexplicably missing them? He usually does it towards the end of games. I'd prefer he take jump shots instead.

Almost like he was coming back from rust/shits. :lmao

[Budkin]

If Kawhi was normal Kawhi we win easily.

[Ice009]

Considering the Cripples are the 7th seed, I wouldn't mind dropping to the 3rd seed.:lol

I'd still want Home court advantage against both the Rockets and Clippers if it comes down to it. Playing and beating both those teams would be great preparation for the Warriors.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, with homecourt advantage, I think it might be a 7 game series. Without home court advantage, I don't think Spurs can beat them. Houston blow average teams out.

Spurs are 2-0 @ Houston & have a better road record than home record.:wakeup

[GSH]

I will never understand why, with a three point lead and ten seconds to go, you do not foul.

I will never understand.


Pop takes some kind of perverse pride in not doing that. I know he's a well-respected coach and all, but the results of that strategy haven't been very good.

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao

parker went 1 for 5 the last 6 1/2 minutes of the game.

These double standards are cool. Kawhi went 3-12 for the whole game. Watch him get a "C" grade for making a couple of free throws late in regulation.

[Budkin]

I will never understand why, with a three point lead and ten seconds to go, you do not foul.

I will never understand.

Because as soon as you go to foul, the player with the ball shoots and ends up with 3 from the line. Happens all the time.

[DPG21920]

Pop takes some kind of perverse pride in not doing that. I know he's a well-respected coach and all, but the results of that strategy haven't been very good.

Almost every coach doesn't foul though. Very few do.

[spursgu]

some pussies on here after every loss. and the usual spewed bullshit of "this team is screwed come playoff time." and always acting like the Warriors are such a flawless team when they have their own shortcomings. :cry buh they blow out scrub teams that the Spurs can't.

[Ice009]

Almost like he was coming back from rust/shits. :lmao

Do you not recall Kawhi missing easy layups like that before at the end of games? Answer the question, stop dodging.

If you don't recall, you're a homer with a shit memory.

[GSH]

Almost every coach doesn't foul though. Very few do.

Yeah, I know. Probably why they're coaches, and I'm not. One of the reasons, anyway.

[dabom]

some pussies on here after every loss. and the usual spewed bullshit of "this team is screwed come playoff time." and always acting like the Warriors are such a flawless team when they have their own shortcomings. :cry buh they blow out scrub teams that the Spurs can't.

:wow

[BillMc]

If Kawhi was normal Kawhi we win easily.
Yep.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, I know. Probably why they're coaches, and I'm not. One of the reasons, anyway.

Haha - I agree. I would foul and that's even with being a guy that really buys into playing the proper odds (which not fouling technically falls into). But I would do it.

[Kawhitstorm]

If Kawhi was normal Kawhi we win easily.

Basically, it took a much less than 100% Kawhi & Hardaway going off for a career high to pull off a miraculous home win.

[dabom]

Do you not recall Kawhi missing easy layups like that before at the end of games? Answer the question, stop dodging.

If you don't recall, you're a homer with a shit memory.

Are you gonna use this game and analyse Kawhi? :lol

Dude was coming back from the shits. Anyone who actually takes anything out of this game. :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

Do you not recall Kawhi missing easy layups like that before at the end of games? Answer the question, stop dodging.

If you don't recall, you're a homer with a shit memory.

He missed the layup against Houston but LMA got the blame because he couldn't put back the bunny off of Kawhi's brick.

[BillMc]

Nice game by LMA even in the loss.

[hooperflash]

I'm starting to worry about the squad, we haven't won a single game this year.

[Ice009]

Spurs are 2-0 @ Houston & have a better road record than home record.:wakeup

Name me some teams in NBA history that have won more games on the road in the playoffs than at home and won the Championship. That kind of thing can help, but you can't expect to win Championships without home court advantage. If the Spurs finish 3rd, then they might be in a situation where round 2, 3 and finals will be on the road. They're also playing against the Cavs for the 2nd overall seed, not just Houston.

That kind of thing is great in the regular season, but it won't translate as much in the playoffs when they're not playing against average teams on the road.

[BillMc]

I'm starting to worry about the squad, we haven't won a single game this year.
:lol

[gambit1990]

And?
you said someone was being annoying for saying parker was heroballing after ending regulation 0 for 2. then he heroballed more and went 1-3 :lol

[FkLA]

And?

