Why does Manu not only get a pass for '13, the '06 Dirk foul, but also 0.4?

[Splits]

I think we all agree that Manu cost Timmy a chip in '13 with 8 turnovers and missed FT in the clincher

I think we also all agree that Manu cost Timmy a chip in '06 with the Dirk foul

But why does Manure get a pass for the 0.4 Fisher shot? It was his man. He played shit defense on that last shot, barely contested by falling away to the left without getting a hand in Fisher's face.

Timmy would have 8 if not for Manu ruining these 3 season.

[cd98]

No. Last thing you do on that play would be truly and block a foul and accidentally foul. He played it the right way. LA just got lucky.

[Splits]

No. Last thing you do on that play would be truly and block a foul and accidentally foul. He played it the right way. LA just got lucky.

It was his man that scored. It wasn't lucky. It was a defensive choke job on the easiest of plays.

[TheGreatYacht]

It was for sure his fault.

Imagine if that was Parker, lmfao..

[cd98]

It was his man that scored. It wasn't lucky. It was a defensive choke job on the easiest of plays.

No. You don't play up to close to a guy that's going to catch and shoot (all you can do at .4). Fisher made a one in a million shot. Playing tighter could have drawn a shooting foul and put him on the line. Don't forget it was LA and they got every close call.

[Splits]

It was for sure his fault.

Imagine if that was Parker, lmfao..

If Parker would have choked defensively on 0.4 like Manu did, this place would be a Trump-pee-pee ground on his grave

[DPG21920]

Splits, my man, who cares?

[Splits]

No. You don't play up to close to a guy that's going to catch and shoot (all you can do at .4). Fisher made a one in a million shot. Playing tighter could have drawn a shooting foul and put him on the line. Don't forget it was LA and they got every close call.

No.

Manu doesn't even contest. He puts his hands up and fades to his left like he is worshiping Che Guevara

[cd98]

Oh is this a troll thread on Manu? Oh then I guess manure should've blocked the shot but he choked.

[DontStopBelieving]

It has to eat at you that your life is so pathetic that you have to entertain yourself by trolling a sports forum... right?

[Splits]

Splits, my man, who cares?

Slow night, shorty.

[DarrinS]

Desperate TP fan thread

[marinoman]

I blame pop for the rotations and not knowing manu was struggling like crazy in the 2013 finals. 06 he made the 3 with 15 secs left, so I give him a pass on that fuckup. For.04 the fuck was he supposed to do? Fisher made a turnaround jumper which I have never even seen with .04 still not sure it should've counted.

plus he helped us with 4 rings

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFU-wXsRhic

[Snaq O'Meal]

If Parker would have choked defensively on 0.4 like Manu did, this place would be a Trump-pee-pee ground on his grave

Here are two different game winners.

One defender jumped and contested. The other defender simply surrendered.

http://crossoversportsus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/derek-fishers-0-4-shot.jpg

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/366343.jpg

[DPG21920]

Slow night, shorty.

I see you playboi

[TheGreatYacht]

If Parker would have choked defensively on 0.4 like Manu did, this place would be a Trump-pee-pee ground on his grave
:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Desperate TP fan thread
Salty old fuck

[south side spur]

I guess there are different ways to look at the '13 Finals. Ginobili cost the Spurs with his terrible play or blame Pop for leaving him out there when he was obviously struggling. Who else could Pop have went with there? That's the only problem.

Ginobili can't be blamed for .4 that was the timekeeper or referee whoever started the clock.

'06 was the dumbest thing Ginobili has ever done no excuses. He cost Duncan back to back titles. That was just a dumb play. He's 6'6" and to think he could block Nowitzki is just plain stupid. One of the worst plays I've seen in my 30 years as a Spurs fan.

However doesn't that play define Ginobili? He loves to write checks he can't cash. He just knows he can make that play when many wouldn't even try and the crazy thing is he used to make the play more often than not. He only knows one way to play and refuses to accept his limitations that come with age.

What the Spurs need is for Kawhi to develop that mentality.

[DarrinS]

Salty old fuck

Says guy with salty avatar. Beware of us old guys, tbh.

[james evans]

I give manu a pass for .4 because that was some bullshit. Fisher was allowed to catch the ball, turn around, and then fadeaway in .4 seconds. im-fucking-possible. but this didn't count in .7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyoTKbhiBVA

The NBA wanted the lakers in the finals and they steamrolled the Wolves in the next round

[Spur|n|Austin]

Still being worked up about losses from 10 years ago :lol

[gambit1990]

Here are two different game winners.

