Brian Windhorst: "Some NBA players are frustrated with Kawhi getting too much love"

[JohnnyMax]

https://overcast.fm/+ETRqHspIU/41:13

[TheGreatYacht]

Okay so he said it's Lebron for sure, and there's "others"..... Ima say it's Melo and Paul George lmfao. No longer Top 5 SF's

[dabom]

"System Player" :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Unreal. Kawhi has been a top 3 player in the league this season.

[BillMc]

Sheer jealousy.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fc/92/a0/fc92a0aea703ccb67559565f0f0dcdb8.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

Wow some dude said had Kawhi gotten drafted on 15 other teams, he'd be Otto Porter at best right now :lol

Did Popovich work on his own jumpshot , 3 times a day in the offseason, and then send his "IQ" to Kawhi?

[JohnnyMax]

John Wall
Hassan Whiteside
Paul George
Lebron
Durant
Lillard

the usual bytches

[lefty]

Sheer jealousy.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fc/92/a0/fc92a0aea703ccb67559565f0f0dcdb8.jpg

[cd98]

Is the too much love related to the Spurs/Pacers game getting bumped from national T.V. or is it because he's trailing Pachulia in all-star voting?

[BillMc]

"System Player" :lmao
http://i.imgur.com/noXigko.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e7/30/3d/e7303d30f5a16002d3af8886c5ac52c8.jpg

[Old School 44]

Love it! Send that podcast to Kawhi.

[dabom]

Mother fucker compared kawhi to Otto Porter. :lmao

Brian letting everyone know Lebron doesn't like all the love Kawhi is getting. :lmao

[dabom]

Wow some dude said had Kawhi gotten drafted on 15 other teams, he'd be Otto Porter at best right now :lol

Did Popovich work on his own jumpshot , 3 times a day in the offseason, and then send his "IQ" to Kawhi?

:lol

[dabom]

Kawhi was 2ND in MVP voting last year. They think the media must love him because he doesn't have the "skills". :lmao

[lilbthebasedgod]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

[bklynspursfan]

hilarious... "not just Lebron" he said. Interesting, I guess that means Lebron was one of them.. (?)

Here's to hoping Kawhi has a monster game Saturday and get the W

[Dre_7]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

Are you serious???? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Proff that playing for the spurs is Anti-narrative. If kawhi was playing for a different team he'd be the MVP now.

It all boils down to what Popvich has wanted this team be centered around. His philosophy. And proff nba players cant be bothered tp watch games.

[Seventyniner]

Pretty sure it's just Windhorst that's frustrated.

[apalisoc_9]

It's most likely not from anyone in the west..Not of the warriors players for sure. Not boogie for sure.

Its most likely Paul George and Carmelo :lol...

Has beens basically.

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol wow

Melo and George are easy picks here, but Lebron? Hasn't he said Kawhi defends him the best - he also recently said Spurs are underrated so that doesn't really make sense.

[TheDoctor]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

:jekka

[Chinook]

So bitch-made.

[ElNono]

But what does Lebron farts smell like?

[spursfan09]

What love!?

[RD2191]

:lolI understand the hate my cowboys get, but the spurs? How the fuck can anyone hate on the Spurs? Especially a quiet and humble guy like Kawhi? Wow. Is there a better do it all player than kawhi? Lebron maybe? Kawhi is arguably the 2nd best player in the league right now.

[apalisoc_9]

Its really astounding though.

It seems Kawhi has like a 180 with player opinions.

Some players regard him very highly cousins etc. Some are just bitch made.

Ofcourse, windhorst is probably also trying to prop up the saturday game which is now even more exciting.

[RD2191]

:lolif anything, Pop has held kawhi back. Tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

:lolif anything, Pop has held kawhi back. Tbh.

Pop wants the narrative of this team to be about him. I've said it before. He's even trying to act now like he micromanaged timmy in his peak years.Timmy was actually playing 40mpg a game.

[Arcadian]

:lol Those bitter faggots. They can't stand being surpassed by a humble quiet guy who kicks their asses on the court.

[apalisoc_9]

What love!?
Exactly. Lip service...but he's actually net getting any genuine love.

[dabom]

:lolif anything, Pop has held kawhi back. Tbh.

Kawhi can easily hit 30 points when Pop just increases his minutes.

[spurraider21]

Surprised parker wasn't on that list tbh

[RD2191]

I'm not saying what pop is doing is wrong, but let's not pretend pop doesn't treat kawhi like a 35 year old ve when it comes to playing time. :lol

[Chinook]

Let's hope LMA shows up this time around. Dude can't let Tristan Kardashian cuck him again.

