CFP Championship Game Thread - Clemson vs. Alabama II

[benefactor]

Clemson tbh

[DMX7]

I want Clemson to beat Alabama badly but I think it's a toss-up game.

[Fabbs]

I want Clemson to beat Alabama badly but I think it's a toss-up game.
Yep.
Were Lane Kiffin let go before seasons start, or even several weeks ago i would say Bama.
Now, don't like the long overdue booting of him but.....we shall see. He was large reason they lost to Ohio State imo.

Bamas run game going to try to keep Clemson O off the field.
Regardless, Bama db going to have to cover. Not sure how that is going to go.

[Thread]

I got a bad feeling here. Clemp is going to bust our hole wide open.

Should have left Sarkisian undisturbed upstairs and coached both sides of the ball here.

[Silver&Black]

What the fuck is that on top of Derrick Henry's head? Jesus H. Christ.

[Clipper Nation]

Goddamn, Clemson's defense is fucking stout.

[Clipper Nation]

Holy shit - penalties are actually being called on Bama? The check from Greg Sankey must not have cleared yet.

[Robz4000]

Yeah, before the whole OC debacle I thought Alabama would win easily. Now I think it'll be relatively close. Hoping for Clemson to destroy them regardless.

[Clipper Nation]

Imagine if Clemson had a real coach instead of an inbred hick. WTF was that playcall on 4th and 1?

[Robz4000]

:lol Clemson shitting down their leg now

[benefactor]

Well fuck this already

[Clipper Nation]

Looks like Clemson is Clemsoning again. Dabo might have literally lost this game already with that too-cute playcall on 4th down.

[Robz4000]

:lol Bamarefs

[Clipper Nation]

Guess Bama can just blatantly target with no consequences. They should just declare Bama the national champs in advance every season and let the rest of the country fight it out for second place.

[benefactor]

:lol ref watching the hold and not throwing a flag

[Robz4000]

:lol that was fucking Cum-esque

[benefactor]

Fucking Christ Clemson

[Clipper Nation]

Blowout incoming.

[Robz4000]

Yeah this is starting to look like the thrashing I was expecting.

[SpursforSix]

Blowout incoming.

I don't think so. Although Clemson needs to dig out from here.

[Kermit]

:lol ref watching the hold and not throwing a flag

They're Big12 refs alright.

[Clipper Nation]

Dabo and Clemson's offensive coordinators are complete pussies. Stop the conservative pussy shit and play like the underdogs. You're not going to out-talent Bama.

[Robz4000]

:lol anyone who thinks Watson has what it takes to be an NFL QB

[Robz4000]

Clemson starting to bend over

[Clipper Nation]

:lol anyone who thinks Watson has what it takes to be an NFL QB
Avante will still be sucking him off in the NFL Forum next year because he's black and mobile, even though he can't throw.

[Robz4000]

Avante will still be sucking him off in the NFL Forum next year because he's black and mobile, even though he can't throw.

Avante must really like the BBC I guess.

[benefactor]

Dabo with the "I've seen this movie before" look

[Robz4000]

Scarbrough could definitely be something special in the NFL, but the history of past Bama RBs in the NFL give me pause.

[RD2191]

CFB is such a fucking joke. There isn't a single team that can even challenge Alabama. Pathetic.

[Clipper Nation]

Can Saban just fucking retire already? I think he's proven his point now that he's a great coach. I'm sure Bama can give him some bullshit desk job so he can keep raking in the dough. He's ruining the sport at this point.

[benefactor]

Can Saban just fucking retire already? I think he's proven his point now that he's a great coach. I'm sure Bama can give him some bullshit desk job so he can keep raking in the dough. He's ruining the sport at this point.
Trying to pass Bryant tbh

[Robz4000]

Yep, gonna be at least another couple years of this. Hopefully some desperate NFL teams throws a blank check his way to draw him away soon.

[Robz4000]

Clemson actually showing a pulse :tu

[benefactor]

Good response

[Clipper Nation]

Clemson getting their pity points so they don't get shut out.

[Clipper Nation]

Blowout still on schedule.

