China slams Rex Tillerson

[hater]

:lmao poor Rex. Love him but boy did he let his tongue slip by promising to stop China from accessing the islands in the S China sea :lol

China just said if he tries that its war and all nuclear options are on the table

Shit is about to get real :wow

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1028568.shtml


Nominee for US secretary of state Rex Tillerson uttered astonishing statements during his confirmation hearing with the Senate on Wednesday. He likened China's island-building in the South China Sea to "Russia's taking of Crimea," and said the new US government would send China a clear signal that "first the island building stops, and second your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed."

Due to his intimate relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Tillerson is the most controversial candidate among President-elect Donald Trump's nominees for his cabinet and is considered the one most likely to be vetoed by the Senate.

It is suspected that he merely wanted to curry favor from senators and increase his chances of being confirmed by intentionally showing a tough stance toward China.

Tillerson did not give details of how he would achieve his self-proclaimed goals. Nonetheless, he also mentioned that Chinese and American economic interests are deeply intertwined and that "China has been a valuable ally in curtailing elements of radical Islam." He noted that "We should not let disagreements over other issues exclude areas for productive partnership."

It is not clear which point, among the many he made, he will prioritize. But it is worth looking at his remarks that China should not be allowed access to the islands, since this is the most radical statement from the US side so far.

China has enough determination and strength to make sure that his rabble rousing will not succeed. Unless Washington plans to wage a large-scale war in the South China Sea, any other approaches to prevent Chinese access to the islands will be foolish.

The US has no absolute power to dominate the South China Sea. Tillerson had better bone up on nuclear power strategies if he wants to force a big nuclear power to withdraw from its own territories. Probably he just has oil prices and currency rates in his mind as former ExxonMobil CEO.

[Winehole23]

Shit is about to get real :wowyou keep saying this -- three or four times in the past half-year, counting casually.

what do you mean?

[hater]

you keep saying this -- three or four times in the past half-year, counting casually.

what do you mean?

You wil probably find out when you are posting your threads on a cave wall :lol

[SnakeBoy]

China just said if he tries that its war and all nuclear options are on the table

They didn't mention nuclear war, at least it's not quoted in any legit news articles. They should have seeing as it's the only chance they have in a war with the US.

[Winehole23]

You wil probably find out when you are posting your threads on a cave wall :lolanother WWIII prediction -- and you said Trump would keep us out of it.

[hater]

They didn't mention nuclear war, at least it's not quoted in any legit news articles. They should have seeing as it's the only chance they have in a war with the US.

They said you cannot bully a major "nuclear" power. Not sure how much clearer they could have been imo

[hater]

another WWIII prediction -- and you said Trump would keep us out of it.

I said Trump saved us from immediate war. But the MIC + Intelligence agencies are formidabble.

They want ensured world domination for the next 100 years and that means dismantling Russia + China the last 2 obstacles towards thats.

[SnakeBoy]

They said you cannot bully a major "nuclear" power. Not sure how much clearer they could have been imo

Ah okay I see, you're taking the CT op ed as the official statement of the Chinese govt.

The CT op ed also stated Tillerson's harsh words are just coaxing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [for confirmation] which would suggest that shit isn't about to get real.

I doubt our defcon level has changed.

[boutons_deux]

"CT op ed as the official statement of the Chinese govt."

... it is, just like Moscow Times is Putin's word.

[hater]

Ah okay I see, you're taking the CT op ed as the official statement of the Chinese govt.

The CT op ed also stated Tillerson's harsh words are just coaxing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [for confirmation] which would suggest that shit isn't about to get real.

I doubt our defcon level has changed.

Well that chinese media source is a known mouthpiece of the govmt.

Rex was pretty much slammed by china, so you think he was just BSing to the senate?

[in2deep]

"CT op ed as the official statement of the Chinese govt."

... it is, just like Moscow Times is Putin's word.






or just like Washington Post, NYT are Washingtons's words

[SnakeBoy]

Well that chinese media source is a known mouthpiece of the govmt.

Rex was pretty much slammed by china, so you think he was just BSing to the senate?

Doesn't matter what I think. If CT is the mouthpiece of the chinese govt then it's what they think so shit isn't about to get real.

[clambake]

i wouldn't be too worried.

when the "real" shit got real, don ran to the secret service.

ran

[in2deep]

Doesn't matter what I think. If CT is the mouthpiece of the chinese govt then it's what they think so shit isn't about to get real.