We lost because of his hero tendencies?

[spursistan]

815737173357887488

Chicago fans hated his guts for the terrible boxouts..Hope Pop never put him out there in last possession situations..

[gambit1990]

TP clutch.
ends the game 1 for 5 :lmao

[bklynspursfan]

That long FT just bounced to Hawks, it was unfortunate. I'd have Lee out there tho, then possibly Dedmon. But Lee is scrappy, and we need that feistyness

[BillMc]

Basically, it took a much less than 100% Kawhi & Hardaway going off for a career high to pull off a miraculous home win.
This

[FkLA]

ends the game 1 for 5 :lmao

:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Name me some teams in NBA history that have won more games on the road in the playoffs than at home and won the Championship. That kind of thing can help, but you can't expect to win Championships without home court advantage. If the Spurs finish 3rd, then they might be in a situation where round 2, 3 and finals will be on the road. They're also playing against the Cavs for the 2nd overall seed, not just Houston.

That kind of thing is great in the regular season, but it won't translate as much in the playoffs when they're not playing against average teams on the road.

Bruh, we're talking about the Rockets whom they swept on the road.

[Ice009]

Tony gets tunnel vision when he's playing well and tries to be clutch. It usually doesn't work out in big games. It can in the regular season, but against good teams, it usually doesn't work out too well. Unfortunately, it didn't even work out against an average team. He played a great game up until the end.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ice009 is one of the most dominant posters here tbh. Absolutely nuking Kiwitards right now :wow

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm starting to worry about the squad, we haven't won a single game this year.

:lmao

[SASdynasty!]

ends the game 1 for 5 :lmao
Parker: 22/6 on 56%
Kawhi: 13/4 on 25%
Mills: 5/3 on 25%

[TheGreatYacht]

ends the game 1 for 5 :lmao
How did Kiwi shoot on the last shots of the 4th and OT?

[FkLA]

Ice009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1302) is one of the most dominant posters here tbh. Absolutely nuking Kiwitards right now :wow

:lol I agree:


Tony gets tunnel vision when he's playing well and tries to be clutch. It usually doesn't work out in big games. It can in the regular season, but against good teams, it usually doesn't work out too well. Unfortunately, it didn't even work out against an average team. He played a great game up until the end.

[SASdynasty!]

We lost because of his hero tendencies?
Oh, you mean the "heroballer" that had twice as many assists as anyone else on the team? He's the only one NOT heroballing tbh.

[Ice009]

Bruh, we're talking about the Rockets whom they swept on the road.

listen up. How many points were those wins by??????????????????????????????????????????

LOL, you're going to come back with this. They could have easily lost both of those games. The second win, you could even say they stole that from the jaws of defeat. Come on man. They were both great wins, but if any non-Spurs fans were watching those games, they could say the Spurs got lucky to win either one of them, let alone both. You think that is an indication they'll do well in Houston on the road in the playoffs? Two close wins they could have easily, easily lost?

[SASdynasty!]

How did Kiwi shoot on the last shots of the 4th and OT?
What were his stats on shots in the last 5 seconds from 5 feet and under?

[dabom]

listen up. How many points were those wins by??????????????????????????????????????????

LOL, you're going to come back with this. They could have easily lost both of those games. The second win, you could even say they stole that from the jaws of defeat. Come on man. They were both great wins, but if any non-Spurs fans were watching those games, they could say the Spurs got lucky to win either one of them, let alone both. You think that is an indication they'll do well in Houston on the road in the playoffs? Two close wins they could have easily, easily lost?

Are we seriously playing the what if game? :lmao

[FkLA]

Porker has two modes.

1. Suck and be the worst starter in the league.
2. Play well and try to take over the game.

His ego prevents him from playing well and being a complimentary player. He has to be the guy if he's not sucking.

[DPG21920]

We lost because of his hero tendencies?

No.

[Kawhitstorm]

How did Kiwi shoot on the last shots of the 4th and OT?

Better than 100% Porker who supposedly was on FIYAH but then he's TOSB.:wakeup

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol I agree:
Glad we agree on this post :tu


You don't recall Kawhi missing shots like that before? Easy layups he should have made and then inexplicably missing them? He usually does it towards the end of games. I'd prefer he take jump shots instead.