[Robz4000]

What a punt

[LkrFan]

818645563738648581

:lol

[Robz4000]

:lmao fumblefaggots

[Fabbs]

smh Clemson you actually had some momentum going.
Strip/fumble recovery now it's Bama 1st and 10 at the 20 going in.

Sarkisian calling stoopid pharking plays tho.

[SpursforSix]

Good game

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Bama
:lol Getting owned by a white receiver... again

[SpursforSix]

Renfro to the Pats

[Robz4000]

Gotta admit, Clemson has really stepped it up. Not sure it's enough to beat Bama but it's a game at least.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

That should've been caught.

[Clipper Nation]

Handing off to Gallman = wasted down.

[SpursforSix]

That rugby punt is shit. Seems like they're conceding 20 yard every time.

[Clipper Nation]

Scarborough hurt - time for Bama's next walking petri dish of PEDs to start getting some carries.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

My goodness Derrick Henry has an ugly hairdo.

[SpursforSix]

Yeah...wtf with Derrick Henry?

[Clipper Nation]

Blowout still on schedule.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

3 Clemson defenders guarding one guy and Howard runs wide open.

[Clipper Nation]

Bama thugging it up per par.

[Fabbs]

psssh. Nice offensive holding by wideout #16 on Clemson.

[Clipper Nation]

Fuck a blowout... nice drive by Clemson.

[Fabbs]

psssh. Nice offensive holding by wideout #16 on Clemson.
Did it again on the touchdown.
ClemsonRef.

[Robz4000]

Dis is gettin gud

[Clipper Nation]

Did it again on the touchdown.
ClemsonRef.
:lol Are you for real? Bama has gotten away with their fair share of blatant holds - not to mention all the thuggish hits to the head they've been allowed to dish out.

[SpursforSix]

Wtf is with Clemsons kicking game.

[FkLA]

smh at this drive

[FkLA]

Wtf is with Clemsons kicking game.

That punter is fucking horrible.

[Clipper Nation]

Deshaun Watson is a better punter than their punter.

[SpursforSix]

Deshaun Watson is a better punter than their punter.

I keep wondering if Air Bud will come out in the 4th to pin them back.

[Clipper Nation]

Dabo wasting timeouts like he's Mike McCuck.

[Robz4000]

That fumble to start the second half is gonna be the difference of the game.

[Clipper Nation]

HOLY SHIT MIKE WILLIAMS!

[Robz4000]

:lol Bama melting down

[SpursforSix]

Great game

[Clipper Nation]

FUCK YOU BAMA!

[SpursforSix]

HOLY SHIT MIKE WILLIAMS!

That's a damn NFL player there

[Robz4000]

Close this shit out Clemson

[FkLA]

These gay ass pooch kicks. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Boulware is a monster!

[SpursforSix]

That Clemson D tbh

[RD2191]

:corn::corn:

[Robz4000]

:lol son of a bitch

[Clipper Nation]

Welp, Bama's going to fluke their way to the win. Puuuuke.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Clemson

[FkLA]

That nigga was in HS last year smh.

[Robz4000]

HOLY SHIT MIKE WILLIAMS!

[Fabbs]

About time. That QB run has been there many times this game for Bama.

The ole "scored too soon" in a game like this? :lol

[SpursforSix]

I have 0 confidence in the Clemson kicker.

[Robz4000]

:lmao wasting all that time

[Clipper Nation]

Dabo is a fucking inbred moron getting bailed out by his receivers.

[Robz4000]

Let's go!

[ace3g]

crazy game

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Bama mentally imploding.

[Robz4000]

:wow CLEMSON

[FkLA]

:wow

[ace3g]

Game blouses

[HI-FI]

Roll Tide :lol

[SpursforSix]

Maybe best game ever.

[Clipper Nation]

Fuck you, Bama!

[FkLA]

Dabo is a fucking inbred moron getting bailed out by his receivers.

He really does come off as an inbred idiot. Just a bunch of corny, rah rah BS from him. BYOG might be the faggiest thing I've ever heard a coach say, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

One of the best Nat'l Championship games I've ever seen.