[DJR210]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

:lol

[Perry Mason]

Wow some dude said had Kawhi gotten drafted on 15 other teams, he'd be Otto Porter at best right now :lol

Did Popovich work on his own jumpshot , 3 times a day in the offseason, and then send his "IQ" to Kawhi?

Exactly.

Sure, there is a good coaching staff and with good resources. But only the Player can take the training and do the incredibly hard work to improve. And frankly if he can improve in a measurable way, then he does have the natural talent too. It just took a little longer to cultivate. So what. Beethoven wrote his best work at the end of his life.

[sasaint]

http://i.imgur.com/noXigko.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e7/30/3d/e7303d30f5a16002d3af8886c5ac52c8.jpg

Yep, clearly "system" plays.

[SpurPadre]

I can't listen to the audio, who besides Lebron thinks Kawhi is overrated? And who compared him to Otto Porter?

[Chinook]

http://i.imgur.com/noXigko.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e7/30/3d/e7303d30f5a16002d3af8886c5ac52c8.jpg

Those guys probably have those pictures but with Pop's face photoshopped on to Kawhi's body.

[loveforthegame]

Salty players. :lol

[dabom]

Surprised parker wasn't on that list tbh

They were talking about talented athletes. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

I can't listen to the audio, who besides Lebron thinks Kawhi is overrated? And who compared him to Otto Porter?

Lebron only confirmed dude. Mlst likely Melo and George.

Unlikely it's the western guys.

[Brazil]

:lol great news tbh

[Kawhitstorm]

Okay so he said it's Lebron for sure, and there's "others"..... Ima say it's Melo and Paul George lmfao. No longer Top 5 SF's

I could definitely see Domino's :lolfavorite player:lol (Paul George) being salty especially w/ Kawhi being associated w/ the Pacers but Carmelo (Kawhi's childhood idol) actually has a good relationship w/ Kawhi b/c of the Jordan brand & even gave him props for his defense last season. I think he even said that they've worked out w/ each other in the summer.

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[apalisoc_9]

:lol great news tbh

I was thinking the same thing. Saturday is going to be fun. :lol

[toki9]

I can't listen to the audio, who besides Lebron thinks Kawhi is overrated? And who compared him to Otto Porter?

I think it was David Thorpe who made that Otto Porter comment, but not sure if I got the voices right. And Lebron was the only one named (Windhorst said, "Not just Lebron" when one of the other speakers threw out Lebron's name--so not sure if Windhorst meant to confirm that the comment was made by Lebron).

[SpurPadre]

Lebron only confirmed dude. Mlst likely Melo and George.

Unlikely it's the western guys.

But who says he's Otto Porter? And we all know how Durant called him a system player before and never apologized for it. Here's my list of suspects:

Lebron
Durant
Paul George
Melo
Jimmy Butler
Dwight Howard
James Harden

[SpurPadre]

I think it was David Thorpe who made that Otto Porter comment, but not sure if I got the voices right. And Lebron was the only one named (Windhorst said, "Not just Lebron" when one of the other speakers threw out Lebron's name--so not sure if Windhorst meant to confirm that the comment was made by Lebron).

Thanks. Well, Thorpe doesn't surprise me. He's a known Spurs hater.

[BillMc]

Yep, clearly "system" plays.


Those guys probably have those pictures but with Pop's face photoshopped on to Kawhi's body.
:lol:toast

[apalisoc_9]

But who says he's Otto Porter? And we all know how Durant called him a system player before and never apologized for it. Here's my list of suspects:

Lebron
Durant
Paul George
Melo
Jimmy Butler
Dwight Howard
James Harden

Jimmy Bulter likes kawhi bro. He said is one of the best players in the world even before his explosion. About mid-season last year when he was only averging 20ppg. Harden is a good suspect. George is a sure shot. Dominos is almost a sure shot.

[Kawhitstorm]

But who says he's Otto Porter? And we all know how Durant called him a system player before and never apologized for it. Here's my list of suspects:

Lebron
Durant
Paul George
Melo
Jimmy Butler
Dwight Howard
James Harden

Jimmy Butler & Kawhi are actually buddies; Harden (Dominos bestie) should be added to the list along w/ Dominos/George. Westbrook probably think he's Jordan so I'm assuming he think anyone rated to be as good or better than him is overrated.:lol

Gaymond has been throwing shade at Kawhi's since he won DPOY but who cares about what a scrub think about Kawhi, same w/ Klay.:lol

Curry probably wants to be cucked by Kawhi & as his wife has a thing for big black strong men.:wakeup

http://news.hiphopearly.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/curry-Lebron.png

[cd98]

In fairness, I do think some of the points are valid opinions though not necessarily correct. Kawhi had raw talent coming into the league, good enough to be a low end lottery pick. But he had a broken jump shot, wasn't a good ball handler, and wasn't an out-of-this-world athlete, though he is athletic. People figured his wingspan and large hands would help him become a good to great defender, but thought the hands would prevent him from becoming a great shooter.

