Should Field goals?

[RD2191]

Be allowed to win games? Yes, I'm a little salty about last night but I've hated games being decided by a "game winning" field goal" since I started watching the NFL. Should field goals just not be allowed in the 4th qtr? Idk, to me it's just not real football.

[SpursforSix]

Be allowed to win games? Yes, I'm a little salty about last night but I've hated games being decided by a "game winning" field goal" since I started watching the NFL. Should field goals just not be allowed in the 4th qtr? Idk, to me it's just not real football.

I was thinking about this yesterday tbh. On a broader level in that should they just do away with the kicking game altogether? Other than punts. Just start everything off with the ball on the 25 or something.

[clambake]

step away from the edge.

[leemajors]

:lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

wow:lol

[RD2191]

wow:lol

What's funny? I've hated it ever since brady and the pats were "winning" playoff games with field goals. It's a lame way to win games.

[RD2191]

I was thinking about this yesterday tbh. On a broader level in that should they just do away with the kicking game altogether? Other than punts. Just start everything off with the ball on the 25 or something.

I honestly wouldn't mind. To me, field goals add nothing to the game.

[SpursforSix]

What's funny? I've hated it ever since brady and the pats were "winning" playoff games with field goals. It's a lame way to win games.

People always laugh at the great thinkers Rob.

[RD2191]

People always laugh at the great thinkers Rob.

Indeed.

[SpursforSix]

I honestly wouldn't mind. To me, field goals add nothing to the game.

The only thing they add to the game is forcing TD's to be 6 points. Get away with the kicking shit and we can keep score by 1's. People bitch about soccer being low scoring while the NFL awards multiple points for most scoring events.

[RD2191]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/8898684/bayless-let-get-rid-field-goals-nfl

Pretty good article I just found. Skimmed through it but it pretty much describes how I feel about field goals.

[djohn2oo8]

No way this thread is made if Dallas won by a field goal :lol

[RD2191]

No way this thread is made if Dallas won by a field goal :lol

I've made it before in other forums TBH.

[SpursforSix]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/8898684/bayless-let-get-rid-field-goals-nfl

Pretty good article I just found. Skimmed through it but it pretty much describes how I feel about field goals.

Seriously. I doubt the NFL will ever get rid of them because it provides multiple spots for commercials.

[djohn2oo8]

I've made it before in other forums TBH.

It would have not been made after a Dallas win.

[SpursforSix]

It would have not been made after a Dallas win.

Listen...Rob's mom is a whore. For sure. But that doesn't mean that Rob is so biased that he would recommend changing the game because of one loss.

[clambake]

Listen...Rob's mom is a whore. For sure. But that doesn't mean that Rob is so biased that he would recommend changing the game because of one loss.
ha

[RD2191]

Listen...Rob's mom is a whore. For sure. But that doesn't mean that Rob is so biased that he would recommend changing the game because of one loss.

IDK how to respond to this.

[SpursforSix]

IDK how to respond to this.

Whoops. I didn't mean to insinuate that she takes money for sex. Just that she's super easy.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Wow. I think Avante and SuperCam have legit competition now for the worst football take of the year.

[Darth_Pelican]

It is called "Foot"ball after all.....

[SpursforSix]

:lol Wow. I think Avante and SuperCam have legit competition now for the worst football take of the year.

Me and Rob don't have much in common other than both spending time in his mom. But I agree with him 100% on this.
Get rid of the kicking game and in a few years, no one will give a shit.

[Clipper Nation]

Me and Rob don't have much in common other than both spending time in his mom. But I agree with him 100% on this.
Get rid of the kicking game and in a few years, no one will give a shit.
The NFL has become dull and predictable enough nowadays without getting rid of things like onside kicks that can help make comebacks happen, missed FGs/XPs that keep games interesting, and big kickoff/punt returns that add a jolt of excitement to games. Plus, I'm pretty sure the players' and coaches' unions would have an issue with basically getting rid of special teams.

Get rid of the kicking game and the sport becomes even more quarterback-dependent than it already is.

[Will Hunting]

Me and Rob don't have much in common other than both spending time in his mom. But I agree with him 100% on this.
Get rid of the kicking game and in a few years, no one will give a shit.
So if you want to go that route, why even continue to make it a game where field position actually matters? Why not just make it like a backyard game of thanksgiving football where each team takes turns starting at the same spot and tries to score :lol

[RD2191]

:lol Wow. I think Avante and SuperCam have legit competition now for the worst football take of the year.