[Kermit]

I'm still partial to the 2006 Rose Bowl, but this is definitely up there. Fucking incredible game.

[Will Hunting]

He really does come off as an inbred idiot. Just a bunch of corny, rah rah BS from him. BYOG might be the faggiest thing I've ever heard a coach say, tbh.
ESPN decided to lionize "BYOG" and "Clemson Strong! We were built for this!" even though both terms mean absolutely nothing :lol

[Fabbs]

Nice illegal pick.
GFYs.

[Clipper Nation]

ESPN decided to lionize "BYOG" and "Clemson Strong! We were built for this!" even though both terms mean absolutely nothing :lol
:lol Dabo's "coaching" is reminiscent of Emmitt Smith's commentary.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm still partial to the 2006 Rose Bowl, but this is definitely up there. Fucking incredible game.

06 Rose Bowl is still the best individual Performance in a championship game.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Dabo's "coaching" is reminiscent of Emmitt Smith's commentary.
It Doc Rivers were an inbred white hillbilly who coached football he'd be Dabo :lol

[Robz4000]

Did Saban refuse to go shake Dabo's hand?

[SpursforSix]

Awesome

[Will Hunting]

Did Saban refuse to go shake Dabo's hand?
Doubtful tbh, those two are butt buddies. Only time I've ever seen Sabah smile was when he and Dabo were getting interviewed together.

[tlongII]

Terrific game!

[Kermit]

I wonder if deep down in his black heart Saban regrets firing Lane Kiffin.

[Splits]

:lmao Thread

eat some shit, Dale, fake frontrunning Bama faggot

[Robz4000]

Doubtful tbh, those two are butt buddies. Only time I've ever seen Sabah smile was when he and Dabo were getting interviewed together.

He went straight to the locker room after the kneel-down though; a lot of Bama players were way behind him. Did they do it right after Clemson recovered the kick?

[FkLA]

:cry the difference in the game was love :cry

[Will Hunting]

So of all the people he could have thanked or things he could have said, Dabo thanks god :lmao

does that mean it was gods fault when he lost to Bama last year?

[Will Hunting]

:cry the difference in the game was love :cry
:cry BYOL bring your own love :cry

[Silver&Black]

I wonder if deep down in his black heart Saban regrets firing Lane Kiffin.

I hope the media fucking hammers him in the press conference (or in the next few days).

One of the dumbest decisions in coaching history to fire/replace your OC the week before the Nat'l Championship. Just simply out of spite.

[Clipper Nation]

It Doc Rivers were an inbred white hillbilly who coached football he'd be Dabo :lol
Nah, Dabo was only dragged kicking and screaming to a championship by the second-most stacked team in his sport, not the most stacked team like Doc was.

[Silver&Black]

:lmao Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320)

eat some shit, Dale, fake frontrunning Bama faggot

:wow Baylor Men's basketball #1 in the country

[FkLA]

:cry BYOL bring your own love :cry

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Nah, Dabo was only dragged kicking and screaming to a championship by the second-most stacked team in his sport, not the most stacked team like Doc was.
Well that's splitting hairs :lol, the thing they have in common is that they're better at yelling battle cries than they are at coaching.

[Clipper Nation]

I wonder if deep down in his black heart Saban regrets firing Lane Kiffin.
Kiffin needs to do a Rappin' Shaq video after this one.

"Uhh, check it, you know how I be. This week Saban couldn't do without me."

[Will Hunting]

Does Dabo have anything to say other than "truly a blessing" and "love made the difference"

[Fabbs]

:cry the difference in the game was love :cry
Dabo: The Lord wanted us to do an illegal pick.

[Robz4000]

:lol so much stupid coming out of his mouth

[Fabbs]

I wonder if deep down in his black heart Saban regrets firing Lane Kiffin.
No way. But I'm sure he really regrets appointing Sarkisian.
Terrible play calling.

[Spurs9]

Will Saban be in the NFL next year?

[FkLA]

Seriously, CFB coaching might be the only profession where mumbling idiots can reach the mountaintop. Les Miles always struck me as a moron too.