But did coming to the Spurs make him a better player? I could see this as a "yes" or "not necessarily." The Spurs are great at developing their talent, so Kawhi worked with Chip and Chad and through the development program, it has helped him to be an MVP-level player, something that no one ever dreamed he could accomplish. That said, Kawhi is a well-known gym rat who has a great work ethic and the singular desire and focus to be the best, so he had good development help, but he took full advantage of it by working his tail off. There are players that are more natural talents that may not have worked as hard as Kawhi, and therefore, don't reach his potential despite having great development opportunities. Also, some teams just don't manage talent well on the court and in game plans and don't have veteran leadership. Kawhi got those things and I'm sure they made a difference, though maybe not the difference of him and say, Otto Porter.

Point is, I can see what David Thorpe is saying. I can agree with him on those points to an extent. But other than that, the alleged hate by Lebron and others is baffling, especially considering that Lebron gets more love and attention than any player in the history of basketball, even MJ.

[SpurPadre]

Jimmy Bulter likes kawhi bro. He said is one of the best players in the world even before his explosion. About mid-season last year when he was only averging 20ppg. Harden is a good suspect. George is a sure shot. Dominos is almost a sure shot.

I just remember when Butler had an off night against the Spurs last year, a reporter asked him if Kawhi's defense bothered him, he said something to the effect that it had nothing to do with it and that only he can stop himself and laughed at the reporter like it was the dumbest thing anyone's ever said to him. I thought of another suspect though, Giannis AnteCOOKOOFORCOCOAPUFFS, tbh.

[cd98]

Thanks. Well, Thorpe doesn't surprise me. He's a known Spurs hater. Naw. There are a few truehoopers that hate the Spurs, but Thorpe is highly positive about the Spurs. He was even surprised and baffled that players were hating on him and he had him as an all star starter (whatever that means as I can't stand the all-star game). I've heard him on Lowe Post and other forums, and I've never heard him say anything negative about the Spurs. Only positive things.

[Chinook]

Hope Draymond gets cucked by a mediocre player if he wins DPOY this season just like Noah was when he won.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Funny thing is from next season Otto Porter will be paid more than Kawhi :lol

[cd98]

Funny thing is from next season Otto Porter will be paid more than Kawhi :lol I'd take Otto Porter. Spurs could make him a stud too.

[From Downtown]

I just remember when Butler had an off night against the Spurs last year, a reporter asked him if Kawhi's defense bothered him, he said something to the effect that it had nothing to do with it and that only he can stop himself and laughed at the reporter like it was the dumbest thing anyone's ever said to him. I thought of another suspect though, Giannis AnteCOOKOOFORCOCOAPUFFS, tbh.

The Greek Freak is too much of a nice guy to hate on Kawhi

[Kawhitstorm]

I just remember when Butler had an off night against the Spurs last year, a reporter asked him if Kawhi's defense bothered him, he said something to the effect that it had nothing to do with it and that only he can stop himself and laughed at the reporter like it was the dumbest thing anyone's ever said to him. I thought of another suspect though, Giannis AnteCOOKOOFORCOCOAPUFFS, tbh.

Giannis has the same attitude as WestBrick, he probably thinks he's better than LeBron.:lol

[Chinook]

Giannis has the same attitude as WestBrick, he probably thinks he's better than LeBron.:lol

Giannis has take fake-humble thing going on. Dude was still begging for handouts from his teammates after he became a millionaire.

[TXstbobcat]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

do you you watch the Spurs games????? Leonard is having an MVP season.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Greek Freak is too much of a nice guy to hate on Kawhi
Giannis is a fake nice guy like momma's boy Kevin Durdelta

Here's Giannis staring down Kawhi after a block


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39gFH41haEo&feature=share

[UZER]

Amazing. Just goes to show you all the TD got was 100% earned. None was freely given like Melo in NY.

Which brings up the point that if Duncan had played in LA or NY, he's be viewed as Bill Russell jr.

[Brazil]

I was thinking the same thing. Saturday is going to be fun. :lol

exactly :lol

there is no better recognition than best player in the world feeling the need to comment on you especially to say meh he is overrated and stuff tbh... Lebron just crowed Kawhi as his biggest competition which is awesome. One can tell Lebron hates that gif of him annoyed by Kawhi checking in the game....