One defender jumped and contested. The other defender simply surrendered.

http://crossoversportsus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/derek-fishers-0-4-shot.jpg

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/366343.jpg

[gambit1990]

I give manu a pass for .4 because that was some bullshit. Fisher was allowed to catch the ball, turn around, and then fadeaway in .4 seconds. im-fucking-possible. but this didn't count in .7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyoTKbhiBVA

The NBA wanted the lakers in the finals and they steamrolled the Wolves in the next round
wow, had never seen that before. incredible miscall.

[BSfromTX]

Manu gets a pass, because without Manu you actually have 2-3 fewer rings.... And that may be a slight underestimate. People that can be critical of Manu are true idiots. It's not even debatable.

[Solid D]

therefore, Manu not getting a pass makes things so much more gratifying and provides closure. Is that right?

[Arcadian]

People underestimate how close the Spurs were to winning 5 straight titles 03-07. They were basically two plays away. So fucking dominant. Duncan Dynasty.

[spurs10]

Interesting how all the games you mentioned were 48 minutes and all the blame for not getting a championship is on one player who also gets no credit for the four Championships he played a huge part in. :lol Okay...

[GSH]

If he got a pass, this thread wouldn't exist... would it?

What you really mean is: "Why am I the only one still bitching constantly about things that happened years ago?"

[YGWHI]

OP is just a troll.


He only knows one way to play and refuses to accept his limitations that come with age.

That way to play seems very risky.

That's how he got turnovers in last minutes, how he missed shots...I'd love if Manu finally accepts his limitations.


What the Spurs need is for Kawhi to develop that mentality.

IDK...I prefer that Kawhi develop Tim's mental approach to the game than Manu's.

I rather a quiet superstar taking control of the game than a controversial genius.

Because Manu was a super talented genius but like most of those guys, he was and is so crazy too.

[Dex]

N2uA7DbWook

[100%duncan]

Because it shouldnt have counted. :wakeup

[Pocho La Pantera]

Don't feed the faggots.

[Kidd K]

I shit on Manu for 2013 since he absolutely deserves to be shit on for it, but .04? Nah. It wasn't exactly a 7 game series and Manu was pretty new to the NBA anyway.

That's as silly as it would be to blame Kawhi for the loss for missing his free throw in Manu's bed shitting game 6.

Manu gets a pass for .04 imo. I don't care too much about the Dirk play anymore either. We were in a good position because of him so it's unfair to come down on him for it; unlike game 6 where he was shitty for most of that series and really mediocre all season anyway.

[daledondale]

http://i.imgur.com/EKxFB5A.gif

[Canyonero]

OP is reaching new levels of faggotry.

[Pocho La Pantera]

http://i.imgur.com/EKxFB5A.gif

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Since when does Manu ever get a free pass for anything? Next to Kawhi, he's the most hated and criticized Spur on this website and one of the go-to scapegoats for every loss. After the 2013 Finals, upstairs was basically scorched earth against Manu and all Manu fans for a full calendar year. Meanwhile, threads criticizing certain other players get deleted, merged or locked on sight.

The real question is why Porker gets a free pass for those series. Against the Lakers in 2004, he had a disgusting .421 TS% but still chucked up almost 20 shots per game - more than Duncan or Manu took. Against the Mavs in 2006, Rique chucked up almost as many shots as prime Duncan and more than Manu and only managed a .478 TS%. And in 2013, Porky took as many shots per game than Duncan and more than Kawhi, on a meager .472 TS%. He got outplayed by Mario Chalmers down the stretch of that series, culminating in a shitstained 3-12 shooting night in Game 7 where he made no positive impact on the game.

Manu elevates his game in the playoffs. Porker is statistically the second-biggest playoff choke artist in NBA history. And yet Manu somehow gets the "choker" label due to a couple dumb plays in a career full of playoff heroics. New-age Spurfan is really, really dumb.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol all the triggered player fans from Argentina

Also did I just read the Spurs would be 2-3 rings SHORT without Manure?!?! :lmao

[Pocho La Pantera]

:lol all the triggered player fans from Argentina

Also did I just read the Spurs would be 2-3 rings SHORT without Manure?!?! :lmao I'd go with 2, I'm humble.

[cd98]

I'll say this. As great as Tim Duncan was, he would only have one title but for both Tony and Parker (and Kawhi in 2014). In each of the title runs, there were certain series where either Tony or Manu or both stepped up big to compliment Tim. Glad Tim was able to get that help to beat some of the monster teams in the 2000s and avoid becoming a one-hit wonder with the unfair stigma of winning a title in a shortened season. If Tim only had '99, people would have treated him as if he had never won a title.