[Clipper Nation]

Does Dabo have anything to say other than "truly a blessing" and "love made the difference"
I think at some point during his hour-long postgame sermon, he gave a shoutout to "all them thar people who couldn't be here 'cuz tickets was too much." Other than that, it was nothing but straight-up Jesus and God shit.

:lol His halftime speeches must sound like Spurtech09's posts in the NFL forum. "Jesus is coming!!! The resurrection is here!!!!!"

[Will Hunting]

Seriously, CFB coaching might be the only profession where mumbling idiots can reach the mountaintop. Les Miles always struck me as a moron too.

Well running a college football team is pretty similar to running a cotton plantation so you probably just need similar motivational tactics :lol

[oh crap]

crazy fucking game

[FkLA]

:lol His halftime speeches must sound like Spurtech09's posts in the NFL forum. "Jesus is coming!!! The resurrection is here!!!!!"

Reporter: Dabo, what did you do at halftime?

Dabo: I told them love would make the difference. I told them to let the light inside of them shine brighter than the light on them.

[Thread]

:lmao Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320)

eat some shit, Dale, fake frontrunning Bama faggot

No problem. I take my shit. We got beat. Lost our control in all phases of the game tonite. We didn't earn it.

[Thread]

We tackled like motherfuckers for 14 games. Then couldn't stick shit tonite. Tackled like everyone else.

[benefactor]

I can't believe I fucking fell asleep.

:lol old man problems

[Splits]

No problem. I take my shit. We got beat. Lost our control in all phases of the game tonite. We didn't earn it.

:lmao "we"

You've been a Bama fan for like 6 years. Probably never even been to that shithole Tuscoloser :lmao

[Splits]

:wow Baylor Men's basketball #1 in the country

meh. nothing compared to a 5-win bowl-eligible team taking down #4 in the nation and then dominating Miami-OH in the St. Pete bowl. Those are real accomplishments.

[Avante]

The running black QB is what it takes to win the National Championship.

[Thread]

:lmao "we"

You've been a Bama fan for like 6 years. Probably never even been to that shithole Tuscoloser :lmao

I never defend my fandom. That's my religion.

[Silver&Black]

meh. nothing compared to a 5-win bowl-eligible team taking down #4 in the nation and then dominating Miami-OH in the St. Pete bowl. Those are real accomplishments.

Don't forget the biggest ass whipping in Egg Bowl history.

The loss to South Alabama negates all that though...:depressed

[Pelicans78]

The running black QB is what it takes to win the National Championship.

You know Watson passed for over 400 yards? And Bama had no passing game whatsoever. Difference in the ball game. Moron.

[Pelicans78]

Don't forget the biggest ass whipping in Egg Bowl history.

The loss to South Alabama negates all that though...:depressed

Never forget.

[Silver&Black]

Never forget.

Don't get too cocky now 78. Remember...I was at the game Mississippi St. lost to fucking Maine.

Your South Alabama mind tricks won't work on me.

[benefactor]

The running black QB is what it takes to win the National Championship.
Winston won one too. How's that working out for him at the next level?

[Clipper Nation]

The running black QB is what it takes to win the National Championship.
Bama lost to Clemson this year with a running black QB. They beat Clemson last year with a pocket-passing white QB.

[unleashbaynes]

Me when Clemson won: :cheer

Me when dabo started talking: :bang

[ColinB]

Classic game.

[MultiTroll]

Points for honesty?

“We knew that they were going to play cover zero when we were inside the 5,” Watson told ESPN’s Tom Rinaldi. “And all we needed was a good pick by TE (Jordan Leggett). And TE picked ’em and (Hunter) Renfrow got inside the end zone, and I just threw the ball where we could make sure he caught it. And that’s what he did.

[Clipper Nation]

Anyone else sick of hearing the "pick play" excuse from Bammers for the final touchdown? Watching the play again, it looks to me like Marlon Humphrey shoved Artavis Scott to the ground, forcing Tony Brown to go around them and preventing him from getting to Hunter Renfrow in time. It sounds like Clemson was trying to run a pick play there, but the real story was Bama thugging it up as usual and their lack of discipline biting them in the ass.