I hope this starts a stretch of years of rivalry between Spurs / Cavs and Lebron / Kawhi (this one is already on going)... too bad Spurs won't react and say anything because some back and forth between both and the two franchises would be pretty darn good for Kawhi and the NBA

[Strategic]

Likely just a CIA Pop mouth move by someone to convince Leonard to jump from a floating ship onto their own personal canoe.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

It's not melo and George, it's draymond green. He feels robbed of DPOY because of Kawhi

[Kawhitstorm]

Its really astounding though.

It seems Kawhi has like a 180 with player opinions.

Some players regard him very highly cousins etc. Some are just bitch made.

It's this simple, elite players who have to go up against him don't like hearing that he's better than them while others respect him b/c he doesn't run his mouth even if he's giving it to them such as in Cousins' case.

[Kawhitstorm]

It's not melo and George, it's draymond green. He feels robbed of DPOY because of Kawhi

Draymond ALWAYS has something shady to say about Kawhi even when he's throwing out compliments:

After Kawhi dropped a career-high 35: "He had a good game but we let him got to his right every time"....trying to insinuate that he doesn't have a left hand.:lol

[Chris]

Fat piece of garbage spewing out garbage. Nothing to see here folks.

[Robz4000]

:rollin today's NBA

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Draymond ALWAYS has something shady to say about Kawhi even when he's throwing out compliments:

After Kawhi dropped a career-high 35: "He had a good game but we let him got to his right every time"....trying to insinuate that he doesn't have a left hand.:lol

He really is an insecure bitch isn't he? Maybe he should focus on more on shutting his mouth and less on defending people with a knee to the groin :lol

[lefty]

They never complained about Porker TBH

[Mr. Body]

"You know who also got too much love? Tim Duncan."

[BillMc]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/photo/2017/0118/Leonard.PNG&cquality=80

[r0drig0lac]

I do not think lebron is on this "list"

[apalisoc_9]

I do not think lebron is on this "list"

Windhorst confirmed it. :lol

[Spurs9]

Some players talk a big game and constantly want attention. Khawi doesn't say anything and just goes out and produces on the court. :lmao
:lol bitter players who constantly need a drip of social media approval from random internet nerd followers
:lol "I have more followers than Khawi" :cry

[r0drig0lac]

Windhorst confirmed it. :lol

this is strange, Lebron has always respected Duncan, Kawhi has the same kind of behavior, I think Windhorst wants to create something to talk about the game of Saturday

[UZER]

Wonder if windhorst slipped up by dropping Lebron's name because didn't say LeBron, he said not just LeBron. Sounds like a doh moment.

[cd98]

I wouldn't be surprised if Windhorst was lying. He's a blowhard that coattailed LeBron and is essentially manipulated by LeBron just like the Cavs. I think he has these "hot shot" takes to make people think that he's "in" with the players and give himself some kind of street cred. But I'm also sure if anyone played up Kawhi's ability to guard LeBron in LeBron's presence, LeBron would scoff. He's the guy who suppressed a video of a college player dunking on him in a pickup game.

[lefty20]

Surprised parker wasn't on that list tbh

:lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

I do not think lebron is on this "list"

Neither do I - Lebron practically called the Spurs underrated last week.


Windhorst confirmed it. :lol

Gotta be true then!

[itzsoweezee]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

Never post again. Thanks.

[Robz4000]

Neither do I - Lebron practically called the Spurs underrated last week.



Gotta be true then!

LeBron loves Pop tbh; doesn't mean he doesn't think Kawhi is overrated. The argument they were using was that Kawhi is as good as he is thanks to the Spurs' organization and that if he was on 15 other teams he'd be an above average player. Personally, it sounds like jealousy to me; some of them put themselves in horrible situations by their own stupid actions (Fatmelo).

[cd021]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.

His shooting numbers are pretty similar, while upping his shots per game and scoring per game while also increasing his efficiency 49%/42%/92% shooting splits for a wing player averaging 25 ppg is excellent.
His rebounding has dipped along with his steals because he is being put on an island, forcing him farther away from the play and the ball.

[hater]

:loltt:lol:lol p:lolrter :lmao

[99 Problems]

Hell Brian, wait until Pop lets Kawhwawa push the accelerator to the floor. He's let him move to the front passenger seat from the rear of the Caddy but wait until he chucks him the keys.

[MultiTroll]

https://overcast.fm/+ETRqHspIU/41:13
Source :rolleyes
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d12/unsecured/media/275353188001/275353188001_696349899001_vs-696348852001.jpg

[$pursDynasty]

I don't hate on the LeBron like I used to, especially after him doing the impossible bringing a title to Cleveland and then humbling the Dubs so I wouldn't have to hear all that greatest team ever talk after a back to back. He is however known to throw shade and I am sure he doesn't appreciate a player whose coolest nickname (and ties into TV's hottest show) is the KingSlayer.