[Spurtacular]

That's bull shit that no effort Pau is getting all those minutes down the stretch when Dedmon is an actual intangibles guy who gets it done on defense and on the boards.

[Kawhitstorm]

listen up. How many points were those wins by??????????????????????????????????????????

LOL, you're going to come back with this. They could have easily lost both of those games. The second win, you could even say they stole that from the jaws of defeat. Come on man. They were both great wins, but if any non-Spurs fans were watching those games, they could say the Spurs got lucky to win either one of them, let alone both. You think that is an indication they'll do well in Houston on the road in the playoffs? Two close wins they could have easily, easily lost?

So you mean to tell me the Spurs won two games on the road that simulated a playoff atmosphere.:toast

[FkLA]

Oh, you mean the "heroballer" that had twice as many assists as anyone else on the team? He's the only one NOT heroballing tbh.

It's 2017, Kawhi is a top 5 player and LMAlpha has been balling, yet Enrique still led the team in FGAs. :lol

[DPG21920]

It's 2017, Kawhi is a top 5 player and LMAlpha has been balling, yet Enrique still lead the team in FGAs. :lol

This is stupid, but you know that so it's not really worth discussing. It's pretty clear you dont actually watch the games. If you do, I would lie and say you didn't so that no one thinks you are actually evaluating a basketball game :lol

[Robz4000]

listen up. How many points were those wins by??????????????????????????????????????????

LOL, you're going to come back with this. They could have easily lost both of those games. The second win, you could even say they stole that from the jaws of defeat. Come on man. They were both great wins, but if any non-Spurs fans were watching those games, they could say the Spurs got lucky to win either one of them, let alone both. You think that is an indication they'll do well in Houston on the road in the playoffs? Two close wins they could have easily, easily lost?

They had a 16 point lead in the fourth quarter of the first game; it wasn't a game they snatched from the jaws of defeat. Not saying Houston won't be tough (if the Spurs even get that far) but they were in control of that first game for just about all of it.

[BillMc]

That's bull shit that no effort Pau is getting all those minutes down the stretch when Dedmon is an actual intangibles guy who gets it done on defense and on the boards.
Dedmon is a foul magnet with no offensive skills.

[Ice009]

Oh, you mean the "heroballer" that had twice as many assists as anyone else on the team? He's the only one NOT heroballing tbh.

He didn't "hero ball" the whole game. He played a great game up until the end where he "hero balled" the fuck out of it. Throughout his career, he's gotten away with it against average teams, but it normally fails in the playoffs against good teams that we've ended up losing to. That "hero balling" has contributed to series losses for the Spurs.

If you're going to talk about assists, why didn't he try and get the ball to LA instead of going 1 of 5 to finish?????? You know, LA, the guy that was having a great game and shooting the ball well when he got open looks. The guy that was swishing open shots. Could the point guard have actually tried getting him the ball? Could the PG have tried running plays to generate good looks for Aldridge? Could he have actually done that instead of trying to win the game himself by hero balling?

[FkLA]

This is stupid, but you know that so it's not really worth discussing. It's pretty clear you dont actually watch the games. If you do, I would lie and say you didn't so that no one thinks you are actually evaluating a basketball game :lol

That post you quoted is a factual statement.

[GSH]

Basically, it took a much less than 100% Kawhi & Hardaway going off for a career high to pull off a miraculous home win.


Yeah, the funny thing is that I don't feel nearly as bad about this loss as I have some of the wins this season. They didn't dig themselves into an early hole. Kawhi clearly wasn't himself. And it still took a lot of things going the right way for Atlanta to squeak out the win at home.

It may not seem like it, but the Spurs lost that game at the end of the 3rd quarter. They were playing really good defense, and had built up a 10 point lead. They could have cut the Hawk's heart out right there. Pop made some substitutions I wasn't crazy about, and Atlanta made those three 3P's in a row to close the lead to 5 at the end of the quarter. After that, it was a horse race, and it shouldn't have been.

[Hoops Czar]

It's 2017, Kawhi is a top 5 player and LMAlpha has been balling, yet Enrique still led the team in FGAs. :lol


FGA's

Kawhi 16.9
LMA 13.9
Gashole 10.0
Parker 9.7

At least get your stats and figures straight.