Bama fans and players whining about refs is hysterical, BTW. They should have had multiple targeting penalties, they got away with blatant holds all night, and Bamaref even made sure to give their defense a breather at critical moments by reviewing obvious plays that were never going to be overturned. The amount of ref help Bama gets, on top of PEDs and buying recruits, is outrageous.

[MultiTroll]

We tackled like motherfuckers for 14 games. Then couldn't stick shit tonite. Tackled like everyone else.
The final drive not once but twice Bama had Clemson tackled behind the line of scrimmage for big losses. Let em slip away.
Dale i agree with you.

[Ghazi]

we still stacked

[MultiTroll]

Anyone else sick of hearing the "pick play" excuse from Bammers for the final touchdown? Watching the play again,
:lol Perfect timing post.
See Deshaun calling it a "pick".
Bama lost in many other ways. But it was a pick, pure and simple.
I don't want a National Championship being decided by baby faced white phuck being allowed to prance into the endzone.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Perfect timing post.
See Deshaun calling it a "pick".
Bama lost in many other ways. But it was a pick, pure and simple.
I don't want a National Championship being decided by baby faced white phuck being allowed to prance into the endzone.
I'm not arguing that Clemson wasn't intending to run a pick play there; by all accounts, they were. I'm talking about the actual results of the play. Go back and watch the play. You'll see Humphrey initiating the contact with Scott by pulling him to the ground. You'll see Scott unable to even make contact with Tony Brown because Humphrey had shoved him to the ground. And you'll see Brown hopelessly running around Humphrey and Scott, a step too slow to get to Renfrow in time to make a play. Good no-call by the refs. Blame Marlon Humphrey for allowing said "baby-faced white phuck" to prance into the end zone, since he took his own teammate out of the play.

[Clipper Nation]

818693006010286080

No pick. No call. End of story.

[MultiTroll]

I'm not arguing that Clemson wasn't intending to run a pick play there; by all accounts, they were. I'm talking about the actual results of the play. Go back and watch the play. You'll see Humphrey initiating the contact with Scott by pulling him to the ground. You'll see Scott unable to even make contact with Tony Brown because Humphrey had shoved him to the ground. And you'll see Brown hopelessly running around Humphrey and Scott, a step too slow to get to Renfrow in time to make a play. Good no-call by the refs. Blame Marlon Humphrey for allowing said "baby-faced white phuck" to prance into the end zone, since he took his own teammate out of the play.
Put down the crack pipe.
I see Humphries retreating backwords and Brown moving forward to initiate contact. Look at the feet of both Tony Brown and Humpries. "Initiating contact by Humpries?" :lmao Yes once he realizes he is being picked Humpries and Brown lock arms simultaneously and Humphries pulls him down.

It's a pick.

[MultiTroll]

Assistant coach Jay Harbaugh son of Michigan coach who is well known butthurt hater of Saban or the actual words of Clemson QB Deshaun Watson?
I wonder who's take on the play we should value more? :lmao

“We knew that they were going to play cover zero when we were inside the 5,” Watson told ESPN’s Tom Rinaldi. “And all we needed was a good pick by TE (Jordan Leggett). And TE picked ’em and (Hunter) Renfrow got inside the end zone, and I just threw the ball where we could make sure he caught it. And that’s what he did.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/clemson-qb-deshaun-watson-says-tigers-won-national-championship-pick-play

[Clipper Nation]

Just watched the play again and it still looks to me like Humphrey puts his arms around Scott before Scott can even initiate anything. At most, you could say it was a bang-bang play that wasn't conclusive enough for the ref to call.

Come to think of it, even if there was a "pick," it still would have been legal. You're allowed to set a pick on the defender who's covering you, as Scott was intending to do. Where it becomes illegal is when you set a pick on a DB who isn't covering you in order to free up a teammate. But that's not what happened on that play. Renfrow was wide open because Humphrey yanked Scott to the ground and forced Brown to go around them, not because anyone made contact with Brown (which they didn't).