[TD 21]

I'm not surprised. NBA players have repeatedly shown over the years, that the players they value most, are ones who fit into their modern day, narrow minded stereotype of what a great basketball player should play, look and act like. Flawed players like Bryant, Iverson and Westbrook, are worshipped, because they check every box: athletic, dynamic perimeter players, who average(d) a ton of points, looked the part and possess the requisite on court demeanor/mannerisms.

Despite all the cliché comments opposing players feed the media when asked, Spurs players have been underrated for years and it only became further exacerbated post '14, when the masses couldn't grasp how a team with no player playing at a superstar level could not only win a championship, but do so in the fashion they did, so they chalked it up to "Pop's genius/system". Every other consensus all-time great NBA coach is seemingly supposed to apologize for having coached an all-time great player(s) (as if they're not the primary ingredient to winning a championship in any sport), but somehow Pop is the one who's players were more fortunate to have him than the other way around.

[SpurPadre]

Could Windhorst be doing the same thing McMullan did when she tried to instigate LMA wanting to be traded?

[UZER]

:loltt:lol:lol p:lolrter :lmao

Someone needs to post that shaqtin a fool clip.

[Spur|n|Austin]

LeBron loves Pop tbh; doesn't mean he doesn't think Kawhi is overrated. The argument they were using was that Kawhi is as good as he is thanks to the Spurs' organization and that if he was on 15 other teams he'd be an above average player. Personally, it sounds like jealousy to me; some of them put themselves in horrible situations by their own stupid actions (Fatmelo).

True he does love Pop, but there have also been a couple times he's praised Kawhi.

On who defends him best:


“Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard, he’s solid, He’s solid, solid at that end of the floor. He’s very, very solid. I like him. I like the kid.”

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/lebron-james-says-kawhi-leonard-defends-best/

Either way, if it's jealous animosity then so be it - haters.

[8FOR!3]

Not watching it or reading anything but I'm assuming Windhorst is getting passive aggressive bc people are talking about Kawhi more and not LeBron as much and it's hurting his feelings :lol

[SPURt]

Brian Windbag must be on Spurstalk. Brian must be squeezed into Lebron's game worn jersey and is fapping it good reading the fallout of his trolling.

[lilbthebasedgod]

His shooting numbers are pretty similar, while upping his shots per game and scoring per game while also increasing his efficiency 49%/42%/92% shooting splits for a wing player averaging 25 ppg is excellent.
His rebounding has dipped along with his steals because he is being put on an island, forcing him farther away from the play and the ball.
He's shooting 3 percent less from 3 and 2 percent less from the field. He's playing worse defense in the eye test as well as the numbers. I'll admit the three is partially because of the extra shot. The island theory has been wholly debunked as more evidence came in. His on ball defense is worse either way.

Also I did say he was really good. There's no evidence that he's in any way better, and there's evidence he's worse yet people keep saying its another huge leap.

[pgardn]

Source :rolleyes
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d12/unsecured/media/275353188001/275353188001_696349899001_vs-696348852001.jpg

Jesus...

His gravitational fat mass just pulled that lady right out of orbit.
She is stuck to that jello surface.
The first woman to land. Reverse thrusters and get the hell out of there Houston.

[pgardn]

Proff that playing for the spurs is Anti-narrative. If kawhi was playing for a different team he'd be the MVP now.

It all boils down to what Popvich has wanted this team be centered around. His philosophy. And proff nba players cant be bothered tp watch games.

No he would not.

He would be a possible top 3 scorer in the league on a team hopelessly out of the playoffs. I'm sure KL would love that.

[cd98]

Jesus...

His gravitational fat mass just pulled that lady right out of orbit.
She is stuck to that jello surface.
The first woman to land. Reverse thrusters and get the hell out of there Houston.

you would think given his size that he'd be a big (no pun intended) Spurs fan.

[CGD]

What a bunch of mental migits. Shut up and play ball.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Jesus...

His gravitational fat mass just pulled that lady right out of orbit.
She is stuck to that jello surface.
The first woman to land. Reverse thrusters and get the hell out of there Houston.

:lmao

[100%duncan]

Kawhi Lebron has potential to be a top 10 rivalry. Too bad we got cucked the last 2 years

[apalisoc_9]

I'm not surprised. NBA players have repeatedly shown over the years, that the players they value most, are ones who fit into their modern day, narrow minded stereotype of what a great basketball player should play, look and act like. Flawed players like Bryant, Iverson and Westbrook, are worshipped, because they check every box: athletic, dynamic perimeter players, who average(d) a ton of points, looked the part and possess the requisite on court demeanor/mannerisms.