[gambit1990]

tp needs to distribute more

It's not TP's fault.

nothing is according to you.

later that game...

We lost because of his hero tendencies?

No.
:lol

[Ice009]

They had a 16 point lead in the fourth quarter of the first game; it wasn't a game they snatched from the jaws of defeat. Not saying Houston won't be tough (if the Spurs even get that far) but they were in control of that first game for just about all of it.

I was obviously referring to the second game they stole. The first game shows you even with a decent lead, they nearly lost that one too. Houston has improved a lot since then. The second game was also coming off of a game they lost at home to Houston with Kawhi missing a layup at the end.

[Spurtacular]

Dedmon is a foul magnet with no offensive skills.

106-112; yea, that might be the time to have Pau in the game for the extra offense and floor spacing. But the game got to that point because Pau was too old, slow and tired to play help defense. The dude's a traffic cone. How many consecutive minutes did Pop play him in the 4th and OT? He's 38, not 28.

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1IYwkBVIAAfWYH.jpg

[bklynspursfan]

815740630454456321

[BillMc]

Yeah, the funny thing is that I don't feel nearly as bad about this loss as I have some of the wins this season. They didn't dig themselves into an early hole. Kawhi clearly wasn't himself. And it still took a lot of things going the right way for Atlanta to squeak out the win at home.

It may not seem like it, but the Spurs lost that game at the end of the 3rd quarter. They were playing really good defense, and had built up a 10 point lead. They could have cut the Hawk's heart out right there. Pop made some substitutions I wasn't crazy about, and Atlanta made those three 3P's in a row to close the lead to 5 at the end of the quarter. After that, it was a horse race, and it shouldn't have been.

good post

I agree on both points. There have been worse wins than this loss in terms of execution and effort. And once you let a team back in it approaching the end of a game or OT, random chance plays more of an effect on the outcome.

[TheGreatYacht]

FGA's

Kawhi 16.9
LMA 13.9
Gashole 10.0
Parker 9.7

At least get your stats and figures straight.
God damn fucking shame

Remember when this team wasn't first round fodder back when Kiwi just stood in the corner?

[Robz4000]

I was obviously referring to the second game they stole. The first game shows you even with a decent lead, they nearly lost that one too. Houston has improved a lot since then. The second game was also coming off of a game they lost at home to Houston with Kawhi missing a layup at the end.

They didn't nearly lose it though. Houston got it down to four points with less than a minute to go and never got any closer, and a lot of that comeback had to do with awful rotations by Pop (albeit they've cost us the last two years in the playoffs as well).

[spursistan]

815740630454456321
Express news beat writers :lmao

[FkLA]

FGA's

Kawhi 16.9
LMA 13.9
Gashole 10.0
Parker 9.7

At least get your stats and figures straight.

Who's led the team in FGAs the past three games?

And if you listen to his post-game interviews he's just rounding into form. Expect to see his hero cape more often.

[Robz4000]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1IYwkBVIAAfWYH.jpg

Of course he's from Atlanta. I remember them doing an interview on NBA TV with some of the officials and they talked about how they never got to officiate games in their hometowns. League really wanted a Spurs loss tonight.

[Ice009]

The past two games without Kawhi, Parker has found hero ball mode and he doesn't seem to want to go back to his role. That's the problem with Parker. It's freaking great that he's been playing well, great to see, but he really doesn't want that role Pop has given him in my opinion. Anytime he plays well, he wants to go back to 2012, 2013. He can't help himself, which is unfortunate for both the team and himself.

[Ice009]

They didn't nearly lose it though. Houston got it down to four points with less than a minute to go and never got any closer, and a lot of that comeback had to do with awful rotations by Pop (albeit they've cost us the last two years in the playoffs as well).

They had a chance to lose it, though, just like they had a chance to win this game but didn't.

[Kawhitstorm]

YPop made some substitutions I wasn't crazy about, and Atlanta made those three 3P's in a row to close the lead to 5 at the end of the quarter. After that, it was a horse race, and it shouldn't have been.

