This is what happens when you let him play hero

[FkLA]

Kawhi/LMAlpha one-two punch

That's the winning formula. Stick to it. Tell Enrique's egotistical ass to stand in the corner or to go sit in the bench. It's 2017 and he still likes to play dress up with his hero cape. Dude needs to grow the fuck up, tbh.

[dabom]

Word. :tu

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Parker and Gasol are going to send this team to a first round exit. Parker played well for the most part today but he shouldn't be seeing more than 20 mpg. Gasol should be getting just as many minutes as Lee and less than Dedmon.

Spurs FO really dropped the ball in signing Gasol when the team's backcourt depth is one of the worst in the entire league.

[spursistan]

Kawhi was dog shit, so I can't blame him for trying to go Enrique...some poor shot selection in OT, but this is not on Tony...Kawhi has a trash immune system; he needs a 10 days to fully recover from a minor flu; not the first time..

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhobe was the only starter with a negative (+/-) and also built a house shooting 3/12......

MVParker - 22pts, 3reb, 6ast, 10/18fg
LMAlpha - 27pts, 13reb, 2ast, 3blk, 13/17fg
MVPau - 18pts, 9reb, 2ast, 1blk, 6/10fg

[FkLA]

It's a lose-lose with Enrique really.

He plays bad and he's arguably the worst starter in the league.

He plays well and he uses it as an excuse to put his hero cape on during big moments. And predictably he almost never comes through.

There's no in-between. He's incapable of picking his spots and just playing well as a complimentary player. He has to be the guy if he's playing well.

[dabom]

Dude is a negative impact player.

[FkLA]

Kawhobe was the only starter with a negative (+/-) and also built a house shooting 3/12......

MVParker - 22pts, 3reb, 6ast, 10/18fg
LMAlpha - 27pts, 13reb, 2ast, 3blk, 13/17fg
MVPau - 18pts, 9reb, 2ast, 1blk, 6/10fg

Just lol at Enrique leading the team in FGAs.

We feed LMAlpha in OT, we win. The hero wanted to flex his hero muscles instead though.

[TheGreatYacht]

We feed LMAlpha in OT, we win. The hero wanted to flex his hero muscles instead though.
Completely agree. There was no reason to have Kawhobe on the court and going to the rim like Danny Green

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker played well, tbh..

People need to accept that as long as Parker is on the team, he needs to shoot any time the defense asks him to and take advantage of mismatches, run the offense, etc..

Parker is virtually useless as an off-ball player, nowadays..it doesn't make sense to have him on the floor and not have the ball in his hands..it's unfortunate, but that's what the organization has chosen, they're going to ride with him until he retires..

[AFMadison]

Kawhi/LMAlpha one-two punch

That's the winning formula. Stick to it. Tell Enrique's egotistical ass to stand in the corner or to go sit in the bench. It's 2017 and he still likes to play dress up with his hero cape. Dude needs to grow the fuck up, tbh.
Thank god you're not running the team. Keyword team. Everyone goes out there and plays, Kawhi had his chance and missed. On to the next one.

[FkLA]

:lol No thanks. An Enrique led team never amounted to anything during his prime, much less now that it's 2017. I'd rather he suck off-ball than have him lead the team in FGAs/usage, tbh.

[ElNono]

January Parker tbh

[gambit1990]

lma is shooting 75% the last three games :wow
good thing we have parker out there, he's taken 17 more shot attempts over the same period of time :lol

[MI21]

Agreed, Tony played great defense on Kawhi at the end and made him blow an open layup.

[FkLA]

lma is shooting 75% the last three games :wow
good thing we have parker out there, he's taken 17 more shot attempts over the same period of time :lol

Wow that is absolutely disgusting, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Wow that is absolutely disgusting, tbh.

Do you watch the games?

[FkLA]

Do you watch the games?

Yes.

[apalisoc_9]

And to think this FGA rate is going to hold up till 2018

:lmao

[DPG21920]

Yes.

Are you sure?

[gambit1990]

people here saying that it's cool manu and parker have throwback games... one is starting and 5 years younger :lmao and manu actually plays defense :lol

[FkLA]

Are you sure?

Yes.