It is if Rex follows on his promise tbqh

[SnakeBoy]

China slams Rex Tillerson, if you brock us, plepel fol full scale wall

It's Lex Tirrelson

[Thread]

CNN was thrilled yesterday afternoon when the four Trump guys went against the Trump grain in the hearings. LMAO. Didn't last long as they soon smelled a rat and floated the belief that the 4 were playing possum.

You Goddamn rights.

[pgardn]

Have you guys not already been acquainted with hater...

He thinks the world is ending every other day like some religious nut.

When China said they were sending vessels to the ME to stop ISIS in Syria... shits getting real. They fckn wanted absolutely nothing to do with that mess.

[pgardn]

CNN was thrilled yesterday afternoon when the four Trump guys went against the Trump grain in the hearings. LMAO. Didn't last long as they soon smelled a rat and floated the belief that the 4 were playing possum.

You Goddamn rights.

Yes its it's cool when the president elect changes his mind on twitter every few days.

Wall..

Yes
No
Yes
No
A little one
Nah more border patrol
no a wall
yes

What was the question...

Russia was not in anyway involved with hacking
Ok they were.
Well we don't know for sure...

Solid figure so far.

[hater]

A lot of shit got real since my original thread announcing Russias entry into the Syria theatre Einstein.

Russia saved Assads ass, liberated Syria and kicked the living shit out of Obamas army of jihadists. Just as I predicted.

Thats a lot of real shit. Shit GOT REAL.

[pgardn]

A lot of shit got real since my original thread announcing Russias entry into the Syria theatre Einstein.

Russia saved Assads ass, liberated Syria and kicked the living shit out of Obamas army of jihadists. Just as I predicted.

Thats a lot of real shit. Shit GOT REAL.

Syria is not liberated.
Wtf are you reading, that country still is swarming with all sorts of groups. The larger cities are a complete rubble mess now.
Control of rubble...
Even if Assad was in control of the entire country, it would not be liberated as a butcher would be in control.

Understand this:
As long as Iran has a say in that country, which it does, Assad is under two thumbs. Iran has groups on the ground. Russia has the air. Now add Turkey. That's 3 thumbs. You think this is some sort of liberation? You got 3 different countries gonna run your shit.

You have no clue as usual.

You need to apply for some sort of Evangelical certification and run your own church.
Scream about WWIII and shit getting real. You make money off of Cosmo and Mouse types. Great gig.

[DMC]

They said you cannot bully a major "nuclear" power. Not sure how much clearer they could have been imo

Why do you think China would commit suicide over something as trite? You're a chicken little, settle down. The schtick isn't working.

[DMC]

Yes its it's cool when the president elect changes his mind on twitter every few days.

Wall..

Yes
No
Yes
No
A little one
Nah more border patrol
no a wall
yes

What was the question...

Russia was not in anyway involved with hacking
Ok they were.
Well we don't know for sure...

Solid figure so far.

For gay marriage
Against gay marriage
For NAFTA
Against NAFTA
Moderate
Progressive

sound familiar?

[Th'Pusher]

For gay marriage
Against gay marriage
For NAFTA
Against NAFTA
Moderate
Progressive

sound familiar?

Not even remotely comparable.

[in2deep]

Syria is not liberated.
Wtf are you reading, that country still is swarming with all sorts of groups. The larger cities are a complete rubble mess now.
Control of rubble...
Even if Assad was in control of the entire country, it would not be liberated as a butcher would be in control.
.

um. Assad and Damascus was weeks from falling to jihad if not for Russia. That's a fact

[hater]

Why do you think China would commit suicide over something as trite? You're a chicken little, settle down. The schtick isn't working.

trite? you think the South China Sea is trite to China? :lmao

go read a book for a change

[DMC]

Not even remotely comparable.

Right because she lost the election.

[DMC]

trite? you think the South China Sea is trite to China? :lmao

go read a book for a change

You think it's about the South China Sea? :lol

They are just parroting what Trump said about nuclear options. Oh noes! Sabre rattling sends Hater spelunking! Quick, call Alex Jones and get you a year supply of food and water, the nuclear fallout will only last a short while.

[hater]

You think it's about the South China Sea? :lol

They are just parroting what Trump said about nuclear options. Oh noes! Sabre rattling sends Hater spelunking! Quick, call Alex Jones and get you a year supply of food and water, the nuclear fallout will only last a short while.

:lol what an idiot

If US stops Chinese access to the South China Sea Islands it's war. plain and simple

don't be so stupid

[DMC]

:lol what an idiot

If US stops Chinese access to the South China Sea Islands it's war. plain and simple

don't be so stupid

lol if the US can "stop China" how much war can they wage?