Despite all the cliché comments opposing players feed the media when asked, Spurs players have been underrated for years and it only became further exacerbated post '14, when the masses couldn't grasp how a team with no player playing at a superstar level could not only win a championship, but do so in the fashion they did, so they chalked it up to "Pop's genius/system". Every other consensus all-time great NBA coach is seemingly supposed to apologize for having coached an all-time great player(s) (as if they're not the primary ingredient to winning a championship in any sport), but somehow Pop is the one who's players were more fortunate to have him than the other way around.

I actually have reason to believe pop purpusly manufactures this narrative too. The way he talks about Timmy now is bit concerning. Speaking as if he actually micromanage Tim in his peak when in actual reality he was averaging 40mpg and getting double teams on a very basic offensive system.

[coachmac87]

I'm not surprised. NBA players have repeatedly shown over the years, that the players they value most, are ones who fit into their modern day, narrow minded stereotype of what a great basketball player should play, look and act like. Flawed players like Bryant, Iverson and Westbrook, are worshipped, because they check every box: athletic, dynamic perimeter players, who average(d) a ton of points, looked the part and possess the requisite on court demeanor/mannerisms.

Despite all the cliché comments opposing players feed the media when asked, Spurs players have been underrated for years and it only became further exacerbated post '14, when the masses couldn't grasp how a team with no player playing at a superstar level could not only win a championship, but do so in the fashion they did, so they chalked it up to "Pop's genius/system". Every other consensus all-time great NBA coach is seemingly supposed to apologize for having coached an all-time great player(s) (as if they're not the primary ingredient to winning a championship in any sport), but somehow Pop is the one who's players were more fortunate to have him than the other way around.



All-Time Great Post tbh..

[JohnnyMax]

Jason Terry called Kawhi a "B player"

[Spur|n|Austin]

Jason Terry called Kawhi a "B player"

What does that make Jason Terry?

[apalisoc_9]

What does that make Jason Terry?

To be fair the retard changed his opinion after 2 days :lol

[tholdren]

exactly :lol

there is no better recognition than best player in the world feeling the need to comment on you especially to say meh he is overrated and stuff tbh... Lebron just crowed Kawhi as his biggest competition which is awesome. One can tell Lebron hates that gif of him annoyed by Kawhi checking in the game....

I hope this starts a stretch of years of rivalry between Spurs / Cavs and Lebron / Kawhi (this one is already on going)... too bad Spurs won't react and say anything because some back and forth between both and the two franchises would be pretty darn good for Kawhi and the NBA
Already got my tickets

[GSH]

If I thought Kawhi getting more endorsements would make him give the team a discount on salary, then I'd be pulling for him to get more attention. But that's not happening. So until they start voting for who gets the LOB, I don't really give a damn.

[bic50]

Haters gonna hate

[Clipper Nation]

*cough*TonyParker*cough*

[pgardn]

*cough*TonyParker*cough*

Hernia testing 123, Hernia 123...

[Down Under]

I actually have reason to believe pop purpusly manufactures this narrative too. The way he talks about Timmy now is bit concerning. Speaking as if he actually micromanage Tim in his peak when in actual reality he was averaging 40mpg and getting double teams on a very basic offensive system.From 1998-2007 this team's whole offense was give it to Duncan in the post and surround with shooters. Team was entirely defense oriented.

[apalisoc_9]

From 1998-2007 this team's whole offense was give it to Duncan in the post and surround with shooters. Team was entirely defense oriented.

Tell that to pop

[lefty20]

This discussion is rather pointless without having more names attached to it, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

This discussion is rather pointless without having more names attached to it, tbh.


*cough*TonyParker*cough*

[lefty20]

Porker, Fatlo, PG-13 are all speculation. LBJ was the only name mentioned by Windy, and even that was more of a slip.

[RD2191]

It's probably just mostly LeBron tbh. Fathurst just said there were others to take the heat off of lbj.

[wildcardX]

http://i.imgur.com/YQZ7yWY.jpg

Great, now they have Otto thinking he's as good as Kawhi.

[MI21]

What love has Kawhi ever gotten in terms of love that is voted on? 2 x DPOY and I don't think anyone could ever question the validity of those because if he isn't the best defender in the league then his still one of the best 3.

Weird statement really.

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi Lebron has potential to be a top 10 rivalry. Too bad we got cucked the last 2 years

Too bad LeBitch abandoned the Heatles instead of seeking revenge.:wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

What love has Kawhi ever gotten in terms of love that is voted on?