It adds absolutely nothing to the game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It added to something for the Packers

[RD2191]

It added to something for the Packers

And Brady's legacy.

[SpursforSix]

The NFL has become dull and predictable enough nowadays without getting rid of things like onside kicks that can help make comebacks happen, missed FGs/XPs that keep games interesting, and big kickoff/punt returns that add a jolt of excitement to games. Plus, I'm pretty sure the players' and coaches' unions would have an issue with basically getting rid of special teams.

Get rid of the kicking game and the sport becomes even more quarterback-dependent than it already is.

I think it's be more exciting. Fourth and 3 on the opponent's 45 now becomes a possible time to go for it. Knowing that the other team can't just make 20 yards and kick an FG. Sure a returned kickoff is exciting but it's pretty rare. I'd rather see the excitement of 4th down plays where the ball is turned over if they don't make it. I wouldn't even care if they start the ball at the 50 for every possession and there are no punts. You have to get first down's or you lose the ball. As to onside kicks, recovery % is also very rare. Just figure out what that % is and have the kicking team spin a wheel based on that proportionate.

[monosylab1k]

Can't wait for his upcoming thread "Shouldn't teams with stars on their helmets be awarded 10 bonus points?"

[SpursforSix]

So if you want to go that route, why even continue to make it a game where field position actually matters? Why not just make it like a backyard game of thanksgiving football where each team takes turns starting at the same spot and tries to score :lol

Yeah...I'm OK with that. Put it at the 50. Or cut the field in half and everyone starts on their goalline. Or just drop the ball out of the sky at the 50 after each score and see who gets it and where it ends up.

[RD2191]

So zero good arguments? I figured.

[clambake]

I think it's be more exciting. Fourth and 3 on the opponent's 45 now becomes a possible time to go for it. Knowing that the other team can't just make 20 yards and kick an FG. Sure a returned kickoff is exciting but it's pretty rare. I'd rather see the excitement of 4th down plays where the ball is turned over if they don't make it. I wouldn't even care if they start the ball at the 50 for every possession and there are no punts. You have to get first down's or you lose the ball. As to onside kicks, recovery % is also very rare. Just figure out what that % is and have the kicking team spin a wheel based on that proportionate.

then you wouldn't even need 100 yards

50 will do. more seats, a posh lounging area, maybe a spa or 2.

[SpursforSix]

then you wouldn't even need 100 yards

50 will do. more seats, a posh lounging area, maybe a spa or 2.

That's a good point but it pretty much fucks all the new billion dollar stadiums that are set up for 100 yards. Maybe it could be different for each venue. Like how baseball parks have different dimensions. It's up to the team how they want to build it. As long as it's within certain parameters. You might have a 100 x 50 field in Dallas and in Miami, a 50 x 50.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah...I'm OK with that. Put it at the 50. Or cut the field in half and everyone starts on their goalline. Or just drop the ball out of the sky at the 50 after each score and see who gets it and where it ends up.
And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch :lol

[Clipper Nation]

The type of fans who bitch about the kicking game won't be happy until every game turns into the NFL Quarterback Challenge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUQr1fM3jCA

[SpursforSix]

And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch :lol

I hadn't given it much thought. I guess try it for a season and then see if I like it.

[clambake]

wouldn't it be safer if they didn't wear helmets or pads?


no way they would tackle the same. then no more injuries.

[RD2191]

And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch :lol

Of course you enjoy field goals. You're light 3 without them.

[Will Hunting]

I hadn't given it much thought. I guess try it for a season and then see if I like it.
:lol great logic, I'm sure the owners would go for that....."Let's potentially lose tons of money and piss off a bunch of fans by turning the NFL into a skills challenge for one full season just to see how it works!"

This might be hard for narcissistic cowboy fans to understand, but the rest of the NFL/its fans don't see the field goal as some big problem that it'd be worth it to sacrifice a season to address just because the Cowboys lost on one yesterday.

[Will Hunting]

Of course you enjoy field goals. You're light 3 without them.
That's telling me :lol

"You'd be light three superbowls if football had a completely different set of rules!!!"

[monosylab1k]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday :lol

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 :lmao kicking is what kept them in the game.

[SpursforSix]

:lol great logic, I'm sure the owners would go for that....."Let's potentially lose tons of money and piss off a bunch of fans by turning the NFL into a skills challenge for one full season just to see how it works!"