[Winehole23]

I said Trump saved us from immediate war. But the MIC + Intelligence agencies are formidabble.

They want ensured world domination for the next 100 years and that means dismantling Russia + China the last 2 obstacles towards thats.you sound like boutons

[SnakeBoy]

Even if Assad was in control of the entire country, it would not be liberated as a butcher would be in control.

Understand this:
As long as Iran has a say in that country, which it does, Assad is under two thumbs. Iran has groups on the ground. Russia has the air. Now add Turkey. That's 3 thumbs. You think this is some sort of liberation? You got 3 different countries gonna run your shit.


All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

[pgardn]

For gay marriage
Against gay marriage
For NAFTA
Against NAFTA
Moderate
Progressive

sound familiar?

In a 24 hr period?

[hater]

All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

Bingo. As another poster said Syria was weeks or days from being toppled by ISIS and Al Qaeda. Russia turned the tide as I predicted. And of course shit got real :lol

[pgardn]

um. Assad and Damascus was weeks from falling to jihad if not for Russia. That's a fact

Yes and so....
this means the people of Syria are now liberated?

I don't think so. They don't even have homes left in Aleppo.

[hater]

ISIS defeated, Russian jetfighter shot down, Russian airliner bombed, Turkish president almost killed, Russian ambassador killed, Obama and Saudi army of jihadists buttfucked, Hitlery defeated :lol, Trump elected

Yeah shit didnt get real :rolleyes

[pgardn]

All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

Assad can only bring about stable butchery in part of Syria. And stable butchery in the ME is very tenuous, even without interference from the West. Stable butchery also helps in the genesis of new types of movements and young disillusioned men IMO. Egypt is a milder example now.It is however nice that controlled portions of Syria and Egypt would be less likely to become training grounds.

So should we be aiding in Iraq now trying to impose stability? As an aside...

[pgardn]

ISIS defeated, Russian jetfighter shot down, Russian airliner bombed, Turkish president almost killed, Russian ambassador killed, Obama and Saudi army of jihadists buttfucked, Hitlery defeated :lol, Trump elected

Yeah shit didnt get real :rolleyes

What about CIVILIANS dead in Syria? Shit getting real to you is ambassadors getting killed.

ISIS is not yet defeated. And the US is responsible for brining ISIS to their knees, not Russia you clueless bastard. It's not even remotely close.
So where is China in the ME since your predictions got all excited when they sent a boat? You love head lines.

Think about families that just want to be left alone. You act as some sort of humanitarian looking for super heros outside of the US. Like Russia even cares when they bomb. Like Assad even worries about the cost of people outside the cost of barrel bombs and gas.

[in2deep]

What about CIVILIANS dead in Syria? Shit getting real to you is ambassadors getting killed.

ISIS is not yet defeated. And the US is responsible for brining ISIS to their knees, not Russia you clueless bastard. It's not even remotely close.
So where is China in the ME since your predictions got all excited when they sent a boat? You love head lines.

Think about families that just want to be left alone. You act as some sort of humanitarian looking for super heros outside of the US. Like Russia even cares when they bomb. Like Assad even worries about the cost of people outside the cost of barrel bombs and gas.

Um hundreds of thousands of civilians died in the Iraq war, lybia had lots of civilian deaths

im sure Obama, Hillary and Bush were very concerned at this :rolleyes

and I hear about 1 in 2 deaths in Mosul are civilians. Its a war in cities. Civilians are dying wether by US or Russian bombs equally

[CosmicCowboy]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.

[DMC]

In a 24 hr period?

That matters? Trump is also male, is that also an exemption? Politicians lie, WOW. Their 1st order of business is to entrench themselves and their friends as deeply into the office as possible to retain power. WOW. All these revelations now? Who knew?

[in2deep]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.


Problem is we never played nice. Organizing coups, installing puppets and theatening war if they dont fall in line is everything but nice. We been doing that since the 50s

[ElNono]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.

Exactly. The US was always better served to cordon off the area and let them go at it themselves. It's difficult though, because you have Turkey, Russia, China, etc all hopping in and trying to get their hands on the oil, but with the US having it's newlyfound oil bonanza, it makes little sense to get involved. The biggest issue, IMO, is Israel trying to drag out asses in there. This is an area where our relationship with Israel gets tiresome.