Pop putting Lee on Millsap was the turning point of the game along w/ the bench crew w/ no playmakers in the line-up.:lol

[RD2191]

Everybody should just chill the fuck out. Fact of the matter is these games shouldn't even be close. We're just not that good of a team right now. We aren't that bad all things considered but still have a ways to go towards being a true contender.

[dabom]

They had a chance to lose it, though, just like they had a chance to win this game but didn't.

Well then aren't you a genius. :lol

[DPG21920]

That post you quoted is a factual statement.

It's an intellectually dishonest use of a fact.

[DPG21920]

later that game...


:lol

And?

[Ice009]

Everybody should just chill the fuck out. Fact of the matter is these games shouldn't even be close. We're just not that good of a team right now. We aren't that bad all things considered but still have a ways to go towards being a true contender.

I agree with this whole statement 100%.

[bklynspursfan]

The past two games without Kawhi, Parker has found hero ball mode and he doesn't seem to want to go back to his role. That's the problem with Parker. It's freaking great that he's been playing well, great to see, but he just doesn't want that role Pop has given him. Anytime he plays well, he wants to go back to 2012, 2013. He can't help himself, which is unfortunate for both the team and himself.

Hes playing the game as needed. When Kawhi is 100%, he will go back to how he was. Kawhi was back tonight, but he clearly wasn't back.

Trust, Pop is telling him to be aggressive. On Tuesday, we'll see a different TP more of likely , and we'll be better.

Regardleas, he's still the best in our SL and breaking down defenses and finishing around the paint. Which is good, cause early on in the year he was missing lots of shots in the paint. We need everybody at their best to have a shot in the end

[TheGreatYacht]

Everybody should just chill the fuck out.
:wow

[gambit1990]

The past two games without Kawhi, Parker has found hero ball mode and he doesn't seem to want to go back to his role. That's the problem with Parker.
my thoughts exactly.

[GSH]

Dedmon is a foul magnet with no offensive skills.


That's not really fair, Bill. For the first couple of seasons, Tiago was more of a foul magnet than Dedmon. Diaw fouled just about as much as Dedmon, his first couple of NBA seasons, and was just about as offensively challenged (believe it or not). Hell, Millsap was MUCH more of a foul magnet than Dedmon for his first 5-6 seasons in the league.

At least he's not passive on defense, and for the most part he's played more controlled over the last month. in the last few games, he's made several smart fouls, when the defense broke down and it was foul or give up a freebie. (And they have missed some FT's that made those fouls look like the right thing to do.) When you're playing that few minutes, one more foul can change the per-36 number drastically.

I don't disagree that he still picks up some unnecessary fouls, or that he isn't a scoring threat on his own. But he's in there for defense, and he's been doing a respectable job of that. If you're comparing him to the average starting C in the league, he's not there. But you don't pick up those kinds of centers as UFA's, for small contracts.

The fact that people are even talking about Dedmon starting in place of Pau has a lot to do with Pau's lazy defense. I don't know if Dedmon could really work out as a starter this season, but I do think that Pau's defense is a big contributor to the early holes the Spurs have found themselves in.

[SASdynasty!]

Porker has two modes.

1. Suck and be the worst starter in the league.
2. Play well and try to take over the game.

His ego prevents him from playing well and being a complimentary player. He has to be the guy if he's not sucking.
Hey, if going 3/12 and missing 2 bunny gamewinners that were run for him isn't a bad game for Kawhi, we probably need a new "superstar."

[Ice009]

Pau's a square peg trying to fit into a round hole in that starting lineup. He just doesn't fit. His defense and contested rebounding is just too poor. Not to even mention that he doesn't even box out. I hate to say this, but I would rather Kyle out there playing defense and trying to rebound in the same end of game situations. That's just how piss poor Gasol has been on the defensive end. I wish TD was out there instead.

It looks like the Spurs thought they were getting a replacement for Tim, but what they got instead was a square peg. It looks like a bad signing so far.

[Ice009]

Hes playing the game as needed. When Kawhi is 100%, he will go back to how he was. Kawhi was back tonight, but he clearly wasn't back.

Trust, Pop is telling him to be aggressive. On Tuesday, we'll see a different TP more of likely, and we'll be better.