This might be hard for narcissistic cowboy fans to understand, but the rest of the NFL/its fans don't see the field goal as some big problem that it'd be worth it to sacrifice a season to address just because the Cowboys lost on one yesterday.

The loss has nothing to do with my attitude about the kicking game. Maybe just try it for one season in one division in each conference. Play by the home team's rules

[Robz4000]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday :lol

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 :lmao kicking is what kept them in the game.

Don't tell them that, they don't take to logic well...

[SpursforSix]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday :lol

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 :lmao kicking is what kept them in the game.

Not really. Instead of kicking field goals, they would have gone for touchdowns and probably won the game.

[Will Hunting]

The loss has nothing to do with my attitude about the kicking game.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Im sure it's just a total coincidence you picked the day after the loss to start bitching about it.

[SpursforSix]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Im sure it's just a total coincidence you picked the day after the loss to start bitching about it.

LOL at me bitching about it. Was just agreeing with Rob. I've thought it for a while but I don't like to start threads.

[RD2191]

Don't tell them that, they don't take to logic well...
Saystheninersfan:lol

[Will Hunting]

Why would there be any reason to "try it" at all when the consensus among NFL teams and fans is that football is better with a kicking game? Is the expectation that the NFL experiment with every retarded idea that cowboys fans come up with?

[clambake]

push the goal post another 8 yards back.

[RD2191]

Pats fans defending their pussy ass way of winning super bowls :lol

[SpursforSix]

Why would there be any reason to "try it" at all when the consensus among NFL teams and fans is that football is better with a kicking game? Is the expectation that the NFL experiment with every retarded idea that cowboys fans come up with?

Where's the back up for your consensus? At one point in time, the consensus was that slavery was a good thing and that the earth was flat.

[SpursforSix]

push the goal post another 8 yards back.

Just narrow the motherfucker. I could boot in 50 yard field goals all day long if I've got damn near 19' of tolerance.

[monosylab1k]

LOL at me bitching about it. Was just agreeing with Rob. I've thought it for a while but I don't like to start threads.

:lmao

[RD2191]

Consensus :lmao these fucking morons

[clambake]

Just narrow the motherfucker. I could boot in 50 yard field goals all day long if I've got damn near 19' of tolerance.

ok. reduce 8 ft. between the post.

[Will Hunting]

Where's the back up for your consensus? At one point in time, the consensus was that slavery was a good thing and that the earth was flat.
:lmao comparing field goals to slavery

":cry The poor Cowboys are being enslaved by Mason Crosby! The NFL needs to do something about it :cry!"

[RD2191]

Because field goals are the reason football is the most popular sport in the USA .:lol

[RD2191]

Besides pats fans, how many fans would the nfl lose if they eliminated field goals? The 5 faggots defending field goals in this thread? :lol

[SpursforSix]

ok. reduce 8 ft. between the post.

Yeah...that's a decent compromise.

[SpursforSix]

:lmao comparing field goals to slavery

":cry The poor Cowboys are being enslaved by Mason Crosby! The NFL needs to do something about it :cry!"

Just making the point that consensus (which you haven't backed up anyway) isn't always right.

[Will Hunting]

Just making the point that consensus (which you haven't backed up anyway) isn't always right.
You're comparing a source of entertainment to an important human rights issue.

[clambake]

Yeah...that's a decent compromise.

yeah, but just on one side.

[SpursforSix]

You're comparing a source of entertainment to an important human rights issue.

No I'm not.

[SpursforSix]

yeah, but just on one side.

wait...wot??? LOL...it's madcap but I kind of like it. So going one way, you're kicking through 19' but if you go the other, it's like 11'?

[clambake]

or put another crossbar on top!

[spurraider21]

Lol this thread

[monosylab1k]

:lmao comparing field goals to slavery

":cry The poor Cowboys are being enslaved by Mason Crosby! The NFL needs to do something about it :cry!"

21 years a slave :cry

[monosylab1k]

:cry and Dez Caught It :cry

[JoeTait75]

Instead of eliminating field goals and extra points, just eliminate the kicking specialist. Instead of specialists who are automatic from 55 yards and in, the league will go back to offensive tackles kicking straight ahead. Just playing devil's advocate, seeing as I root for a team whose best offensive "playmaker" more often than not has been the kicker.

[SpursforSix]

or put another crossbar on top!