The 2015 "Players' Award" revealed that Curry/Kawhi weren't well liked by other players b/c of their altar boy image.:lol

[resistanze]

John Wall
Hassan Whiteside
Paul George
Lebron
Durant
Lillard

the usual bytches

copy and paste from thecoli http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

[rasuo214]

Probably several of the Warriors. Draymond desperately wants to win DPOY and felt like he's been robbed twice and Durant had to backtrack his "system player" remarks. Wouldn't surprise me if Klay was another (best 2-way player). I'd be surprised if Curry was one because he also gets the overrated label and Kawhi hasn't really been a threat to him or his branding.

[Brazil]

and it all started with a gif...

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

[UZER]

ABC crew last night said he was Top 5 in the league. They didn't reference windhorst. It was just in casual conversation.

[urunobili]

Pop wants the narrative of this team to be about him. I've said it before. He's even trying to act now like he micromanaged timmy in his peak years.Timmy was actually playing 40mpg a game.

This is true. The micromanaging thing came to be when the big three started to decline. He'd also play Manu and TP 35 min before the decline...

[dabom]

I think Pop understands the consequences when it comes to playing players big minutes or into the ground. He is looking out for them.

[Ice009]

Well that goes both ways. I'm frustrated with most of the hyped up players in the NBA getting too much love, when in reality, a lot of them aren't that great.

[Spurs9]

and it all started with a gif...

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

:lol

[TheDoctor]

I just remember when Butler had an off night against the Spurs last year, a reporter asked him if Kawhi's defense bothered him, he said something to the effect that it had nothing to do with it and that only he can stop himself and laughed at the reporter like it was the dumbest thing anyone's ever said to him. I thought of another suspect though, Giannis AnteCOOKOOFORCOCOAPUFFS, tbh.

I think that was P.George actually.

Paul George blames sickness, not Kawhi Leonard for bad shooting night.. (http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2015/12/21/kawhi-leonard-leads-spurs-past-pacers-paul-george/77304440/)

[r0drig0lac]

From 1998-2007 this team's whole offense was give it to Duncan in the post and surround with shooters. Team was entirely defense oriented.

[Kawhitstorm]

copy and paste from thecoli http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

Wasn't John Wall trying to get recruited by being EXTRA friendly w/ Kawhi/Pop this season when they were walking off the court?:lol

[resistanze]

Wasn't John Wall trying to get recruited by being EXTRA friendly w/ Kawhi/Pop this season when they were walking off the court?:lol

John Wall is the whiniest player in the league tbh :lol

[GSH]

Look, this guy didn't quote LeBron. You guys don't know what he really said, if he said anything at all. He may have made some statement that was reasonable, and this POS turned it around. It wasn't LeBron who said Kawhi would be Otto Porter on any other team - it was the douchebags doing the podcast. Why would you give them any credibility.


Oh, and where/who would Steph Curry be, if he hadn't grown up learning how to play from his father, who was a good NBA player? Does it not count of the player was "developed" every day since he was a toddler? The Spurs FO obviously saw something in Kawhi that others missed. So fucking what? He is who he is right now. These insignificant shits don't have a job unless they can manufacture some controversy. The fact is, they know that dissing Kawhi will be controversial.

That is all.

[BatManu20]

Guarantee it's Lebron, Melo, Draymond, and/or Paul George. A bunch of jealous cucks outside of Lebron, who hates that other players win MVP awards (although he has an arguement there).

[Chinook]

What makes it more damning to me is that Windbag didn't seem to know what he was saying. I think he just let it slip out that Lebron was one of those people. I think had he thought about it, he wouldn't have dropped James' name. gt

[BatManu20]

John Wall is the whiniest player in the league tbh :lol

He's kind of a dick too. Met him out here in LA a couple years ago at Pinz Bowling Alley during a Wrap Party for a movie (I work for a production company). I, along with a couple other co-workers were introduced to him, and he acted like we were dogshit who weren't worthy of being in his presence (although the same can be said for a lot of people out here). But still, fuck that guy tbh :lol

[TheDoctor]

Look, this guy didn't quote LeBron. You guys don't know what he really said, if he said anything at all. He may have made some statement that was reasonable, and this POS turned it around. It wasn't LeBron who said Kawhi would be Otto Porter on any other team - it was the douchebags doing the podcast. Why would you give them any credibility.


Oh, and where/who would Steph Curry be, if he hadn't grown up learning how to play from his father, who was a good NBA player? Does it not count of the player was "developed" every day since he was a toddler? The Spurs FO obviously saw something in Kawhi that others missed. So fucking what? He is who he is right now. These insignificant shits don't have a job unless they can manufacture some controversy. The fact is, they know that dissing Kawhi will be controversial.

That is all.

I too don't believe LeBron said anything at all regarding Kawhi's attention. P.George could be it, definitely WHITESIDE is one of them.