Regardless, he's still the best in our SL and breaking down defenses and finishing around the paint. Which is good, cause early on in the year he was missing lots of shots in the paint. We need everybody at their best to have a shot in the end

Nah. He found himself a little bit (which is great as he's looking a lot better), but he wants to continue on. I don't think he wants to go back to role player status. We'll see, though.

[bklynspursfan]

Nah. He found himself a little bit (which is great as he's looking a lot better), but he wants to continue on. I don't think he wants to go back to role player status. We'll see, though.

Honestly, you might be right. Who wants to do that? I mean thinking about it realistically, these guys are prideful.

However, I guess where I disagree is thinking he'll just start going crazy and worrying about himself before the team. If he has an advantage, he'll likely be instructed to take advantage. But he knows what the deal is

[TheGreatYacht]

Hey, if going 3/12 and missing 2 bunny gamewinners that were run for him isn't a bad game for Kawhi, we probably need a new "superstar."
Was Matt Barnes in that building yesterday?

[FkLA]

The past two games without Kawhi, Parker has found hero ball mode and he doesn't seem to want to go back to his role. That's the problem with Parker. It's freaking great that he's been playing well, great to see, but he really doesn't want that role Pop has given him in my opinion. Anytime he plays well, he wants to go back to 2012, 2013. He can't help himself, which is unfortunate for both the team and himself.

https://media.tenor.co/images/1c6943c372187ed186416b895f4eb06c/raw

[Ice009]

Honestly, you might be right. Who wants to do that? I mean thinking about it realistically, these guys are prideful.

However, I guess where I disagree is thinking he'll just start going crazy and worrying about himself before the team. If he has an advantage, he'll likely be instructed to take advantage. But he knows what the deal is

Again, it's OK that he's aggressive, but it's also all about balance. That's something he hasn't really learned. He gets tunnel vision when he's playing that well offensively. That's not a good trait to have for a PG. LA was very warm/hot from the field again tonight, and I don't think Tony looked for him enough at the end of the game. He got tunnel vision and tried to make plays for himself instead of someone like Aldridge who had the hot hand.

[Kawhitstorm]

Not mad at this loss, it will teach Pop not to play Pau at the end of game where you need defensive rebounds & not to put the ball in Porker's hands at the end of games even if he was playing well.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Not mad at this loss, it will teach Pop not to play Pau at the end of game where you need defensive rebounds & not to put the ball in Porker's hands at the end of games even if he was playing well.

I was really proud of Pop earlier in the season for benching Pau late ibut keeping Pau out there was a death knell in the end. His horrific defense just doesn't make up for the offense his gives this team which is rather erratic. He has moments of defensive competence but way too many times does his lack of effort rear its ugly head. It's weird since you'd think Pop would despise those type of defensive lapses. The Simmons and Anderson subs at the very end of OT were also bizarre. Anderson's pass at the end was nearly a turnover.

I just don't get why Pau can't come off the bench. I am thinking the Spurs FO made a promise to Pau that he would be a starter no matter what as it's really hurting the team as having two of some of the worst defenders in the league with Pau and Parker is too much sometimes. You can't start a game where 40% of your starting lineup strikes joy into the heart of your opponents. Having Pau trying to defend the pick and roll is just sad, and other teams know it.

[spursistan]

Not mad at this loss, it will teach Pop not to play Pau at the end of game where you need defensive rebounds & not to put the ball in Porker's hands at the end of games even if he was playing well.

:lol

This was more like playoffs Pop...

[timtonymanu]

:lol

This was more like playoffs Pop...

Knowing Pops track record since 2014, he won't realize it anyway. Watch Dedmon get the Splitter treatment in the playoffs while the Spurs lose in the 1st round to the Cripples.

[szkorhetz]

How happy the Golden Boy was after that Hardaway three. :D

And everyone who denied Leonard's drop on defense. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[From Downtown]

For what is worth the commentator for the Italian Tv (he's pretty close with RC and the whole organization as well as Manu) said the Spurs NYE'S dinner wasn't the quitest they've ever had, according to "sources" :lol

[BillMc]

For what is worth the commentator for the Italian Tv (he's pretty close with RC and the whole organization as well as Manu) said the Spurs NYE'S dinner wasn't the quitest they've ever had, according to "sources" :lol
:lol:toast

Glad they had a good time.