That's not a bad idea. QB's have to measure their passes all the time. If they throw too hard, the receiver doesn't catch it. Meanwhile, a kicker just goes up there and kicks the ball as hard as they can. Make 'em put it through a target limited both horizontally and vertically.

[spurraider21]

That's not a bad idea. QB's have to measure their passes all the time. If they throw too hard, the receiver doesn't catch it. Meanwhile, a kicker just goes up there and kicks the ball as hard as they can. Make 'em put it through a target limited both horizontally and vertically.
Yeah and then hang swinging, blazing chainsaws as obstacles

[SpursforSix]

Yeah and then hang swinging, blazing chainsaws as obstacles

That sounds like American Gladiators. No thanks.

[lefty20]

Just change the whole damn FG scoring structure.
FG of 19yrds of less is worth 1Pt.
FG of 20-29 yds worth 2 pts
FG of 30-39 yds worth 3 pts.

I think u all get the idea.

[DeadlyDynasty]

^So you think the rules should reward a team for gaining fewer yards?

[Kawhitstorm]

Fatball games being decided by D-III Futbol players.:lmao

IY9iLkmpxL0

[lefty20]

^So you think the rules should reward a team for gaining fewer yards?

No, I think they should reward the teams with the best "Foot".

[Silver&Black]

At least OP admitted he was salty. The only logical explanation for this thread.

[Clipper Nation]

Of course you enjoy field goals. You're light 3 without them.

That's like saying the NFL should get rid of the quarterback position because the Cowboys would be light 5 without Staubach and Aikman.

[Clipper Nation]

Because field goals are the reason football is the most popular sport in the USA .:lol

Nobody said they were. They just aren't worth getting rid of. How many major changes to the game in recent memory have actually improved the product?

[Clipper Nation]

Fatball games being decided by D-III Futbol players.:lmao

IY9iLkmpxL0
:lol The so-called GOAT of your "sport" is a midget who can't successfully kick the ball into a wide-ass goal with the game on the line.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHG4nlc7TY

[monosylab1k]

No, I think they should reward the teams with the best "Foot".

While your idea was pretty retarded, an alternative might be that missed field goals takes points off the board. So if you make a 45 yarder you get 3 pts, but miss it and you lose 1 point. Miss a short FG/extra point and you lose 2 points. Might have teams rethinking if they want to risk losing points on an attempt.

Even so, the status quo is just fine.

[Avante]

:lol Wow. I think Avante and SuperCam have legit competition now for the worst football take of the year.

That would be your....

Tom Savage is the best QB in Texas.

......wow~~~~

[Avante]

Nothing is broke and needs fixing, the game is great just as it is. Kicking field goals is part of it.

But.....

You can't box and worry about a fighter getting knocked out. You can't play football as concerned with safety as they are now. That is hurting the game.

[lefty20]

While your idea was pretty retarded,

Rude, bro. A lot of time, energy and thought went into the inception of that idea.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol The so-called GOAT of your "sport" is a midget who can't successfully kick the ball into a wide-ass goal with the game on the line.

Missi being the GOAT is the equivalent of calling Curry the GOAT who couldn't score on Kevin Love.:lmao

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/28/09/31A46E2C00000578-3467537-image-a-1_1456650923036.jpg

GOAT:

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[Silver&Black]

^
I'll take your word on it. Wouldn't be caught dead watching a povertyball match.

Unlike all your kind....bash on football all the time....yet still watch the games. I find that part hilarious.

[Will Hunting]

:cry and Dez Caught It :cry

:cry Dez caught it while being enslaved by the oppressive field goal plantation system :cry

:cry so heroic :cry

[leemajors]

You'd be better off complaining about the awful officiating on both sides, and the officials not knowing the rules very well despite being the "best" for the playoffs. Silly thread.

[Mitch]

:lol

[Jodelo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHG4nlc7TY

Looked like a good field goal for me. :lmao

[Chinook]

FGs are more football than forward passing is. If anything, I'd love to see more kicking like there is in rugby.

[RD2191]

FGs are more football than forward passing is. If anything, I'd love to see more kicking like there is in rugby.

Permaban

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

This has got to be the worst thread I've ever read in my life. Have you just starting watching football? Seriously? Or are you trolling? I know you cliffdive when your team starts to choke, but my God dude. Half of me really thinks you're just from Mexico and are confused with which futbol you are watching.