[dabom]

What makes it more damning to me is that Windbag didn't seem to know what he was saying. I think he just let it slip out that Lebron was one of those people. I think had he thought about it, he wouldn't have dropped James' name. gt

dude is a Lebron slurper. Why in hell would he say this. Dude definitely slipped. :lol

[SpurPadre]

Lebron backpedaling already tonight:

"Pop has been able to adjust every single time and still, for some odd reason, keep those guys under the radar. I don't understand it."

You can't question why a team is under the radar and complain that the best player from that team is getting too much love. Someone needs to call out Windhorst or openly ask Lebron if what he said was true.

[picnroll]

Kawhi was voted number 2 amongst bigs in the West after Durant by the players. Much ado about nothing.

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi was voted number 2 amongst bigs in the West after Durant by the players. Much ado about nothing.

Draymond Green being the alternative helped Kawhi's cause.:lol

[YGWHI]

He's shooting 3 percent less from 3 and 2 percent less from the field.
Are you serious? Do you worry about only 2%??? Kawhi has the best total shooting percentage among the top 10 scorers in the league. Also, he's 96th percentile on offense.


He's playing worse defense in the eye test as well as the numbers....His on ball defense is worse either way.
Stop trolling. Kawhi shut down every wing this season. Gay, Klay, Butler, Wiggins...

[Quadzilla99]

Jesus...

His gravitational fat mass just pulled that lady right out of orbit.
She is stuck to that jello surface.
The first woman to land. Reverse thrusters and get the hell out of there Houston.

Lmao.

[John Petrucci]

LBJ just had an interview saying Pop is the greatest coach of all time with how he's adapted to all the different styles of bball over the past 2 decades...seemed to kinda go out of his way to mention Tim, Manu, and TP...but no mention of Kawhi being a key to their modern success :lol

"He's been able to build around Timmy, and Tony, and Manu and bring 'pieces' in...in and out throughout his whole tenure." :lol

Gosh we sure are lucky we brought in that small missing piece, Kawhi, to build around the main guys. Who knows where we'd be without his willingness to play his role? :rollin Not like he's a superstar or anything.

Like people constantly say...almost everything LBJ says is premeditated/calculated. Simultaneously taking a shot at Phil and downplaying Kawhi's greatness. He's really quite good at this stuff.

[FromWayDowntown]

Gosh we sure are lucky we brought in that small missing piece, Kawhi, to build around the main guys. Who knows where we'd be without his willingness to play his role? :rollin Not like he's a superstar or anything.

Tinkering around the edges.

[John Petrucci]

Tinkering around the edges.

You're saying he's almost a superstar but not quite there? Not sure what you meant.

[FromWayDowntown]

You're saying he's almost a superstar but not quite there? Not sure what you meant.

I'm saying that LBJ's quote all but suggests that the Spurs' acquisition of Kawhi a few years ago was just "tinkering around the edges" of their core.

I was being quite sarcastic.

[John Petrucci]

I'm saying that LBJ's quote all but suggests that the Spurs' acquisition of Kawhi a few years ago was just "tinkering around the edges" of their core.

I was being quite sarcastic.

Ah right, gotcha. So was I :toast

Hoping Kawhi has a great outing Saturday.

[spursistan]

Seems like a non-story, tbh...Though Looks like players hate the guts of Draymond Green :lol..He is basically a smaller and less talented KG but a lot more douchy and dirty POS..

[Southwest Texas Fan]

In a way. He's regressed quite a bit from last season which is annoying.

He's still really really good.


Are you serious???? :lol

Troll

[poeticism707]

Not watching it or reading anything but I'm assuming Windhorst is getting passive aggressive bc people are talking about Kawhi more and not LeBron as much and it's hurting his feelings :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[playbonner15]

Coz Otto Porter was overrated in the draft and just didnt live up to the hype :lol. Still good though just overshadowed by Wall and Beal

[spursistan]

meh..have you seen the warm embrace between KL/Lebron post-game? :lol

He never does it with any Warrior..

[ElNono]

:lol and he gets the W and the interview at the end... like a boss...

[spursistan]

:lol

823015352338673664

[LoneStarState'sPride]

:lol

823015352338673664

Oh lookie there :lol

[100%duncan]

:lol

823015352338673664

:lmao

[Perry Mason]

What does Otto Porter think of Kawhi?

http://www.si.com/nba/video/2017/01/18/otto-porter-likes-kawhi-leonards-game?xid=Outbrain_SportsIllustrated_ArticleRR&sct=obinsite

[TheDoctor]

What does Otto Porter think of Kawhi?

http://www.si.com/nba/video/2017/01/18/otto-porter-likes-kawhi-leonards-game?xid=Outbrain_SportsIllustrated_ArticleRR&sct=obinsite

That's a nice praise from Otto, Just by trying to shape his game after Kawhi's is huge.