[pgardn]

That matters? Trump is also male, is that also an exemption? Politicians lie, WOW. Their 1st order of business is to entrench themselves and their friends as deeply into the office as possible to retain power. WOW. All these revelations now? Who knew?

Fuck yes it matters.

[pgardn]

Um hundreds of thousands of civilians died in the Iraq war, lybia had lots of civilian deaths

im sure Obama, Hillary and Bush were very concerned at this :rolleyes

and I hear about 1 in 2 deaths in Mosul are civilians. Its a war in cities. Civilians are dying wether by US or Russian bombs equally

Total bullshit.
Equally...

And where D id I say US intervention had not led to people dying? Where?

We Fd up big time under Bush when he and Cheney were told they would need over 300,000 troops to help the country after we had destroyed its institutions and some infrastructure for civilians. They decided with a number that was absolutely ridiculous. We might have had to eventually split the country and oil revenues among the different factions which would have been super costly. It might have worked, it might not have, we will never know because it was done half assed.

And yes the US has stopped conflicts and brought about democracy. But it has been costly. The breakdown of Yugoslavia is an example with people highly divided region brought into a much better situation. It was basically accomplished by bombing Serb militias into submission.

[pgardn]

Fuck yes it matters.

It's about an abnormally impulsive personality for this type of business. We will see if it can be useful.

[DMC]

Fuck yes it matters.

So flip flopping on your position only matters if you do it in a 24 hour period, as if there was no 24 hour period in which Hillary's position actually changed.

The problem you have is that you are so accustomed to folks who have been groomed and their output vetted and homogenized to suit your palate. You're not ready for the real thoughts of a person, but yet you want change. People like you are why it's so hard for a real person to ever become POTUS.

[DMC]

Total bullshit.
Equally...

And where D id I say US intervention had not led to people dying? Where?

We Fd up big time under Bush when he and Cheney were told they would need over 300,000 troops to help the country after we had destroyed its institutions and some infrastructure for civilians. They decided with a number that was absolutely ridiculous. We might have had to eventually split the country and oil revenues among the different factions which would have been super costly. It might have worked, it might not have, we will never know because it was done half assed.

And yes the US has stopped conflicts and brought about democracy. But it has been costly. The breakdown of Yugoslavia is an example with people highly divided region brought into a much better situation. It was basically accomplished by bombing Serb militias into submission.
Yeah, setting a deadline for withdrawal and advertising when you're pulling out had no basis on the insurgence that required reinsertion. Expecting non-military minds to choose military objectives over short term political gain is a futile endeavor but the liberal assholes seem afflicted with that mentality.

[pgardn]

Yeah, setting a deadline for withdrawal and advertising when you're pulling out had no basis on the insurgence that required reinsertion. Expecting non-military minds to choose military objectives over short term political gain is a futile endeavor but the liberal assholes seem afflicted with that mentality.

Again.

Doing things half assed.

OVER 300,000 troops needed. We did not send half. It started as an F up. Get that straight.

[pgardn]

So flip flopping on your position only matters if you do it in a 24 hour period, as if there was no 24 hour period in which Hillary's position actually changed.

The problem you have is that you are so accustomed to folks who have been groomed and their output vetted and homogenized to suit your palate. You're not ready for the real thoughts of a person, but yet you want change. People like you are why it's so hard for a real person to ever become POTUS.

Oh she got on her phone and tweeted it.Hell yes it matters, don't be a clown. And don't be foolish. Hillary has her own huge problems. They just happen to be different than Donald. The problem with people like you is making idiotic comparisons.

A real person. Wtf is a real person? Donald is a REAL person?
Holy fuck...

[pgardn]

This is part of why Trump won.

This is what drives me totally nuts about liberals. They just don't get the lessons just bitch slapped on them. This kind of shit exists in Universities and elsewhere and its corrosive stupidity.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/overwrought-political-correctness-helped-trump-win-a-1125725.html

And it takes a German to explain it well... This and the total inability of democrats not understanding the Bernie factor that Trump understood very well.

[DMC]

Again.

Doing things half assed.

OVER 300,000 troops needed. We did not send half. It started as an F up. Get that straight.
So fewer troops than needed made it ok to withdraw.

[DMC]

Oh she got on her phone and tweeted it.Hell yes it matters, don't be a clown. And don't be foolish. Hillary has her own huge problems. They just happen to be different than Donald. The problem with people like you is making idiotic comparisons.

A real person. Wtf is a real person? Donald is a REAL person?
Holy fuck...

Saying it in a live debate with millions watching makes it better? She was brought to task about her flip flopping just to get votes during a fucking debate.