Why are you ok with Enrique leading the team in FGAs in three consecutive games in 2017?

[DPG21920]

Yes.

Why are you ok with Enrique leading the team in FGAs in three consecutive games in 2017?

Is it Standard Definition or HD?

[FkLA]

I answered two of your questions already. I refuse to answer more while you ignore mine.

[midnightpulp]

Parker played well, tbh..

People need to accept that as long as Parker is on the team, he needs to shoot any time the defense asks him to and take advantage of mismatches, run the offense, etc..

Parker is virtually useless as an off-ball player, nowadays..it doesn't make sense to have him on the floor and not have the ball in his hands..it's unfortunate, but that's what the organization has chosen, they're going to ride with him until he retires..

This.

We're committed. Patty House isn't walking through that door as an effective long-term starter. He's a "microwave" player and that's it.

[DPG21920]

I answered two of your questions already. I refuse to answer more while you ignore mine.

You aren't watching the games if you are asking that question.

[Ice009]

Kawhi was dog shit, so I can't blame him for trying to go Enrique...some poor shot selection in OT, but this is not on Tony...Kawhi has a trash immune system; he needs a 10 days to fully recover from a minor flu; not the first time..

I actually wonder what kind of diet he's on. I've always thought he takes too long to recover from minor ailments. Hopefully, he's eating good, healthy food and not stuffing himself with synthetic shit to aid in muscle building.

[YGWHI]

Tony played great defense on Kawhi

Couldn't agree more. Paker always plays great defense against Kawhi and LMA, he does an amazing job denying them the ball in the 4th quarter.

LMA had a great offensive game and then Parker barely run a set a play for him in the 4th. Also, he just passed to Kawhi only after a broken play or remaining less than 4 seconds in the shot-clock.

Where did Parker asts to LMA and Kawhi in the final minutes and OT? He had a rare way to be a facilitator for their offense.

[Ice009]

people here saying that it's cool manu and parker have throwback games... one is starting and 5 years younger :lmao and manu actually plays defense :lol

lol. Good point. If Manu was 5 years younger, he'd be wrecking people and going for the 6th man of the year award. 2011 Manu was the team's best player, and 2012 Manu was one of the team's best players.

[DPG21920]

Couldn't agree more. Paker always plays great defense against Kawhi and LMA doing an amazing job denying them the ball in the 4th quarter.

LMA had a great offensive game and then Parker barely run a set a play for him in the 4th. Also, he just passed to Kawhi only after a broken play or remaining less than 4 seconds in the shot-clock.

Where did Parker asts to LMA and Kawhi in the final minutes and OT? He had a rare way to be a facilitator for their offense.

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays to run

[YGWHI]

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays to run

:lmao Thinking Pop calls every play in a quarter

[DPG21920]

:lmao Thinking Pop calls every play in a quarter

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays

[YGWHI]

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays
:lmao Thinking Pop would call a play for Parker ignoring LMA's favorable matchup with Dennis guarding him

[UZER]

Kawhi was dog shit, so I can't blame him for trying to go Enrique...some poor shot selection in OT, but this is not on Tony...Kawhi has a trash immune system; he needs a 10 days to fully recover from a minor flu; not the first time..


I actually wonder what kind of diet he's on. I've always thought he takes too long to recover from minor ailments. Hopefully, he's eating good, healthy food and not stuffing himself with synthetic shit to aid in muscle building.

Maybe he's got HIV, or Hep C. :lol

[Ice009]

Thinking that Parker can't actually change a play or run a different play if he sees someone open out there. Oops, you can't really see much if you have tunnel vision. My bad.

[YGWHI]

Parker is virtually useless as an off-ball player, nowadays..it doesn't make sense to have him on the floor and not have the ball in his hands..it's unfortunate, but that's what the organization has chosen, they're going to ride with him until he retires..

Does it really make sense for the Spurs? Paker having more offensive opportunities than the two team-main scorers?

He can take some shots to keep the defense honest or takes what defense gives to him but averaging more FGAs than LMA and Kawhi is a winning formula for the Spurs?

[YGWHI]

Thinking that Parker can't actually change a play or run a different play if he sees someone open out there. Oops, you can't really see much if you have tunnel vision. My bad.