[Fireball]

how often do we need to tell someone that 2014 does not happen without losing in 2013?

[james evans]

I'll say this. As great as Tim Duncan was, he would only have one title but for both Tony and Parker (and Kawhi in 2014). In each of the title runs, there were certain series where either Tony or Manu or both stepped up big to compliment Tim. Glad Tim was able to get that help to beat some of the monster teams in the 2000s and avoid becoming a one-hit wonder with the unfair stigma of winning a title in a shortened season. If Tim only had '99, people would have treated him as if he had never won a title.
Parker wasn't even the 2nd best player in 2003. haha. foh!!

[DAF86]

Manu also cost Duncan his only chance at gold in '04, tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Since when does Manu ever get a free pass for anything? Next to Kawhi, he's the most hated and criticized Spur on this website and one of the go-to scapegoats for every loss.

The real question is why Porker gets a free pass for those series. Against the Lakers in 2004, he had a disgusting .421 TS% but still chucked up almost 20 shots per game - more than Duncan or Manu took. Against the Mavs in 2006, Rique chucked up almost as many shots as prime Duncan and more than Manu and only managed a .478 TS%. And in 2013, Porky took as many shots per game than Duncan and more than Kawhi, on a meager .472 TS%. He got outplayed by Mario Chalmers down the stretch of that series, culminating in a shitstained 3-12 shooting night in Game 7 where he made no positive impact on the game.

Manu elevates his game in the playoffs. Porker is statistically the second-biggest playoff choke artist in NBA history. And yet Manu somehow gets the "choker" label due to a couple dumb plays in a career full of playoff heroics. New-age Spurfan is really, really dumb.

Nobody on this site is scrutinized more than Tony Parker. Nice attempt at a deflection post though.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244933

[Horse]

I think we all agree that Manu cost Timmy a chip in '13 with 8 turnovers and missed FT in the clincher

I think we also all agree that Manu cost Timmy a chip in '06 with the Dirk foul

But why does Manure get a pass for the 0.4 Fisher shot? It was his man. He played shit defense on that last shot, barely contested by falling away to the left without getting a hand in Fisher's face.

Timmy would have 8 if not for Manu ruining these 3 season.
Did he start the clock late too?

[cd98]

Manu also cost Duncan his only chance at gold in '04, tbh.

That and Kobe raping so he couldn't be on the team.

[cd98]

Parker wasn't even the 2nd best player in 2003. haha. foh!!

Meant to say Parker and Manu. Parker played well in 2003, but he was still young. He played great in 2005 and 2007.

[DarrinS]

As for the 2006 series against the Mavs, a lot of people forget that Spurs were down 3-1 in that series. Manu scored 30 points in game 6 to tie the series. In game 7, the Mavs led the entire game -- up by as much as 20 at one point. Manu was a huge part of the comeback in that game. Spurs first lead of the game was on a Manu 3-point shot, with 32 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. But, people only remember the foul on Dirk. Smh.

[cd98]

As for the 2006 series against the Mavs, a lot of people forget that Spurs were down 3-1 in that series. Manu scored 30 points in game 6 to tie the series. In game 7, the Mavs led the entire game -- up by as much as 20 at one point. Manu was a huge part of the comeback in that game. Spurs first lead of the game was on a Manu 3-point shot, with 32 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. But, people only remember the foul on Dirk. Smh.

Thats all true and the cruelty of sports.

[Chillen]

Get over it guys, 2006 foul on Dirk and crappy play in 2013 Manu played a huge role in the Spurs losing but enjoy the 4 NBA titles the big 3 won!

[DAF86]

As for the 2006 series against the Mavs, a lot of people forget that Spurs were down 3-1 in that series. Manu scored 30 points in game 6 to tie the series. In game 7, the Mavs led the entire game -- up by as much as 20 at one point. Manu was a huge part of the comeback in that game. Spurs first lead of the game was on a Manu 3-point shot, with 32 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. But, people only remember the foul on Dirk. Smh.

Not to mention that Manu was also the guy that made the go ahead 3 in game 7.

[ElNono]

Nobody on this site is scrutinized more than Tony Parker. Nice attempt at a deflection post though.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244933

It's not hyperbole though... some people legitimately wanted Manu dead, tbh...

I think I speak for more than one here when I hope Tony has a redeem playoff run with the kinda heroics Manu pulled in 2014, tbh...

[DarrinS]

Get over it guys, 2006 foul on Dirk and crappy play in 2013 Manu played a huge role in the Spurs losing but enjoy the 4 NBA titles the big 3 won!