[The Gemini Method]

Pretty exciting game. I still think the 05 Rose Bowl was more exciting, but for these past 2 CFP title games, it has bee worth the watch. I caught it at a bar where there seemed to be a plethora of Bama fans. There was some heckling between them and the lone Clemson couple. I asked the Clemson fans if they were from the area and they said they were both born in Charleston, S.C. and made their way west for work. I then asked a Bama fan there and he said he was born in San Antonio but was stationed in Georgia. Interesting mix to say the least. I hope next year USC represents.

[Clipper Nation]

A lot of media folks called it a pick. Even Watson, interviewed on the field right after the game, called it a pick. And, of course, pick plays are illegal. They should result in offensive pass interference.

But this one wasn't a pick. It was a legal rub route. Painful as it is for Alabama fans, the officials got it right. Why?

Because the contact came between a receiver and the cornerback who was covering him. That isn't a pick. A pick is when one receiver picks off a defensive back who is covering a different player. The phrase "pick play" comes from basketball. In basketball, players set a pick, which is legal, obviously, if the player setting the pick isn't moving at time of contact. But basketball players don't pick guys who are covering them. They pick players who are covering a teammate, which allows that teammate to run free.

So back to the game-deciding play. Renfrow was in the slot to the right, and Artavis Scott was lined up to his right. Alabama was in man coverage. Tony Brown was covering Renfrow, and Marlon Humphrey was on Scott. When the ball was snapped, Watson rolled right. Scott, the receiver out wide, released inside, or to his left. Humphrey tried to cut him off, pressed him, trying to not allow the inside release. The two collided and Scott fell to the ground. If Renfrow had not been lined up on the same side, nobody would have called it a pick. Just a collision between a receiver and the cornerback who was covering him.

But Renfrow was in the slot, running an out route. And because he anticipated the collision – or rub route – he slid underneath it, as he is supposed to do. Brown had no choice but to go around the collision, allowing Renfrow to slide to the right front corner of the end zone wide open and Watson found him for the easy score.

Now, was the offensive team, in this case Clemson, trying to cause commotion? Absolutely. Is the play designed to have Scott and Humphrey collide, forming a barrier of sorts? Definitely. And if the play is executed properly, the inside receiver slips under it – actually runs in front of the two colliding players – and the defensive back covering him must run behind the play, or over the top. He can chase him to the inside, but he still would have to go around the collision, making him even further behind. The result is the receiver usually is wide open.

Clemson executed it to perfection. It was a rub route that caused a collision that the defensive player couldn't get around, yet at no time did an offensive player pick off a defender covering someone else.

Many times, officials get confused and call a pick play in this instance, even though they shouldn't. Credit this crew for knowing the rules – even if many fans and media don't – and keeping their flags in their pockets.

http://gridironnow.com/hunter-renfrow-game-winning-td-rub-route/

[Clipper Nation]

Bottom line: rub routes are legal, they're in every team's playbook and they're a staple in goal-line situations in both college and the NFL. Every coach bitches up a storm when it's done to them, but pretty much every coach runs these same types of plays whenever they get the opportunity. Clemson ran a legal play and executed it almost flawlessly.

[DMX7]

I turned the game off because I thought the game was over...

[Thread]

^ Bend over. You'll think the fuckin' game was over...

[Thread]

Here's what I lodged on the ESPN Boards:::"Sometimes you have to give. Saban could not do that and instead made an example of Kiffin afterall. He, no (we) found out the most cruel way that you can't always put yourself above all others. Not every single time. There was no need to throw shade on Kiffin as he stood in his own shaft of sunlight in his new job. He had already paid you back, no (us) back for taking him off the scrap heap of life where (they'd) left him to die. I so hope Saban will learn this lesson and be it so fortunate that Sarkisian stands in a similar shaft of light you'll remember this night turned to morning."

[Avante]

What a mobile QB can do to the big guys is what we saw last night. He wore them out.

Funny how the real star was a little white receiver.

[MultiTroll]

Here is what a mobile QB can do for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNUkUCknT90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGe65YgzV_k

[DMX7]

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