After Parker missed Kawhi in the post against Neto last season I realized he simply has that fucking tunnel vision.

Sadly, Parker'll keep ignoring Kawhi/LMA in crucial plays. This time was LMA.

[DMC]

KL's first game back, was rusty, out of sync. Non issue.

[J_Paco]

:lol No thanks. An Enrique led team never amounted to anything during his prime, much less now that it's 2017. I'd rather he suck off-ball than have him lead the team in FGAs/usage, tbh.

Yes, because those three straight WCF appearances, 2 straight Finals appearances & NBA championship never, ever happened......

The Parker haters here so stupid, irrational and (most of all) liars....

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Kawhi misses two game winning shots and it's parkers fault?

[bklynspursfan]

Yes, because those three straight WCF appearances, 2 straight Finals appearances & NBA championship never, ever happened......

The Parker haters here so stupid, irrational and (most of all) liars....

Bingo

[DPG21920]

Yes, because those three straight WCF appearances, 2 straight Finals appearances & NBA championship never, ever happened......

The Parker haters here so stupid, irrational and (most of all) liars....

They aren't bad people and they aren't liars (IMO) - they just have zero understanding of basketball at even a fundamental level. It's annoying but I dont think they know better.

[ElNono]

Yes, because those three straight WCF appearances, 2 straight Finals appearances & NBA championship never, ever happened......

The Parker haters here so stupid, irrational and (most of all) liars....

Don't take this the wrong way, because it actually highlights Tony's character, but the 2014 championship was won when we went away from Tony (and he accepted that, remember the whole 'I gotta trust my teammates this series'?)...

He was largely awful for 6 games against the Mavs, we closed out Portland and OKC without him on the court (not his fault, he was hurt).

It doesn't diminish all he's done for the Spurs, and that's why he's a Spur for life, tbh...

Sometimes it appears it's difficult to say stuff like this and not come out as a hater, tbh

[MaNu4Tres]

I actually wonder what kind of diet he's on. I've always thought he takes too long to recover from minor ailments. Hopefully, he's eating good, healthy food and not stuffing himself with synthetic shit to aid in muscle building.

Most muscle building for the players takes place in the off season. Players optimize rest and rehab on off days and maintain strength training here and there.

[will_spurs]

Kawhi misses two game winning shots and it's parkers fault?

Spurstalk redux.

[SpursIndonesia]

Parker is not by any mean great in this game, but he certainly is not bad much less terrible as this thread suggested -the grade thread indicates, a fair B score on him. Especially not when Gasol is so damn worthless defensively tonight, and the bench sucked big cock endlessly.

[quentin_compson]

Weird timing to make this thread after the Hawks game. Sure, Tony had two or three possessions down the stretch (espescially in OT) when he forced it a little. But overall, I thought he played a good game. He clearly took more shots in this game because someone had to pick up the slack offensively with Kawhi not being himself. Defensively, Parker is obviously going to be exposed more often than not these days, but that's his age and mileage showing and not for lack of effort.

[Brazil]

:lol 2017 and still blaming Parker for every losses
:lol 2017 still not getting it

[NameLess Scrub]

What about those 2 rebounds the Spurs didn't grab in OT which ended up being 4 FTs for the Hawks and 2 possessions that used the clock down to less than 4 seconds?

[BillMc]

good thing we have parker out there, he's taken 17 more shot attempts over the same period of time :lol

That's a bit skewed because Portland was so determined not to let LMA beat them (3 FGA) that it opened up opportunities for others including Parker.

[Clipper Nation]

Porker putting on his hero cape like...

http://i.imgur.com/pNqO36z.png

[spurraider21]

Weird timing to make this thread after the Hawks game. Sure, Tony had two or three possessions down the stretch (espescially in OT) when he forced it a little. But overall, I thought he played a good game. He clearly took more shots in this game because someone had to pick up the slack offensively with Kawhi not being himself. Defensively, Parker is obviously going to be exposed more often than not these days, but that's his age and mileage showing and not for lack of effort.its funny how people have to post like this... walking on eggshells any time they want to say something remotely positive about parker :lol

[SAGirl]

:lol 2017 and still blaming Parker for every losses
:lol 2017 still not getting it
There's a lot of deflection here... normal for Spurs talk... you can blame Kyle too..