I think criticism of his play in 2013 finals is valid, but not 2006 or .4 for fucks sakes.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I give manu a pass for .4 because that was some bullshit. Fisher was allowed to catch the ball, turn around, and then fadeaway in .4 seconds. im-fucking-possible. but this didn't count in .7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyoTKbhiBVA

The NBA wanted the lakers in the finals and they steamrolled the Wolves in the next round
I would have gone fucking apeshit if that was my team... re: the Baron Davis shot

[bklynspursfan]

Why does anyone need to be blamed? These guys aren't out there throwing games on purpose. Just how it goes sometimes, they're human. he's won far more games for us than lost.

[james evans]

Manu also cost Duncan his only chance at gold in '04, tbh.
no, that was Larry Brown and his pride

[cd98]

no, that was Larry Brown and his pride

Naw it was the roster. Sure there were names but Tim and Allen were the only stars in their prime. And Allen Iverson is one to have a good game in a losing effort. The really killer was losing Kobe. Tim and Kobe would've brought home the gold, but Kobe had to rape.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Every game has many plays.

No single play can cost one game let alone a playoff series that has many games.

The whole thing is very illogical.

[james evans]

Naw it was the roster. Sure there were names but Tim and Allen were the only stars in their prime. And Allen Iverson is one to have a good game in a losing effort. The really killer was losing Kobe. Tim and Kobe would've brought home the gold, but Kobe had to rape.
The team wasn't great from the start, but the real key was Lebron and Melo not getting the minutes they deserved. Even if Kobe was there, it wasn't much he could have done. Larry Brown was on that bullshit that summer. Had Arroyo out there looking like a hall of famer. Shit, that's where he earned his NBA money was during that game aginst the USA :lol . He over coached and for some reason, I can see popovich doing the same thing in 2020.

[MmP]

Labeling Manu's defense in 0.4 as "bad" just explains how much basketball you know.

[TheGreatYacht]

TOSB Manure choking as per usual

$14,000,000

#prayForManure

[DarrinS]

How many games has Porkchop missed lately?

[Pocho La Pantera]

Op is TGY wife?

[TheGreatYacht]

How many games has Porkchop missed lately?
Deflecting lmao, old shitbags gotta stick together

[TheGreatYacht]

Op is TGY wife?
Back over the wall you go

[Pocho La Pantera]

Back over the wall you go you wish faggot

[Splits]

lol tries to make a FT --> CLANK
lol tries to miss a FT --> GOOD

lol Manure

[TheGreatYacht]

lol tries to make a FT --> CLANK
lol tries to miss a FT --> GOOD

lol Manure
Sums up his career :lmao

[Splits]

Sums up his career :lmao

As I said in the OP, Timmy would have 7, maybe 8, if not for this piece of shit.

[DarrinS]

RIP, TP. :cry

[DarrinS]

34 yo -- muh back :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

34 yo -- muh back :cry
Manure was tearing his hammy back in the Yugoslavian league in 2000

[DarrinS]

Manure was tearing his hammy back in the Yugoslavian league in 2000

So many crunch time playoff games where TP (toilet paper) sits. :lmao

[ElNono]

He didn't have a spectacular game, but he was good. Set up Patty nicely on that 3 point play in the clutch.

The freethrows thing was a long shot anyways, tbh, credit to the Blazers for fouling up 3, tbh...

[TheGreatYacht]

So many crunch time playoff games where TP (toilet paper) sits. :lmao
So many late game instances where Manure costs the team the game/series/championship:lmao

[DarrinS]

So many late game instances where Manure costs the team the game/series/championship:lmao

Guess that's why Pop trusts him so much and not toilet paper.

[TheGreatYacht]

Guess that's why Pop trusts him so much and not toilet paper.
Toilet paper can be used to clean up Manure. Clever nickname senile fuck

[DarrinS]

Toilet paper can be used to clean up Manure. Clever nickname senile fuck

Lol, age smack. Not even 50 yet. I've watched waaay more games than your dumb ass. You have an avatar mocking our best player, but you're a smart fan, right? :lol

[SpurPadre]

Because he's a Hall of Famer who sacrificed being a starter for most of his prime, therefore being underpaid, and was the REAL '05 Finals MVP.

[TheGreatYacht]

People still use the underpaid thing? Lol thought that was what the $14,000,000 was for :lol ....

[ElNono]

People still use the underpaid thing? Lol thought that was what the $14,000,000 was for :lol ....

bargain, IMO, tbh, fwiw

[TheGreatYacht]

bargain, IMO, tbh, fwiw
:lol