Real person: not a career politician

The problem with people like you is that you think because you dabble in something it makes you educated.

[DMC]

This is part of why Trump won.

This is what drives me totally nuts about liberals. They just don't get the lessons just bitch slapped on them. This kind of shit exists in Universities and elsewhere and its corrosive stupidity.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/overwrought-political-correctness-helped-trump-win-a-1125725.html

And it takes a German to explain it well... This and the total inability of democrats not understanding the Bernie factor that Trump understood very well.

And they'd have no teeth if not for the other half of the dem party that accepts their ground gained but laments their transgressions toward any hope of regaining a foothold in congress. You're either with them or against them. You seem to be lost in the ether between liberal SJW and half-assed pseudo republicrat.

[Th'Pusher]

Real person: not a career politician.

So Obama was a "real person" when elected president? Nobody in their right mind would call 2 terms in the Illinois state senate and 1 terms as a US senator a career politician.

[DMC]

So Obama was a "real person" when elected president? Nobody in their right mind would call 2 terms in the Illinois state senate and 1 terms as a US senator a career politician.
He was a 12 year politician prior to running for office. That was his current career. That was as long as he had a job as a professor. So yeah, he's a career politician. Donald Trump never held public office. Obama had 3 terms in the Illinois state senate. Get your facts straight, sloppy joe. Until you clean it up I'm not going to spar with you, tard.

But Donald isn't a real person either however his election might help create a path for a real person since it's obvious extensive grooming and background cleansing isn't necessarily required to get elected.

[pgardn]

So fewer troops than needed made it ok to withdraw.

You said that. Don't play games.

More troops to begin with to maintain institutions.
We had a general basically get fired because he wanted over 300,000
He had thought about the fact that the Iraqis would not be wonderful hosts.
Something that totally escaped Rumsfeld and Cheney.

[Th'Pusher]

He was a 12 year politician prior to running for office. That was his current career. That was as long as he had a job as a professor. So yeah, he's a career politician. Donald Trump never held public office. Obama had 3 terms in the Illinois state senate. Get your facts straight, sloppy joe. Until you clean it up I'm not going to spar with you, tard.

Right. In 2008, the word was Barry didn't have enough experience to be POTUS. But yeah, he was a career politician :rolleyes

spar :lol

you haven't won a round yet

:lol no forced wealth transfer
:lol the profit motive drives innovation in pharmaceuticals
:lol CHL is unconstitutional

[pgardn]

Saying it in a live debate with millions watching makes it better? She was brought to task about her flip flopping just to get votes during a fucking debate.

Real person: not a career politician

The problem with people like you is that you think because you dabble in something it makes you educated.

Then wtf are you posting here for?
So you don't dabble? You have your PHD in military tactics and Politics, good for you.

Real people...

[DMC]

Right. In 2008, the word was Barry didn't have enough experience to be POTUS. But yeah, he was a career politician :rolleyes

spar :lol

you haven't won a round yet

:lol no forced wealth transfer
:lol the profit motive drives innovation in pharmaceuticals
:lol CHL is unconstitutional

You figured out how many terms Obama served in the Illinois senate yet?

:lol losing to a reality TV show star

[DMC]

Then wtf are you posting here for?
So you don't dabble? You have your PHD in military tactics and Politics, good for you.

Real people...

Armchair generals abound! Start a blog or better yet, do a podcast if you can string a sentence together without stumbling over your ego.

[pgardn]

Armchair generals abound! Start a blog or better yet, do a podcast if you can string a sentence together without stumbling over your ego.

Look in the mirror Mr. Early Withdrawal

And they are my opinions. If you don't like it ignore is useful.

[DMC]

You said that. Don't play games.

More troops to begin with to maintain institutions.
We had a general basically get fired because he wanted over 300,000
He had thought about the fact that the Iraqis would not be wonderful hosts.
Something that totally escaped Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Not enough troops! (gets to Baghdad in a week on foot).

In comes Obama... "time to leave, hey neighbors, we're pulling out, come kill these idiots we trained and oh, here's 400 million for coke money".

[DMC]

Look in the mirror Mr. Early Withdrawl.

Obama ran on the platform of setting a deadline for withdrawal.

[pgardn]

Obama ran on the platform of setting a deadline for withdrawal.

So the fuck what?
What did I post about Obama?

[DMC]

So the fuck what?
What did I post about Obama?