Anyway, Kawhi was coming back from a stomach virus and had a very poor game... that's unlikely to happen regularly so it's not an issue.

[FkLA]

Porker putting on his hero cape like...

http://i.imgur.com/pNqO36z.png

:lmao :lmao

[skulls138]

:lmao :lmaoTraitor

[Brazil]

There's a lot of deflection here... normal for Spurs talk... you can blame Kyle too..

Anyway, Kawhi was coming back from a stomach virus and had a very poor game... that's unlikely to happen regularly so it's not an issue.

OP is not anymore into basketball much tbh... he is just popping up on the board at each time Parker makes a headline

Parker has five games with 2/8 FG and it is guess parker FG% for the season, Parker has then 5 games with 6/10 and it is nothing, then you have the 3 games with most FGAs and it is hero etc etc...

FkLA is still my nigg' his Diaw > Lee was legendary like the picture of his room, the trany porn posts, the Parker sucks in 2012/13... now he is a TOSB catching Parker farts

[Brazil]

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays

you can see the GNSFs tbh... thinking any player outside Manu can do the fuck he wants :lol

[bklynspursfan]

That's a bit skewed because Portland was so determined not to let LMA beat them (3 FGA) that it opened up opportunities for others including Parker.

Yes! Folks seem to ignore context and actual game action and run with box score #s.

[DPG21920]

That's a bit skewed because Portland was so determined not to let LMA beat them (3 FGA) that it opened up opportunities for others including Parker.

They know this - that is why I kept asking FkLA about his TV and if he watches the game. They are purposely being obtuse (well, not Gammbitt, he just can't see the games well because his bangs are in his eyes)

[313]

:lmao Thinking Parker calls the plays to run:lmao

[313]

:lol 2017 and still blaming Parker for every losses
:lol 2017 still not getting it

[FkLA]

you can see the GNSFs tbh... thinking any player outside Manu can do the fuck he wants :lol

Wait, are you saying every time Enrique does a heat check it's coming from Pop? He makes one basket and 90% of the time he's shooting it again next time down the floor because he's 'feeling it'. That's not on Pop. :lol

[DPG21920]

Wait, are you saying every time Enrique does a heat check it's coming from Pop? He makes one basket and 90% of the time he's shooting it again next time down the floor because he's 'feeling it'. That's not on Pop. :lol

There is absolutely nothing to back up what you just said. Nothing.

[FkLA]

I mean seriously why is Enrique incapable of just being a good complimentary player? If he's playing well he wants to be the man and lead the team in FGAs/usage. His hero mentality is his problem regardless of whether he's playing well or not, tbh.

[FkLA]

There is absolutely nothing to back up what you just said. Nothing.

Watch the games. The proof is there.

[DPG21920]

Watch the games. The proof is there.

:lol That is rich coming from you my man.

[ElNono]

tbf, both Manu and Tony got benched this season for 'doing whatever they want' and doing it wrong.

There's clearly a shorter leash for both and the onus is on Kawhi, LMA and Gasol to a lesser extent to carry us forward.

Some people might feel that leash is still longer than it needs to be, it's understandable and debatable, tbh

[bic50]

Bring back jamychal green and make him our closer.

[FkLA]

Bring back jamychal green and make him our closer.

Or just feed the two best players on the team instead of letting the team's egotistical PG play hero.

[YGWHI]

then you have the 3 games with most FGAs and it is hero etc etc...
At least they were 4 consecutive games with most FGAs than Kawhi or LMA.


They aren't bad people and they aren't liars (IMO) - they just have zero understanding of basketball at even a fundamental level. It's annoying but I dont think they know better.

Well, when your 3-4th option had 4 games in a row taking more shots with a higher USG% than the main guys on the team it's something.

This seems the Spurs norm about distribution shots now and it's very concerning.

That's why I share OP's worries...Can you imagine J.R. taking more shots than LeBron and Irving for 4 consecutive games? Can you imagine that Cavs fans would say that's OK, normal?