[Mugen]

:lol Good game, happy for Bud tbh....

Largely irrelevant but not sure why Fathead was in the game on that last poss. tbh...

[SAGirl]

For what is worth the commentator for the Italian Tv (he's pretty close with RC and the whole organization as well as Manu) said the Spurs NYE'S dinner wasn't the quitest they've ever had, according to "sources" :lol
Lol:toast
With so many team players right now being a lot younger... it would not surprise me if the partying was quite energetic.
:lol

[SAGirl]

:lol Good game, happy for Bud tbh....

Largely irrelevant but not sure why Fathead was in the game on that last poss. tbh...
Sure thing,
He was culpable for blown layups and Pop's play not freeing anyone and having to improvise where to place the ball... by the way, not TO... it was Danny running into Kawhi... I imagine bc he also ran towards the ball. :lol

[sasaint]

Sure thing,
He was culpable for blown layups and Pop's play not freeing anyone and having to improvise where to place the ball... by the way, not TO... it was Danny running into Kawhi... I imagine bc he also ran towards the ball. :lol

That last play was chaotic, timing was off, and nobody was setting any effective screens. Frankly, I wish Kawhi had just pulled up for about an 8-footer that was wide open rather than taking it all the way to the hole where things got congested.

[G-Dawgg]

Leonard has showed some choker tendencies...

[DPG21920]

Leonard has showed some choker tendencies...

It's really amazing to me how much people are influenced and blinded by individual occurrences. Kawhi hit the 3 to tie it in regulation, but because his attack minded shot didn't fall (it rolled around the rim twice) he's shown some "choker" tendencies.

He's made plenty of big shots, went toe-to-toe with perhaps the best player ever in NBA history (Lebron in the finals) and won finals MVP.

Really choker of him.

[Maddog]

good post

I agree on both points. There have been worse wins than this loss in terms of execution and effort. And once you let a team back in it approaching the end of a game or OT, random chance plays more of an effect on the outcome.

I'm not overly perturbed by the loss. Your best player is still recovering from illness probably shouldn't have played,
a guy on their bench shooting .324 from 3 goes 6-7. and you lose in OT on the road. Things like this happen over 82 games.




By the way anybody have a gif of that screen on Manu at the end of regulation?

[MI21]

Just an NBA season loss against a decent squad that got a career game from a bench guy while the Spurs best player wasn't 100% and missed a layup to force 2OT. The viability and quality of the team is no different than if Kawhi makes a 3 and wins the game really. Spurs have had a some "flukish" wins and just got done in by the opposition having a flukish win, it happens.

Would be nice if it would happen to GSW though, 2.5 game lead or whatever it is is nothing yet, but if the Spurs get 3/4 games behind I don't see them having a chance of catching GSW.

[MI21]

:lol at calling Kawhi a choker.

He is standard Kawhi generally at the end of games, which is pretty spectacular.

[sasaint]

It's really amazing to me how much people are influenced and blinded by individual occurrences. Kawhi hit the 3 to tie it in regulation, but because his attack minded shot didn't fall (it rolled around the rim twice) he's shown some "choker" tendencies.

He's made plenty of big shots, went toe-to-toe with perhaps the best player ever in NBA history (Lebron in the finals) and won finals MVP.

Really choker of him.

Not to mention Kawhi was still suffering from the flu or its aftermath.

[timtonymanu]

It's really amazing to me how much people are influenced and blinded by individual occurrences. Kawhi hit the 3 to tie it in regulation, but because his attack minded shot didn't fall (it rolled around the rim twice) he's shown some "choker" tendencies.

He's made plenty of big shots, went toe-to-toe with perhaps the best player ever in NBA history (Lebron in the finals) and won finals MVP.

Really choker of him.

At the same time they act like the big 3 never "choked" themselves. Everyone misses big shots. Kawhi has actually been pretty clutch this season.

[skulls138]

That last play was chaotic, timing was off, and nobody was setting any effective screens. Frankly, I wish Kawhi had just pulled up for about an 8-footer that was wide open rather than taking it all the way to the hole where things got congested.Honestly it was a great move but he just didnt have that soft touch to put it in.

[LakerHater]

LakerHater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4302) gif of that TP-Danny hug :tuI have the Hawks feed. if anyones gotta clip of it.