You act like GWB admin was the reason for the long, drawn out Iraq theater but Obama pulled troops too early. You don't need more troops if everyone is sitting around waiting to get bombed.

Same with the stan, you got OBL and he wasn't even there, now what? Stay and regulate it? Not going to happen yet there we are, still killing Taliban. Pretty sure we've killed more than existed prior to the invasion, and how many 2nd in command types have we killed? It used to be one a day. It's not interesting now so now it's all about whatever covert objective we were really there for, certainly not chasing terrorists.

[pgardn]

Not enough troops! (gets to Baghdad in a week on foot).

In comes Obama... "time to leave, hey neighbors, we're pulling out, come kill these idiots we trained and oh, here's 400 million for coke money".

They could not secure weapon caches all over the country. There was no lawful presence in many cities. Just go back and read about the aftermath in the first place. It was done half assed because it could not sell full ahead.

Its not about just getting to Baghdad. Jesus, you are older than I am and you don't even read or understand.

I dont buy your apparent thinking that all it required is not pulling out. Do it overwhelmingly in the first place. Hell, it might not even have worked then.
Yes. My opinion. We are all arm chair QBs.

[Th'Pusher]

You figured out how many terms Obama served in the Illinois senate yet?

:lol losing to a reality TV show star

He didn't complete his third term.

AFAIK Obama was never challenged by a reality tv star. Was that when he was running for the Illinois state senate?

[Th'Pusher]

Obama ran on the platform of setting a deadline for withdrawal.

And you voted for that platform. :lol

[DMC]

And you voted for that platform. :lol

Is this your bad faith retort? What's your point, that I am somehow at fault?

[DMC]

He didn't complete his third term.

AFAIK Obama was never challenged by a reality tv star. Was that when he was running for the Illinois state senate?

Doesn't matter, he still served 3 terms else all the records are lying.

Your candidate was beaten by a reality TV star.

[Th'Pusher]

Is this your bad faith retort? What's your point, that I am somehow at fault?

Of course you're not at fault. But, you voted for a candidate that campaigned on setting a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. He won and did exactly that. Now you're whining about it like a pussy. Hindsight's 20/20.

[Th'Pusher]

Your candidate was beaten by a reality TV star.

no he wasn't.

[Thread]

Your candidate was beaten by a reality TV star.

Damn if I don't look at the once empty spot at my side and D is again present & accounted for. The tears on my pillow bespeaked the pain that had been in my heart.

CHARGE!!!!!!!!!

[DMC]

no he wasn't.

If you were a Bernie person, your candidate was cucked by someone who was beaten by a reality TV star. That's even worse.

[DMC]

Of course you're not at fault. But, you voted for a candidate that campaigned on setting a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. He won and did exactly that. Now you're whining about it like a pussy. Hindsight's 20/20.

Then you agree it wasn't GWB's troop count, rather the early withdrawal that exacerbated the issue?

You're trying to introduce a red herring but the issue is whether GWB or Obama is at fault, not who voted for whom. I voted for both.

[Th'Pusher]

Then you agree it wasn't GWB's troop count, rather the early withdrawal that exacerbated the issue?

You're trying to introduce a red herring but the issue is whether GWB or Obama is at fault, not who voted for whom. I voted for both.

:lol GWB or Obama's fault. You're a complete simpleton.

[DMC]

:lol GWB or Obama's fault. You're a complete simpleton.

I've schooled your sloppy ass to the PhD level.

[Th'Pusher]

I've schooled your sloppy ass to the PhD level.

Both you and I know that's not the case Mr New Chemical Entity by country. :lol You were trying so hard to back up your arguement with empirical data after completely shitting your pants arguing for absolute zero forced wealth transfer.

The invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
disbanding the Iraqi army was a mistake
withdrawing troops too early was a mistake

But yeah. What's important is establishing whether it was Bush's or Barry's fault.

Fucking simpleton.

:lol

[DMC]

Both you and I know that's not the case Mr New Chemical Entity by country. :lol You were trying so hard to back up your arguement with empirical data after completely shitting your pants arguing for absolute zero forced wealth transfer.

The invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
disbanding the Iraqi army was a mistake
withdrawing troops too early was a mistake

But yeah. What's important is establishing whether it was Bush's or Barry's fault.

Fucking simpleton.

:lol
:lol triggered

[z0sa]

:lol China
:lol today's superpowers

[DMC]

:lol China
:lol today's superpowers

:lol would need to rent a ship to get here
:lol not as bad as Mexico's "we will retaliate"
:lol Mexico threatening to withhold refugees