[DAF86]

Parker was playing great untill the end where he started sucking. There's one play in particular that got me specially mad: when he got switched into Millsap while Aldridge got matched with their two-coloured haired PG on the block. Instead of feeding LA, he forced a shot on the lane against a guy a foot taller than him. That's the kind of shit you can't tolerate from your 35 year old Point Guard, tbh.

[DPG21920]

At least they were 4 consecutive games with most FGAs than Kawhi or LMA.



Well, when your 3-4th option had 4 games in a row taking more shots with a higher USG% than the main guys on the team it's something.

This seems the Spurs norm about distribution shots now and it's very concerning.

That's why I share OP's worries...Can you imagine J.R. taking more shots than LeBron and Irving for 4 consecutive games? Can you imagine that Cavs fans would say that's OK, normal?

If Lebron was getting egregiously doubled nearly every time he touched the ball, yes, I could see JR Smith taking more shots. Especially if in some of the games they are scoring very efficiently.

Outside of one off's I don't think TP has been taking bad shots at all. TP is playing really, really well lately so Pop is calling his number a bit more. It's working right now, especially with Kawhi out and people doubling LMA a ton (like POR).

[YGWHI]

If Lebron was getting egregiously doubled nearly every time he touched the ball, yes, I could see JR Smith taking more shots. Especially if in some of the games they are scoring very efficiently.
I can see JR taking more shots too. In one game. Not in four a row.
LMA was insane-doubled in just one game against Blazers, there is no excuse for Parker FGAs in the other three.


Outside of one off's I don't think TP has been taking bad shots at all. TP is playing really, really well lately so Pop is calling his number a bit more. It's working right now, especially with Kawhi out and people doubling LMA a ton (like POR).

No. It's not 'a bit more' when he had the most FGAs.

And no. We can't say it's working when we lost to Hawks and they beat two mediocre teams like Blazers and Suns in the previous games.

If people criticize Parker it's not like they hate him, at least I don't.

Sure, I'd like to see him in a more limited role, Manu too.
But not because I don't like/love them but because I truly believe it's not a winning formula for the Spurs having Parker with a big offensive role over Kawhi/LMA against decent, good, or elite teams.

If he would have played for LMA instead of looking for his own shot and missed in the last minutes, the result would be different.

[YGWHI]

Parker was playing great untill the end where he started sucking. There's one play in particular that got me specially mad: when he got switched into Millsap while Aldridge got matched with their two-coloured haired PG on the block. Instead of feeding LA, he forced a shot on the lane against a guy a foot taller than him. That's the kind of shit you can't tolerate from your 35 year old Point Guard, tbh.

I've posted about the same play in this thread. LMA was guarding by Dennis and Parker opted for his own shot.

When Parker looks at Kawhi/LMA with a favorable matchups against a smaller guy, it seems like he thinks he's the guy with the 'true' mismatch against a bigman and opts to play for himself.

But this current version of Parker doesn't have that favorable matchup against good PF/C defenders...He isn't that fast to beat them anymore.

Parker should help Kawhi/LMA to exploit their favorable matchups instead of ignoring them in those situations.

[SpursIndonesia]

Parker was playing great untill the end where he started sucking. There's one play in particular that got me specially mad: when he got switched into Millsap while Aldridge got matched with their two-coloured haired PG on the block. Instead of feeding LA, he forced a shot on the lane against a guy a foot taller than him. That's the kind of shit you can't tolerate from your 35 year old Point Guard, tbh.

That's fair, i mean, it wasn't like everything was perfect outside TP's last few erroneous plays. If only Gasol gave just a weeny bit effort on the glass or protecting the paint, Pop wasn't so stubborn in not playing Dedmon, and the bench just shot a weeny better %, this game would have been ours.

[Brazil]

Wait, are you saying every time Enrique does a heat check it's coming from Pop? He makes one basket and 90% of the time he's shooting it again next time down the floor because he's 'feeling it'. That's not on Pop. :lol

Wait, are you saying suddenly Pop who is benching his PG whole 4th quarters, is not able to contain his player on this particular game... gtfoh tbh... Pop was fine with Parker being aggressive this game. He played solid and made mistakes during the stretch... end of the story, there is no hero ballin' stupid theory :lol